SPL GGPlay vs Stork 2008-06-18 @ Andromeda

[@Breviary]

1시간 30분 경기 시간보고 잘못올렸거나 뒤에 뭐 붙은 줄 알았네 ..대단하다 이런 경기를 볼 수 있다는 것만으로도 영광임

[@아파트-t7o]

이경기 리마스터로 다시보면은 진짜로 대박일듯

[@travlavender1333]

송병구의 다크스웜...ㄷㄷ

[@bludika]

how come neither of these players, especially the zerg didn't set up more expansions around the 3-5 o'clock area for more resources? that area seemed unoccupied by anything based on the mini map

[@bludika]

so you mean separate the mass muta army you have and expect to have 2-3 groups to get killed by the maelstrom and psionic storm, then send in the 4th or 5th etc group to attack the energy depleted protoss army, right?

[@dhkdeoen]

most of them are Lost Prophets' before game starts Lost Prophets - Can't Stop Gonna Date with Hate Yellowcard - Way Away ㅁIntro Movie: Taking Back Sunday - Spin Lost Prophets - Broken Hearts Torn Up Letters and the Story of a Lonely Girl after game Lost Prophets - For All These Times Son For All These Times

[@rs462]

@Tyfyh i don't know? maybe the year it was played in?

[@VieneLea]

Game starts at 6:15

[@umomuio11]

Also, related to your first comment, for area of effect spells like storm and maelstrom, a good unit spread (combined with our micro'ing and sniping efforts) can easily nullify the upper hand that Protoss receives with such tech combinations.

[@DAEGUKJW]

김준영한테 5번 계속 진 송병구의 복수전 ㅋㅋㅋ

[@Calixtus]

The Maelstrom was the decisive factor in this game, without which the Devourers would have destroyed the Air Units of the Protoss.

[@SAFE-BLOCKING]

이건 저그입장에서는 나안해 이럴거같고 플토입장에서는 완전 대박 ㄷㄷ

[@XvBOOMvX]

@TomValedro like the commentator said he didnt upgrade hallucination and he didnt have the minerals to upgrade it.. he used the last minerals on arbiter

[@ManCubuSSC]

Sc2 never had & never will have this epicness all their crap games combined. BW forever.

[@umomuio11]

That's why it's very common to see a Zerg player with a control group of Mutas sniping out the High Templars throughout the game. Not in this specific context though, because of the Corsair tech.

[@bludika]

As a Zerg playing against a Protoss with high Templars and DA's and archons on late game, how da hell are you supposed to counter that? Mass units won't be able do anything because of maelstrom+storm combo, I'd be frustrated if playing Zerg, what can you do?

[@dada78641]

@DawnOfDemise It's too bad we almost never see Guardians. Love them whenever they're used. They're like a slowly advancing wall of death.

[@dmgmaxify]

1:24:57 하트무늬같지 않냐는 말에 다들 영혼 없이 ‘음, 예, 네, …’ 대답하는거 왜케 웃기지 ㅋㅋ

[@허기강-j8g]

입양한 식구랑 만원셔틀ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ프로토스가 생 아비터랑 디파일러로 캐리하네

[@수은-i5w]

1.아비터 몰살 2.상륙에 성공한 다수의 프로브, 그들에게 길막당한 소수의 아칸 이랬으면 무승부 ㅋㅋㅋ

[@nambona890]

I am so glad I watched the whole thing. Holy shit.

[@sinekonata]

Ok I don;t get it, why didn't he put a drone in an overlord when seeing the attack coming? And keep it there to move it to an extractor if he feels he'll lose... in this situation he could even have left the island with some hydras to protect it vs the probes, the main army of stork was trapped...

[@돼지뚱띵이]

1:18:55 이전에 저글링 히드라 전부 12시 섬멀티에 빽빽히 보내서 리콜병력 내릴 공간 안 남겼으면 무승부 됐을듯

[@알수없음-d7h]

성큰도배했으면

[@수은-i5w]

자존심이 거부하는 무승부 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ

[@TheCouxle]

ggplay was done by 45 min in, and certainly could only hope for a draw post 60 min. though I can see why he didn't want to just give up

[@polasz01]

why Stork did not get Hallucination?

[@proffsetjohan]

WOW I JUST WATCHED THE ENTIRE THING

[@burninglegionx]

@jamchew1982 It was the protoss that used the dark swarms. Stork mind controlled quite a few defiles throughout the game.

[@martixy2]

Wow... one of a kind game. No other description. Thumbs up if you came here after Husky's reference in the GSPA (in the darkforce vs IMMvp) :) Trick for watching this game: Mute this video and load the crappy video image version from VioleTAK and play both at the same time synchronized. And voila - you have good quality video and english commentary at the same time.

[@damndamnd]

@xATrueFanx have you ever heard of Savior? lol before Bisu protoss never beat zergs. something tells me you never played StarCraft

[@warvaldance]

Don't you think Storku should have made the archons earlier, instead of carriers or at least mix them with carriers? The archon ball seems to be invincible against Z units.

[@ethansaltmere]

no... hydras slaughter them

[@Ur0pinionDoesntCount]

The thing I love about PvZ/ZvP is anything fuckin goes. Seriously one of the most innovative match-ups and so unique (like so many different options for both races)

[@dew9103]

Those options are really narrowed down in the last 10 years

[@Permanentloops]

Protoss and Zerg show everything they have.

[@guitarFAIL]

ok can someone tell me what the heck happened at 1:19:27, when the archons simply dissapeared ? even if it was an hallucination, i think it would appear some "magic" effects of that, not simply disappearing units!!! right?? answer please :)

[@JackyVSO]

Hi there. I'm here from six years in the future to tell you that those archons were recalled by the arbiter. The producer zooms to their new location immediately after. I hope you're still alive and can still use this information.

[@RyantheCanuckpirate]

slight spoiler? why did the ref pause the game at 1:15?

[@skt1beast]

Ask if they wanted tie

[@jamchew1982]

i don't understand why zerg used dark swarm at the end? vs all those archons?? also, why is stork always in these epic games haha

[@wraith4978]

it was stork's defilers doing the dark swarm, it was a means of defending the archons against projectiles. (hope this 7 year late comment helps)

[@ethansaltmere]

but archons suck under dark swarm....they only do splash

[@MrButtloaf]

it kinda bugs me that the zerg made so many mistakes and looked like he wasn't being very cost-effective.. there has to be a better way of dealing with all those corsairs and reavers- i think that GGPlay should have made like 4 or 5 devourers mainly for the acid spore splash, enabling the few hydras that wouldn't be under the disruption web to deal more damage and kill off more corsairs and hopefully shuttles, and plant ninja defilers with plage to catch the protoss fleet

[@수은-i5w]

P did same mistake

[@snowflakepillow8697]

At least 18 bases on this map and they all get taken in this game.

[@NeonRosahehexd]

Game of all time?

[@dada78641]

I'm really not a good player or anything, but it seems to me GGPlay could have tried making Guardians to undermine some of Stork's vulnerable expansions, especially in the south. It seems to me a lot of his material was being protected by Photon Cannons only.

[@aimthailaxu]

I dont get it .. Stork could have just transitioned to land units. There weren't any lurkers or ultralisks .. hmmm

[@Παθεια_Γνωστικα]

Superior game! Liked it very much!

[@hypercub]

Game of the year?

[@dwgreen108]

18:49 21:22 24:35 31:30 33:49 41:22 44:29 58:05 1:01:38 1:06:42 1:18:49 1:28:43

[@JuglarEuskaldun]

Reaver drop was just OP those days. Come on. 8 drones dead in 1 shot.

[@ejy-u1x]

They were not nerfed though. Still as powerful as they were back in the day.

[@petkovmarin]

10:21 the koreans are sick gamers

[@DawnOfDemise]

@dada78641 Problem is guardians get pwnd flat out by corsairs without even resisting. The Devourers were there to acid spore the corsairs so they couldnt shoot down the scourge and prevent them from landing on shuttles/carriers. Storks response is maelstromin the devourers and storming. Obviously he can carry both hight templar and dark archons in the shuttles. Absolutely crazy micro. I was more surprised Stork didnt get guardians at the end, but i guess he couldnt afford the tech.

[@iamElijah]

wow this game was ridiculous!! epic doesn't quite cut it!! never seen so many archons and dark archons before!!

[@Tyfyh]

@hypercub which year?

[@nazo132ify]

입스타긴 한데 왜 리콜 업글이 그렇게 늦어졌고, 마지막엔 왜 할루시에이션을 쓰지 않았을까..

[@수언-n3h]

마지막에 자원이 없었던같에요 아비터죽어서 다시 뽑고 2마리 거기다 보시면 가스만많아서 하템만뽑습니다

[@죽은채비빔밥]

근데 미니맵상으로 3시 지역 미네랄 있어보였는데 가스일까요?

[@수은-i5w]

​@@죽은채비빔밥 저그가 3시 밀리고 나서 드론 보내서 원정채광하던 장면이랑 토스가 프로브 보내서 5시 원정채광하는 장면 본 것 같은데, 5시는 확실히 오링났고 3시는 모르겠음

[@DawnOfDemise]

@RyantheCanuckpirate They always do that if it looks like it might be a draw. The players arent allowed to pause the game so the ref basically pauses to talk to Stork and ask if he wants to draw or if he is going to try to end it soon.

[@Gabrielbarsch]

longest game

[@best-one29]

내가 이경기를 라이브로 봤다는게 신기하다

[@Vendpunkt]

@hypercub Sure if the year was 2008.

[@KevooAxl]

Whats name song in this intro ?

[@iron3242]

1:13:13 왜온거죠

[@kevinkim3479]

Yes.The reason that the zerg can instantly mass produce. and 7~8 stoplurkers can pretty much 2shot your whole archon army. There are many ways to counter anything, even when most of them only have a few options. as long as you have better micro than your oppnent, you can pretty much counter anything IF you had a same sized army.

[@theAZenf1sh]

Hallucination woulda worked wonders in the last part of the game...

[@leetim825]

true unfortunately the casters said he didn't have money to develop at the end

[@Drunkbuddha4]

@xATrueFanx Your making an argument about overpowered races specifically mentioning splash damage being one of the reasons yet your talking about protoss? If any race had overpowered splash damage in bw it was terran. Tanks were ridiculously strong back then. I say everything in past tense because I stopped playing bw when sc2 came out even though brood war remains the greatest game in the history of man. And protoss were really not overpowered. Otherwise they wouldn't be the least used race.

[@Deucely]

This zvp is the reason we can't have nice things. There's always going to be that one guy who's like, if I don't lose, then I win. On a slightly sadder note, zvp and pvt vs turtlelords made me quit bw, these are thoroughly not fun. Anyhow, nostalgia made me watch it all so I guess that's that. Ty for uploading these.

[@yossarianpol]

why Stork didn't use hallucination?

[@아침형인간-p5m]

He didn't upgrade hallucination :) He didn't have resources for that

[@Entar0adum]

@jamchew1982 it were storks dark swarms from his mind controlled defilers

[@sinekonata]

48:45 > "this game cannot mathematically get any more epic!!!" 50:10 > *heart attack*

[@olegdangerous]

one of the best scbw games ever !

[@umomuio11]

No, the point here is harassment. The reason that you can merely lose a couple of Mutas and take out many many HT's throughout the game is because of bad detection, response timing, and unit homogenization/placement, which is actually really hard to manage (harder than micro'ing, as is the case on Zerg's side).

[@NA_MINYO]

에결 누가 나왔나요?

[@HeroesGamer3heroes]

Zerg

[@Winterkingdom1]

@hypercub This game is like 3 years old

[@loquendo218XD]

music?

[@최집사-u2z]

다크아칸 마컨으로 디파일러 뺏어먹은게 최고의 판단이엇다

[@Tomjrf]

hour and a half, I thought it is a whole match :)

[@stuffums]

Orange zerg is the best colour, it should never lose

[@flametitan100]

No. He means try to kill the High templar before the battle begins so that their numbers stay low.

[@nostalgia6669]

what happened at the end?

[@Keex11]

Zerg got eliminated through loosing all buildings.

[@rogernevez5187]

1:10:58 looked like a desperate match instead of a pro one ...

[@zinang319]

정말 골때리는 경기네ㅋㅋ

[@다타버린모기향]

디파일러 마컨은 설계였다... ㅠㅠ

[@종철최-i4q]

저것도 그렇고 저 경기보다 2년 전 박태민과의 네오 레퀴엠 경기가 일품이었음

[@prosatan]

yeap, it is bumped on tl...anyway thank youuuuuuuuuu~~

[@kyoungshinkim5598]

60분 짜리 경기 는 봤지만 씨발 84분은 처음 ㄷㄷ

[@이정현-z3z]

14:20 졸웃기네ㅋㅋ 로버틱스 확인 못햇다네ㅋㅋ 리버틱스가이미 잇는걸 봣는데ㅋㅋ

[@regielzyrusgarrido8579]

I can hardly see matches between sk players depleting an entire map

[@Ryuouken]

The very standard 1 hour arbiter tribunal. xD

[@beni1212]

크 섬에 럴커 몇마리만 있었어도 무승부였을텐데

[@김주영-y1l]

스웜아칸으로 건물만 쩜사하면되는상황이라 러커 몇마리 있어도 힘든상황이지 않았나 생각해봅니다

[@잭키춘-j6b]

물론 럴커가 많아지면 빡세긴하지만 아칸이 많아서 버로우 한 럴커도 스플래시로 잡으면 됩니다.

[@이건희-m1r3b]

이때 안드로메다에서 자원다파먹는 경기가 나왔네 👏👏

[@gabrielilloasesino]

Thanks Moktira

[@lcmpark]

41:29 죽이네 우와

[@Drunkbuddha4]

@Drunkbuddha4 It actually occurs to me that I don't actually know if that statistic is true for brood war also. Among the pro scene in sc2 protoss is used the least. I guess I just assumed it carried over. So don't jump my shit on that. I'm pretty sure that terran is still the predominant race in both games though. Also I want to make a savior shout out. He was my favorite brood war player. Until he got banned. Now I'm stuck watching Idra play zerg instead=(...I actually love idra though

[@snowflakepillow8697]

This game needs a Letterboxd page

[@X-ELA]

저거 스웜 송병구가친건데요?

[@danielkaspa]

stork had 16 archon, and recalled only 7 of them.

[@BabyPiggg]

송병구 진짜 장기전의 신이다 ㅋㅋㅋ

[@Calixtus]

Wtf are they doing? This game is unnecessary long.

[@arkeraymor]

game of the decade

[@수은-i5w]

11

[@잭키춘-j6b]

와 송병구 어린거봐. 뭔가 세대교체 느낌이 나네. 패패승승승에 대인을 장기전 끝에가서 송병구가 잡는다는 게

[@masterwoozo]

so nice end too this long match

[@백종원-z6p]

송병구가 1시 뚫을때 그냥 있는돈 1500원으로 가디언 하나 뽑았으면 되지 않았나

[@danielkaspa]

seemed because stork destroyed ggplay's expasion there. Look at 30 min, you'll see a zerg base on minimap.

[@quockienpham5714]

Hay quá

[@delta5297]

Dude I saw that pylon at 22:35 and thought, "holy crap, he needs to kill it before it starts warping in....warping in....wait a minute".

[@YG.999]

에결이 경기도 이어서 추천해주면 좋을텐데

[@Winterkingdom1]

it was 100000000000000000000000000 times more epic when moletrap and combat-Ex was commentating this game :)

[@Junho0225]

56:08 1:08:28 1:15:54 1:16:45 조규남