Splatoon 3 with a side of salt

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[@OrdinaryDonut13]

Honestly it’s refreshing to hear criticism of splatoon 3 with no aggression and minimal copium. We have seen the best of what splatoon has to offer and we just want the best for the series.

[@maplemiles3381]

The game with the third entry is in fact growing and getting better even given your lame cookie cutter comment. I have seen positive feedback after positive feedback with each update and not the complete opposite that ypur going to tell me.

[@bonkdonk297]

​@maplemiles3381 I've seen a lot of positive reviews of splatoon 3, and I've also seen a lot of negative reviews. I love this game, but there's nothing wrong with sharing that it feels like there's a couple things missing, and it is refreshing to hear criticism that isn't vitriol and hate. It's because people love this game that we want to see what's best for it, so we can see it succeed even more.

[@Overlordette]

@@bonkdonk297 this person in particular just goes to anyone talking negatively about the game and tries to virtue signal it as if it was as beloved as TF2 or even Overwatch 1 believe it or not thats sort of the norm with people who are obsessively playing Splatoon 3 for the competitive, since this game is just straight up Halo 5 instead of Halo 3 in terms of just casually playing multiplayer as in, its so competitively charged that I cant confidently play Turf War without some john wick coming along and spawncamping since "thats how you win"

[@HeDronHeDronHedron]

@@Overlordette so if I ink everywhere am I supposed to just let people kill me? Also “competitively charged” even though the maps were ruined so shit players wouldn’t get lost

[@fibsh546]

The Splatfest Hostility that you mentioned was something that really shocked me as well. Before the main event had even begun, people had gotten so heated that they were reporting posts cheering on teams that they weren't on, which soon became a big enough problem that other people had to make posts telling people not to do that. From what i saw, the banning/reporting issue died down as the actual splatfest started up, but that didn't stop people from spreading needless anger in other ways. I could literally sense the genuine anger and tension between teams as the event was happening, and i gotta say it kinda disturbed and ruined the fest for me.

[@ChaosUnown]

Splatoon of all games turning into one of the most toxic communities I’ve ever seen is just really fucking sad in my eyes. Seeing the discourse from the anniversary splatfest almost gave me depression

[@leiarobinson3549]

Yep!!! It was.....a mess. smh Hopefully the devs will think of a better way to make the themes more enjoyable and something that most folks would agree with, and also make it a hard decision between the three themes so that you have to choose one, that way we won't have a bunch of folks at each other's throats. It kinda ruined the fest for me too, splatfests are meant to be fun and enjoyable not stressful.

[@NekoBoyOfficial]

Stans and shippers are the worst.

[@ssjbread2803]

I've seen people break their fucking switches over splatfest. It's sad and pathetic.

[@Vaguer_Weevil]

What could even cause such hostility? I know it's competitive but c'mon

[@Konpeimimi]

I'm so glad to hear a big youtuber call this format out. It's become impossible for me to get invested in lots of titles I actually care about the last few years because it takes YEARS for the game to actually feel complete because of them relying on "FREE UPDATES EXTRA CONTENT UWU"

[@boydixonentertainment]

He’s not the only one but yeah, I traded Mario Golf after a few months and didn’t even bother with Battle League because with that pitiful roster, why should I?

[@Konpeimimi]

​@@boydixonentertainment Oh ofc he's just the first bigger creator on my radar that I've seen is all, and it's something I expected more people to talk about by now is all.

[@awesomeness1122]

And then if you hold out till its complete everyone playing it is so good that you just get Destroyed.

[@Konpeimimi]

@@awesomeness1122 Especially in games where they've already spent hours grinding for upgrades and meta items/equipment. Even WORSE if those items are p much if not flat out ARE exclusively premium battlepass rewards

[@gregvs.theworld451]

@@Konpeimimi They can come off as a bit of a pessimist, and the amount of cursing they do, or their humor might not be for everybody, but I tend to find Stephanie Sterling's channel Thejimquisition does a lot of good videos calling out bad industry standards in gaming, both in games and abuse workers endure as the "industry standard".

[@jukeboxjimmy8722]

For a game with no real microtransactions, it sure feels like it does.

[@LowPolyPigeon]

Fr though, if I didn't know any better I would say that the amount of grind feels like it's balanced to make paying microtransactions feel like the better option. You know, the way EA and other money-hungry companies do things; where your options are to sink in hundreds of hours working towards a single unlock, or just pay $10. But Splat3 doesn't have microtransactions, so why the heck is the grind balanced like it!?

[@ConcavePgons]

​@@LowPolyPigeonMaybe it's so you have to spend more on Nintendo Switch Online to be able to grind some more.

[@subjectnivleis7572]

feels like they were planningon having them at some point in development then scraped it but kept all the tedious grind that they wanted you to pay to get rid off

[@erak7]

It feels like a Game whit microtransactions whitaut microtransactions yeah

[@orhanefeunal1811]

Lets also not forgot you need pay to play online l

[@clarafedde8674]

"Early access preview" at full price...yes. this is true for several games....and some died bad. Glad this game is still ok.

[@jameslawrenson1208]

Nintendo should still slow down with this practice.

[@Lordxzamasu]

Not to mention there’s basically 0 customization because all the good/unique items are locked to a battle pass that takes a eternity to grind while the shop is stuck with the same crappy cloths I’ve even bought pretty much all of them

[@angeloctaviomendozadomingu3269]

I feel like this game is just on the brink of becoming an industry standard, but even I, a diehard Spoon fan, feel like they are still saving “the best stuff” for later, but who knows if that’s the case

[@oshurook2421]

Spoon… I like it

[@Vic_Trip]

as a former sploon fan, I've given up. I don't expect anything better and am moving on...

[@CheeseTheWhistle]

Why are you a fan of spoons?

[@WilliamMantooth]

I just want to PLAY ONLINE AND NOT PAY FOR IT!

[@tattisiti]

​@@WilliamMantoothYES! AND I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE OLD GAMES JUST LET ME PLAY ONLINE NINTENDO RAHHHHH

[@Violet-qo1px]

When it comes to the charger and splatling issue, hammerhead bridge makes it feel like you might have well already lost when the opposing team has those weapons since there's none existent cover and the map is literally a straight line

[@leiarobinson3549]

Exactly! Exactly! ☝Like don't get me wrong the map is fun, but when there's a charger or a splatling on the opposite team, it makes the stage feel like a prison and there's no where to hide.

[@JTruong3rd]

Roller main here, went all into Jr, custom Jr and splatana k Just to make chargers and splatlings have a miserable 3

[@averypatrick5279]

The "challenges" should be an entire new mode. Adding party modes in constant rotation would add so much value to the game casually.

[@staticaleel5068]

Honestly… I never understood why challenges are locked to specific times. I thought Nintendo learned their lesson from salmon run yknow? But at least splatoon 2 salmon run didn’t have terrible rotation times. Why the fuck would you limit a challenge mode to a time stamp of 1pm to 3pm??? On a school day? I thought this game was for kids Nintendo? How the fuck is anyone under the age of 18 supposed to play that challenge if they’re in school? And it’s so short too. Like just 2 hours for one single day? Wtf?

[@inazumarai7690]

@@staticaleel5068 inklings totally bunk school to participate in challenges, you just gotta do as they do, duh /s

[@NinjonLazarus]

@@staticaleel5068 I have a job and let me say, it takes away just as much time as school. If not, well at least it can make you even more tired than school. The challanges are always available when i work or i asleep.

[@rinyaskyline]

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who hates the catalog. It was a pain. I remember specifically last season I was one level short of an item that I wanted because I was actively moving into college during the last month of the season when I could have pushed for it. Also, I hate how hostile the splatfests have become. And it's really funny because over in Japan and Europe, they aren't seeing a lot of it. When I was interacting with someone from Japan they straight up didn't believe me that Team Frye was actively spawn camping and special bombing Team Shiver because they hadn't even seen a fraction of the NA threats going on :(

[@thelorekeeper8839]

Man NA can't have anything nice-

[@ryanhernandez1877]

>spawn camping and special bombing Average ranked match

[@StickMaster500]

It’s crazy to think that we only have another year of Splatoon 3 until updates for the game stop. Wild that it’s already been one year already!

[@NathanTruby]

Unless they decide to do it for 3 years because its splatoon 3

[@squiddler7731]

Stuff like side order apparently got delayed by 6 months, so some people are theorizing that updates will go on longer because of that

[@NathanTruby]

@@squiddler7731 that's probably for the best, because if side order comes out as bad as 3 is now, people would riot

[@dylantoney6971]

From what I can tell people’s issue with Splatoon 3 isn’t quality it is content tbh

[@spacewizardralt3106]

@@squiddler7731 i really do hope that updates would go on for longer with the internal delay, otherwise side order would release with only 2 seasons left in the lifespan of the game

[@Qualifimajesco]

Really shocked about the fact that you called out how chargers and splatlings are worse than the Aerospray. I definitely agree with you on that part. Dying constantly by these two weapons every single time is annoying to the point that I feel like I’m playing in a Wii U Splatoon match all over again (before it became unplayable with hackers).

[@chlozentimes]

I completely agree, it's nice to hear this from someone who loves splatoon knowing the criticism is more out of love instead of hate

[@statbrainrat]

The more i hear pointed out about this game, the more I come to realize I'm willingly keeping my eyes closed to have fun with the game.

[@FrahdChikun]

So you choose to ignore the reality of the situation?

[@feeshadrawz]

Of course 😁

[@dumbdaffodil]

The game definitely has A LOT of fun in it if you just take a break from focusing on the flaws all the time. I pretend I do not see can be healthy too XD

[@statbrainrat]

@@dumbdaffodil ive started to feel better about the game over the past year :) this is super true!! if you focus on the flaws all the time ofc its gonna seem bad

[@adrianoctavio]

Ive heard very good things about how this game handles work life balance, which is why I've been giving this game much more leeway than I normally do. Employee health matters way more to me than content speed. My two big worries are 1, is most of the remaining updates really only going to be focused on limited time events that'll go away at the end of the game's life cycle, and 2, on that note, how much content will be available at the end of the life cycle. I'm guessing they realized later on they want to extend the amount of time this game will get updated, because if they don’t, we maybe have two or three updates left, which is, bad.

[@everest5718]

I agree completely!

[@tryblight]

so true

[@guillermocervisalmeron2209]

Bro kits is just 30 seconds to make and a week to see if it's good, maps in chill season to sizzle were the same, idk if that excuse saves Splatoon or other games that tends that like Minecraft

[@newalbacore8352]

in both 1 and 2 they always have kept doing updates for longer so I won't be surprised if lets say we go at least until the end of 2024 and at the end of the final season that starts September 2024 they give us our final stages, and then we gets Sheldon's picks in early 2025. In 1 the updates were supposed to end at the end of summer 2015, but continued til January 2016 where they were supposed to be done again. Than Sheldon's picks were announced and the game continued to be updated til the final splatfest with smaller things. then 2 was supposed to end in July 2018, then ended up going full speed ahead with updates til the end of 2018. And even then they added Sheldon's picks back in 2019 and kept making new content for every splatfest and a final big update at the end of chaos vs Order. Hell, they did the same with new horizons. it was meant to get updates for a year and then they suddenly at the year and a half mark in November 2021 released the dlc. it's inevitable honestly they love gong past there set deadlines with every game since the first splatoon

[@smonkk8556]

@@guillermocervisalmeron2209 you do not understand how games are made.

[@hjonkhjonk_1645]

2:50 THIS!! As a carbon roller deco main, these new maps have been practically IMPOSSIBLE at times. Once you get to a certain rank (I’m at S+, for example), players get good enough that it’s near impossible to dodge chargers past using ninja squid to sneak around, and even then some players know to look for the trail that’s still there. The best experience I had playing was a few weeks ago with the challenge mode that was brushes and rollers only because it actually felt like a fair fight.

[@SomeEggGuy]

Same. I used to use carbon roller but I couldn't get close to anyone because of how little range I had. I ended switching to Areospray/Splattershot

[@milkycheeese]

im genuinley surprised carbon decos havent died out 😭😭 WE NEED TO STAY STRONG

[@emminet]

Carbon mains unite!!!

[@MarinaWithAnUltraStamp]

WITH A SIDE OF SALT

[@taghreedali1948]

True

[@sk8rgradient]

NO WAY

[@antoniohenderson6090]

WITH A PINCH OF SODIUM CLORIDE

[@cragl3yman343]

​@@antoniohenderson6090Uhh dude? It's salt.

[@jlg1362]

@@cragl3yman343 Yes. sodium chloride is salt, he's still right XD

[@dragontrainer140]

I have many gripes but I think my biggest is definitely how drinks are handled. They don't stack with a gears brand. In fact, you're just as well off using ANY brand with a drink, because your drink ability is rolled behind the scenes first and the game is coded that if your drink role ISN'T the selected ability, your given ability will be anything BUT the drink ability, even if the brand normally increases the odds. I always felt that at the very least, the drinks would be guaranteed to give you the chosen ability on the last slot. The second slot would have a 75% chance and the first slot would have a 50% chance. JUST MAKE DRINKS WORTH IT! Also, I don't need money or levels. LET ME TRADE MONEY AND LEVEL TICKETS FOR CHUNKS!

[@tommaczar673]

I can handle early releases with add-on content as things go on if there's two things. 1. An actually fun base game 2. A type of game that is able to be put together like a puzzle over time seamlessly

[@johndinner4418]

And it's not full price.

[@captaincozmo8529]

3. No microtransactions

[@longbeing]

That’s why I like Dead Cells, I got it three years ago, and it’s really grown since then. The gameplay is really fun, the DLC are worthwhile, the free updates are frequent and good, and because it’s a roguelike, adding new content works great. It seems like the devs keep working on it because they like the game too much to stop improving it.

[@MacDonellCashRicher]

I think the best examples of this system working are Monster Hunter World and Rise. Fun basegame, which was supported for a while until the DLC came out, which was an entirely new game on its own, which was then also supported for free for a year. The microtransactions are purely cosmetic. My one gripe is that both basegames lacked an endgame until the DLC came out.

[@ryanhernandez1877]

@@longbeing This is very very very very true. The devs just seem to love their game! Excellent for the fun factor, I think.

[@_Celestial]

My biggest upset with 3 is that they barely do anything with the Chaos theme. And the one thing they do with this theme (Big run) is one of my favourite things in the entire series and thats saying a lot since I've been playing since splat 1. I honestly would have taken some ripped t-shirts or the Chaos headgear we got for the Splatocalypse. My second most upset is that the weapon kits just arn't enough the earlier seasons like Chill and Fresh season was amazing but it's been an entire year now and theres still weapons with no second kits like the Squeezer, sure barely anyone plays Squeezer but the Big Swig Roller gets barely any use and that has a 2nd kit. I get that they want to get new weapon types out like the Dread wringer and Edit Splatling but I feel like they should have prioritised getting every weapon a 2nd kit 1st before rolling out all these new weapon types. Also fun fact: Side Order was supposed to be released this season for the anniversary but was delayed twice due to not being ready yet. I honestly don't mind though having a big run, a splatfest and a new story mode all in 1 month would be a bit too much to handle.

[@ari638]

From what I can tell, a lot of the "chaos" went into the design of splatsville. A city set in wastelands, all towering buildings made of mishmash parts haphazardly stacked together, thieves for idols, the shops and key locations scattered about the now much more expansive hub, and about as many different cultures as you could noticeably shove into one city. The splatfests (and of course big run) now also feel more chaotic with the way they're set up and performed (hastily constructed wooden mini-stages that shift all across the map, trying to combine 3 different cultures into one song)

[@fenneko8295]

For a game themed on "Chaos", it's as chaotic as a line at the DMV. Every map is just a funnel to a middle chokepoint with no flank routes for "chaotic" antics. The weapon kits and specials (compared to 2) are really underwhelming and the fact that we have EXTREMELY dry streams of content (no new maps, cosmetics, or weapons until the 3 month season ends) is really sad. The only time the game ever gets chaotic is during challenges... which only have 3 2-hour time slots at outlandish times for no good reason at all.

[@vividBloodsucker]

The Chaos theme thing is because pretty much most of the content seems made so they could have just slapped an "order" or "chaos" sticker on it once the splatfest was finished and call it a day. Scorch Gorge feels like the ONLY thing that really embodies that theme, and likely wouldn't exist if order had won. This lack of Chaos feels most prominent though, in the concepts for Deep Cut, most of the concepts that went unused embody that Chaos theme more in their designs (notably with Frye's punk, designs, and Big Man's concept of being an Octarian troop). The finalized designs seem to tilt towards an inoffensive middle-ground again, outfits that embody the culture-coding they represent more, just in case Order had won instead. Even Splatsville itself feels like it could just be reworked in-lore to fit the Order theme by just claiming it "brings order to the chaotic world of the splatlands" but I get it, they probably didn't want to deter folks away who weren't on Team Chaos or those that aren't fond of that idea, and it's also why the Callie vs Marie splatfest amounted to a mentor and brainwashed ally dynamic which was easy to swap, and overall had little impact in the grand scheme of things (especially when callie was more proactive in S3's story anyway)

[@SomeGaymerNerd]

I still have yet to experience big run, last one happened at 3 am for me 🥲

[@ari638]

@@SomeGaymerNerd pretty sure big runs last a full day/weekend like splatfests, no reason why you can't catch it

[@bajac22]

Totally agree with the battle pass points. I grinded that first pass because it was new and exciting. I was going to be playing the game anyway. But by the end of the first season, I was so tired of dealing with the grind. Plus, my respet of solo mode was complete by that point and Pokémon Violet soon consumed my time. When the second season launched and catalog levels were just as slow to grind, I lost all motivation. Side Order will bring me back, but unless they adjust some of the regular game aspects, they will lose me again. They need to adjust for us casual players. And trust me... I WANT to love this game. I dressed as an Octoling last Halloween! I love this franchise!

[@digglesgiggless]

I always felt BAD that I stopped having motivation to play this game after like a month, and even when I did, it was only for splatfest events. This video kinda listed ALL the things that were bothering me about it. It's really hard to pick up a game that only rewards you when you spend an unholy amount of time grinding. Not everyone's got the free time for that.

[@celestialspark5697]

People create this illusion in their minds that you have to grind to play this game, for some reason. It's really weird for me to see people think that chunk grinding is actually a thing, since it should take maybe 10 chunks of 2-3 different types to fine tune a set after you roll the abilities on it, and you have to do this like, maybe three or four times to have equipment for every weapon, and Salmon Run throws hundreds and hundreds of chunks at you, and it doesn't even matter much to begin with. Many pros don't even have more than a few gear sets at this point since you don't get gear exp from private battles. Similarly, if you play a few hours a day, you'll max around five to six catalogs in a season; maxing the only one that matters takes about one game a day, or only playing each Salmon Run rotation up to 1200 points would get you there as well.

[@gemain609]

It's so bad, like my motivation to play is incredibly low because the time to reward ratio in sploon 3 is absurd. Which is compounded by the fact that the maps suck and just aren't fun to play on for long periods of time

[@andrewazar6716]

I completely agree I love splatoon so much but after that a couple month I never had the motivation to play but I do sometimes and grind but it’s just it doesn’t come to me all the time saying I have to go okay it now do you what I mean

[@scribblecloud]

yeah! :( im not a person, and honestly who is, who can care about a game all year, ill just have my moments where i wanna play, and then where im just taking a break, i remember trying to grind out the spring catalog because i really wanted that one seafoam outfit and it was hands down the LEAST fun i have ever had in the game so now i just gotta accept that ill only get very few lame rewards every season :/ the only time i finished a catalog was in the very first season because i was obviously hyped about the game and was playing it nearly EVERY single day and even THEN i only finished the catalog around 1-2 weeks before the end of the season so how in the fuck are you supposed to get anywhere CLOSE to getting it when just playing casually?

[@scribblecloud]

@@celestialspark5697playing SEVERAL hours EVERY single day is a LOT, thats more dedication than i spend on fucking school 😂

[@obviouslyweb]

The analysis in this video is spectacular. As much as I love Splatoon 3, there's a pretty big reason why for a while I only played the single player and then fell off. There simply hasn't been enough content until now for online, and even now it's a limited bunch.

[@TheKrisMaster4]

You hit the nail on the head for so many points. That’s exactly how I feel about the grind.

[@yuppers4460]

The grind for splatoon definitely is my biggest grievance love how well you worded the problem as well. Like why does the silly squid game expect me to play nonstop it’s unreasonable 💀

[@Silenrea]

I remember the days when buying a game was the entire game and it took a good length of time to come out, and it was like getting the pristine quality. Like a slow-cooked steak with it prepared perfectly with all the care of a professional chef. Now it feels like games are equivalent to Fast Food. Sure, they give you what you asked for but then they forgot things, messed up the order and then you have to wait even longer for them to fix what should have been there from the beginning.

[@nintydo_]

I really wish that Nintendo adds some variety to the map layouts. Hopefully, with Part 2 of the dlc coming up, we get something like that

[@messydesk_animation_studios]

I decided to go back to Splat 2 while last weekend's Splat 3 splatfest was going on because of how toxic they can be, and I enjoyed Splat 2 SO much more. The maps were much better, and everything just felt more fun. I even encountered some people from earlier groups of matches because of the small player pool, but I really don't mind. At least with my matchmaking luck, I usually got a full group of 8 within up to a minute.

[@nathanl.8095]

You are completely correct in everything about this game. It's an amazing fun time gated by the developers blocking features and releasing content in odd waves. It's sad that this is the new norm for games

[@inazumarai7690]

i think it's more to do with the content itself and how it affects what's already there

[@patrickmason4250]

Scott is so right about the "premade of 4 training for their next scrim sporting their one-tricks they have 500 hours in." A majority of these players just... have no life (Not sorry, it's true). I can't even enjoy the game casually anymore, speaking as a guy who has a graphic design day job. I don't even want to be a pro, I just want to... like, play the game but it's practically impossible when the game thinks the best way to make teams is to pit squads up against solo queue players. I mean, what a joke.

[@HeDronHeDronHedron]

No life is when you win video games

[@gravityinbound]

So true. The casual to tryhard ratio in this game is so unbalanced that it's not even fun to meme and goof around with the weirder weapons in turf war anymore.

[@scaper12123]

4:57 HOLY SHIT it's not just me! All of my friends told me I was being hyperbolic whenever I tried a new weapon in turf war and got stuck with deadweights while playing against X-ranked players. I feel vindicated! (Maybe i shouldn't tho cause the weapon that broke that long streak was... a Splatling)

[@klother4175]

Same here. I remember trying out the rapid blaster deco in a turf war on sturgeon shipyard and 2 out 4 players I were facing had that silver X rank badge. There tetra duelies spended no time and rush to our base where he consistently spawn camp us. Needless to say me and friends did NOT had fun in that match

[@malayvetal1892]

This feels like a therapy session to me and the rest of the burnt out splatters who feel the need to keep playing this game we love in the face of boredom/burning out. Thank you for validating my dried out desire to play through 2023 Drizzle Season.

[@gemain609]

Straight up only got halfway through the Sizzle season catalog. Dunno how far I'll get in drizzle season v2

[@Blueboibeegcool]

Nah fr

[@kermitthealmighty3266]

its crazy to go back to splatoon 2 and see the sheer amount of variety you have in your kit choices, there are so many kits in that game. they gotta ramp up kit production to give us more than like, 6 every 3 months.

[@7grandmac]

Technically, it’s been _under_ a year since Splatoon 3 released 🤓

[@justinr.507]

Ah, Splatoon 3 prerelease

[@BloodSlimeNuggit-un9fg]

Okay! I am not old!

[@JuanHernandez-qt6tf]

Well I mean if they just release everything on spot instead of gradually adding to it, people would complain that the game got boring within three months.

[@zathanz0]

As a Big Splatty Fan since 1 on the Wii U, all these points hit SO close to what I think about the game as well. I have like 500 hours in the game and even then I stopped playing after season 2. There just wasnt enough. Period. I wish so much that Nintendo would drop their. "Hey we are a special snow flake so we do things differently." Mentality as skipping out on Quality of Life things and good buisness practices sure makes you unique but the games and communities suffer SO much because of it. I kind of hope this video reaches a larger audience as a PSA of sorts about the state we Sploon fans are in atm.

[@ddnava96]

I honestly liked S2 update format better. Not only we had 3 new stages every 3 months (as opposed to 2), but having one each month gave me a reason to come back every single month instead of having the game stay the same for 3 months. Also, we used to get new weapon kits every week, keeping the game fresh at all times

[@littleguystar]

The whole thing about talking about how aggressive Splatfests have gotten really made me wake up a little. I started on Wii U with Splatoon 1 in that small pocket of a community, but 3 is an entirely different story. there’s plenty of people now, and a lot of them new. I’m as casual as a X Battle player gets and don’t really interact online much so I don’t really consider such a massive change as something possible.

[@staticaleel5068]

Yeah. I’ve seen way too many people get aggressive about team choices and idols recently. I get it, shiver is on a winning streak and it’s annoying. But I don’t think this calls for any shiver hating or harassing people who like the character. People are starting to take these fests too seriously ngl

[@FrahdChikun]

​​@@staticaleel5068honestly if the splatfest results didn't affect the amount of snails players got in the end I'm sure people would be a lot more lax with each other. The fact that the 2nd and 1st place teams get more than 3rd means that there is a legitimate reason to treat the event seriously, which ruins the fun of the festival.

[@chickennicken4459]

I got so hyped up for splatoon 3 and after a few months of playing it, I got sick and bored of it. I thought I was weird for not playing all the time, only completing like two catalogs and seeing everyone else with better weapons, clothes and victory dances. After watching this I realised that it was completely normal to have just stopped playing, ty.

[@xtrem5428]

The chunk system makes the grind for abilities so much easier now. I'm so happy for that. In Splatoon 2 I didn't even get my optimal gear at all, while now I have it completed for multiple weapons.

[@OG_Yaki]

Also another thing for side of salt, the way that the inner mechanics of the game work, it’s more common for those who have an early year switch (2017-2018) to be disconnected

[@WeekdayNerds]

I love me some Splatoon that it’s basically the game I would play everyday, but you do have a point. Quite a few actually, thanks for sharing your thoughts. Gave me a lot to think about.

[@commissarrezzik8713]

This was the first splatoon game I was able to get into at release and frankly, I agree with everything you said. I was so excited to play when it was new and after like a week, I was bored, tired of the grind, and just flat annoyed at being booted from every other multiplayer match. I still love the game but I don't play it as often as I would have liked.

[@TheShaded1]

There's a lot great with the game, especially competitive and balancing wise, but I totally agree we need more stuff, great vid

[@creblu102]

I legitimately think that Splatoon 3 was a finished game from launch, or at least a $60 game. At launch, you got: -Online multiplayer mode with 12 stages each playable with 4 different ranked modes and a casual mode, playable with 55 different weapons with 14 different sub weapons and 15 different special weapons. -Story mode campaign with many different levels, bosses, upgrades, and more (that also isn't a repeat of the previous game's campaign). -Salmon Run upgrade with QoL changes, new stages, new grizzco weapons, new special waves, and new boss salmonids (and no time lock). -Tableturf and locker decorating side modes to complement shell-out machine and catalogs. -Seasonal catalog with variety of new gear, emotes, and extras. -Tons of headgear, clothing, and shoes with 26 unique gear abilities to customize with. -Way too much music with new bands and Deep Cut. -Smaller QoL changes and extras. To me, this seems like a complete game (It also seems like a good excuse to restart the terrible meta game created by Splatoon 2). oops this was a long comment

[@eggarino]

Yeah, agreed. There are plenty of other criticisms that can be said for Splat3 but it absolutely is a full game with a TON of content. Getting hundreds of hours from game on launch means it’s a full game

[@nickeronii]

I played the story mode and it was incredible. I paid extra for online so I could run the matches because I love Splatoon. I was matched against people who had grinded it out from day 1, couldn't get ground due to chargers in the back, and I was kicked out, basically everything you said. I got bored of it immediately, and once I 100% the story-mode I uninstalled and started waiting for the new story-mode DLC to drop.

[@CJ_Hyperfresh]

I adore Splatoon 3, been with the series since 2, but yes I agree with everything you've said to a tee. Really hope things are going to improve in all aspects going into it's 2nd-year.

[@raviaviaviavioli]

This modern way of nintendo gaming feels so cheap honestly, I don't mean to pull a "back in my day" but in the DS-3DS era of gaming and below they used to actually RELEASE COMPLETE GAMES because they simply didn't have the tools to rush out a half-baked product to try and frantically fix with content patches.

[@dragonsswarm1987]

This feels like a bucket of salt and I'm not even halfway through.

[@remcrimson2750]

Man treated Scarlet and Violet leagues better compared to this and that game is still a glitchy mess despite the patches

[@ThePotionMaster413]

It comes from a place of passion. Its from the frustration of loving a game but knowing that its not anywhere near its full potential

[@samohanka]

I agree 100% with EVERYTHING in this video. Also, note that we're getting 2 years of content updates, 3 if Nintendo says so... And we're already a whole year in. Ugh.

[@yourlocalidiot-1472]

YES A SEQUEL VIDEO FOR A SEQUEL GAME!

[@isturma]

Sploon 3 is my first Sploon. I owned 2, but because shooters were never my bag AND I had ladder anxiety (look it up) I never played it. I tried out the Sploon 3 testfire and because it was a splatfest, I played because I wanted to join this awesome ingame party. I went back and played Sploon 2 until 3's release, but focused on 3 when it launched. The catalog is meant for you to play (and win at least once) daily. I normally don't have a problem finishing the catalog, but since this season has everything "new" in the first 50 levels, I might not bother. I finished the solocampaign, got ruler of splatfest, and generally have a lot of fun. I've gone back to 2 and played through the story and the Octo expansion, and it hits differently than 3. 2 is more of a "jelly bracelets and counterculture edginess" whereas 3 feels more "Grown up." Maybe because i'm older than the playerbase, but that kind of endears 3 to me more than "glittery ink" 2 does.

[@WindWerehog]

5:55 THIS at first I had my doubts, since it was only the Deserted Island one and everything else seemed pretty subjective, but when I saw the Triforce power I knew i mean, i knew i was Team Power, but yeah, the splatfests can be pretty damn unbalanced. there's also certain groups that follow each Idol no matter the theme, I genuinely wonder what effectthey have on the outcome.

[@vb8133]

I honestly think the Triforce Splatfest was one of the more subjectives one

[@TheRestlessSableye]

Between this, the barebones Mario sports titles, Pokémon's drop in quality, to even the online service itself paywalling 20+ year old games, I feel like Nintendo has really been showing their corporate side with decisions like these.

[@Neoxon619]

At least with Pokémon, Nintendo doesn’t fully control that franchise.

[@AzureMoebius22]

I don't much care for the multi-player outside of Salmon Run. But they were working with some new stuff and it is possible that they wanted to be sure the new stuff would mesh well with the old. It's like Kirby and the Forgotten Land. The ability selection was heavily limited, but this was also something very new for the series.

[@jayseal633]

Me and all my friends got the game on launch. We were a bunch of splat 2 vets, with some of my friends even doing well competitively. Before the end of 2022 almost all of us stopped playing. Now, I’ve rechecked out the game for the final fest, and with the nearly 2 years of updates and dlc, the game is fun! It’s not a sniper’s world, it’s not (completely) Tetris maps, and the game as a whole received the updates it needed. But it’s too late. The discord server where I had so many good memories is dead, and the friends I know irl who played aren’t interested in coming back. Splatoon 3 is a game that should’ve been but wasn’t.

[@Ganey16]

Seriously this is exactly the problem I was having with this game, I've been playing Splatoon since the first one and while I was able to play the first two games for months on the regular, I burnt out on 3 after season 1. While I LOVE the changes and additions to the main systems of the game, it really feels like they did everything in their power to make this game not playable on a casual level. Even Turf war seems to be constantly filled with high rank players looking to level up their gear since that takes so much time to do. The maps make Chargers and Splatlings, some of the most frustrating weapons to play against on a casual level, just dominate. With the maps we have now these weapons often take a coordinated effort to take down and that's not something you can rely on when your with 3 randoms. I never feel like I can relax when playing this game anymore as every game I play feels like competitive, I understand alot of this is due to turf war being inherently unbalanced and I would LOVE more casual versions of competitive modes, the half step with have right now is... ok, but its still a ranked mode. This was a issue I never had in 1 or 2, yet in 3 no matter where I go I feel like I drowning in a ocean of sweat. I can't blame anyone for trying to be good at the game, god knows I still try, but I feel like the design of the game has started to encourage this as the only way to really play. The combination of little content, bad map design, a sweaty community, and grindy rewards, just killed my love for this game. Which is a a SHAME since it easily could have been my favorite game in the series, as its mechanicaly very solid.

[@ursui8879]

One of my biggest concerns about this game is the fact that I have sooo many tickets between the food and drinks because my character can't seem to have a sippy sip after eating it's sandwich. It's such a let down to not be able to use both food and drink tickets at the same time, specially since they both have different effects.

[@_Stray]

I think this was all a lot more obvious on launch than we gave it credit for

[@ChrisHinners008]

6:34 i like salmon run but eventually you just get stuck in losing streaks because the higher ranks are just, impossible.

[@Mr.C_the_Artist]

5:00 i know this video is old but thid literally happened to me yesterday i decided to change to some dualies, get out of my comfort zone and the moment the game starts i see all my other team mates have Aerosprays, it probably wasn't they're first time playing but you can probably guess who my opponents were and how it ended

[@eeveemation-studios]

yeah this sums up how i feel about splatoon 3 tbh i love this franchise so much and i remember being a little worried about how much of a grind this game seemed to be when they were first showing us the game and i really didnt want to feel discouraged by that after the first season i barely play now and the amount of disconnects were very demotivating :') i played a bunch of salmon run back then but the rng on the scales are ridiculous and it kinda sucks that i'll probably never unlock most of the collectibles cause of that might come back to the game when the dlc comes out, for some reason ive always been a huge enjoyer of the singleplayer cause that's all i used to play in the first game when i was like 10 lmao

[@Moss_Dude]

Yeah, I sorta dropped off the game after completing the first catalogue, figuring "I'll come back when there's a good amount of weapon variety, maybe when my main gets a special I'm hoping for or even an alt kit at all." None of those conditions have happened yet.

[@darkop3191]

Squid Surge in a game with stages that lack inkable walls lol The stages are the worst of the series and the worst aspect of Splatoon 3 imo but the two new stages are better.

[@frodo-baggins420]

You know you did something right when you piss off Maple Miles. 😂

[@HeDronHeDronHedron]

He called me an “entitled toxic narc” for saying that we should have third kits like all the other games

[@frodo-baggins420]

@@HeDronHeDronHedron He said I suck at the game for criticizing a stupid weapon kit.

[@KaitoKenny]

This is very interesting. I couldn't really explain why I felt exhausted just launching the game after season 1, but this explains it... This is unfortunately very accurate.

[@Tachyon322]

Splatoon 3 with a side order of salt

[@richardmiller2667]

I agree and I feel like one of the big let downs in salmon run is the reword system. The only way to get anything good is with the scales and those are awefull to try to earn after an hour of playing you face a boss salmon and loose and only get like 4 brons scales it makes it impossible to really get anything for a casual player I play a ton but without voice chat and being matched with random people makes it just that much harder.

[@chronodis]

I still love how nintendo online has had 0 quality gain since when it was FREE

[@TheEntireMoon]

Woah You litterally I said, at launch, im not buying a whole game that just feels like a hud update , dlc, and the whole lobby thing It always just felt like A dlc...

[@lemonlime79]

Happy First Anniversary Spoon! ❤ I LOVE SPLATOON ❤

[@DrCrab-vp2vc]

I just love breaking ankles with my paintbrush. Only buckets and splatlings can catch me.

[@probablyink4218]

I honestly think the update format is good, we just need more content from each one

[@byrontheusurper6505]

5:21 I'm sorry WHAT THE FUCK? The splat fandom has been so good to me why do I always find out about this shit at the worst times?

[@thegamebot13762]

chargers and splatlings are the reason i run the forge splattershot pro with mainly special charge up

[@Freelancer837]

Salmon Run was basically my favorite thing to do in Splatoon 2, but it just sucks in Splatoon 3. Who thought it was a good idea for the Smallfry and Chum THE TWO MOST BASIC ENEMIES OF SALMON RUN, to be able to splat you in only two or three hits? Wtf? Is them ping-ponging you around not enough? Just leave the big damage to the big bad enemies. Also, Big Run is hilarious since Samlon Run on these maps not made for Salmon Run are more fun than every Salmon Run map.

[@KunoichiPeri]

10:53….unreasonable? Too hard? Sir, stop being stupid, you are going WAY to E Z! I dropped Splatoon 3 almost a full year ago, and at this point am unable to get ANYONE not even my young nephews to ever pick it up again either! 😢

[@RouxTheKitsune]

I want the Kensa weapons back with their original loadouts.

[@HeDronHeDronHedron]

Bro we do not need kshot AGAIN

[@michaelcrewson2868]

This is honestly such a good video Scott! Tbh i have my fair share of grievances with splatoon 3, like they basically havent made a alternate kit for splatana Stamper mains, and have essentially buffed regular splatana so that it does what stamper does but better, including increasing the size of the swipes and buffing its specials! Really sucks to have almost a hundred new blasters/shooters but then stuff thats ACTUALLY NEW WEAPONS in splatoon 3 get shafted

[@1Edyn1.]

My heart was with you the whole time, thank you Splat3 feels to me like it’s punishing you for wanting to play and enjoy it right now

[@1Edyn1.]

Like the multiplayer does not work since it’s still in stoneage, matchmaking of any kind doesn’t exist and salmon run got choked up on bad stages and is disgustingly overpriced

[@tryblight]

9:53 This point also applies to salmon run (the most). Boss salmonid scale rewards are minimal in number AND rng based. You only get bosses every few rounds, and even then silver and gold scales are not guranteed. plus you will usually only get one at a time, especially for gold. And then the store where you spend scales will have numbers in the hundreds. Buying one of each item in the salmon run store is probably impossible to do within a reasonable time. oh and while you spend all that precious time on salmon run, *you are not leveling up because salmon run only increases catalog level, not player level.* i hate that the most tbh. edit: typo

[@PillowEgg]

I definitely agree with your video. The maps suck with no options for flanking. You can’t use the jukebox music in matches. There is no option for music volume master control. And this game feels like a total grind with fomo elements. It feels less rewarding to get drink tickets instead of actual permanent customization options. This game feels barebones and it doesn’t feel like a hefty effort from Nintendo. The grind enough for catalogue and progression takes away time from other Nintendo video game and purchases.

[@alenor210]

I really hope they add some way to reliably get exclusive gear from old catalogues, even if it’s like 50 gold scales or something else crazy. I stopped playing last winter bc I realized I was playing for FOMO instead of for fun, and that really soured my whole experience. And from what it seems, they haven’t fixed that. The game itself is so much fun to play, but when they release gear so infrequently and the best stuff is locked behind a limited time wall of grinding, you just lose the fun incentive to play.

[@necromancerxel7019]

If you want to complete the battle pass, just play once a day. The first win boost is enough to get a level and the big run and splatfest allows to speed grind

[@Korvalus730]

I started on Splatoon with 3 little more than a month ago with the new pack they released and quite honestly I didn't know what to expect or what would I find when starting the game so my opinions might not be the most reliable. As for now I can properly say I found the game SUPER FUN and I love near every aspect of it. It's not perfect, but the issues I found are usually because I'm new and I can barely remember to use my secondary weapons or to roll with Dualies, to showcase my N00b-ness. However I agree in several points with you. The connection problems are thankfully rare for me, but they're an annoying letdown when they happen. If they were more frequent in the past, I understand people getting sick of it. Maps are straight forward, but I wouldn't think they doesn't allow flanking or avoiding the central messes altogether (but can be risky in some maps). I myself has an habit of going to the flank and unleash hell from there/deep inking into enemy turf. Lost count how many times got splatted by others thinking the same, but worth it every time. Yeah, I usually go Shooters, Dualies or Rollers. Catalogs are grindy, but REALLY grindy. more than a month and I'm still at 21. True, I'm casual and I play around 3~5 Turfs every 2 days give or take. But I believe the rate of unlocking should be a little higher with the catalogs lasting only 3 months. Upgrades' randomness can be annoying if you're going for "The Build". But I've suffered enough of that in the past in other games and nowadays I just seek to have around half dedicated and whatever on the others (and LOOK GOOD. This is NOT negotiable). Maybe half the annoyance comes from a mindset I have "outgrown". So all in all, as a NEWBIE (yes, ALL CAPS) Splatoon 3, and the franchise in general has become one of my favourites. Of course it has problems, but I've gone through worse on AAA's before and still played them. So I'll "Veemo"-ing in there for a long time. See ya on the Turf!

[@abrittishpanfish6269]

incredible how 3 games in and the map design has regressed to where tf2 was back in 2007

[@abrittishpanfish6269]

part 3 of Dustbowl could get mirrored and added and nobody would question it

[@HeDronHeDronHedron]

@@abrittishpanfish6269 2fort is just hammerhead bridge

[@Kcools2371]

As someone who’s played all the games and got all the available dlc this feels like a letdown especially splatfest it feels so competitive like official tournament competitive and then people dis on the idols ( mainly shiver ) about the splatfest and going to the mass report over picking other team is dumb and then people see this and then still go on to dis the idols ( again mainly shiver )

[@trappist-x]

"New Salmon run suits!!" Oh cool i'll never get those...

[@recon0503]

The entirety of the game has a half baked feeling to it, like they were insecure on what they wanted to add to the game or what to do with it. The new movement abilities for Inklings and Octolings are fantastic! But the Maps in Multiplayer RARLEY take advantage of these new abilities. Salmon Run had like the fewest new additions (But they were all amazing!) and it was FINALLY allowed to last 24/7 but it gets the LEAST attention! Remember when Tri-Color was supposed to be a surprise thing that happened at random when playing Open or Pro? Remember how it was supposed to be the half-time leader defending all the time and not interchanging? And because of the map of choice being a regular stage but flipped a bit and spawn-points messed around it was either a slaughter, or a landslide for the Defending Team? Remember how this was pretty much the only new Mode to Splatoon 3 in the first year until challenges came out? They had no clue what they were doing with this mode for the first few months of the game. What hurts wanting to play on the reg is that vast majority of new Maps force you down one or two routes with NO flanking routes for the most part. You get exhausted and burned out playing because to some extent you ARE being strangled and told where to go and push in all the maps with few to no flank routes and all the maps being Tetris Blocks. It's like the new Map Designers only had fun playing in absolute murder-fests or they're trying too hard to make maps for the competitive scene where it's as balanced as it could be, which results in everyone else getting bored with the map rotation. Variety is the Spice of Life, and Splatoon 3 has only a drop of it. You got several great modes! And very few ways to play those modes, or the mode itself is barebones

[@windowpanememberrrr]

i have so much love for this series but the fact there is only one more year of updates is such a bummer for the amount we've gotten for the first year

[@AndrewTaylorNintyuk]

the "this is the only game you can play" is 100% biggest issue with splat 3. I burnt out on it and not even splatfests could lure me back. That and also I never fully got the hand of squid platforming.

[@zacharymelton2409]

The connection problems are what did it for me and my friend group. Constantly disconnecting, often at the literally very end right before the results screen, crushed any desire for us to keep playing. And yes, it still happens. I have zero problems on any other game, even Nintendo games. It's abysmal.

[@peytonboudreaux1473]

Anyone who has maxed out all the catalogs can’t beat the unemployed aligations

[@rappytap948]

I think Battle Passes are fine if done properly, but they usually never are, which is incredibly unfortunate. The biggest problem with them is that they're always such a fucking chore to grind out. They're the biggest Time Disrespect you could put in a game, even in games that *do* otherwise respect your time. It is indeed getting very tiring seeing them literally everywhere with absolutely nothing unique between any of the games that do them.

[@HKIHNDKNSI]

The only one that wasn't bad for me was RDR2 but look at what happened to that game

[@CallMeVidd]

The worst thing to me about the netcode is as a dualie main, the dodge roll is just completely useless half the time cause you may roll but your hitbox sure doesn’t

[@abandoned__]

its good to see the community criticise the game out of love. there's so much fun to be had with splatoon, and i absolutely LOVE the series, but some frustrating issues mentioned in this video are definitely sabotaging what splat3 could be

[@kennethmcswain2820]

Honestly, Nintendo could have made Splatoon 1 DX and then transitioned it into Splatoon 3. With the hosts temporarily taking over city or its broadcast leading you to new city and linking it to the story mode. Your character following Captain Cuttlefish or becoming the new captain if you connect it to your Wii U account, and joining Callie and Marie in confront the trio since Shiver is a octarian and they may presume they're returning.

[@ftwinzeler]

I think the biggest thing that kept Splatoon 1 engaging was the fact that they basically updated with a new weapon or map every single week. Splatoon 2 is different but it felt like we got a different content drop every month, and then when 2.0 dropped, it was like a nuclear bomb worth of stuff Now it just feels like a battle pass rotation with no mid-season updates. Don't like the content? Tough luck. See you in 3 months

[@mewzaque2085]

I’ve found normal battles are really fun when I’m playing with my brother, since we have a strategy where I main the trash can, head straight to the other teams base, and start covering it and running around acting as an annoying distraction while my brother, a roller main, covers our base and makes his way to the center. By the time I’m killed, he and our teammates have covered half the map, and the other team is still too distracted cleaning up my mess to notice I know it’s just my play style, but I don’t have as much fun playing exclusively with randos, since there’s never been very good communication between teammates. “Booyah” “over here” and “ow…” can do a lot, but it’s hard to communicate “DO NOT JUMP TO ME DEAR GOD DO NOT JUMP TO ME ITS A TRAP ITS A TRAP ITS A TRAP” without free vocal channels

[@yeeeeeeeeeeooooooowwccch]

splatoon 3 mob psycho 100 real