Britain Makes Worst Tank Destroyer, Asked To Leave Allies

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Spookston

Spookston

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@falfill2096
@falfill2096 2 жыл бұрын
The funny thing to point out is that this vehicle is in battlefield 5 and it’s reverse speed in that game is just as fast as it’s regular speed
@conneryee8710
@conneryee8710 2 жыл бұрын
And it has a turret
@WolfGTR
@WolfGTR 2 жыл бұрын
@@conneryee8710 no?
@bar10005
@bar10005 2 жыл бұрын
Also it doesn't have inverted controls, as they made cannon side also the driver direction.
@DarkButz
@DarkButz 2 жыл бұрын
Battlefield 5 is basically Hollywood WW2, so it doesn't surprise me.
@themedic7933
@themedic7933 2 жыл бұрын
I guess the trade off is that the hp system of bf5 means that the best place to hit someone is the engine, making it a very vulnerable target.
@lbgstzockt8493
@lbgstzockt8493 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the part where british engineers took a 30 ton heavy tank and used a lawnmower engine as the powerplant
@theoneandonlyartyom
@theoneandonlyartyom 2 жыл бұрын
tf u mean lawnmower? desktop fan engine
@Seygem
@Seygem 2 жыл бұрын
@@apefish NATO? in 1944?
@jackwilliams2673
@jackwilliams2673 2 жыл бұрын
@@Seygem Looks like someone didn't pay attention in history class, eh? XD
@theoneandonlyartyom
@theoneandonlyartyom 2 жыл бұрын
@@apefish nato was made after ww2
@86pp73
@86pp73 2 жыл бұрын
'Cause in WWII British armoured doctrine, the Valentine was an infantry tank, and thus never needed to go faster than your average soldier could. Its primary role was always to be mobile cover and fire support for troops, so armour was the priority in its design, not mobility. If the British Army needed more mobile armour, then they had a whole range of purpose-built cruiser tanks to choose from.
@F4Wildcat
@F4Wildcat 2 жыл бұрын
To understand how British anti-tank doctorine worked, TD's like achilles & Archer were ment to provide mobile anti-tank support while towed 17PDR's were set up in positions. this is completly diffrent than US & German TD doctorine. edit after toilet break= This is the reason why British classified them as SPG's. They litteraly were self propelled guns. They equipped royal artillery and anti-tank regiments wich consisted of 2x Towed 17 PDR's, one achilles/archer & 1 M10 battery. The role remained the same. Towed guns get into position, SPG's covered them.
@SpiritOfMontgomery
@SpiritOfMontgomery 2 жыл бұрын
Was going to comment this! Thank you! There is someone else who knows about this
@kirotheavenger60
@kirotheavenger60 2 жыл бұрын
Tactically speaking, this really isn't all that different to US Tank Destroyer doctrine. Tank Destroyers were about a mobile reserve to place themselves ahead of enemy armoured pushes - but they would engage from prepared positions much like an AT gun. TDs were not intended to go run&gunning across the battlefield either.
@F4Wildcat
@F4Wildcat 2 жыл бұрын
@@kirotheavenger60 Now that you mention it. The US reinforced their TD regiments with the towed m5 76mm.
@SpiritOfMontgomery
@SpiritOfMontgomery 2 жыл бұрын
@@F4Wildcat also the Archer didn’t see much/any action, that’s according to the documentation I’ve seen. It was in theatre during the Normandy campaign, 15th (Scottish) Division having a few for purposes of testing, but none saw action
@MrCubs0717
@MrCubs0717 2 жыл бұрын
@@kirotheavenger60 They were quite different what are you talking about. The US Doctrine was mobile and quick response to stop a breakthrough of bltizkrieg. British doctrine was half artillery thats why they had them with the Royal Artillery they were used as both for the brits while american SPGs were meant to be able to be mobile to move past german anti tank guns. Yes they were not intened to run and gun but they were meant to be fast and mobile to tactically move into postion. Very different types of defense
@oliverrugg3732
@oliverrugg3732 2 жыл бұрын
I remember unlocking the Archer and being seriously confused as to why it spawned facing backwards the first time I used it.
@Towermonkey-sf4md
@Towermonkey-sf4md 2 жыл бұрын
Nah on god I was so confused
@gamersunite7968
@gamersunite7968 2 жыл бұрын
As lazerpig once said, the British really tried to Wallace and Gromit their way through WWII
@kalumbailey5103
@kalumbailey5103 2 жыл бұрын
We had too man we were fighting on our own for literal years before anyone helped 😅
@Zorro9129
@Zorro9129 2 жыл бұрын
As Churchill was perpetually drunk, so is Lazerpig.
@chanchito4401
@chanchito4401 2 жыл бұрын
But it worked didn't it?
@hutchy1k94
@hutchy1k94 2 жыл бұрын
Sir! Gun's too big! Put it in sideways... Sir! There's no room for the radio! Cut a hole in the back of the turret and have it stick out the back! Sir! The engine's not powerful enough! GET FIVE CAR ENGINES AND PUT THEM TOGETHER!
@sebastianfalcon948
@sebastianfalcon948 2 жыл бұрын
Tf does that mean 🤣
@bassbatterer
@bassbatterer 2 жыл бұрын
From what I remember, it was used by the Royal Artillery as a mobile antitank gun and it was well liked by the crews who had previously had 17pdrs on carriages.
@petterteignesse5486
@petterteignesse5486 2 жыл бұрын
It was generally liked by the royal artillery, but hated by armoured units when they got them lol
@danielearl3591
@danielearl3591 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it was an SPG, not really a tank destroyer
@PhoenixOfArcadia
@PhoenixOfArcadia Жыл бұрын
@@danielearl3591It was also, with it's original designation, an Ambush Tank, in which is one of the additional reasons for the gun to be mounted backwards. As an Ambusher, the idea was to have Archers reach a position ahead of an enemy advance and wait. Once they reach tier position, they would reverse in and have the gun facing the expected enemy, and after firing off upon in countering them, they would get out of the area immediately, which with the gun mounted in reverse, the front of the actual tank would be facing away from the enemy and it would be able to accelerate at full speed rather than needing to reverse and turn.
@OddBawZ
@OddBawZ 2 жыл бұрын
I really expect to do really poorly with this thing and then it ALWAYS goes really well. It's a lot of fun to play after you've gotten a bit more experienced at the game. It's just a shame some newer players get this when they start Britain as their main nation and are completely mind f'd by how you need to drive it! 😂
@burningsinner1132
@burningsinner1132 2 жыл бұрын
Well, same deal with America and M3 Lee. Tank mops the floor with enemy, but getting there requires you to have master degree in multiturreted tanks and bachelor degree in non-turreted SPG.
@AlexFrozenB
@AlexFrozenB 2 жыл бұрын
Advice: dont be Brit main
@exceptionalanimations1508
@exceptionalanimations1508 2 жыл бұрын
Bro really said Spookston needs to git gud
@Greendile
@Greendile 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree I love the archer and play it regularly
@razen9766
@razen9766 2 жыл бұрын
The cannon is just incredible good at that BR and you can actually just disappear if needed when in a fire position
@s_c_r_i_b
@s_c_r_i_b 2 жыл бұрын
Spookston: "it's a bad tank" Also Spookston: "proceeds to get more kills in one game than i do in one day"
@filipbitala2624
@filipbitala2624 Жыл бұрын
Well its not “bad” its weird, but once you learn it its a beast
@DarrenSloan
@DarrenSloan 10 ай бұрын
It is not a tank
@l.h.r-gamer8300
@l.h.r-gamer8300 10 ай бұрын
Premiuns power my friend, premium power
@V16PER
@V16PER 10 ай бұрын
@@l.h.r-gamer8300archer ain’t premium
@V16PER
@V16PER 10 ай бұрын
@@DarrenSloanwhat is it then?
@Zorro9129
@Zorro9129 2 жыл бұрын
I really do love the odd designs you get at low BR. By mid-BR everything gets samey and loses those gimmicks and weaknesses that really differentiate vehicles. The Archer really is a lovely tank destroyer for that reason, even though its gun outshines every other aspect of it.
@Roy-tp4qq
@Roy-tp4qq 2 жыл бұрын
Post WWII soviet tanks are quite literally identical. Only difference I can find is an extra well for the post t-62 designs
@filmandfirearms
@filmandfirearms 2 жыл бұрын
@@Roy-tp4qq That's because 80% of the post war Soviet tanks in War Thunder never saw service. After the war, Russia decided they should only have one medium tank, one breakthrough tank, and an IFV, and they've kept that model to this day. It's a good economic decision, but doesn't make for a good tech tree
@arya31ful
@arya31ful 2 жыл бұрын
3.7 to 6.3 is Shermanfest
@ICCUWANSIUT
@ICCUWANSIUT Жыл бұрын
@@filmandfirearms don't really think that's how they operate now considering they still modernize T-80's and T-90's have multiple variations of IFV's/APC's, and "produce" the T-14. Not to mention the theoretical AA also pretty capable of pulling IFV duty, and other tanks like the Sprut which don't really follow breakthrough or medium tank imo.
@dankboi2278
@dankboi2278 Жыл бұрын
Nah it's more like 7,3-top tier everything starts being more or less the same, legit every top tier mbt is the same and around 7,3 every nation has either a copy of the leopard 1 or gepard lol
@magisterrleth3129
@magisterrleth3129 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. On the one hand, I can see sort of what it's for. You drive to position, you set up, you shoot stuff, and if shot back, you scoot backwards(which is actually forwards) at full speed and get out of there quickly. On the other, it really is dreadful in a video game. And they probably could have updated the drive train.
@praetor678
@praetor678 2 жыл бұрын
And actually used in that manner.
@kirotheavenger60
@kirotheavenger60 2 жыл бұрын
The reason it was backwards was to fit and balance the long gun. It wasn't especially designed for "shoot and scoot".
@builder396
@builder396 Жыл бұрын
They actually did update the drivetrain, but the only change was a different ratio on the final drives I believe, which is what results in the higher top speed either direction. Sadly no full speed set of reverse gears.
@jeffington1224
@jeffington1224 Ай бұрын
This is basically true for all British vehicles in war thunder, they were very effective irl due to our doctrines but ineffective in game because it would too realistic to be fun, for example the Lancaster is a iconic bomber but is insanely weak in warthunder this is because we preferred a night time bombing doctrine with indiscriminate bombing targets (we carpet bombed anything in sight) this meant rather than give them good defenses we would ditch defence in favour of more bombs for extra destructive power, it’s also why the bottom of Lancasters are painted black to match the night sky for stealth
@mikelong5207
@mikelong5207 2 жыл бұрын
And yet in reality it was very popular with it's crews, a low sillhouette, 17pdr gun and the ability to reverse into position, put rounds on target and then escape return fire with all your forward gears, it was in reality very good.
@kirotheavenger60
@kirotheavenger60 2 жыл бұрын
Although the M10 with 17pdr was more popular owing to the fully traversable turret. "Shoot and scoot" is somewhat exaggerated with this vehicle - that isn't why it was facing backwards.
@jimtaylor294
@jimtaylor294 2 жыл бұрын
^ Not really no. The designers of Archer knew what they were doing. They had to mount the gun this way in order to fit it into the Val's relatively small chassis (that much is true), but also knew there was potential usefulness in not having to turn round to reposition after shooting.
@kirotheavenger60
@kirotheavenger60 2 жыл бұрын
@Jim Taylor that wasn't a deliberate part of the design, it was designed backwards" only so that the gun would fit.
@rob-d7h
@rob-d7h 2 жыл бұрын
Not a lot of people realize the M901 was used the same way. You back into position, pop up the hammerhead to engage two targets, drop the hammerhead, and get the heck out of dodge. You reload somewhere else. We had a new PL who was very disturbed by not keeping your front to the enemy, and we had to explain it to him real slow-like, and even then you could tell it physically hurt him to do it that way.
@jimtaylor294
@jimtaylor294 2 жыл бұрын
^×2 False; though it figures that some random dude on youtube would claim that without an ounce of evidence, when in reality there's no way it wasn't considered during the design work... as after all those doing so had to actually sell the idea to those holding the purse strings.
@dmitryivanov5411
@dmitryivanov5411 2 жыл бұрын
The Archer is in general really fun to use once you learn to not treat it as a tank but as a mobile 17 pounder sniper rifle. You play by either finding a nice defensive spot and snipe people from it, or, if you are in arcade mode and are planning to meme on people, play Initial D and drift shot people from the flanks. That actually got me 6 kills in the thing before I got HE shelled because in arcade people generally forget to check the flanks, like the German mains at 4.0-6.0
@adamloxley2551
@adamloxley2551 2 жыл бұрын
I am compelled to remind people that the Archer isn’t a TD but merely an SPG, and it was effective and well-liked by the artillery men who used them.
@kirotheavenger60
@kirotheavenger60 2 жыл бұрын
TD is more or less just a pretentious name for SPG anyways.
@ClumsyProto
@ClumsyProto 2 жыл бұрын
It actually was used as an TD in africa, it worked amazingly well cuz it was basically a wait, hit and run tactic, just bonk a panzer IV and rush to cover
@alexey_chekhovich
@alexey_chekhovich 2 жыл бұрын
It’s basically the same thing as Russian Su-76, but with inverted internals for no particular reason.
@kirotheavenger60
@kirotheavenger60 2 жыл бұрын
@Алексей Чехович it was inverted due to weight, length, and height. If the gun had been pointed forwards it would have stuck far out the front of the tank, meaning it'd get caught on obstacles and get stuck in the ground, and would also have made the vehicle way too front heavy (these problems cropped up with the Soviet SUs, particularly the -100). The alternative would have been to mount the gun further back, placed on top of the engine block in the style of the German Marders. But here the problem would be the vehicle would be a much higher profile.
@SoulReaper1942
@SoulReaper1942 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexey_chekhovich The reason is they wanted to get a late war heavy AT gun on an existing early war infantry tank chassis without having to completely rebuild it.
@ice__cube_9107
@ice__cube_9107 2 жыл бұрын
I actually love the Archer, It's my favourite British tank in War Thunder. You figured out the best method of use part way, and that is not going -4km/h towards your enemies at all times. Instead doing 180s on them when the least expect it. other than that, get into a good sniping position then 180. if you take a hit go 'forward' to hull down and repair. My kill record is on this tank, IIRC it is >20.
@rileyfitzsimons8875
@rileyfitzsimons8875 2 жыл бұрын
Could you do a video on the British striker please? As a British main this would make me very happy
@stuartcoombes8420
@stuartcoombes8420 2 жыл бұрын
Along the same line, I'd love to see some Challenger 1 and 2 games
@hayabusa0037
@hayabusa0037 2 жыл бұрын
A fellow masochist I see. Striker is one of my favorite vehicles even if the swing fire does make me want to off myself from time to time. Can even do pretty well against helicopters
@stuartcoombes8420
@stuartcoombes8420 2 жыл бұрын
@Hayabusa003 yea the British tree is very meh, but there's some really cool stuff hidden away, not used the striker or Swingfire myself
@mikewizz1895
@mikewizz1895 2 жыл бұрын
also the g6 and rooikat
@geko_acidic
@geko_acidic Жыл бұрын
@@mikewizz1895 ah yes, the G6 my favourite SPAA in the tech tree
@bastiaanverkerk1295
@bastiaanverkerk1295 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll always remember starting out in war thunder and mainly looking at penetration values. This thing seemed perfect. Imagine my surprise when I looked at it’s butt in the hangar when I first unlocked it haha
@Valentine0304
@Valentine0304 2 жыл бұрын
This TD has a special tactic in the arcade: reverse, then swing the tank around and shoot. Gamble, but fun trick. The 17 pounder is strong in this BR ( pens everything, everywhere) but these limitations ( slow speed, reverse mount) and making it balanced for that br. 6+/10
@malakov5
@malakov5 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, this tank kind of makes sense in a real world sense. They can have a relatively static long gun but still traverse terrain by itself. It doesn’t really make sense in a fast paced team death match
@JohnyG29
@JohnyG29 2 жыл бұрын
Its not a tank, its a SPG.
@piney4562
@piney4562 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnyG29 An entirely irrelevant comment to make. Well done.
@venpirethevampire
@venpirethevampire 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnyG29 🤓
@kefkaZZZ
@kefkaZZZ 2 жыл бұрын
Lot’s of tanks do not work in a Death-Match
@CheezeSpartan
@CheezeSpartan 2 жыл бұрын
The bongs took “put it in reverse Ter” to a whole new level
@solidshot7849
@solidshot7849 2 жыл бұрын
I actually really like the Archer, at 2.7 I find the 17pdr to be a good old point and click adventure
@unlink1649
@unlink1649 2 жыл бұрын
Like everything about this tank is terrible, but the gun is like *mmmmwah chefs kiss*
@edwardking9359
@edwardking9359 Жыл бұрын
​@unlink1649 that's just the British tech tree up until like, rank 4
@desertfalcon1539
@desertfalcon1539 2 жыл бұрын
I just adore these "X makes worst Y, asked to leave Z" You're a genius Spooks, keep doing these lmao 🤣 😂
@pacocinco
@pacocinco 2 жыл бұрын
As a British main (yes, I know), I always kinda like playing the archer. It also was very painful. I always went with the "drive backwards and the just whip 'er around when you find baddies" strategy.
@CheezeSpartan
@CheezeSpartan 2 жыл бұрын
2:40 In War Thunder, even the Russian slums have anti-spall coating
@duskmarksman3129
@duskmarksman3129 2 жыл бұрын
You going French at 7:45 absolutely killed me. Love your content, as always.
@homiedaclown4381
@homiedaclown4381 2 жыл бұрын
These videos are the perfect mix of suffering, joy, gameplay and memes
@P.K.Veiller
@P.K.Veiller Жыл бұрын
3:20 that whistling got me laughing so much
@OutrunRewind
@OutrunRewind 2 жыл бұрын
7:45 "OUI!" - Spookston, 2023
@TheSamplebridge
@TheSamplebridge 2 жыл бұрын
This things only saving grace is that the gun is ridiculously powerful for the BR and everyone at that BR range seems to be completely oblivious when going peaking corners. This tank is actually pretty good on city maps where you can look down the roads perpendicular to spawn.
@randomenemy4770
@randomenemy4770 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like the Archer is a must play for new players as it literally forces you to explore other methods of play like sniping, camping and not rushing straight at the enemy, which even if you're against, you need to know how to counter, which is helped if you know how to play that way. You also actually have to think about what you're doing and plan carefully or you just instantly die. "Looks at Germany players".
@commanderkei9537
@commanderkei9537 2 жыл бұрын
With the Archer, you can have the wonderful experience of being an anti-tank gun crew in a battlefield full of *actual* tanks and strafing planes!
@samuelkiral
@samuelkiral 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Spookston, could you make a video about the ST-A3? It's a very interesting tank that not many people play
@fraservickers1257
@fraservickers1257 2 жыл бұрын
If you had played the crusader II at 2.3, you'd have a momentary softening on British tanks. 5 crew, excellent mobility, fast firing and high pen gun, endless smoke launchers- it was a dream for players who wanted to flank and even go face to face and rely on their wits and situational awareness
@plasmallied1226
@plasmallied1226 2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised how well you did in the Archer, cause I never had any luck with it. Also can you do the Mars-15? Cheers.
@mr.treefrog5789
@mr.treefrog5789 2 жыл бұрын
yeeess Mars-15
@MR.Jenkins420
@MR.Jenkins420 2 ай бұрын
5:44 I laughed the sunny delight out thru my nose 😂😂
@metodijetrajanovski2852
@metodijetrajanovski2852 2 жыл бұрын
Once I had a test. For some reason I was thinking about the archer and accidentally wrote that down. The teacher marked it right. Idk why
@tinchorb1340
@tinchorb1340 2 жыл бұрын
4:24 That happens because once the game assumes that the guy whos ammo rack has been hit will die, doesnt bother to continue the simulation of the shrapnel damaging the other parts in the tank apart from the ammo rack
@cookiecracker2
@cookiecracker2 2 жыл бұрын
I'm fairly certain in the past 2 years they lowered the british 76mm APBCs spalling. it just barley deals damage nowadays. I remember playing the concept 3 when it first came out and doing pretty good damage, now it's barley useable at all cause half your shots don't crit what they should or they don't even pen.
@Siddingsby
@Siddingsby 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Gaijin really stealth nerfed the 17 pounder into the ground. You really do have to snipe every crew member 75% of the time.
@natali_wolffe9012
@natali_wolffe9012 Жыл бұрын
British weapons can best be described as “Under no circumstances should it have ever performed as well as it did, but somehow, it did.”
@Soup_Pumpkin
@Soup_Pumpkin 2 жыл бұрын
Part 24 of asking for 76 jumbo
@highjumpstudios2384
@highjumpstudios2384 2 жыл бұрын
Didnt he already do a Jumbo video?
@asiangaming8409
@asiangaming8409 2 жыл бұрын
@@highjumpstudios2384 yesn’t
@LancashireAndYorkshire
@LancashireAndYorkshire Жыл бұрын
“Look how they massacred my boy” - The guy who designed the Valentine
@chadtheafricanbullfrog
@chadtheafricanbullfrog 2 жыл бұрын
If you want to try some weird tank fun, try playing the Type 60 SPRG. I love thing thing and its goofy marketplace camo, but it certainly is a challenge with only 10 rounds and without the increased mobility compared to the R3 T106
@Gearshoot
@Gearshoot 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t believe Pulkz suggested this. I watch both, and it is always strange to see creators that aren’t known for interacting with other creators interact with other creators. Still super sick to see and I love it, and good vid Spookston.
@timathyyy
@timathyyy 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes the reverse T O N K
@bickboose9364
@bickboose9364 2 жыл бұрын
11:50 *CAS takes skill you know.* That guy had to time his _spacebar_ pressing just right. He had like a mere 5 second window of opportunity. That's commendable.
@andrews_lego_tanks_and_more
@andrews_lego_tanks_and_more 2 жыл бұрын
The Archer is probably the most Sprocket looking tank anyone had ever made.
@kopperhed4472
@kopperhed4472 2 жыл бұрын
You laugh, but I think this was the most amusing of your videos so far. This was great!
@arbiter5853
@arbiter5853 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to see you play the AML-90. Theres a british version too. It's a prius with a 90mm heat launcher
@V1C1OUZ
@V1C1OUZ 2 жыл бұрын
Just started playing WT a couple months ago and picked the British tech tree, so everytime someone uploads War Thunder content with British and some fine tea in it I click lol, appreciate your music of choice by the way, Generals is one of my favorite Childhood games back then, brings me back memories. Archer can really be a threat with a bit of patience, It feels really good to pen the front of M4 105's and watch their turrets fly after some time of just shrugging off my solid shots with the other tanks haha, anyways Cheers for the upload! 🍻
@booze5376
@booze5376 2 жыл бұрын
I actually love the Archer! The fast reload rate and the powerful gun make it a quintessential td, and that reverse look can be an upside, you can run away often in a kind of “shoot and scoot” way
@pauld6967
@pauld6967 2 жыл бұрын
Hey now, the tactic of "get into a good spot and wait for someone to drive by" is definitely a valid one. I wasn't in an Archer but that ambush tactic is precisely how I got a perfect kill shot on the left side of a Panther D yesterday.
@dividedbyzerotx
@dividedbyzerotx 2 жыл бұрын
I actually found this thing a lot easier to use than I thought it would. It's not great but the gun at its BR is a beast.
@leomaster2841
@leomaster2841 2 жыл бұрын
Due to your comment about it in the video and the fact i don'tbelive you have played it in a video yet, the M4A3 (105) could be a very intresting video idea. it is personally one of my favorite vehicals and i would love to see you play it.
@gopnikprince8000
@gopnikprince8000 2 жыл бұрын
Gaijin needs to make a Ground only mode and change the current ground forces mode into mixed battles cause that's what it is.
@roberttauzer7042
@roberttauzer7042 Жыл бұрын
I didnt even wanna spade that vehicle but then I've forced myself and on the end I was liking it - it has VERY powerful gun for it's BR
@alientitimilk9073
@alientitimilk9073 2 жыл бұрын
Whats crazy is that they didn’t even bother flipping the drive train so the tank could at least be semi mobile
@deutsch-amerikanisch8281
@deutsch-amerikanisch8281 2 жыл бұрын
It was designed like this so they could drive to the general area they needed to be in, then reverse into the exact spot they wanted. From there, they could engage a few targets the drive away if they got in trouble. They didn't want to engineer a transmission with more reverse gears, so they designed this thing.
@Bread-kun
@Bread-kun 2 жыл бұрын
The idea was basically that it could "reverse" really fast to run away. Which I guess if the idea is to let it sit still behind some bushes for long periods and not play a mobile role at all it's. I guess not a terrible idea in theory but it's just not good. Like I can understand someone coming to that conclusion in that period, it's just wrong.
@kirotheavenger60
@kirotheavenger60 2 жыл бұрын
@Bread-kun that wasn't the deliberate intention. It was designed backwards only because the gun would be far too long and front heavy if it was mounted forwards. You can see by the fact that no other vehicles were designed "backwards" that it wasn't a deliberate doctrinal design.
@idkanymore5239
@idkanymore5239 2 жыл бұрын
truly one of the Britain Makes Worst Tank Destroyer, Asked To Leave Allies, Also keep up the good work, Spookston, love ur vids!
@WoooshProductions
@WoooshProductions 2 жыл бұрын
can you do a video on the type75 sph? its really nutty with hevt buff
@webig1805
@webig1805 2 жыл бұрын
Im not familiar with it, what was buffed on the shell?
@WoooshProductions
@WoooshProductions 2 жыл бұрын
@@webig1805 a while back its hevt wouldn't fuse properly but a few updates ago it was fixed, so now you can airburst planes and shoot over tanks to easily overpressure them its insane
@Double-Dubz
@Double-Dubz 2 күн бұрын
I play ground RB with foot pedals and a joystick, and the archer was the absolute bane of my existence, while also simultaneously being the funniest and most endearing tank ive played to date ngl
@yordobelps
@yordobelps 2 жыл бұрын
You should take out the mini Doom Slayer, the ZUT-37
@magnus7857
@magnus7857 2 жыл бұрын
When playing the archer, you need to master the art of the drift
@DrJorusUploads
@DrJorusUploads 2 жыл бұрын
You should play the Italian M41M 90/53. Weird chassis but the gun is simply a joy to shoot.
@inertjohnjunk
@inertjohnjunk Жыл бұрын
It's insane how much nostalgia whiplash I get ever time I watch a spookston video and notice the Generals soundtrack in the background.
@azertyytbytb2490
@azertyytbytb2490 2 жыл бұрын
It would be fun if you played the arl 44 the 3.7 one
@FallenAngel-rg7rr
@FallenAngel-rg7rr 2 жыл бұрын
most people assume this tank is french due to the fact that the only thing its good at is retreating
@halfagallonofboiledeggs2738
@halfagallonofboiledeggs2738 2 жыл бұрын
The brits just pre-empted the backwards IS-2 strat. Only issue, they forgot the IS-2.
@Gracefulwarrior2124
@Gracefulwarrior2124 2 жыл бұрын
The archer is one of the best tanks and I have some of my highest kill games in it. I managed to overpenetrate and kill a swedish tank destroyer, and then penetrated a Samoa or D2 and also kill it. First time I got a double kill with conventional rounds. The main reason I like it is because I can penetrate anything I look at, and it has a very fast reload rate
@Faden47
@Faden47 2 жыл бұрын
A 4.7 gun at 3.3 works wonders, even if the hull is kinda broken, had fun with this thing but its a one trick pony. Could you play the Somua 40 the french TD, its quite fun? Attempt#8
@hunlepto2239
@hunlepto2239 2 жыл бұрын
You mean 2.7. It's a 2.7 tank.
@bepolite6961
@bepolite6961 2 ай бұрын
It's not a tank. it's not supposed to fight like a tank. I get people in these games do not like ambushes and tactics, but that is what the Archer was designed for. A simple platform for a 17pdr that killed Tigers and Panthers with ease.
@irinashidou9524
@irinashidou9524 2 жыл бұрын
Valentine is a medium tank or an infantry tank by British classification Also skill issue
@Spookston
@Spookston 2 жыл бұрын
It's an infantry tank, which is analogous to a heavy tank in role and design. Cruiser tanks like the Crusader and Cromwell were closer to medium tanks. You aren't going to try and seriously argue that the Churchill is a medium tank, are you?
@heavytube7890
@heavytube7890 2 жыл бұрын
@@Spookston Fun fact: Technically the soviet T-60/70 series is a sort of infantry tank. The T-70 is alright but the T-60 is quite painful.
@burningsinner1132
@burningsinner1132 2 жыл бұрын
@@heavytube7890 T-60/70/80 were always considered light tanks. At some point they were even suggested to be punched out of tanks classification since they could be produced concurrently on automotive factories, freeing manufacturing "slots" for actual tanks. Being deployed en masse without being designated to actual tank unit added weight to this argument as well. Also, T-60 is not really proper design. Day one of Great Patriotic War resulted in massive loss of planes on their airfields (Many were mothballed, expecting their refit from machineguns to autocannons), which left the industry with big surplus of autocannons without chassis to mount it on.
@heavytube7890
@heavytube7890 2 жыл бұрын
@@burningsinner1132 On the T-60 not being a proper design - i'm afraid to say that it was. The designs started as a non-amphib T-40, first with a DSHK, and evolved from there. The idea of a surplus of autocannons seems to come out of nowhere. Also, this ties into the first part - the original idea for the T-60 was a non-amphib T-40, and a sequel to the T-26 and it's failed projects (T-46 etc). Reminder that soviet light tanks were infantry support tanks, not the western definition of a light tank, more like the french definition.
@vinhhoangkhai8329
@vinhhoangkhai8329 Жыл бұрын
3:25 my god the whisper shivered my whole spine. I really thought death was onto me
@roadhigher
@roadhigher 2 жыл бұрын
If not for the reverse speed being utter dogwater this would be far more enjoyable, 17 pounder at 2.7 is hella nasty. Also can you do a video on the IS-4M please?
@Vextonomy
@Vextonomy 2 жыл бұрын
Great video mate
@sneakysnek8416
@sneakysnek8416 2 жыл бұрын
Could you play as the M41A1 or T92?
@djdk5221
@djdk5221 2 жыл бұрын
T92 would be awesome to see
@mouser7436
@mouser7436 2 жыл бұрын
All i saw in my notification was bad british tank destroyer before i immediately thought, "yep its the archer"
@aloof_cardinal
@aloof_cardinal 2 жыл бұрын
0:08 huh...so thats why u love the french so much
@NicholasWasntHere
@NicholasWasntHere 2 жыл бұрын
I mean the speedometer describes it perfectly: Its so slow it moves forward at a negative speed
@CollinTheSav
@CollinTheSav 2 жыл бұрын
"Can I have a no-fly zone over my house?" -Spookston, 2023.
@SL0WZER0
@SL0WZER0 2 жыл бұрын
3:20 Hehehe, the sound of Death. Nice movie.
@babalonkie
@babalonkie 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to point out a few things... The Archer was designed to be a combat capable vehicle that carried the new 17lber to the front lines and it's priority was essentially spare parts... but the gun was the priority part... Hence the name "Gun Carrier" or "self-propelled anti-tank gun" due to its design, of course when you are stretched for resources in a world war a "combat capable vehicle" will actually get used in combat, the Archer however was only ever used as a mobile defensive gun when it came to actual battles by the Royal Artillery and never "assaulted" anything other than a British tank driver's dreams. I would also like to point out Britain only had one "Anti-Tank regiment" and it lasted for a couple of years as a home regiment and ceased to exist by 1943 having never seen combat... lol. It's nothing more than a novelty tank in War Thunder.
@humzaakhtar9208
@humzaakhtar9208 2 жыл бұрын
The valentine archer (valentine was an infantry tank so it would qualify as medium to heavy) was designed and fielded before the firefly, it was an attempt to have a mobile 17 pounder that could also retreat very quickly, hence why its mounted backwards (and because the gun was too heavy to mount forwards), as British tanks aren't known for reverse speed, so it could speed off "forwards" when needing to retreat. As you can see it wasn't very good and as soon as the firefly came around its uses stopped because there was a much easier platform for the 17 pounder
@RubberToeYT
@RubberToeYT 2 жыл бұрын
The constant reversing is so great
@suieisuiei9219
@suieisuiei9219 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see you play the AFT09. I've recently unlocked it and love it a lot! Love to see you play it and your game style and your option on the tank.
@Virtx0929
@Virtx0929 2 ай бұрын
The one redeeming quality of the backwards gun is the ability to run away at full speed while keeping the gun pointed at the enemy
@dragonscargames4808
@dragonscargames4808 Жыл бұрын
At 7:44, you can say you just had a Wild West Texas Shootout and won 🤣
@voidokami1427
@voidokami1427 2 жыл бұрын
The jump between tank talk to water bottle talk gave me whiplash
@deilusi
@deilusi Жыл бұрын
archer is missing 2 things to be good. (3 to be great) 1. reverse speed, any would do 4 is standstill 2. neutral steering. Real one with decent speed. 3(optional) roof (just some basic strafing/hand granade protection. as in idea its good, you have a lot of metal between crew and enemy. front place covering the crew can be buffed to infinity, literally like 30cm thick plate would fit, and honestly that chassis could take it. this could have been a real bunker on tracks. But I guess project got half-assed, as war was already won, so there was no point in making this much stronger, so it became heavy half assed artillery chassis.
@JimmySaulGoodmanMcGill1960
@JimmySaulGoodmanMcGill1960 2 жыл бұрын
7:45 live footage of Spookston becoming french
@TrepidDestiny
@TrepidDestiny 2 жыл бұрын
I live near a municipal airport. The favorite game I play when wearing headphones is "Do I hear incoming CAS or someone landing IRL?".
@TrojanHell
@TrojanHell 2 жыл бұрын
Spookston learning about reach trucks, and Spookston revealing he doesnt use cruise control
@BruceLeeroy94
@BruceLeeroy94 2 жыл бұрын
7:58 I told you my ghost would haunt you.
@feelthethruth2401
@feelthethruth2401 2 жыл бұрын
These titles man... I love this series
@Paco1037
@Paco1037 Жыл бұрын
'Oh, you think our reverse is slow?' 'Shteewpid innit'
@vachulak7737
@vachulak7737 2 жыл бұрын
11:47 poor spook got spooked
@lizardgod3671
@lizardgod3671 2 жыл бұрын
I love playing the Archer, you just drive forward, whip a sick 180 drift and pray that you manage to land your first shot
@seeargee
@seeargee 2 жыл бұрын
7:46 “Oui” - Spookston 2023
@jasertomhok
@jasertomhok 8 ай бұрын
When I was playing for Britain at this level, I used to treat it as a monster that was unleashed at the end of the battle to make those who thought they were in control of the game cry.
@ViralMag_Ravager
@ViralMag_Ravager 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I keep the 2c bis in my French lineup it may weigh 70t and only go 16kph but it also goes 16kph in reverse lol so I can retreat as fast as I got to the battle.
@CrowmanC419
@CrowmanC419 4 ай бұрын
watching you play makes me confident to use it and play thnx
@Tom--pf8ub
@Tom--pf8ub 2 жыл бұрын
I don't blame that StuG at 6:40. With how fucked gaijin's damage direction indicators are, i'm sure the game told him that he got shot from his right (because you hit his right plate)
@janglin488
@janglin488 2 жыл бұрын
You can tell how badly Archer damaged Spookston's psyche when he starts naming forklifts.
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