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@TipTop_1712 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video
@PreacherT52 жыл бұрын
Want to say this is great information, will be adding this to my sustainment kit and vehicle, so many uses. Any specific brand you trust with the nylon? Also did not get notified for this video at all sadly, wondering if your blacklisted on here as well
@nathanrawlins94262 жыл бұрын
What is the recommended length for that nylon?
@nathanrawlins94262 жыл бұрын
I see you said standard is 20ft and you carry 30ft. Would you recommend over 30ft or just if you have extra make a couple 30ft ones?
@blakeorona86932 жыл бұрын
Is your nylon a sling? (A complete circle with bar tack connections) or did you just square knot the ends together a few times? AND Where can I get it?
@shanekilcoyne54852 жыл бұрын
As a firefighter I can't stress enough how useful this tubular nylon is to have on your kit. We utilize it all the time for victim removal, awesome to see it being used in the tactical world as well!
@AmericanMinuteman952 жыл бұрын
Just used mine 3 nights ago...
@colby13802 жыл бұрын
I was just about to say I just learned about it in academy!!
@MG_Monkey2 жыл бұрын
@@AmericanMinuteman95 Another FF here, amen! In my experience it is deemed sacrilegious to not have nylon webbing in your turnouts.
@somethinganything48642 жыл бұрын
Is there any reason why you use it instead of rope?
@MG_Monkey2 жыл бұрын
@@somethinganything4864 Great question! It's wider. We tried rope but the webbing works the best. (I should say rope will also work, but webbing is smaller in a roll).
@cmendoza10942 жыл бұрын
Free, educational , life saving tips. What KZbin should be , thank you so much for sharing.
@SpiritusSystems2 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@jonathanthompson57102 жыл бұрын
So who else is here because of dad's video?
@Tanner.T2 жыл бұрын
Came looking for other Garand thumb peoples too.
@snakebite2102 жыл бұрын
Me
@PineconeActual2 жыл бұрын
Same here
@benyvonnemckenzie65762 жыл бұрын
Yup lol
@prometheusadept2 жыл бұрын
Yep!
@gregtennyson2 жыл бұрын
I’m a rock climber with some mountain SAR experience. I was taught a similar protocol but using slings instead of webbing. Slings are essentially just webbing that have been pre-sewn into loops. It makes it easier to equalize the load and allows you to secure the casualty without having to tie any knots.
@MrJamesDolph2 жыл бұрын
i concur
@dustinlerch92722 жыл бұрын
Yep, this is just a new paint job on an old car.
@x.grover.x97862 жыл бұрын
couldn't you reference this please? I'd like to know how many of what sizes, and the procedure. I have a good idea of how to make simple chest and waist harness..but not a good way to distribute inorder to drag and move.
@gregtennyson2 жыл бұрын
@@x.grover.x9786 If you're looking for a good reference on procedures I'd recommend researching crevasse rescue. As a civilian its much different than combat search & rescue because we're not trying to evacuate a casualty under fire. The technique varies based on the situation, evacuating someone who's conscious and participating in their own rescue is much different than trying to get someone onto a board. Learning crevasse rescue techniques will also teach you how to move yourself, should you ever have to.
@Christian_Prepper2 жыл бұрын
*The primary difference being most patient extractions in a military setting will be to drag or lift off the ground, whereas rock climbers will be more likely in need of just belaying the patient.*
@MrContemplation2 жыл бұрын
I would like to thank Lt Dan for "standing" in to help you demonstrate.
@AR-vd3pb2 жыл бұрын
Funny you said that because this whole video made me think this tubular nylon bs is dumb af. If you need to get someone out then do like Forrest and pick them up and take them out. Obviously take out any threats first or you might catch a round in your buttcheek. lol Point is if your a man you should be able to pick someone up and carry them to safety. If they're 300 lbs then don't bother picking them up or dragging them out. Priority should be taking out the threat or threats that shot him in the first place.
@jasoncown2 жыл бұрын
Ok genius, how about after you've taken out your threats. You're on a hillside with a person in full kit. They have a spinal injury. They're hemorrhaging. "Just drag them out bro" moron
@EricDaMAJ2 жыл бұрын
@@AR-vd3pb In modern combat a fully loaded Soldier or Marine may actually weigh near 300 lbs with all his gear. You can strip some of it off but you'll want to keep the body armor on when bullets and shit are flying everywhere. Some items like weapons, explosives, and NVGs are not something your command wants you to leave behind. (Only the POTUS gets to do that.) Even if you prioritize killing the enemy over evacuating your buddy, your buddy still needs an evacuation when the enemy's dead. And you have LESS of an excuse to leave his shit behind. It's bad enough if he's on the ground. What happens if he's up a 3 story building and the stairs are mostly choked with rubble? Tubular webbing is a solution.
@AR-vd3pb2 жыл бұрын
@@EricDaMAJ Yeah I see how it could be helpful in a military combat situation but I'm talking about carrying it and using it as a civilian. For military use I would prefer a system easier to use than just tubular nylon. If you need to drag someone to safety then drag them by their plate carrier. If you need to pick them up then pick them up. If you need to carry them then use something designed for that like an injured personnel carrier (IPC). Which is basically the same thing as this tubular nylon product but easier to use.
@EricDaMAJ2 жыл бұрын
@@AR-vd3pb I think you should try dragging or picking someone up in a plate carrier before you say "just do it."
@JayC-hb4oq2 жыл бұрын
This is an amazing video. I remember practicing these WITHOUT the nylon strap. It was very challenging carrying battle-buddies 1.5 times my weight. I can see these methods making the effort more efficient. Great demonstration. Thank you! You are helping me keep my battles safer and sound.
@SpiritusSystems2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@jackjmaheriii2 жыл бұрын
Pro Tip: Have your Riggers sew 12” half twist loop in one end. It’ll make a smooth girth hitch in a captive eye biner, it’s handy if you have to repel or hoist, you never have to cut it or mess around with a knot when you’re trying to go fast, etc.
@unfi67982 жыл бұрын
Good one Jack, Used it a few times.
@MrUSApatriot012 жыл бұрын
Definitely going to do this
@jonestactical32682 жыл бұрын
Just put a twist in it when you tie it and it will do the same thing.
@jackjmaheriii2 жыл бұрын
If you don’t have Riggers, and you do have time, tie all the knots you want… But if time is at a premium, you’re not worried about a smooth tight roll, and you don’t have to worry about cold stiff fingers, tie all the knots you want. But make sure it has a long tail or a half hitch because when it gets wet, that knot will walk under stress.
@robertd57892 жыл бұрын
@@jackjmaheriii you talking about sewing the ends togther and a section at the half-way? If so im going to have to check that out. Just found a video for a X box stitch thats worth 1600lbs before it broke in the testing machine. Im trying to get everything i can to make my stuff as effective as possible.
@RunningWithSauce8 ай бұрын
1st drag we call a 7 (firefighter). 2nd we call a hasty harness. I keep a 20 foot tubular webbing with a water knot in my gear. But by far without question my favorite webbing is the Anderson Rescue MLRS. Nothing better for drags or improvised harnesses and for self rescue. Also for a litter drag in the field, I highly recommend a mega mover folded in your gear. I’ve moved hundreds of people of all sizes with one. CMC Certified Technical Rescue Technician II.
@stevevanness82742 жыл бұрын
Another informative video. Thanks for making these longer videos covering the who, what, where, when & why behind equipment you choose to carry. It definitely helps guys like me who weren't in the military but love to learn new methods of doing things. Keep up the great work fellas.
@CBB-dg9jy2 жыл бұрын
I got a couple hundred yard roll for my soldiers (USAR). Being a full time firefighter tube webbing is one of my favorite pieces of equipment.
@CBB-dg9jy2 жыл бұрын
@@ReanuKeevesAus Army Reserve
@annalorree Жыл бұрын
In the fire service, we used tubular webbing to drag victims, create a hasty seat to rappel out a window if needed, to hoist tools, to attach to ankles when going into confined spaces like culverts, and to secure to charged hose lines to help move, anchor, or manipulate them. Tubular webbing is a must have!
@cripplers8 Жыл бұрын
Garand Thumb on his urban ops video said this was a great video for Tubular Nylon application & he was right on the money. Great info on the vid….
@SpiritusSystems Жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@bradleysmith46302 жыл бұрын
I would give up a lot just to spend a day with you. All of the knowledge you have I want.
@jdan1812 жыл бұрын
Great video. One thing missing that I would add, how to tie the water knot. Keep up the good work!
@keithklassen53202 жыл бұрын
Beer knot's better, but both have their uses.
@TraumaPCT2 жыл бұрын
Have used this in technical search and rescue, specifically with rock climbing casualty extraction. I'd recommend people venturing out into the unknown add this to their kit! Even if you can't use it alone, having it set up expedites the rescue process!!!
@Snoopyflyingace802 жыл бұрын
2:00 can attest to that. Did some training on occasion where I dragged someone using the PC handle. Made the situation much more difficult than if I had a little extra distance between me and the simulated casualty.
@co1urzz2 жыл бұрын
tubular nylon is probably as comfortable as it gets, flat webbing ends up loading up on the edges creating cuts/abrasions/hot points, where as tubular, the load 'rolls' limiting the peak forces
@bthemedia2 жыл бұрын
thank you for the clarification
@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz2 жыл бұрын
Slings emphasize this reality a lot. Even a 1" tubular is more comfortable than a 1.5" flat sling, especially once the rifle gets heavy. Tubular is just great.
@Schultz3442 жыл бұрын
When he demonstrated the 6 man carry configuration you could also use if available two large ish branches through the hand loops to create more of a ridged platform.
@grumgle25212 жыл бұрын
My last comment was shitting on you and KZbin deleted it I'm pissed yee yee ass radio marine
@lazarusactual21462 жыл бұрын
Had to watch this several times to get it right and practice it.
@GrimrDirge2 жыл бұрын
Tubular nylon is tough, but pronouncing "tubular nylon" on camera over and over is tougher. Great work.
@Kwgpodcast2 жыл бұрын
I just received the micro fight chassis MK4 from you guys and I absolutely love it. Keep doing what your doing guys!
@SpiritusSystems2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you
@AlphaMachina2 жыл бұрын
I had one of those hoses with this stuff around it (like $30 at Walmart years ago), and the interior hose busted, so I cut the ends, and pulled this stuff off the outside of it and washed it all out, and now I have 100ft of this tubular nylon, and it is tough stuff. I've been using it for all kinds of purposes. It's extremely abrasion resistant and just very useful all around. After 3 years of using that hose, dragging it across the yard, etc. the stuff still looks brand new with no noticeable abrasions or cuts or wear anywhere on it. It's pretty amazing.
@flgman5962 жыл бұрын
favorite! Just reworking my setup, bout 2 weeks now, perfect timing for the refreshing, thanks guys!
@billgrant61752 жыл бұрын
That was slick. Never seen before. Cost vs benefit is huge. Low cost, low weight, minimal training and greatly increases your buddy's chances.
@briankendall19782 жыл бұрын
It would probably be a good idea to practice these several times so you know exactly what you want to do before you get in a place where you need it. I remember I used to practice rappelling/climbing knots with my son when he was around 10 or 12 yrs old so i could hold him up and see how well the knots would hold. He loved being suspended 2 or 3 foot off the ground from a tree limb in a climbing harness. lol.
@HayasaTribe2 жыл бұрын
Been carrying the exact setup, 30ft with a locking carabiner. Tubular nylon is awesome and dirt cheap.
@HayasaTribe2 жыл бұрын
@Killa civilian/reservist in a war zone
@Solly-ow4od2 жыл бұрын
Honestly been waiting for this video ever since Fred’s first video giving a run through of his kit. Thanks guys.
@KiloWhiskeyOne2 жыл бұрын
This is a great system. We used a similar type system extracting injured people in alpine situations that were in a dangerous location (in our situation avalanche, cliffs, falling rocks, etc.) and where spine trauma was not a concern or had been addressed by a KED or other like equipment.
@totenfurwotan44782 жыл бұрын
Fred is a wealth of knowledge love his videos like this
@99cobra28812 жыл бұрын
Good timing Im putting a DARC strap on my PC right now. I wondered what I should do with all the leftover tubular nylon.
@DireArmory2 жыл бұрын
This is the video I've been waiting on. As a firefighter I could never understand why tactical guys never carry it. I carry on my Haley Flatpack and I get comments on my channel ALL THE TIME of people saying that's stupid or asking why I carry it. I am about to do a video on it myself
@deepblack12 жыл бұрын
I was taught to carry it as a firefighter. Where are you using/wearing the Flatpack?
@DireArmory2 жыл бұрын
@@deepblack1 so the flatpack is my emergency bag. Heavily trauma related with some rescue. It's built to go with my plate carrier in an active shooter situation or worn alone in case of mass casualty (collapse, MVC, Bomb, etc...)
@ahmada.thabata86152 ай бұрын
Wow, I love the video with Fred. Are there more videos with him? If not, there should be, he is a great instructor!
@matthewvetrick2762 жыл бұрын
Ha, I went through a training school when I was active duty with Fred. I always wondered what happened to him, crazy I found him here.
@benoitl30442 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this educating video. I searched some commercial, rigged tubular nylon but the length of many seems not be enough. DIY one would be a better option. Talking about how you make those knots to close your tubular nylon could be really helpful.
@unfi67982 жыл бұрын
The best performed by the best. Revision is always helpful. Cheers mate.
@asfannin2 жыл бұрын
Former infantry medic; it reminds me of the NAR RAT strap, but a bit more versatile, which is nice.
@anraegodley-cooper63212 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks, Blessings to you and your family my brother in Arms.
@ThePewski2 жыл бұрын
That was...deep. I can tell this dude trained and performed this, maybe more than once. Good chit bro. From the bottom of my heart, thank you.
@dipsylogic17152 жыл бұрын
Indeed. He was a tier 1 operator in the 24th stg
@adamcorbett528910 ай бұрын
Fred is the man
@patriotfour33742 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your knowledge
@MrKernkraft40002 жыл бұрын
Great video. Now I fully understand why people like yourselves and Pat Mac have tubular nylon on your kits at all times.
@LionheartSJZ2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this amazing demonstration! I appreciate you sharing that knowledge a ton!
@AlfredNoyes2 жыл бұрын
gdamn those carabiners sounding crisp, fantastic video on alternate carries
@tonymendestv Жыл бұрын
Mr manequin wich ball is ok not having anymore, left or right 😛
@BadazzShovelhead2 жыл бұрын
Nicely done my man. I love that you don't do the hooyah motivation BS. Calm great pace, informative- I can tell you've done some instructing before :)
@tambaurorastation7562 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! And thank you Mr. Thumb for recommending it!
@af22raptor235032 жыл бұрын
Outstanding Presentation on the Unconventional use of Tubular Webbing.
@brandonneuman13172 жыл бұрын
Thanks for some more uses for the 30ft of tubular webbing I carry in my sar kit. I have used it for z drag anchor and a makeshift harness.
@xSP3CTREx2 жыл бұрын
Outstanding, love what you patriots do!
@hillbillynick20002 жыл бұрын
Thanks for knowledge. Really appreciate the What, Where, Why videos.
@jackpippenstock11042 жыл бұрын
Excellent instructional video, thank you. I'll learn to use it in case of natural disaster emergency. 👍
@h2ksniper2 жыл бұрын
*the firefigher in me* "Ah yes, finally something i can relate to.."
@andeusmc20302 жыл бұрын
Ah, welcome to the fire service. Good to see you guys here!
@ThePatriotParadox2 жыл бұрын
I have a summit harness with my climbing setup lineman's belt and 2 25 foot lengths of climbing rope to set up safety line's or to repel if needed that I like to carry with my mountain gear but all can be used for different things if needed, good to have with all load out bag's if can fit.. but if not this stuff, some clips and knowing your knots will come in handy!
@robertdole53912 жыл бұрын
As more of the global population moves to live in urban centers the more likely we would need to hoist / lower casualties in vertical terrain (buildings, roofs, retaining wall, bridges, stairwells, subway tunnels etc.)
@kalenbarnes61612 жыл бұрын
Great info! Please keep these coming.
@wstephens2 жыл бұрын
GT sent me here
@jakechapman71482 жыл бұрын
While rocking the Tribe Sk8z hoodie, hell yeah
@bbiiggjjoo2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that informativ video. How do you support the head? Isn‘t it hanging/banging around and falling back?
@nukkohuits172 жыл бұрын
We had an SOP of wearing a one inch climbing strap as a harness under our plate carrier. You can just use it as a strap handle and in an emergency clip someone to a hoist.
@youdontneedtoknowbro2 жыл бұрын
I carry tubular nylon in the DARC knot drag handle on my carrier. Total cost was like 12 bones. Worth every penny
@rapache12 жыл бұрын
Thank you for teaching and posting
@SpiritusSystems2 жыл бұрын
Any time
@johngross83002 жыл бұрын
Great talk and demos. Thank you. (Edit: Subscribed.)
@SpiritusSystems2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@DM-qx8pl8 ай бұрын
How long and wide should the nylon be ? Also, can i carry someone on my back with that ?
@7curiogeo2 жыл бұрын
In LMAO in the climbing community it's termed tube webbing, 1"". And it is a main stay of rigged up harnesses for climbing, repelling, between cams, or pitons and caribiners setting fall protection, or repelling ropes, or a multitude of other uses. I would suggest any one doing tactical movements think 3D as in up and down and get a mountain or rock climbing hand book. Webbing rope 'biners figure 8's and knots could give you a winning edge, or save your life. Just FYI.
@teotwaki2 жыл бұрын
Hi, it's rappelling not repelling 👌
@brentsproc2 жыл бұрын
Nobody cares what they call it.
@joenunya84492 жыл бұрын
@@brentsproc 👍I give a wide berth for tiny buttons and autocorrect.
@osumbuckeyenut2 жыл бұрын
Garand thumb sent me...
@scottgrandy5312 жыл бұрын
Me, too.
@Pembroke.2 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic!! Hey, another option is to send a robot or a drone it works for Amazon/ Well, not the body drag, but you will get your package the next day 🤣
@JaySky1812 жыл бұрын
Really fucking wish I had seen this video when I was a squad leader. Thanks for putting this info out there man 🤙🏻
@thentantt2 жыл бұрын
We used these in my technical rescue team, mostly use them for victim extraction or helping with anchors.
@riffedwood55972 жыл бұрын
Having used rope to hoist and move large heavy objects, this stuff is way more durable. Gonna pick some up ASAP
@riffedwood55972 жыл бұрын
And thanks for the info!
@onlyscavs2932 жыл бұрын
THIS SHIBARI COURSE INTENSE
@willmv41393 ай бұрын
Awesome content!! Thank you. Did I miss how long the tubular nylon loop is? That will be the success factor ...right?!
@willmv41393 ай бұрын
22 feet to 30 feet (@the end of the video); also usable for rigging and setting anchors.
@josephdanmathis18762 жыл бұрын
Thanks big guy. Nice info.
@robertjackson14072 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊
@seanuh602 жыл бұрын
Sorry if I keep missing it, I've watched the presentation twice now. But what is the desired length of the strap? Is tying a knot in it sufficient for most applications or is investing in a presewn loop worth it if you don't have access to a sewing machine that can go through two layers of tubing?
@SpiritusSystems2 жыл бұрын
The average is about 20-50ft. Its in the video
@vesuviateresearches15042 жыл бұрын
Water knot is to be used.
@Vtarngpb8 ай бұрын
7:52 A tether? But who doesn’t love getting the spins? 😅
@Bigdaddyslasher2 жыл бұрын
Pretty slick part of your kit
@wes23932 жыл бұрын
Back when Magpul was making their ms2 slings from tubular nylon i went and bought a bunch out of curiosity. Its uses are unparalleled. Only issues is that it can fray overtime depending on its uses.
@tjsylla2 жыл бұрын
As a FF, webbing is life..very versatile.. from victim removal to moving charged 5"
@zakadams762 Жыл бұрын
thanks for the information, I really hope I don't have to consider doing this to one of my friends in a few years, but if I do I have some background
@user-xr2nu9jf4l2 жыл бұрын
Is the Spiritus drag handle he described still being sold?
@renegadearms2 жыл бұрын
Really good never seen that before.
@donaldfarrand16222 жыл бұрын
Dam what a awesome video!!! You made it look so simple. Thank you for the great info!!!!
@SpiritusSystems2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!!
@charlieghague2 жыл бұрын
What's the best method for making it into a loop? Certain knot to use? Or sew it?
@forrestmoulton30532 жыл бұрын
Water knot is only thing approved by rope and knots nerds for it.
@vesuviateresearches15042 жыл бұрын
As forest said: water knot. If you want to be able to use as single strand, a loop in each end (water knots) can be linked with a locking carabiner.
@keithklassen53202 жыл бұрын
@@forrestmoulton3053 Arguable. Beer knot is harder to tie and inspect, but stronger and less prone to creep. If you're good with your equipment, use a beer knot.
@Christian_Prepper2 жыл бұрын
*Now practice all these configurations on a partner as the continually SCREAM & GRIPE!*
@texian912 жыл бұрын
If you have to pull or move something that could go boom or is on fire it’s way better to do it at the end of a rope. Good stuff
@yoji582 жыл бұрын
Great info.
@SpiritusSystems2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@1985daddyd2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@kalanipitmon7817 Жыл бұрын
Your my boy Spiritus ❤
@DLDafterDark2 жыл бұрын
Instantly subscribed
@SpiritusSystems2 жыл бұрын
Says you're not :(
@DLDafterDark2 жыл бұрын
@@SpiritusSystems really?!? Wtf KZbin. I just checked and it says I'm subbed. Interesting how this platform works huh?? Bastards.
@lexxb63862 жыл бұрын
What's a good length to carry with you? For general stuff like shown
@Apparition_Unknown2 жыл бұрын
Totally tubular 🤙
@dylanzipd30972 жыл бұрын
This dudes awesome.
@NBradley081110 ай бұрын
I still think that the flak pull strap is valuable in this scenario
@charlesbatkin97832 жыл бұрын
I've only ever buddy dragged people in training, but having hitched a fair bit of timber I'm curious about how well these setups will work in moving a body. I feel like they don't do enough to lift the head off the ground, reduce drag surface, stop the head catching things on the ground, prevent neck injury, prevent spinning in a hoist situation, etc. How well do they work?
@Somecommentsfromme2 жыл бұрын
Like he said, not the most ideal, this is more or less if this is your only option it will work well enough. Every situation is different and will require a little more maneuvering than something else, but when you are packing light because you have more kit on you and that weight needs to go to other things than this is a better option than nothing.
@FT4Freedom2 жыл бұрын
There are bullets flying. Grab the body and go.
@josh44292 жыл бұрын
If you're in a full kit, it's assumed that the patient needs to be moved due to trauma while in a hostile environment. You're not going to take the time to jerry rig tubular nylon to move him/her off the x, you're going to apply a hasty tourniquet on whichever extremity has blood and drag their ass to cover by whatever means necessary. If your patient is conscious, they won't be choked out if you drag them by their plate carrier. They're smart enough to tuck their chin. If they are unconscious, a 20m drag to cover is the least of their worries. Once, you have cover you're now in the tactical field care phase and by god any thoughts of tubular nylon at this point should be null and void. Make a 20 dollar investment and buy a pole-less litter, or a fairly priced foxtrot litter. If you're even considering handling a casualty for the love of god take a TCCC course or at the very least a brain dead CLS course. If you're using tubular nylon to move civilian patients in a peacetime scenario, and you don't have some sort of EMS Cert or any form of medical training I sure as hell hope your state has good samaritan protection laws. Sure it's good to know how to improvise, but if a person plans on using tubular nylon as their primary tool to move a patient, they're being negligent at best.
@fatcat9109 Жыл бұрын
hasty recovery of a corpse
@TheRealWadeW2 жыл бұрын
Is this tubular nylon on the website? I don't see it or the link