Orchestral Programming: Day Two

Due to popular demand, Christian is back to discuss the next steps in orchestral programming, focusing more deeply on the individual sections within an orchestra.
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[@Shrooblord]

Completely unrelated, but I _love_ how _British_ it is to have an intro / outro far out on some natural landscape just talking to the camera. It's such a classic hallmark of British productions, and I am enamoured with that style. Charming. Great video, as was the last! Keep it up!

[@nooneinparticular9868]

I just sent this to a friend and said the same. Reminds me of top gear. The little films. I really enjoyed it!

[@brunomozart6754]

They know how to simply sophisticate stuff with nature and natural concepts that we don't even know how to describe exactly. Greetings from Brazil to all composers

[@naes9999]

I'm sure we'd all like to see a day 3!

[@dannyC3827]

Christian really does make this a heck of a lot less intimidating. Great work Christian I can't wait to see what else you have in store!

[@marvinschluckauf6783]

Guys it's already out

[@efnerva664]

My wallet can't take a day 3

[@garyoconnor4607]

@@efnerva664 I hear ya

[@MarsenK1]

Dear Christian, you know what I like the most in your videos? It´s personality, switching to nature, have a walk, reflect life & make the most out of it. This is to enjoy not only music making, but reflect what your doing to get inspired. Like the lately announced new Albion trip to Norway. Big thumbs up!

[@HassanMosleh]

it's been 3 years and these videos still impress me, great job Christian

[@blue-balance]

This video (and Day One) are the best explanations of orchestration I've ever seen. I'm new to orchestration and immediately fell in love with Spitfire's approach. I decided to become a new Spitfire customer and purchase Abbey Road One and BBC Symphony Orchestra. I literally followed every step of your videos using ARO and BBSCO and everything worked perfectly and sounds amazing! Thank you, Christian, for inspiring a whole new generation of composers!

[@timcorns9351]

Well done Christian - top notch!

[@jjaammee11]

Just discovered your videos tonight. Brilliant Christian.

[@sanjaycolaco]

I liked the advice from 47:13 to 48:28. Its really helpful. Thank you for sharing this video.

[@ricarnp]

GOD BLESS YOU CHRISTIAN THANKS FROM COSTA RICA

[@ricarnp]

THANKS CHRISTIAN GOD BLESS YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@paulkorchok6567]

Im late to the party but so so glad you did a day 2, and I hope to find you did a day 3 and beyond. I'm 8 minutes in and have learned a lot already! Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience so feely.

[@jeremiaserbe5972]

This was ABSOLUTELY inspiring! It's kind of heartwarming listen to you and your music. Thank you, Christian. Cheers to the team.

[@EASTSIDEDELI]

I absolutely love this type of stuff. If there was a tv show that only had stuff like this on it I would pretty much only watch that.

[@ivo4357]

I like when he said (using my words) "this is how far I can take you, if you need more I leave it to the real experts". However good someone is, a bit of self-reflection is the best quality a person can have. A breath of fresh air, there are too many self-proclaimed geniuses, who think they are the second coming of Mozart as soon as they click some button and a beat starts coming out of a light-flashing tool they call an instrument. Technology is there to help people create, not do the creating for you. In my opinion you only create music when you play and/or invent music, start putting layer upon layer until you get a finished product, and this is best created in orchestral music, in my mind.

[@LernGuru]

Inspirational! Yes. Part 3!

[@UmutErhan]

Great content. I normally watch videos at x2 speed and skip the parts I know, but your videos are so honest and sincere, I spent hours watching your videos at normal speed without getting bored. However, I feel kind of daunted because having even one of those libraries is a dream for people like us living in 3rd world countries. Tried other free stuff but that never sounds like these top ones.

[@mymindreact]

fantastic! thank you for this, love your honesty

[@YamanPalak]

Christian, you are a fantastic tutor, and composer! Thank you!

[@JesuisParte]

Keep going guys. Just keep going.

[@joetowers4804]

How did you comment a week ago?

[@grasped2]

@@joetowers4804 maybe he's from the future :O

[@chadyou812]

I absolutely love these Christian and it just clicked. You know who you remind me of in regards to your speaking and pace? James Burke, from the series Connections. Absolute dead ringer.

[@MusicalWizardryMarcoIannello]

Day 3 yes! These 2 videos have been fantastic, and I would love to see the "fun" one, cheers

[@911truthfarmer]

Incredibly valuable sit-in Christian. Thank you oh so much for sharing your (sped up) processes. I agree it's not rocket science, yet as a mostly rock and roll songwriter I want to express other aspects of myself and these two vids are what I was looking for when I searched on YT. Thanks brother. Cheers!

[@fridafeline]

Great masterclass!

[@MrSquare]

6:05 leaving the timecode in the video?! I demand an explanation Christian. seriously though, it's amazing that you have time to make these in depth videos and we all immensely appreciate it, as someone who hasn't purchased any Albion stuff yet and currently only has a cheaper orchestral library with individual part patches and no ensemble patches (hint: it beings with H), advice on splitting a larger composition up into the parts is immensely helpful; even moreso when we can watch you do it rather than just be told how while facing a camera.

[@adamhousemusiclessons]

These videos are great. Thanks Christian. Another book I would highly recommend is - Midi Orchestration by Paul Gilreath along side Samuel Adler- The Study of Orchestration.

[@jimmyangels007]

Amazing !!!! Thank you for sharing your workflow with us! Bless you!

[@christiaantinga]

Just the right education for me at just the right time. I couldn't me more thankful!

[@JonPontrello]

So good. Thank you for this

[@kaidowind2370]

These videos and your channel have been incredibly inspiring. Looking forward to a day 3! :)

[@gabrielepirovano465]

What a true professionist he is! Waiting for more like this

[@brunoprates1694]

New to the channel... You are simply amazing... your ease at this and mindset are mindblowing! Thank you for your teachings

[@nooneinparticular9868]

Sir you have given me the confidence to try and do this! Loved these videos

[@goreybeydagi]

I'd like to see a day three, also a scoring day two. I guess, it's hard to finding time to record this things as a busy composer. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. :)

[@jockneyranger]

“Piccolos ..the little bastards” 😂👍🏼

[@mdoerkse]

Sure helps to have a cohesive, versatile, great sounding instrument library! Good advertisement for Spitfire.

[@maryshaw4399]

Loved watching the evolution of this track. Thank you Christian!

[@mac2309zzz]

I have no practical interest in composition, but this is fascinating and superbly well presented... loved the switch from the hilltop to the studio, very flash!

[@MartinLeggewie]

Thank you very much for this two-part intro into how one could arrange orchestral music - quite inspiring. It took me a while (while watching part one) to realize that this YT channel is actually the vendor's channel of the used music plug-ins. So technically this is advertising. But hey, these two parts are made in such a fair way that I was not reminded by this during the whole time. I also liked that at the end you explicitly mention that you made lots of mistakes which were just cut out of the video so that we watchers don't get intimidated too much. And you brought your dog with you :-D Again: thank you! Definitely worth watching!

[@veenu8474]

A suggestion/wish: for a possible final three episodes of this series please get a professional orchestrator like Ben Foskett and look him over the shoulder how he would orchestrate this for a real performance. Then make an episode where the whole piece gets recorded at AIR, and in the final episode let Jake Jackson mix the whole thing! :D

[@TheCrowHillCo]

luco r sounds cheap

[@WAMProducties]

that would be more like day three....hundred

[@captainvoluntaryistthestat3207]

Hang on, why would you record live what you composed on a computer?

[@SwansongMedia]

@@captainvoluntaryistthestat3207 Because, great though sample libraries are, they're nothing like a real orchestra playing your composition.

[@jessestuart5756]

...So basically it becomes a $200,000 project at that point. You wan't to cough up that $200k for a professional orchestrator, scoring stage, orchestra, and mixing engineer? Ya just do another three videos; you have your retirement to spend right?

[@tronkiechannel]

I'm a simple guy. At 10:25 when I heard, "When I play in the middle range we'll get fingered", I burst out loud laughing. Thanks for that!

[@majokalapayo8123]

i read this comment before i reached that part. I watched the video with that in mind but i still wasn't prepared when he said it with so much gusto, i just got cracked up.

[@tronkiechannel]

@@majokalapayo8123 It's absolutely the gusto with which he said it. That there, is modern art.

[@ratdogsoundhouse8999]

The term 'fair to middling' will never be the same now :)

[@marksadventures3889]

When I play in the middle range we'll get fingered" Gigetty....as I know someone would say.

[@shitpains]

just before he says it, something jumps out of his mouth

[@AgressiveFrench]

Amazing, hope we will see andy one day !

[@soundsfromheaven733]

thank you for teaching me how to write the orchestra parts.

[@Alessio8174]

A day 3 would be awesome !

[@BillyPalmerMusic]

Making me think of the music from Owl Boy!

[@lambadalasse]

AWESOME !!!! Thanks for sharing

[@kongoon]

Amazing..

[@deanwhitlock3312]

The intro and the outdoor cuts have a definite James Burke feel to it....

[@jaroslawborzuchowski8113]

This just left me speechless...5 years trying and not even close....

[@papa2074]

hi thnx so much i really enjoyed your work and now i can be satisfied with what I have done as a practical arranger but I really love to hear how a well educated arranger will analyse your job .....from other hand some of your technical experiences are about how to imitate a real instrument player that is potentially an economic advantage but how will be the world like without true players .

[@davidmartel5247]

Very generous Thank you very much

[@davidbrundrett8571]

Once again, tremendously instructive … the change from day one provided an excellent demonstration of how much orchestration impacts the final result. Also, the inclusion of tempo modulation was fantastic. As a final bit of information (maybe include in Day 3?), it would be useful to understand the mechanics of your end-state setup for this piece (sorry, I know this strays a bit from the intent of the video). Specifically, I am curious about the total number of midi tracks you end up with, and how those are distributed across Kontakt instances. Thanks very much for making these videos!

[@saxofonista]

You said you made a lot of mistakes and tried again, well what can I say is: You make very good mistakes. (They guide you)

[@baldwyntin608]

Thank you!

[@RobertBusschots]

Selling Albino ONE as the all in one package you'll only need and than here in Orchestral Programming Day Two promoting the Chamber strings. It's all sales tricks over there at Spitfire.

[@samuelgl]

you think chamber strings is all in one?

[@junkyard_boxer8995]

Awesome

[@jodagold5481]

A few boos from the gallery re thumbs down ?? Whatever knob-eds Thank you very inspiring and helpful. As ever thanks Christian

[@ekpahadiladka]

HELP ! - What is the controller he is using for modulation? Such an expressive tool! And are any cheap alternatives are available?

[@rafalsommerfeld9585]

Hi Christian, Would you be able please to explane how to assign dynamic and expression to faders that they will stay assign even when you open new instrument in spitfire? Many thanks

[@RichardBoyer]

Very useful thank you

[@BrennansMusic]

which spitfire instrument collection do you use? There are so many to choose from.

[@riccardofattoretto5323]

Is somewhere any final editing of this masterpiece?

[@jcjensenllc]

Much of what you are doing requires a description or explanation of your software tools which you never talk about. Ex: how/where do you record midi controller; up the velocity; join up; even those out; how/where do you change tempo

[@mikadebruijn9890]

I want a day 3, 4, 5, 6

[@wlerrigo]

what is the expression and dynamic controller you are using?

[@josephfremedcomposer]

Christian, what keyboard are you using?

[@MarkEisenman]

Hi Christian, I need to get an interface like your are using for expression. What IS that unit that you are using in your left hand. Do you have a recommendation for a newbie?

[@redhotbenny84]

This is great, thanks so much! Does anyone know what those midi fader boxers are?

[@noobrules16]

10:22 Christian, relax. We can't be talking about our quirks so bluntly. Sheesh

[@kaspianocz6330]

Can You read sheet music?

[@ivorycybernetics]

if i get it right....you would use on instance of kontakt per track..? therefore having as many instances of kontakt as there are instruments..?

[@balabuyew]

Can you, please, list all instruments used.

[@dbindle]

Sorry - I see thats two buttons a knob and two faders. Was it difficults setting these Palette controls up?

[@SurfinG8or]

What is the hardware your using for the expression sliders?

[@aleksandrkarlshoffer-ruden6291]

Super!!!!🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶

[@justinjones6810]

What kind of controller is he using to control the dynamics of the strings in his left hand

[@Wolfbacker95]

palette midi controller

[@antoniapolizou7409]

Hello! What are the basic stuff that i need in order to make a orchestral composition? I made a small research and i' ve been told that i need an Audio interface and a software like this (a DAW) and monitors. Is it true, or i need more stuff and devices? I have already a digital piano , but i just want to start to make compositions with better sound quality, like a normal orchestra. I would be grateful if you'd answer me! Thank you in advace! Great video by the way , and very helpful! I'm looking forward to see the next one!!!

[@jeffbird5082]

I would say yes you need an audio interface, daw like Logic Pro, a midi cable to connect your digital piano to a PC, and some good quality studio headphones is what you need. Take care.

[@phillipj.faddoul-composer1032]

"If I play it in the middle range, we'll get fingered" I think I need to start playing more in the middle range! 😜

[@subhashchanderdhaka4056]

What is name of volume and modulation controller..device?

[@terryterry1516]

hi I am wondering how do you use the midi fader to control the cc cause I got a icon controls recently but I just can't use it as the mod wheel to record into logic

[@alejorojo3821]

Hi my name is Alejo from Argentuna, please you could share the technical specifications of your computer

[@BS-te3mn]

Nobody: Me half way through: "Dammit Sarah, I love you ! Can't you see that ?!?!"

[@foljs5858]

Hmm, this is Christian tho

[@bedtimeread]

Day 1 - spends $450 in spitfire library Day 2 - spends $4500 in spitfire additional libraries

[@erngkmn]

ASDFASDF

[@blue-balance]

Day 1 - $400 Abbey Road One Day 2 - $999 BBC Symphony Orchestra Worth Every Penny!

[@crystalteapot9353]

theres BBC discovery which is free

[@JPDC624]

@@blue-balance Ditto!

[@arguestreet]

Every instrument has to be played like an actual player.. I had always just worked each part into a piece with the goal of getting the instruments to sound realistic. Not with such sincere emotion/commitment. My goal was always the piece, not the player. But now I realize each player has to be given personality. Emotional input.. Loved this.. Huge Huge thank you, Christian.

[@MenkoDany]

The second pass took this composition from "non-copyrighted music" to "AAA game soundtrack song #17"

[@grahamscholes2159]

Absolutely wonderful to sit on your shoulder whilst you're at work. A privilege! So many KZbin videos are put up by the "aren't I wonderful" crowd. You've been successful in a very tough business "without being trained". I believe this will inspire me and many others to work on our skills. Thank you!

[@Submersed24]

"If we play in the middle range, we'll get fingered" haha

[@jeradatherton]

Very inspiring. Thank you! And I really appreciate the disclaimer at 47:15. It would be tempting to make yourself look better by keeping the illusion of the polish flowing easily/quickly...but your honesty is most helpful. Thanks again.

[@SimonEarly]

personally, I think it needs a tad more cowbell

[@reginaldworthington7558]

This may well have been the most enjoyable 2 hours I’ve spent on KZbin in the last couple years. Thank you for your brilliant breakdown of your process and yes, another hour (or more) would be most welcome Christian. Cheers.

[@leonardofranco5051]

For all the people who are asking for another composer the answer is 🖕. Christian is amazing and you don't deserve him.

[@aripjeetsidhu3819]

He is the reason and the day 1 part that I got interested in trying to make orchestra other than EDM genres

[@MePeterNicholls]

Highly recommend Samuel Adler- The Study of Orchestration.

[@greggood2013]

I can't believe these videos are free. Grateful.

[@scb1620]

Wow, the tempo changes made a huge difference. Thanks.

[@Markplaysmusic]

Every so often I like to pop back to these and other tutorials - a good catch up.

[@joshnine9732]

The statement at the end really filled me with confidence thank you. Leaving very inspired.

[@sumanraju3702]

I was always fascinated by orchestral music. I could never imagine that a single person could score an orchestral masterpiece by using just a keyboard and a software.

[@LeshFilms]

Thanks for doing these. I'd love to see a walk-through of all those controllers on your desk. ;)

[@matthiaslasowski6706]

As a composer, you are ingenious. As a teacher, bringing back my long forgotten english skills you are priceless. Thx from Germany.. EDIT: By watching this episode i remembered Bob Ross. You Do with music what he was doing with paintings.

[@abirdynumnum9612]

Christian: what a lovely presentation (Day 1 was a bit of a surprize!) But I watched both Days with utter fascination. What a gem!

[@LipnitskyOrchestra]

Guys please - there is a device for expression under Christian's left hand, How is the device called?

[@twobob]

its at the start of day1...

[@LipnitskyOrchestra]

@@twobob Thanks, man!