Shelly and Elaine underrated? Michael Johnson: Fraser-Pryce & Thompson-Herah deserve more credit

[@MarvinFord]

Michael is correct. Undervalued means that sponsors are not flocking to them. Do you see them in ad campaigns across the world? Your analysis is wrong. Value means money! Gold medals alone can’t pay bills. George's argument is out of context.

[@Hengel_Andrews]

I see Shelly in numerous Ad campaigns in the US market and Elaine in Euro market.

[@MarvinFord]

@@Hengel_Andrews I live in New York City, the media capital of the world and I don't see them on billboards in Time Square nor on national US TV. I saw bolt but not Shelly or Elaine. Good that you’ve seen them.

[@ryangreen5462]

I tell yah...George making Jamaicans look dumb as a bat

[@ryangreen5462]

@@Hengel_Andrews send them to me where u see Shelly in numerous ads in america...bcz this is KZbin and I haven't seen one 😐

[@ryangreen5462]

@@MarvinFord Marv I told him to send them to me ...bcz thos is KZbin and I haven't seen one 😕 ppl still lie so easily these days huh...I thought we were making progress on tht smh

[@NIKI_E]

I think George miss the point that Michael was trying to make..even though Michael didn't mention Sha'carri by name, I think he was saying, Sha'carri never won anything on the senior level & she's the one getting all the glory. She gets all the attention, have more endorsement & make more money than Elain & Shelly Ann for doing nothing, even the former 1st lady Michelle follows her on social media. Elaine & Shelly Ann have done so much for women's track & field, even some of the female distance runners & they don't even get the respect or recognition. I guess one of the two ladies are both gonna have to break the world record in the 100/200m for people outside of Jamaica to give them the Usain Bolt treatment.

[@yaadnice1351]

I totally agree with Michael, the sport of Athletics has had missed the boat of Usain's feat and now the same is being done for these two phenomenal ladies . Look at the following gains by respective phenoms of other sporting disciplines : Tiger Woods-Golf , Michael Jordan- NBA, Mike Tyson-Bixing , Michael Phelps -Swimming , etc etc etc. Usain Bolt captured the viewers globally and yet the sport didn't keep the viewers permanently entertained.

[@yaadnice1351]

Exactly

[@buildjamrock4544]

Money MJ a talk for the work that both Elaine and Shelly Ann do they should worth more than what they worth. Abby STEINER fresh on the blocks haven't won any major World Titles & got $2,000,000USD biggest signing for a female athletes in Track & Field history.

[@animeeditor8251]

Exactly 💯

[@courtneycriss9045]

Big up all true black people🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲💯 to di 🌎🌍🌎!!!

[@marciagrant5299]

Michael Johnson made a valuable point about our esteemed Jamaican female athletes. I also believe that Michael is saying that they are underrated globally instead of in Jamaica or around the Caribbean.

[@nordiagordon7464]

I agree with michael 100 percent

[@chisel144]

Exactly

[@yardie4169]

I concur with your reasoning, I think Michael is saying they're underrated in the US. Maybe an underlying reason could be the competitiveness of both countries in sprinting and the dominance Jamaica has over the US in the past decade.

[@neicypowell9405]

The international sport personnel are going this to create a barrier..and built a strive among the ladies..me love ❤️ them..them do nuff..

[@leroypalmer9018]

I agree. I believe that is the point he is making. Look at the Prefontaine classic 2021.Whom did they run interview immediately after Elaine Thompson Herah ran 10.54?

[@omarmarthluck2087]

The Male host missed Michael's point altogether and it was just funny how he got all worked up contradicting an argument that was never made in the first place. The Lady made the most telling point about Michael's argument in such a calm and relaxed way while using just a few seconds to do so

[@markjaccson1780]

I thought I was the only one that thought the male anchor is clown

[@paulhaye]

The thing I like about this guy is that he’s fair and truthful. He calls it how it is. No bias. Big up Mr. Johnson.

[@davidscott3726]

Smh . Jamaicans too emotional..No pitty party here

[@shelbibrown1325]

@@davidscott3726 We Jamaicans not saying it, that is from an American sprinter. We are just happy he said it.

[@davidscott3726]

@@shelbibrown1325 Happy for what??????

[@trudykroll7429]

He was bias before bolt broke his record and broke it again lol. After that he is team Jamaica.

[@raulblaze3300]

He misinterpreted Michael’s point by a huge margin. Michael is saying that they’ve already achieved a lot and should be more rewarded than they are now. It’s as if they have to break records to get the accolades they truly deserve. Well , that’s what I’m getting from it.

[@postit31]

I think it went over his head

[@tinahalliman6714]

So true

[@chisel144]

Exactly 💯💯

[@sheldnallen796]

Well said

[@garysamuels6139]

For this man to be saying this garbage makes u wonder if he watched MJ interview.

[@longbranch11207]

Micheal Johnson is correct . They gave Abby a 2 million dollars contract while Elaine and Shelly gets peanuts. Damn shame

[@sherwood9917]

We don't know how much Abby received because that information, despite what the media has reported, is not public. Also, we don't know the details of Elaine's and Shelly's contracts to label any of that a "shame."

[@kyngnick8723]

Not Abby's fault, blame NIKE, Shelly and Elaine's shoe sponser. Puma is known to care of there stars, look how they treated and is still treating BOLT.

[@SammySam316]

@@kyngnick8723 Puma is still treating Asafa Powell very well.

[@HouseScraper]

Yes I feel those ladies should get more money they are great

[@jenniewpt1745]

Micheal is right. I don't think it's a pity party or a snare he is just pointing out the obvious. Note, he is not saying they are chasing their time he says the public/world analysts, sponsersis and is using that to rate their talent and that is correct. He seems to be saying what we all have been saying for the longest time especially ETH fastest woman alive, consecutive double double Olympic sprint champion is not held to the esteem that she should be held at. Any other little excitement get brighter light shone on them. Micheal has just used his platform to make a point that no one was willing to do, yes he/Micheal did. We have our own celebs whom understand the circumstances but they said absolutely nothing! This was brave and I commend Michael Johnson on this. Remember Bolt initially had to fight to be recognized as a legend when he did things that others never even dreamed of! Yet he was somewhat ridiculed from high level. It's the same. .

[@albertmaraj]

He's very right. Shelly and Elaine have done some insane things and definitely don't get as much recognition as they should. Shelly should be as big as Usain if we keeping it 100. She got fame the same time as him and is STILL beating the world's best to this day.

[@bongokon4876]

Remember time will be broken. But championship remain forever with u . big up Johnson

[@karenwilliams7580]

Ask the sponsors - I am sorry but I am going to draw the equality card. Women

[@albertmaraj]

@@karenwilliams7580 I totally agree with you. Misogyny and sexism are still rampant and reflect in sports. A lot of ppl will watch a men's 100m race with no hesitation yet don't even think to watch a women's 100m race even tho the women's races bring more excitement. Elaine literally broke an Olympic record yet the men's 100m finals in Tokyo has more views than the women's. Keep in mind that the winning time of 9.80 is a time that the Tyson Gay, Usain Bolt, Asafa, Yohan, etc used to jog in heats or semis

[@Riptack7591]

As usual...George misses the point, the beautiful Lady gets it and Michael was absolutely spot on.

[@elnihomckenzie3629]

GEORGE IS A BATTYBOI AND PLEASE LEAVE THE FEMALES ALONE.

[@ryangreen5462]

this guy really try to neutralize wat me said but makes no sense ......u sir did ur country a disservice by trying to make. a point that never came......Jamaica is not a global stage ....MJ is 100% correct...they are underrtated and undervalued.....

[@ellioturiah4003]

This right here

[@errolcurrie5694]

Who is that dude he should shut up

[@berry87]

The point made by MJ went straight over George's haircut! "History acknowledges them as such, because their work dictates that they be acknowledged as such". Elaine & Shelly is not lauded outside of their country as they should! Those who have not accomplished a morsel, are given so much attention, in and outside the sport In Comparison. $$$$, Print Ads, Magazine, Forums, Esteemed TV Panels, Award Shows, in major US markets etc is not given to them outside of their country for their accomplishments. If they were USA athletes this would not be an issue. The World Athletics Governing Body/Agents/ Manager & persons with the responsible to Market the Sport should be doing a better job!

[@mauveletteburchell606]

Thank you Michael Johnson for recognizing the greatness and hardworking accomplishments Shelly-Ann and Elaine has done for track and field sports. I believe all these Jamaican athletes are all underrated globally.

[@michaelhenry786]

This bow-tie wearing guy, George, mangled his explanation so badly, it makes you wonder how easy it is to bring on some talking heads on to a news program to talk foolishness. While trying to disagree with what one of the greatest Olympian of all times said about the lack of recognition towards two of the greatest female sprinters of all times, George looked out of touch with what is really going on around him. His explanation of why he disagrees with Michael was so incoherent; at first, I thought he was trying to make fun of the truth of what Michael was saying, but I realized he was dead serious. Michael Jackson is 110% correct. Those two phenoms do not get the credit that they truly deserve.

[@donovantaylor3137]

That bow-tie wearing guy, George; is dead serious....he was trying to make fun of the truth of what Michael was saying....if you know George and people like him you will know what this is all about..in a nut-shell.. it is a caste system in Jamaica and the wider caribbean that George and Mariah is up holding...STAY IN YOUR PLACE BLACK PEOPLE; BE HAPPY WITH LESS, BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT FOR GENERATIONS TO COME...

[@sherwood9917]

Michael Johnson has been making this point for the last number of weeks on social media. From what I gather, he is using Shelly and Elaine as examples to make his bigger point, which is that Track and Field is not marketed properly. Therefore, big stars, like the two he mentions, do not get the recognition, globally, that they deserve. He is saying that the sport is not growing because of its obsession with rules (windspeed, times) that the casual viewer does not understand. He wants us to simply focus on competition. So, when Dina and Kambundji ran 22.37, we should ignore the slow time and focus on how competitive the race was. George has more than a small point: the sport is about the time. Times matter, which is why Johnson chased those records his entire career; he was not just running to win.

[@MindSSetMedia3241]

Sports is about winning and losing not about statistics, if Elaine runs 10:48 in a race but abbey Steiner runs 10:46, yes Elaine would have beaten the previous record time, but she would have lost to Abbey. As much as she would be happy to say she eclipsed flo jo’s time , I’m sure she would walk away somewhat bitter because at the end of the day she got beaten she didn’t win.

[@sherwood9917]

@@MindSSetMedia3241 Yes, sport is about winning and losing, and in T&F, times also matter. If times didn't matter, Johnson would not have spent his career chasing the world records in the 200 and 400 meters. We remember Johnson not just because he was winning, but also because he was breaking records. The two go hand-in-hand in T&F. Yulimar Rojas dominates the triple jump; what was she chasing last year? The record. It matters.

[@MindSSetMedia3241]

@@sherwood9917 I already explained my perspective on times, consider that records can be broke,so you can lose a record,like Michael Johnson now have.what does he have now, he has his medals to show,gold ones too because he won races.that can never be taken away, if times were the essence of track why don’t the athletes just don’t run alone and you time them, Shelly run first take her timing,then Elaine alone run then take the timing,then abbey Steiner go run alone you time her etc,where is the excitement in that. Would that get people out to watch,surely NOT, the excitement the essence in track is to see who cross the line first,when people running together, there is always excitement at races even if no timing is taken. Two boys line up in the playground at school, the whole school yard is watching and cheering and enjoying the race, the kids not excited because of the time they think they going to run,they watching to see who first cross the finish line. that’s it.

[@sherwood9917]

@@MindSSetMedia3241 I disagree. At the professional level, the excitement is seeing who wins AND in what time.

[@MindSSetMedia3241]

@@sherwood9917 I will guarantee that half of the people watching meets like the olympics and world champs do not even understand times in track, when a race begins each country are looking to see who win looking and hoping that the the athlete that represents their country cross the line first, the time is irrelevant to them. But you are liberty to disagree,doesn’t mean that what I’m saying is not what really obtains

[@tellthetruth3332]

Usain Bolt was recognized and also heavily rewarded with huge endorsements nationally and internationally. Well both Shelly and Elaine have been around for while and both have done amazingly and have been very consistent for a long time and I believe that they could and should have been more famous and more endorsed internationally.

[@carltongraham5727]

I've been saying this since 2020, these Jamaican female athletes don't get enough appreciation for what they are doing for the sport of athletics. They are championing their sport going forward but still so much underrated. If they were American, German ... They would be revered. When you analyse Shelly Ann's and Elaine's success you will find that they deserve much more accolades than what they are getting. They are actually game changers to normal World beaters.!

[@LenaSimmons]

Don’t forget our VCB - and Kerron deserves some love ❤️

[@MindSSetMedia3241]

I said so myself, this fixation on record is annoying and unfair to the athletes. Especially when the records are what they are. “ ifi “ I know George wouldn’t agree,because he is very guilty of going on forever about record, so silly,

[@stevepatrick8734]

If they were American, they would get all the accolades.

[@nanabradley9968]

I agree 👍

[@samueltullis806]

@@nanabradley9968 I'm from the US, and The American Media as a whole, tends to focus on who's popular, "Hype"and, the dramatic!

[@anthonyelliott9768]

God knows that the truth 💯 🤔

[@davidscott3726]

NOOOOOOO,y'all just looking on it from an emotional stand point .Look how many American track stars aren't super stars in America.. Americans don't really emphasize on TnF

[@davidscott3726]

@@anthonyelliott9768 Y'all just looking on it from America being a great country

[@donovantaylor3137]

Michael Johnson is 100% Right...i fully agree with him..

[@berry87]

Fancy words does not equate to proper logic and reasonability. The Sport of Track and Field is not doing its best to market the sport. Elaine & Shelly should be marketed and lauded around the World! Their accomplishments surely proves this.

[@altheajohn1253]

I'm hundred percent agree with what the gentleman say people don't give them enough credit that is so true

[@afrobuddy4801]

That gentleman is the 2nd greatest sprinter of all time (male and female) and he is called Michael Johnson.

[@dalehughes4269]

George you are such a stray bullet at times. You have seriously missed the issue in question here.

[@georgebarker5258]

George's purpose here was simply to be verbose :) - He is a man of many words. Keep it simple and to the point George :)

[@Paul-ze9hf]

Agreed. He countered points no one made.

[@kyngnick8723]

I 100% agree with Micheal.

[@alexstewart6831]

This guy don’t get the point. Shelly and Elaine does not get enough credit in the US and most of the world. They should be richer and more famous. The sport is not marketing them properly

[@ryangreen5462]

Straight to MJs point tht they are undervalued and underrated ....George needs to go bk to journalism school smh...embarrassing

[@alfa_romeo55yush82]

Boss, Michael Johnson is looking at it from an American point of view. He certainly would like the Jamaican women to receive more recognition. You are looking at it from a Jamaican point of view. I too believe that both women should be put on a world pedestal. And this is what Michael Johnson is trying to say. Where as an enormous amount of praise is shed on both women in Jamaica, sponsorship would certainly benefit both women if they were Americans. There is no arguemnt so relax with your view point. Cool out mi breddah. Michael Johnsons arguement is just an opinion.

[@Cognito747]

This man (George) has TOTALLY missed the point that Michael Johnson was making. And in fact, he himself is the EMBODIMENT AND PERFECT EXAMPLE of Michael Johnson's point! The sport has warped into a feverish concentration on time and record breaking as opposed to actual wins. George's own comments PROVES that statement.

[@gloriaglo8403]

Thank you Michael, you are so right.

[@donovanhendricks6815]

He has a point, they are also undervalued.

[@roywilliams9532]

George speaking in the past tense Michael is speaking in the presence, the human tendency is of such. BUT! will always hang over their head if they don't break the world record. Both of you spoke of the accolades they achieve.. no points for that.Achievements,! the world should give them more recognition, not only Jamaica.. eg.I never heard of a shelly or Elaine spikes, what's their brand George? I agree with Michael the world need to give them more recognition for they achievements. Notwithstanding the world records. What I do hope that one of these three ladies Elaine, Shericka and Shelly one of them can break the world records.

[@johnkennedy8640]

Jamaicans appreciate their athletes whether they break a record or not. Still, I think Michael was speaking generally and in all places. With that, there are so many other ways in which the athletes are underappreciated! Micheal Johnson is correct. George has spoken but managed to say nothing... nothing to refute what is indeed a fact! Both Shelly and Elaine are underappreciated. As are most other Jamaican athletes. Think endorsements and money, Abbey Steiner and Shacarri have more money on a promise of greatness- they have achieved nothing. SFP and ETH are global. Are they making money outside of Jamaica? Are they getting appearance fees, Ala Usain Bolt? George has reduced Michael's point to fit his narrative, by talking about appreciation in the Caribbean. Track and field is global. It was only since Bolt's dominance started that non American athletes even got interviewed. Not only was there the stigma of being underappreciated, but most athletes were also disrespected, as the media would interview Americans who have lost their race, as opposed to interviewing the winners from another country. In Jamaica we give athletes awards and accolades, but does Jamaica even pays them for being such great ambassadors for the country...their prowess translates to at least $1b US for the tourism industry. Do the athletes even get paid for winning medals at the Olympics...or does George thinks a weekend at Sandal's is sufficient appreciation. How do the IAAF and the Olympics make so much money and so many athletes are so poor...where is the appreciation. Shelly and Elaine gets neither glory nor money from them.. Major league soccer, NFL, NBA NHL..All the leagues pay their players. Even college athletes are allowed to be paid.

[@Evertosh]

I think Michael Johnson is speaking from the viewpoint of the American public.

[@sherwood9917]

A point that George acknowledges.

[@ryangreen5462]

No0e...globally

[@1Koolyou]

George you nah nuh sense the people them nuh wah more money too a from 2008 Shelly ina this at the face and center of the sports with world class times each and every year she should be the most expensive and richest female athlete right now without a doubt only god knows if she’s ..sounds like Michael know wah gwaan too him must a see seh all little abby weh nuh got a world title yet come a get more so something a gwaan

[@albertmaraj]

Shelly is only worth 5 million after dominating for over a decade and that is so insane to me. She should be worth 50 million or more by now. Very saddening. These athletes put their bodies on the line and aren't paid their worth. World athletics needs to do better

[@marciamitchell5216]

Johnson is correct. You don't agree with him because you did not figure it first.

[@jamericanyouthtravels1652]

I totally disagree with George. We know that Shelly and Elaine is recognized in Jamaica but worldwide their recognition is not sufficient. You have to be honest about that. These women are outstanding and deserve more respect worldwide. Shacarri gets more air time in the last two years than these two champions. George is missing the point.

[@0161scally]

Michael is correct as usual. The other guy doesn’t get the point!

[@rickiricardo1137]

Michael is making his point from an American standpoint. The American media doesn’t rate these Jamaican athletes simply because they win. They will have to do something extra to be acknowledged. Within the Caribbean, they are highly rated. But outside of that, in America, they are not. Look at the sponsorship they receive compared to S. Richardson who only won the American trial and then keeps coming last after that. The media is hyped about them. There’s some truth to what Johnson is saying.

[@walelade8579]

What is the bow tie wearing guy talking about? One of the biggest voices in track and field is essentially advocating for more money, sponsors, recognition for the world's greatest female sprinters, who happen to not be Americans and you call that a pity party? While he's entitled to his opinion, he showed a lot of ignorance about how the world works.

[@annakaybailey6658]

George should look into the business of sports management in the world having big sponsors and top class marketing team will enable top athletes especially American make far more than money than Jamaicans. If Usain Bolt was American he would have been valued far more interms of branding, sponsorship deal and wealth so I understand Michael opinion....

[@lejurotv]

I agree with you

[@MarvinFord]

I somewhat agree with you. But in the words of Emily from The Devil Wears Prada, “That’s a pathetic excuse.” By the way, it’s not directed at you. It’s directed at the media industry. I have seen many athletes without personality getting their due and making bank.

[@staple-lah]

100%

[@carsonova180]

George, Michael is right. It is not that people do not recognize Shelly and Elaine but they really have not gotten the international recognition that they ought to. The last global super star in athletics was Usain Bolt. Bolt got to that status because he broke world records. Elaine getting that double double in the Olympics is an achievement that no other woman has ever realised and the only other athlete to have done so is Bolt. Yet Elaine is not seen as a super star. Elaine would have had both the 100m and 200m world records had it not been for Flo Jo times which have been clouded with suspicion. I do not believe Shelly and Elaine's name is mentioned internationally in the same reverence as other great athletes of the past.

[@rdd4944]

Correction ETH not the only one to win double double

[@carsonova180]

@@rdd4944 Which other female athlete has won the 100m and 200m double in consecutive Olympics?

[@ikongchin3088]

I totally AGREE

[@rdd4944]

None. ETH is the only one

[@sadikieschiekov1337]

Johnson is speaking in terms of global sport stars. Most global superstars have surpass some records. Steph curry, Messi, Serena because of records and even our own usain bolt. So yes because of them not having the world records they are undervalued. George you are only talking about in Jamaica while Johnson is talking globally in comparison to other sorting superstars

[@davidscott3726]

Foolishness you talking .Stop being emotional and look at the logics of George's statement...DO YOU KNOW WHATS SUBLTLE DISRESPECT.🤔

[@sophiapottinger2890]

I agree with Michael Johnson 100% . 🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🎖

[@rdd4944]

George you are way off son. Way off!! Michael Johnson is right. Case in point we talking about flo jo some 30 plus years only because she has a world record. Another example carl Lewis and Jessie owen feats are forgotten. These two are awesome 2 back to back Olympic gold and ETH double double. MJ is right these ladies need world recognition not in Jamaica only. They are undervalued. Last point look at the lebron James the michael Jordan's floyd Mayweathers and the serena Williams and naomi Osaka. ETH and SFP pales interns of fortune's and recognition. No matter they are Americans. George has his head up his ass too often. Listen to what the man is saying on face value. Even wen mariah is trying to focus George on the finer points on his statement he resists. What If it was leighton or lance making Mariah's point. They are undervalued no matter what george thinks they dont get the recognition deserved. All now usain bolt dont get the recognition he deserves,!!

[@ryangreen5462]

Need to check George's credentials ...bcz rite now he's so far off this topic tht he mite need to go bk to summer school to catch up or jus anull his licenses bcz he really wmbarassrd himself here

[@_CMm]

He comes across as arrogant.

[@am24526]

I was going to come down to the comment section to mention that George totally missed Michael Johnson's point but I'm glad that everyone already understands that. Michael Johnson is saying that for most people, Elaine/Shelly's overall achievement and glory in the sport will be forever linked to whether or not they break the world record. This is true. Some people will hesitate to give these ladies a certain level praise if their careers end and 10.49 is still the WR. I completely agree with Michael Johnson when he says that this should not be! For me, Elaine and Shelly will still be legends regardless of their PBs upon retiring. For Shelly, it's her inspiration and consistency that should be the talking points when she retires. Multiple global titles over a span of 15(!) years with a whole baby in between. For Elaine, it's the overcoming of multiple hurdles and injuries to be the DOUBLE DOUBLE Olympic Champion. Yes, we love fast times but times should never be the indicator of a track and field legend. Allyson Felix never broke any individual world records but she is a legend for reasons I shouldn't have to explain to any track and field fan. It's not the PBs, it's the story they leave on the track!

[@bevenawilliams8491]

I get the point that Michael is saying and I agreed with him wholeheartedly, I've been saying that for the longest time, especially Shellyann, all the ladies deserve more accolades, they are definitely underrated, they have done so much for the sport,we agreed and understand what you're saying Michael.. Love you for this..it shows that you are not biased,

[@pelpspelps4033]

Can't agree with George, Mike is correct. they run championships for medals not times, if fast times comes with the with W so be it, you can break the WR in semi's and lose in the finals, you won't be remembered for the WR but for you choking in the final and no gold medal or no medal.

[@albertmaraj]

This is so true. Look at Ta Lou who ran her in the Olympic heats. If she had run the rounds better and beat Shericka for example, she'd have been remembered more. Not many people look at the fact that she ran two 10.7s back to back

[@pelpspelps4033]

@@albertmaraj Exactly my point.

[@kenroycampbell3745]

George needs to spend some time and do critical research in order to learn how to interpret someone's argument. He misses Johnson's point and give an answer that is far beyond what Johnson says.

[@elnihomckenzie3629]

Big facts and he's a cool fool straight up

[@franchin5241]

I would have wholeheartedly agreed with Michael Johnson had he qualified the statement. They are underrated by corporate. Their performances warrant much more endorsement contracts.

[@venvensworld3090]

Michael is right fi real

[@davids5980]

Not sure why George was so intent on disagreeing with the great Michael Johnson that he missed what Johnson was saying. Johnson is right. No lies were told. Also he has the experience within the sport to have valid and trusted opinions. What we are witnessing is greatness. We as a global audience should appreciate it and them more! Calm down George.

[@1CSPerry]

Honestly, Bolt was very charismatic. It’s not easy to market those who are not. He had something extra, besides the speed, and it sparked more of an interest in him as an athlete. Some people have it and some don’t…PERIOD. However, Shelly is phenomenal in just about every interview. Her answers are almost like a lesson given by a master technician. I’ve seen many reporters use bait questions that could be taken and use to create drama, but Shelly always seems to navigate them very well by keeping it classy. Nonetheless, for many that’s not entertaining at all and people want to be entertained. Anyways, that’s my 2cents…✌🏾

[@greathieghts3314]

Nah you don't know shelly then shelly is very entertaining and charismatic she speaks well but she has definitely charisma

[@1CSPerry]

@@greathieghts3314 honestly I like Shelly, and she’s definitely not boring, but Usain was just a little extra. He took advantage of the camera in a way that most don’t and many can’t. There are plenty of times I’ve seen him playing with the reporters, camera crews, and the fans in ways I have yet to see others do on that same level. However, Noah Lyles is somewhat of an exception, but he doesn’t look comfortable to me personally. Hey, but these are just my opinions…✌🏾

[@greathieghts3314]

@@1CSPerry no man usain is in his own lane no doubt he's very charismatic we can all agree on that, his personality definitely helps him to become who he his undoubtedly no comparison there....but shelly is entertaining as much as she's professional her personality is vibrant, when it comes to female athlete we don't see much of that in Jamaica and across the world...bolt just deh pon another level

[@1CSPerry]

@@greathieghts3314 I agree and I definitely fine Shelly interesting on and off the field, and I can’t say that about many others.

[@delroylewis6763]

This guy is a joker. Michael Johnson is perfectly on spot with his comment.

[@jojomargaux9295]

Michael John is trying to tell you all that these ladies deserves more sponsorships , where the big dollars are concern, he’s trying to tell ppl that regardless of WR or SUPER FAST TIME, what Elaine did is not to be ignored, they deserves so much more. Elaine is back to back Olympics champion. In regards to Shelly she’s goat. I like Micheal is so…. Right, stop pressuring these ladies to break the WR, still tell them they’re the best regardless of times. We are too focus on times and if either of them doesn’t break these records, ppl will be disappointed.

[@HouseScraper]

I love Shelly Ann and Elaine they are great they have more 5han proven theire talent.

[@leroypalmer9018]

George you are speaking from the Jamaican perspective, while Michael Johnson is speaking from the American perspective. To most Americans, America is the world, they have no respect for anyone outside of the USA. So that is how Michael Johnson is seeing it. Not the same in the USA George.

[@shenirhosten5436]

I think George has gravely misinterpreted the angle Michael Johnson has interpreted this from. They are indeed undervalued and underrated. For Nike to even think about making Shacari Richardson as their golden child while sponsoring both Shelly-ann and Elaine Thompson shows a great lack of appreciation and respect for those assets. MJ is an American working in the British media, hence he has a better understanding of the conversations being had on the highest levels within international circles on both Jamaican athletes in comparison to others, hence the reason for his statements on the matter. Why would he want to have a pitty party? I'm not in favour with this take at all. Let's make better arguments and stay away from the barbershop type melee.

[@jannettjones9165]

R u an athlete sir ... no u r a narrator or comentator..I agree with Micheal..

[@cecelianelson359]

The income disparity in track and field is horrible. George needs to acknowledge that. The accolades provided by the government cannot feed them.

[@bevenawilliams8491]

This is the comment I've been looking for..did they get money?.. I think not.... Michael made a valid point.. George needs to take a sat..smh

[@philrichter3161]

As far as I'm concerned, Elaine Thompson is the world record holder at 10.54. Don't care what the books say.

[@MarvinFord]

Knowing words don’t equate to reasoning. That’s the lesson I am reminded of today.

[@afrobuddy4801]

I think I trust the opinion of Michael Johnson, probably the 2nd greatest sprinter of all time, over whoever this other dude is

[@incorp2192]

I think they are definitely appreciated and celebrated in their home countries. but honestly what they have achieved is really up there with, for instance usain bolt. I think a lot of us that have T&F education understand that though their times do not have WR stamped next to them that they practically are world record achievements that no one other than flojo (dubiously) has acheived. If The times from marion jones and flojo did not exist we would be saying that we have never seen anything like this before- ever. This is Michael's point. Forget the time, if it happens it happens. World records are made to be broken, medals are forever. The point is they are consistant, they show up on the day and perform. How many times over how many years did flojo actually win? How many of her times are actually in even the top 50

[@lorrainewilson5234]

I'm one hundred percent with George. Very very good analysis of what Mr Johnson said

[@lovezone128]

Michael is right , George didnt get the point and end up spewing fallacy

[@adriangrant6954]

I think he missed the bigger picture. Michael is talking world wide not just Jamaica.

[@sandrapaul8000]

Michael Johnson hit the nail on the head. This guy George haven't got a clue as to what Michael was talking about. Him need to Wheel and come again. We're here talking about Internationally not local. He's so off key.

[@michaelrichards4489]

George, George, you are too brilliant. You make the point so eloquently. Can't add words to what u say, u too good George, well said. ...

[@MarvinFord]

It’s funny to watch George mansplained about a topic he got so wrong.

[@ryangreen5462]

Like ...he couldn't be more wrong smh.

[@Grogu-485]

George is wrong on this, Micheal johnson is right.

[@thebuffet5660]

Mike is right!

[@maricerhule5280]

I think Michael don't want the record to leave America 😎 when did he become an advocate for our sweet nice ladies 🤔

[@afrobuddy4801]

lol come on that is just flat out false. Michael was literally fangirling over Bolt when he was running and was even cheering him on to break the WR whenever he was on the track. He was also happy when wayde broke his 400m wr.

[@bevenawilliams8491]

You definitely don't know Michael, he's an advocate for almost everyone in the sport..he's not biased, he speaks it as he sees it, and in this case I'm in agreement with him

[@crystalwright7090]

I agree with Michael Johnson. Take time to appreciate the ladies for their extraordinary work. Forget records.

[@mechanic126]

Michael is right just look at what they’re worth comparing to other athletes financially

[@normagordon1375]

Man spoke the truth! Bottom line! These women are lauded in our country, no doubt about it but when it comes to a payday, unequivocally YES they are under valued and underrated hence their payday falls flat and the other big elephant in the room is melamine, yes I said it because it's 100% true!

[@ryb2189]

Michael is right they are lauded in Jamaica. But here in the USA they are not celebrated.

[@staple-lah]

The nationals of Jamaica appreciate and love our Athletes.. leaders don't don't do enough for them

[@michaelrichards4489]

Your defense of the point represents us Jamaicans as well as the great Elaine, and Shelly-Ann do. Three thumbs up. 👏 👏 👏

[@uw8850]

Both men have good argument. Michael is based in USA and sees less accomplished athletes being recognized and endorsed more than these greats. These ladies are globally recognized (international stars) but are not benefitting from large corporations' budgets like American athletes do. NBA and NFL stars are local(US) heroes but they make a lot more money than these international superstars.

[@bongokon4876]

Remember time will be broken but championship remain dor ever. Johnson knows that cause his record broke so easy that he work so hard for but he holds his medals

[@tamarwilliams3792]

Omg George .....was it so hard to see Michael's point....a kindergarten student could spot it and u didn't...dammmm

[@SeVen007Seven]

Damn George, I’ve never seen you so way off. Michael is right.

[@michaelforbes6848]

I think Michael is right, after winning back to back Olympics 200m and 100m, Elaine sponsor rated Richardson above her as demonstrated by their treatment of her

[@mechanic126]

If you’re at your job and your boss keeps telling you about the great job you’re doing but the pay doesn’t reflect it this is what Michael is talking about

[@papachulisimo910]

Micheal's point is really valid and George's is valid too, but on two different levels. Let's go Ladies!!!

[@dewayanejohnson1620]

George Davis is totally correct!! We already kno that Elaine & Shelly is both class act. So we need the record to go now.

[@chickahughes3200]

He is not talking about us Jamaicans and Jamaica he talking about the big sponsorship and the way other countries see them.

[@samueltullis806]

Not sure what this guy Host is trying to create; A simple comment is sufficient!

[@tonykey007]

Time or no time, we are talking about the world's greatest! My take being talking

[@indianhill5096]

Narrow minded talk,Michael Johnson is talking about International world wide even his country don’t give them the respect,that what he talking about

[@aquearmstrong]

Did he just reference their commendations in JAMAICA to argue that they aren't undervalued? So George thought MJ was talking about being valued in a dot on the map? That was just incredible! You can't be that far off. This is impossible! 😆 Then again, TIJ!

[@adrianshields8003]

Well said Michael 👏.

[@tfmarketing12]

Unfortunately, I think the fact that these women are not American works against them in terms of endorsements, promotion etc. Sometime it seems like Nike does more to promote Sha'Carri Richardson than they do to promote Shelly-Ann and Elaine, who are 2 of the all time greats. Even though she doesn't have the world record, what Shelly-Ann has achieved in the sport is on par with what Flo-Jo achieved career-wise. but she doesn't get anywhere near the level of public recognition, etc. that Flo-Jo did. Even Usain Bolt, who got a his fair share of recognition, endorsements etc. would have been a much bigger star if he was American. Whether we think that's fair or not, that's just pretty much how things are set up nowadays.

[@gil5933]

Michael is correct ,he’s trying to pave a way to sponsors and promoters to acknowledge Shelly and Elaine they deserve more ,how come we knew Marion Jones ,Carl Lewis ,Jeter without social media if you guys say they were giving certificates and honoured in Jamaica that’s not enough cause their career is global and means marketing and advertising is poor ,

[@websurfer1000]

I think you are missing his point. I agree with Johnson to a point about WR's being such a huge focus that it hurts them but I also think what hurt SFP and more so ETH in terms of world wide appreciation that matches their level of accomplishments..... the games in Tokyo were damaged due to covid...ETH broke Flojo's Olympic record in the 100m and she did not get the world wide attention as FloJo...for a reason. The Tokyo games could never live up to the 88 games in world wide importance. there was no crowd, the excitement levels were lame without a crowd going insane, viewership was down, the world wide attention was down..etc. what he is really talking about is the mega watt attention Bolt got or FloJo in her day vs ETH/SFP. Bolt and FloJo had the IT factor besides WR's due to their charisma or trailblazing. Bolt was a showman and in flojos case she was a trailblazer bringing high fashion and more to track while the 88 games were the last cold war Olympics. The stakes were much higher as it was the soviet led east vs the free world west. It was the height of the cold war. The east was winning everything year after year due to their state sponsored doping programs or having fully supported pros vs true amateurs based on that eras rules because they were pushing their society as being superior to the west in every way. Just like hitler and the berlin games. Imagine if ETH had taken her two golds against the eastern bloc in that era. The entire western world would have gone wild. It's not just times. It's also match ups, the times, the stakes, the global attention, rivalry between nations... berlin is still talked about to this day because it was owens vs hitlers nazi master race BS. Owens was the star of that games and stuck it to the nazi superiority claims. Nobody remembers the times in that case but berlin and owens...in the top 5 list of all time.. In 88 it was flojo representing the west vs the soviet union in the 88 games. I remember those games well. Now, if ETH does great at this years worlds which could have a bigger audience in the US than Olympics who knows but there isnt much around today with that type of gravity. She doubles again at the next games then she is in the top 5 goats men or women. I favor SFP in the 100 as she has been smoking hot this year while Jackson has to be favored in the 200m. I agree with you WR's are a huge factor but what Johnson is talking about is they are not getting Bolt like global mega watt attention or flojo level for the amazing body of work/races/titles....true but bolt/flojo were showman with the IT factor which made them must see TV for many reasons. Look around today is there anyone on the mens side getting Bolt like mega watt attention around the world? Or the Woman like FloJo in 88 where even non track fans knew who they were...nope. We have Syd breaking 400m hurdle records almost every time she steps on the track...she has the WR's...the looks...everything but not even close to touching FloJo mania. Mu...a rare once in 100 year 400/800m combo runner....not even close. Maybe if she golds in the 400m/800m in the next games for only the second time in history since the cuban in 76 to win that rarest double in track....maybe. Im a huge track fan and ran in college.... so ETH, SFP...are way up on my list of amazing runners of all time as I watch track closely but at the end of the day track is also a show and a business as well as an athletic event. Bolt as a WR holder and showman...hasnt been touched. ETH needs to break the flojo record because there just arnt the same meets around with the same high stakes and attention as the flojo era and she doesnt have the bolt/flojo charisma - the IT factor is something that is just there or not. Bolt was oozing with it. FloJo...we watched her because she pushed the heck out of norms...with the wild outfits she designed, the full body suits, the lace outfits, hair, the looks....more common today but back then...it was scandalous. We never knew what she was going to do next. When she showed up at the 88 trials in the one legged outfit one day and the lace outfit the other...people went wild. It looks tame by todays standards but she was pushing the envelope every time she stepped on the track in 88 with her wild outfits.

[@markjaccson1780]

Michael is a boss yo, much respect to you Michael

[@richardservice2452]

And reading these comments now i stand in the middle but more so to the comments section of what many say and for me reading and understanding their own sentiments too makes many a sense, our girs or highly underrated and as i say that this comes tonmy mind with the likes of one Asafa Powel, because he doesn't break records he is thrown away right under the last wheels of the 18 wheeler.......

[@ikongchin3088]

U crack mi up wid your last wheel a de 18 wheeler.Asafa is my favourite runner after Usain from way back. But u must not forget that it was Asafa who.broke the WORLD record before BOLT BLESSED

[@paulhaye]

What is this bozo commentator trying to say? His argument is convoluted and unclear. Mr. Johnson is absolutely right. Be quiet Sir. With love ❤.

[@sheldongayle6634]

I can't believe George doesn't get it. Smh. Michael Johnson is correct but George doesn't see his point. If both athletes should be valued based on Jamaican standard only, their stock would be very low because Jamaican endorsements alone cannot count in the big league of sporting greats. If you don't get it, you don't get it. Undervalued means they are not paid what they truly are worth.

[@JeeGo-Aries-King]

You bro dem not making enough money & general props! Michael Johnson's point is right and you missed it totally.

[@sonianichols6900]

SO TRUE MICHAEL JOHNSON I AGREE

[@Hengel_Andrews]

Michael Johnson’s argument is defeated by simply say Bolt. Bolt lost in 2017 and no one cares, why? Because no one beat him running 9.57. Every time someone runs a fast time or even wins a race in the bottom left corner it shows the current wr. Many people will be crowned champions, but there will only be one (1) World record.

[@richardservice2452]

At first when I heard Michael Johnson take/ reasoning i was so in agreement what all he says until i heard the analysts give his rebuttal and reason i say but this makes better sense....we wont fall into the pity party no way no time......