Why You Shouldn't Buy The RDF/LT

[@Spookston]

I don't think I would be nearly as mad about this if they didn't namedrop me on the dev stream, expecting me to actually approve of their implementation

[@flappy3635]

It’s almost like they added it for in hopes you would make a video on it and get you’re viewers to purchase it

[@Last_Baguette0001]

True that

[@Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933]

They hinted at you without specifically name dropping you.

[@FatherGrigori]

I was hyped for this thing man, hopefully they'll end up buffing the reload and adding the applique armor later down the line.

[@Darkel45]

You could actually change the game, but as we know! Gaijin isn’t very good at pleasing it’s players. (Because they simply don’t)

[@PNolandS]

Everyone: "This will certainly be Spookston approved!" Spookston: "Look at how they massacred my boy."

[@Taluien]

Also Spookston: "You utter fool! You buffoon! And more fool me, for engaging in this tomfoolery to try and better you!"

[@srinivaschilakala216]

Lol

[@Iammshadowkiller]

I mean, he aint wrong, feels like us tech tree doesnt get the same attention as the russian one

[@aiedenoldstien9751]

​@@Iammshadowkiller Yea. But the moment you bring it up the Russian mains scream copium and for them to silence. Though when they hand Gajin a crayon page of how the Russian r-73 or something should be doing 360s at Mach 4 towards their enemies. Gajin would immediately do it.

[@flabbergast_se]

@@aiedenoldstien9751 You mean when someone sent in and said that the 2s38 reload was too slow and they buffed it without any sources needed?

[@Td825]

“Any man can make mistakes, but only an idiot persists in his error”- Marcus Tullius Cicero, commenting about Gaigin and the HSTVL

[@luigidomenicopace1329]

errrare humanum est, perseverare diabolicum

[@dragoneye0979]

The disconnect between what sources are allowed for gaijin sources and what sources are allowed for everyone else is ridiculous. I have had bug reports denied when using videos of manufacturer representatives talking at events like eurostatory, but then watched as challenger 2 TES and OEM got their side skirt thicknesses reduced where the source was pixel measuring a stock photo

[@Anorexic_Clown]

this is actually funny, wtf is gaijin smoking

[@geodkyt]

Wait a damned minute, the whole *point* pf the ARES 75mm was the relatively high ROF. They even had a "three round burst" engagement method. And the *publicly admitted* penetration of the "good stuff" developed for the cannon was roughly equivalent to contemporary 105mm APFSDS. The only excuse for the "no applique" package is if you are using it in an *airborne insertion* scenario. In literally any other scenario, applique armor would have been added (just as the later M8 AGS would have operated).

[@blackegret666]

Remember: This is the same guy who interviewed an engineer on the HSTV-L Project so he knows what he's talking about.

[@Spookston]

He was a contracted analyst that did projections for the HSTV-L's off-road speed, I just couldn't fit all that in the title so I put engineer

[@tafYT.]

Which is why the 2s38 should go down to 8.3!

[@AlRizz187]

​@@tafYT.What?!?!? That BR is way too high.

[@Balls2thenye]

@@tafYT.heck naw that thing gets and autoloader with good pen and also can be an AA also the 2s38 is better then the hstvl

[@barrybenson5671]

@@tafYT. NO WAY. It should be 7.7

[@the_undisputed_king_5395]

I love how gaijin just selectively decided which military documents it wants to use

[@pilotmanpaul]

To this day, the T-90Ms APS is still not added or the 2S38s hydraulic suspension.

[@mrstrider8847]

I can easily see them just picking a single document and thinking that's all they need, which leads to such inaccuracy. Although I'd expect the first best thing to be representative of the specs, even if there are some disagreeing documents. But this wouldn't be the first time Gaijin chooses the one that is least accurate.

[@aenodarr7936]

@@pilotmanpaul Or the Su-27/Mig-29s appropriate speed bleed, or the r-77 on yak-141 (kind of a stretch but it itself is a stretch), or the datalink which shows what your teammates see on their radars that Su-27 has from the beginning. The list can go on, but US mains decide to overlook all of it and focus on their specific vehicles that are already pretty good

[@yourfriendlyneighborhoodcl4824]

⁠@@aenodarr7936Im not a US main but you are also just focusing on Soviet/Russian vehicles like they do. It’s normal if they focus on their own vehicle because that is most likely the vehicles they will play.

[@RhodesianSuperiority]

@@pilotmanpaulcomplaining about broken russian vehicles as if they arent massively out performing their irl counterparts 💀 cope harder

[@PablitoAndCo]

Gaijin trying to not fuck up whatever vehicle Spookston likes challenge (impossible)

[@nattly6340]

litteral US army documents: "no we dont believe these stats to be right" Russian KZbin advertisement: "oh we missed some internal spall liners? thank you for this fantastic correction, it shall be added post haste!"

[@evilfurryfromnowhere4100]

Если бы... Мы у них годами просим фикса багов и изменение растительности - 0 реакции. Многие хотят советский колесный танк - 0 реакции. Они слушают только то, что помогает им заработать, а не какую то определенную группу/нацию.

[@aiedenoldstien9751]

​@@evilfurryfromnowhere4100 I just so happens that ironically the thing that makes them the most money is the Russian tree

[@noobhue1997]

​@@aiedenoldstien9751 oh boy, only if what your comment implies really was the truth. The Su-39 in game is pretty much a copy of the Su-25T when it should have much more stuff than it does, like a ground radar or the Khod FLIR. And the worst is that Gaijin knows about this missing stuff and they just leave it there.

[@aiedenoldstien9751]

@@noobhue1997 Are a lot of Gajin's big money spenders complaining about it? Then it doesn't matter to them.

[@lector-dogmatixsicarii1537]

>It's time for new American light tank after having existence ignored for years >look inside >over tiered nerf sloppa with a premium sticker for brand milking T37 bros: "I get to be tech tree, right?"

[@Me_when650]

war thunder stream: I am sure a certain context creator will be happy with this release. spookstone after 5 days: do not buy it (with a thubnail saying useless and using the gambling meme as an opening) fucking hilarious

[@MegaJani]

Plot twist: It was Loner (the using BMP-3/BMD-4 as artillery guy)

[@CheezeSpartan]

Gaijin rolls worst RDF/LT ever, asked to not throw bug reports in the papershredder

[@dragonoflocniroth]

And yet Gaijin still thinks its fair to let the 2S38 exsist, with a third the reload time, massive ammo upgrade, and at a full br bracket lower. Yah, sure that makes sense

[@pebzi-]

1.3 brs lower, with better thermals and armor

[@FlamieDoc]

And they refuse to up br it cuz most 2S38 players are >lvl10 and got their first premium, so it's stats show up as extremely bad and gaijin looks at them and says it's ok in that br like they would rather cater to the 1 month pick up and dump players than players that have been playing for years ffs

[@MrTeddy12397]

russia suffers though

[@JeyKalda]

@@MrTeddy12397 It does IRL, but it definitely doesn't in WT

[@coardten79fh46]

Don’t forget that the 2S38 can *still* fire all of its ammo at once without “overheating” despite the game saying it did overheat.

[@lonegaming8591]

Gaijin: Does everything to ensure that the american line is neutered to remain "balanced" Also Gaijin: Does mental gymnastics to ensure that russian ground has as many advantages as it possibly can by accepting any information regardless of source

[@ratte6090]

clear as goddamn day, lads and ladies. at least with wot it's *multiple nations'* high tier premiums fucking you over, instead of... y'know

[@imatank-l2n]

The fact that gajin thinks the military is wrong about their own tank is hilarious

[@TheTeehee11111]

Not only the army, but its own creator😂

[@Skibidy_rizzler_]

The snail knows allways better

[@Mean_Beans_]

finally, the expert can give his take on this situation

[@experiencecookie]

"giving it a faster reload rate would be busted" Meanwhile the 2S38

[@Keyboard_Thoughts]

well it is busted, but busted for the right nation

[@b_ananaJelly]

Always remember that Russian bias exists

[@pinkyfull]

The developer May be based in Hungary but the Dev lead IS Russian.

[@R4FSAN]

Bro the 2s38 got nerfed so many times and it's still somehow busted? IRL some variants of the 2s38 have Ataka ATGM or use the BMD4 hull, and gaijin added literally the worst variant possible 💀 (There's also the T14 Armata with a 2s38 cannon so...)

[@AlRizz187]

​@@R4FSANdont worry they will come as event vehucles or premium vehicles for insane prices so only a select few people can get it.

[@rudatkatzn9171]

Lest we forget gaijin denying the report on the Stinger which didnt pull enough Gs, with their only source against it being "this russian missile looks similar and cant do that"

[@sniffer123-z1o]

kind of related since this is related to the forums i hate trickzzter or whatever his name is

[@Skull-dw3kn]

I reported in February 2016 that the APHE Ammunition of the Panzer IV variants with the long barrels where wrong by over 25 mm, backing it up with official documents by the Wehrmacht from 1942. It took them nearly 4 years to actually fix it, and I was even told that "the documents could've been classified" 💀

[@migleinos]

@Skull-dw3kn "classified" MY BROTHER IN CHRIST WW2 WAS ALMOST A CENTURY AGO

[@Nemesis_0311]

@@sniffer123-z1o same moderator that denied primary source evidence that showed every Abrams since the m1a1 HA had added DU inserts in the Hull im sure its the same mod that denied spookston's sources.

[@ludovitbradovka5208]

@@migleinos try telling that to gaijin

[@mimicnutria18]

Gajin trying not to cope that tanks made in the 70s would outperform their new stuff challange:impossible

[@RedFox04190]

Completely agree with Spookston. They just don’t care anymore, they just want the money. To reject or not even acknowledge primary sources from players genuinely trying to make the game better for everyone boggles my mind.

[@Shyrunder]

Let's be real, they don't care since fucking forever

[@Kenbak-1]

With the blatant ahistorical inaccuracies in relation to their recent additions (looking at this and the Sholef in particular), Gaijin might as well add back the Coelian and Tiger II 105.

[@barrag3463]

Reminder that they never fully removed them.

[@Archivial]

also reminder that Coelian did exist as a wooden mockup and the Tiger II 105 is more of a blueprint, making them more legit than whatever Gaijin pulled out from its arse on creating/implementing/balancing their current vehicles.

[@joestewart3788]

Shit leta pull a wargaming and add an is-2 with 2 122's and maybe even the anti air variant of the maus

[@theporschetiger]

The Coelian is more historically accurate than the Ostwind II, and they're adding a premium Ostwind II this update

[@SantaClaus-kk8zr]

@@barrag3463 Most useless comment in this thread.

[@wolfsburgjetta2010]

I love how the devs are like "Look the tank spookston wanted and we made it finally" Then spook turns around and completely shits on WT devs. This is why I'm subbed

[@PorterDeason]

I wish they added the one with missiles

[@frankbradley4487]

That would’ve been saucy AF mane!

[@user-jw8jn7lh8c]

year 6 of waiting for the R3 missile variant

[@k1tsun386]

Funnily enough MTC4 has that conversion for the HSTV-L

[@DewaKrishna_]

​@@k1tsun386 Even better is how MTC4 has the upgraded dart ammo as well

[@anotherrandomtexan25]

So they can fuck that up too?

[@hc4284]

Gaijin: HSTV-L with 70 rpm is too op. Also Gaijin: Hear me out, 2S38

[@Silkroad000]

I thought war thunder was for REALISM. Gaijin just flat out refusing to make it realistic is wild

[@o-hogameplay185]

it never was and never will

[@curtsauce3947]

@@o-hogameplay185*its about realism when it helps russia, it's not about realism when it doesn't help russia*

[@R4FSAN]

@@curtsauce3947 It's about realism when it helps USA air tree, it's not about realism when it doesn't help USA air tree

[@trannkhaiminh9997]

It has never been about realism.

[@buscadiamantes1232]

@@trannkhaiminh9997 "In War Thunder, aircraft, attack helicopters, ground forces and naval vessels collaborate in realistic competitive battles. " "Over 2,500 highly detailed aircraft, helicopters, ground vehicles, warships and other combat vehicles crafted carefully from historical documents and surviving sources." This is from WT's "about the game" page btw, it was for realism lmaooo

[@rexcarbonrh]

Spookston, in my opinion you are never annoying if you love the RDF/LT (which it seems you do) just talk about it, it's not annoying. In my opinion the 2S38 is better than the RDF/LT and maybe even the HSTVL. Appenrently they just hate US light tanks. Speak your Opinion, we love you!

[@o-hogameplay185]

the 2S38 is not better than the HSTV-L. can't say anything about the RDF yet

[@notxinu]

sadly it is ​@@o-hogameplay185

[@INeatFreak]

Not just light tanks, Gaijin hates all US vehicles. They've artificially nerfed Abrams too with recent Hydraulic Pump addition which is misplaced and does not behave as it should. Both Heli and SPAAs are below average, not even CAS is best anymore, Su-34 singlehandedly curved the winrates for Russia to 70%

[@Just_A_Random_Desk]

@@o-hogameplay185 cope weirdo

[@thelazygamer1370]

Agreed I’d love to see content creators like spookston get on gaijens ass a lil more for the shit they do wrong

[@jspene]

12:06 People aren’t exactly happy about the BMD-4M, either. A thread on the forum got about 1000 votes to make it a TT vehicle (and still have the premium, like they did with the JA37Di) but Gaijin just ignored it.

[@oliverpasztor788]

Especially infuriating since they already locked the BMD-4 behind a paywall and profited greatly from it. BTW I have it and it's a great tank, but I was looking forward to research a TT variant as well. Also the TT version of premium vehicles should always be a straight upgrade or at the very least on par with them in terms of performance compared to premiums instead of the opposite.

[@prime2750]

I'm pretty sure there won't be TT variant soon Maybe there will be but it will happen after bmd will get nerfed

[@guvyygvuhh298]

Every single vehicle added to the soviet ground tree this year was AA. The 7.3 and 9.3 shilka and osa, rest were all premiums. All aa for the biggest ground tree in the game that frankly doesnt rly need aa rly pissed ppl off, myself included

[@weebsarecringe2102]

They literally said it will follow in Q1 2025

[@GarlicKnot5]

My spookston senses were tingling

[@Cyberboi]

the devs are so unbelievably hypocritical yet ignorant, I got dismissed for citing 6 sources (including one directly from BAC) for a Canberra Mk.6 fix years ago and they told me it wasn't enough sources despite 5 being the minimum required for consideration at the time

[@mi33ingname]

12:36 from what ive heard they balance vehicles around the average stats of players playing the vehicle (AKA average K/D/A, SL/RP gain and so on when using said vehicle), so its most likely that HSTV-L is used bv better players since it punishes worse players by a lot and that influences the average stat of the vehicle, leaving it in this limbo of being too weak but not getting changed

[@FatherGrigori]

It's official. Gaijin hates us

[@Mr.PerfectCell-M]

Your just now seeing that?

[@ComfortsSpecter]

Ancient news

[@MrXdeathkidreaperx]

Correction: Gaijin hates the United States

[@FatherGrigori]

@Mr.PerfectCell-M nah they just made it official with this

[@connivingkhajiit]

always have

[@aldousfoxly]

I wish Gaijin would just say "we don't want to do this because it goes against how we want to balance the game" rather than try to mental gymnastic sources provided to them. Doesn't do anything besides generate bad will when people engage in the system the proper way and they don't give any reasonable explanation for ignoring it

[@INeatFreak]

Translation for "how we want to balance the game" - USA can't have anything competitive in Ground top tier and we will nerf it and add more Premiums until winrates hit rock bottom

[@EvenMoreCheese]

Usa ground isn't that bad, especially if you use it's cas it's not fair

[@GeraltofRivia22]

They're so adamant on "adhering to the sources" but have no problems making changes solely for balancing reasons when they feel like it. Traction is by far the most egregious example. They nerfed traction into the ground because they couldn't fix their shitty map design.

[@michaelgalloway1359]

@@EvenMoreCheese it kinda is given they refuse to give us spall liners and darts still don't shatter properly after all this time making the UFP of the Abrams absolutely worthless compared to every other nations vehicles. I have more fun in my type 90 just because it reloads faster, doesn't need an ace crew, and oddly enough the armor actually seems to work on it, at least compared to any Abrams I've ever had the displeasure of using. And needing to rely on air power isn't a great feeling when I want to play ground battles.

[@Robert-vr5uy]

Because that would be a lie even they couldn't defend. Its nerfed because its not Russian. and they probably want an idiot to leak info on the round that can pen their tanks that they still have in service.

[@jacksonhiler3446]

Spookston yap videos are some of my favorite style of videos on youtube ngl

[@Gary_The_Metro]

Sorry just so I understand correctly, Gaijin is saying they won't increase the reload rate of the RDF/LT because of "balance"... while the 2s38 will be at a lower battle rating, has comparable survivability, arguably a better gun, and a higher fire-rate.

[@Captain00Chaos]

Welcome to War Thunder

[@deepbludreams]

And thr 2S38 has literally no official sources or documentation, they just took verbal spec sheets as truth. Remember this is a prototype one off and russian arms industry lies out it's teeth

[@Skibidy_rizzler_]

Bias thunder

[@buscadiamantes1232]

Not "arguably a better gun", it's straight up an upgrade over the 75mm. Not to mention the HSTVL didn't have HE until this year I think? Like they're pretty incompetent when it comes to built, tested, well documented AMERICAN vehicles. But you show them the 2S38 which might as well be non existent and it gets all of it's quirks n stuff day 1

[@clownfiesta8840]

Yes but here’s the thing. It’s Russian

[@zaccochran5975]

I love how any argument against gaijin gets shot down. You bring evidence that it exists they just say nah I'ma do my own thing.

[@allicopterowo]

The gimped reload is really just so sad

[@EnterpriseM22]

They love doing the reload thing to American battleships, so many sources state that the 14 inch gun could reach 2RPM yet they have an aced reload of 1.5RPM because the initial reports stated the combat average reload. They take the max theoretical reload for all other ships, e.g the mutsu and amagi which can reach ABOVE 2RPM while having 16 inch guns, but American battleships, which already have bad armor and speed, and smaller guns, are just gimped because. I seriously hope nobody is getting their hopes up about Iowa being added. They’re going to gimp it somehow.

[@firesoldier343]

I can already see the shitstorm they will cause when they inevitably gimp the Iowa.

[@curtsauce3947]

Damn, people actually play naval?

[@Josh10Force]

​@@firesoldier343They'll make the Iowa have the least accurate guns in that mode, you won't even be able to hit islands point-blank.

[@wooptydo6241]

I think back in the day us tanks all had gimped reloads because they used the slowest reload rate (minimum loader requirement from the furthest/most out of the way ammo) as the aced reload rate

[@MyCompleteCollectionofWarthund]

@@curtsauce3947 Naval is surprisingly good for grinding SL, other than that, I find it boring and wouldnt grind it. However I did get the HMS Renown (7.0 or top tier british battleship) from the SL crates during travel suitcase (Other thing I got was Russian imported P63-A5)

[@radustefan8945]

rdflt content before the actual update is crazy

[@fanepeli3629]

Chomik

[@whi5ky783]

I completely understand your frustration SpooksMan, but at this point is it really a surprise? Leaving aside the memes, can we really say that Gaijin doesn't have Russian Bias? Again! 2S38 is 10.3 same as BMP-2M, let's not forget about the KA-50, etc etc. Keep up the good work, love your videos.

[@colepreston4872]

When you talking about balance, Gaijin chose realistic When you talking about realistic, Gaijin chose balance Games made by Russia (and other former Soviet countries) always help me understand why the Soviet Union disintegrated

[@panther-nk2hn]

Gaijin screwing over anything and everything about new vehicle to avoid giving the US a decent goddamn Light Tank? Must be a damn Tuesday. Which is weird, I could've sworn I went to church this morning.

[@ToastedWaffles_]

not to mention the xm8 should have been a tech tree tank since it was a taints hair away from adoption.

[@johannbezuidenhout2976]

How many US light tanks have been wasted as premiums and event rewards now. :(

[@thatonelocalauthority2809]

If you think gaijin treats the US bad you are out of your mind. Look at how they treat the UK, Japan and Israel by comparison.

[@ToastedWaffles_]

@@johannbezuidenhout2976 i already know japan is gunna get the stingray 1&2 yet here the US is without a true light tank.

[@johannbezuidenhout2976]

@@thatonelocalauthority2809 They treat everything that is not from Russia like shit you pleb, making a point about us light tanks does not negate everything else they do. Multiple things can be true at once not everything is a zero sum game.

[@Stridsvagn-PanzerKommandant]

Players: "We have a source to fix X vehicle! please do read it and fix ASAP, it's also straight from the military/company" Gaijin: "What's that? a western source? one our team magically didn't find? HA! pure misinformation!"

[@resliaamayrilisys4617]

Even was accepted Theres no fix like JDS Murasame

[@casualspawnpeeking3680]

Literally why the stingers aren't buffed

[@shingoblin4218]

Video (8) of asking spookston to do a randomized challenge. Essentially a wheel decides almost everything. List of wheels: -A wheel that decides the nation. -a wheel that decides how many vehicles (1-3). -A wheel that decides the BR. (Maybe like a 1-2 br leniency) -A wheel that decides what vehicles (air or ground). Either reroll before every match or just do it once, your choice. (If you would like me to make the wheels to save you the suffering of making them I would gladly do that.)

[@Zenitchik_130]

In a same time 2S38 has stats literally as wikipedia and from what UVZ said, yet literal military docks aren't good enough

[@Daedric1260]

Genuinely cannot believe they thought that you'd approve of this to the point of name dropping you, I seen that and immediately knew this video would come

[@jaydenblain3599]

its so dissapointing that they can add classified vehicles and just guess to their stats, but when sources are provided its "clearly a marketing lie". Or the m1128 not being fixed with a source from the ags. or using engagement time which is clearly not reload time. Gaijin is such a disspointment.

[@benvanzon3234]

Initially, I was actualy very hyped to see that they were going to add the vehicle, and was hoping that it'd be more accurate than their 'version' of the HSTV-L. But now that you've laid out what you've been trying to get fixed with numerous reputable sources, and Gaijin clearly not caring AT ALL, I don't even think that I'll be spending any money on this game anymore. They've been guilty of cash grabs in the past, but their greed has been growing over the last couple of years with the climbing playercount. But I cannot, under any circumstance, try to support such a business model, knowing that I'd have to spend a triple A game's worth on a vehicle that isn't even historically accurate, nor within respectable levels of 'accurateness.' So, I really understand the rant, especially given that it's one of your favourite vehicles and want it to be represented accurately in-game. Long story short, Gaijin greedy, I'm kinda done.

[@naamadossantossilva4736]

It is not just greed.Greed would have them model the RDF-LT correctly to get all money.This is russian nationalism and butthurt.

[@fastestfail2645]

100% in tried of people acting like Russian bias doesn't exist. ​@@naamadossantossilva4736

[@Puppy_kicker74]

​@naamadossantossilva4736 when will people stop calling Gaijin Russian when it's actually Hungarian lol 🤦‍♂️😭

[@Goose6161]

@@Puppy_kicker74they started in Russia and were founded by Russians, they moved thier hq to Hungary most likely because of taxes and sanctions

[@Supercohboy]

Welcome to the club. I love War Thunder as a concept, but the company ruined it after rug-pulling the early adopters and consistently making the grind worse year over year, when you'd expect them to do the opposite so that people can unlock more stuff/retain player interest....

[@ColiasPalaeno]

Knowing that spooks is a midwesterner, that tone of voice may sound not very angry, but you just know, he is beyond mad inside, He is just straight up going nuclear inside.

[@jaypyro3543]

100%. That is the tone of a midwestern man that has decided to stop giving f***s about the bulls*** he’s dealing with. -Source: A Wisconsinite

[@LexYeen]

this man is so infuriated he won't tell the snail's employees to have a nice day this guy's so mad he wants to do chores angrily brother's so bent out of shape he's gonna build a table explicitly to flip it over

[@Lynks-li4lf]

1:12 Gaijin doesn't want to have another vehicle that can almost fire at the same speed and rate as the Russian 2S38. its all right there.

[@ragnarokstravius2074]

13:17, If Renal Failure didn't kill Spooks, a Gaijin induced stroke will.

[@Alex21610]

Also how people defend the current HSTV-Ls br is baffling to me. I had an argument with someone over requesting the HSTV-L to be kept at 11.3 in ground RB in the most recent BR changes, only to find out that they have only ever played arcade, and never played above 7.7... They also proceeded to mention that it would be completely unfair for the 2S38 to ever face the HSTV-L in both their current states... I simply do not understand some people, this person had never played nor faced either of these tanks, yet was vehemently attempting to argue their point. PS love the vidoes as per usual :)

[@INeatFreak]

WT Forums is a circus, that's why I always check stats before arguing with someone.

[@Alex21610]

@@INeatFreak Even worse, it was in a youtube comment section. I kept asking for his ingame name as I gave him mine, because I just didn't believe/agree with any of their points. I ended up finding it through their youtube channel, turns out they were a very competant arcade player who spent tens of thousands of matches in low tier shermans. Nothing wrong with that, but they should know better than to comment on topics of which they have 0 experience. They also mentioned the A10C was fine where it was before its battle rating increase...again they had never played air realistic, nor participated in any jet combat.

[@theredrisen9520]

I feel gaijin nerfed this vehicle specifically to spite Spookston.

[@jaydendavidson8950]

I love war thunder but a game thats meant to be based on some of the most historically accurate vechicles and constantly being wrong to the point where TOP SECRET information has to get leaked to get a fix. Yet things that are very very veryyy public knowledge is simple wrong at least 80% of the time, is absolutle bananas

[@alexpayne2662]

IS6 irl averaged 20 KmPH on the test track at the factory and yet in game it does twice that and then some.

[@hitmanslayer3003]

Well it’s in the Russian tech tree so it can’t be worse than any competing nation. 😂

[@jw1343]

7:03 No, Spook. It's not rushed. It's purposefully castrated because if it were any good, their precious T-series would actually have in game competition from the US, and we can't have that, now can we?

[@o-hogameplay185]

the US tanks are already better. just because the average US top tier main is worse than the worst germany main with the Tiger, does not mean the tanks are bad

[@Lateraldamage]

@@o-hogameplay185 There is absolutely no excuse for ignoring real primary sources to bring a vehicle up to its real world functionality.

[@jw1343]

@o-hogameplay185 yeah. That's why gaijin actively ignores real sources like accurate fire rate from the horses mouth in exchange for shit that matches its preconceived beliefs. Confirmation bias, if you will.

[@o-hogameplay185]

@@jw1343 reload rates are a balancing factor. that's it. you could also say, "hey, gaijin just ignored this real video where a Leo 2 loader reloads in 2.5s and they did not give the Leo 2 that reload! BIAS4!4!4!"

[@jw1343]

@o-hogameplay185 saying reload rates is the only balancing factor is an utterly braindead response. Reload rate, pen, ammo count, maneuverability, and ability to engage first (ie, Gen 2-3 thermals, smoke, LRF, etc) all play into it. And when a vehicle has laughable of all, while it's "equivalent" is absolutely busted- there's no leg to stand on here in defense of the quite obvious anti-us sentiment the devs have.

[@frankbradley4487]

Despite all the nerfs of the RDF/LT on the dev server my biggest concern about buying it is its lack of smoke launchers.

[@eihcra_]

YES! A Spookston Gaijin rant!

[@Coldplay4Life]

Ur getting touched

[@ima_lemon2918]

I love the layout of this video, most other KZbinrs do fine describing why you should or shouldn’t buy premiums but this was actually informative and interesting. Thanks!

[@sola7078]

From a game balance perspective it doesn't make a shred of sense for a sane dev to want to have 2 copies of the same tank, especially when they're different in reality. "Gaijin ruski bias" isn't just a meme and I really think they just don't want their fee fees hurt by letting another nation have something similar and closer to the 2S38 level.

[@Ghent_Halcyon]

7:05 Rushed you say?! This is blatant lack of care for US ground vehicles again!

[@M4m1de]

Funny how the 2S38 mostly outperforms the Otomatic and the HSTV-L while being at 10.3

[@o-hogameplay185]

it does not

[@Infinite-INF]

​@@o-hogameplay185 You are telling me a plane with 1/3rd of the reload, much more ammo, with 120+ ready rack, APHE if you want it, and trust me it can be very useful at times, with gen 3 thermals vs hstvls gen 1, and with better teams At 10.3 vs 11.7 Are you missing a brain cell or do i have to remind you how broken the 2s38 is.

[@INeatFreak]

It's Russian, so it's allowed.

[@エンギ-c3y]

@@o-hogameplay185 it does, while the OTOMATIC and the HSTV-L (and the RDF/LT) have slightly more on-paper penetration (311mm and 276mm with their respectful APFSDS rounds) over the 2S38 (225mm APFSDS), The OTOMATIC can carry 90 rounds with a 29 round ready rack, The HSTV-L has 26 rounds available (thankfully without a ready rack), and the 2S38 has 148 rounds with no ready rack, apart from that, as Spookston mentioned, APHE is very potent at 10.3, especially in full downtiers. The OTOMATIC has the 0.5 second reload rate, on par with the 2S38, but the HSTV-L suffers for 1.5 seconds, and keep in mind the OTOMATIC is 11.3, the HSTV-L is 11.7, and our dear boy, the 2S38 is 10.3

[@Just_A_Random_Desk]

@@o-hogameplay185 you're just a bad player.

[@oddforoddssake3751]

Good to see this video is a showcase of Gaijin’s hypocrisy coming home to roost.

[@Makaron13]

the worst thing is the 2s38 is still somehow at 10.3

[@o-hogameplay185]

because it is where it belongs

[@nicogonzalez2466]

@@o-hogameplay185no it doesn’t lmao

[@canadianpigeon3713]

@@o-hogameplay185 🤡

[@INeatFreak]

​@@nicogonzalez2466thb after nerfs it's not quite good, the depression and survivability just isn't there. I would rather wish Gaijin moved that thing up to 11.7 but fix the fuel tanks exploding 90% of the time and actually absorb all hits like it did pre nerf.

[@o-hogameplay185]

@@nicogonzalez2466 it is. it's not very fast, has bad survivability, not the best gun, no gun dep

[@tangohotel2599]

Both the RDF/LT and PzH2000 having their reloads wrong doesn’t surprise me as much as it should. The PzH2000 should be around 4-4.5 seconds of reload, as one of its biggest selling points is that 3 round burst in 9 seconds, allowing for rapid fire and rapid relocation, but alas, Gaijin be gaijin

[@ratte6090]

If it's not Russian, it's not allowed to be accurate...

[@DustyBustty]

@@ratte6090except all the Russian top tier planes are horribly inaccurate

[@phaeronseherekh1754]

@@DustyBustty the air balancing overall is at best bizarre, bombers are seemingly placed just for a sequential progression with bombers that are nearly identical (if you are lucky a whopping 10 horsepower difference) being a full BR apart being an example.

[@ratte6090]

@@DustyBustty for some reason they don't give a flying (haha pun) fuck abt their planes, but if it's on treads it's God's gift to armored warfare what fucking purgatory is this

[@kaih7647]

Considering how inconsistent War Thunder is, it's astonishing how consistent Gaijin is about denying accurate implementations of most western systems no matter the number of sources, while also choosing to use the most optimistic numbers for russian vehicles. I fully expect the T14 within the next 3 updates, featuring every paper performance statistic (and then some)

[@Derubicon]

Remember with the Yak-141 they just said "war thunder is a game about what could be possible" when its IRST didn't physically fit the internal volume. By that logic surely the mere existence of a better round from the same program should be enough grounds for the HSTVL to at least get that, same with the reload rate really.

[@adhx7506]

Im just so tired of russia getting EVERY SINGLE minor variant or prototype as a techtree vehicle just to bolster their lineups where the US or Germany get jackshit in terms of functionality. The 2S38 is just the cherry on top with shit like the RDF/LT or the Puma VJTF being 11.7 while it sits comfy at 10.3 while being 10x better.

[@ratte6090]

gaijiin is co- sorry, a "Russian Flavored" games company, pal... it's to be expected.

[@skyrimn00b98]

​@@ratte6090 It's worse than that. Their community manager is literally a Kremlin plant.

[@o-hogameplay185]

dude what did you smoke? where can i buy it?

[@SillyBrigade]

I wish they gave the African TTD the 120mm variant that was designed

[@wapniak666]

>while it sits comfy at 10.3 while being 10x better. But thats not true? 2S38 is one of the worst performing vehicles around that BR for russia

[@andrewmacias-brown1818]

Completely agree with you, this is a super sorry ass excuse of an update. They are really trying to just milk peoples money and then copy paste and act like it’s brand new stuff!

[@Galanoth91]

I honestly have similar issues with the PUMA. It’s round should have 20mm more pen than it currently does. Yet it sits at the same BR as the 2S38. What is so terrifying about giving a mediocre IFV 20mm more pen? No idea. Gaijin is very intelligent.

[@saucebosspl]

14 minutes of Spookston flying off the handle with recipes in his hand. It's so good to have you back!

[@dabu55ify]

Mike: I think a certain youtuber will like this vehicle (speak with german accent) Spookston: *NUH UH*

[@Jack-r3f8z]

“Historically accurate “

[@willsaygoodbye]

i very much agree with you, and how disappointing and frustrating they are. it'd be made better if their behaviors were followed or justified by them with actual communication, such as: "here are the stats we provide for the hstvl which is a similar vehicle, albeit a different vehicle in reality; this is why we balanced and chose the reload speed we did" instead of being like: "nope we dont think it should have that ok bye" with some sources and then with others asking for more reliable or primary sources. they ask for these sources, then when provided with some, they make excuses as to why they dont want to follow them, and with no proof or evidence with their claims such as "our stats say this so thats it"

[@mlgrocket]

"the RDF sucks" people that have never played the HSTV-L: but it has 60 rounds oh right, i am so glad the BVM and T-90M sides can now eat 60 rounds instead of 26 also, we know who rejected the report, it was 100% trickzzter, i guarantee it. he's absolutely the reason they decided to hide who's who in the forums.

[@b0bcat210]

I genuinely enjoyed the rant and hope to see more soon because its only a matter of time before Gaijin roll out another $60 premium that they ctrl+C ctrl+V with a decal

[@idk-wt7wm]

yeah im fed up with gajins constant bullshit bug reports "marketing lie" my ass, whats the point in having the bug reports if there just gonna reject the ones that are right 99% of the time and make up some lie out of their ass saying how its not true

[@gabrielsistonamoca6963]

meanwhile the fucking 2S38 sits at 10.3

[@o-hogameplay185]

because it is where it belongs

[@curtsauce3947]

@@o-hogameplay185why are you defending the 2s38 so much? I own it too, but I understand that it doesn't belong at 10.3.

[@Josh10Force]

​@@curtsauce3947I have a 2s38 as well, you can put it literally anywhere in top tier and it WILL do well. It is that good BR changes literally can't affect it negatively, it dies easily no matter what but it's gun can still pen and disable anything it faces at top tier.

[@nattly6340]

@@curtsauce3947 because they are a bad player who thinks that the reason they get shat on in it is because of the tank

[@Samsung-1.9Cu.Ft.Microwave]

​@@curtsauce3947he's defending it because he bought it lol

[@usssimshullnumberdd-4095]

RIP US top tier teams. Expected Gaijin wouldn't be dumb enough to add another top tier US vehicle after the catastrophe that the Click-Bait was, but then again, its Gaijin, so you can't really expect anything sensible from them

[@imreallytired1271]

Imagine how cool a tech tree version could have been with 2 different module upgrades: 1st module gives you appliqué armor which gives you more survivability. 2nd module gives you dual stinger pods which allows you to be more multipurpose, converting you into a Cat/LCV (I know it's more complex than that, but they could also just give us a tech tree Cat/LCV) 3rd way would be having neither, saving the most weight and being the lowest profile of all of them. They could have placed it in the tech tree as a 12.0 immediately after the HSTV-L or foldered it with the HSTV-L. Apparently the Russians are the only ones allowed to get fun tanks that rely off of imaginary figures, but Americans have to have the worst possible version of every tank that have very public documentation for their stats. I love prototype tanks, especially from the US, but my own HSTV-L and AGS usually go unplayed because they're just massively nerfed for no reason and can be so incredibly unfun to play between weak performance and terrible Clickbait/AIM/Wolfpack teams. Extremely disappointing of them to not only sell this bitch ass version of one of my favorite protoype tanks as a premium, but also to literally name drop you as if you were supposed to encourage sales in a "Spookston approved" kinda way.

[@archpenn7842]

"We interviewed this crack addict we found loitering near the studio, he brought good points about this upcoming vehicle we're about to add"

[@RussianRainbow]

It took me 3 years just to get the Type 93 to have the correct missile and velocity, these devs DO NOT care unless it fits their narrative.

[@sampackman69]

And even then they somehow fuck up the heat seeking on the missile lmao

[@FalconX_Productions]

I'm still mad about the HSTVL situation, but what can you do in the end? Also IT-1 is still waiting, great video as always

[@drangusbadger1976]

Angery dog barks at snail with facts and knowledge

[@thedungeondelver]

Spookston, Gaijin will never give western vehicles a fair shake. Period. You could drop every classified and unclassified document for this thing on their actual desks and they'd ignore it.

[@MetalicFork]

Gajin is so hypocritical about saying a faster reload rate is unfair as the buffed the 2s38 into firing all its ammo without overheating because it gained modules

[@Landi102]

Attempt 55 of getting Spookston to play the leopard 1

[@SaltySaiyan98]

Gaijin ignoring sources to artificially decrease the effectiveness of American vehicles? Shocking. Are we really surprised anymore? This is the same company that took a youtube video as a source for spall liners being on the T-90M.

[@o-hogameplay185]

what?

[@PhoenixOfArcadia]

Or refusing to give Stingers and Mistrals their correct performance because "Ilga's can't do the same so we don't believe it".

[@commiedoggo8367]

considering they're a company originally from russia you can kinda see why they pick and choose these things

[@curtsauce3947]

@@commiedoggo8367people will call you special needs if you claim there is any bias tho

[@Kwisss]

As much as I agree with you, this is misinformation. The T-90M bug report spall liners was accepted initially but later rejected for being a video.

[@N.Eismann]

Gaijin is run by politicians at this point

[@skyrimn00b98]

The community manager is literally a Kremlin plant. Look it up

[@TheTeehee11111]

By Putin himself 😂

[@exhausting_thoughts]

Even if it's not necessarily for the community and moreso of a personal rant of how they mistreated the vehicle, thank you for speaking up. Gaijin has dismissed any roadmap for 2025, and the RDF/LT situation is the kind of systematic bs i tried to point about a few days ago. It's time to speak up, as they're gradually going back to their pre-2023 behaviors.

[@tristandaries1129]

Gonna be real, I think some Gaijin devs actually don’t know much about combat vehicles, like anyone who knows anything would accept that the Stryker and AGS would have the same reload rate, but to someone who doesn’t know about mechanised combat, I could see how they would assume the reload rates would be different

[@madghost4286]

Gaijin isn't beating russian bias allegations with this one.

[@TheTeehee11111]

😂😂😂

[@flowking6793]

I really wish gaijin would not pick and choose what they implement. It oftentimes feels like for NATO vehicles even official statements by manufacturers will be dismissed but for other vehicles the source is "trust me bro."

[@vx.556]

“A fast fire rate would be op” The strf9040 at a way lower br:

[@GuardianOne24]

Yknow. Ive played warthunder for many years. started back in 2018 and have logged almost 4k hours in it. For the first time, I uninstalled the game back in September just because I was so fed up with the games balancing, management, inconsistency, and money hungry tactics. Unfortunately, I have been really itching to get back into it, telling myself, "maybe ill just stick to lower tiers" or "ill just focus on one nation at a time instead of spreading myself out like I used to." Then I see videos like this. Thank you spookston. You've kept me from reentering that cesspool of a game for probably a few more months. Keep shedding true light on the game, how its being managed and all the inaccuracies Gaijin implements for *"Balance"* .

[@cameronolney7705]

Gaijin just doesn't want to give America a competitor to the 2S38.

[@thewhitehousevietsubarchiv2625]

US tanks: Literally all credible sources you could find from the Pentagon and are open sources. Gaijin: nuh uh that’s not enough. Russian tanks: Some random Gaijin employee just believe that it would be so cool to add a rail gun and a spaceship engine on a tank. Gaijin: that’s some credibility right there.

[@ratte6090]

so... painful...

[@johnclement189]

They hate US, they even rejected to add DU armor on the sepv2

[@spkirchman]

With everything that Gaijin is doing with bug reports, balancing, new vehicles, premiums/squad vehicles, maps, and sub trees, it's just worth the effort it takes to play this game if the devs just keep treating us like crap.

[@rmfshreder]

Gaijin applies the rules of historical policy that are convenient for the Kremlin and their PR for their military equipment.

[@nathaniel1207]

as much of a meme as it is, you are legitimately the expert on the HSTV-L and RDF-LT in this community, and while i wasnt going to buy it anyway (fuck off $80 premiums), i certainly wont ever in the future. thanks for clarifying the matter

[@BottedOperators]

I cannot exactly explain how, but there must be some internal bureaucratic thing with Gaijin that prevents them from administering these simple fixes, it's genuinely upsetting to see this happening (and it has been happening for YEARS)

[@carlitosskater89]

It's one of the guys in the forum, censoring posts about fixing/upgrading western nations. It behind with t and ends with rikzzter.