Spotifys Downfall Is Inevitable

[@fatlink1079]

Ok I hear you, but how am i going to transfer my 2k songs to another service tho?

[@_FLWRS]

Someone said there’s an app or something I’ll look for the comment. Other than that just dedication for the game! Edit:SongShift, Soundiiz, or TuneMyMusic

[@trevor_mounts_music]

There's a shitload of apps that will convert your playlist

[@Veso266]

Maybe start buying music on physical media Here noone can take anything away from u, u buy it once, its yours

[@VivyX2]

I'm stuck with almost 8k...

[@pftvfc66]

I transfered aroud 6k songs to Apple Music from Spotify. There's a lot of software for that.

[@LiTTLeDizZyUriNe]

Im going back to my teen years and imma just burn CDs and get an mp3 play with a 1tb SD card. I'm tired this shit

[@Alex-vm6ef]

That's what I did and I found that I've been enjoying + appreciating music more too. Something about consciously selecting the albums I wanna hear from before I get in the car + only having those options VS picking from innumerable songs or playlists on my phone I also use "pulsar" on my phone to organize my favorites that I have downloaded

[@cruxxxmusic]

Just did the same thing for movies and Shows, i have canceled netflix, bought a DVD player and now im just renting dvds from the public library for 20 bucks per year

[@JohnAsuncion666]

ive been buying albums, instead of renting music from spotify I buy an album a month, the same price and I get to keep it forever. Maybe two if I have money to spend, in a year or two my library will me massive.

[@Phyclone]

I have been doing this for a few years but using an old phone as an mp3 player and I have a double din in my truck and I converted music videos to the format my double din accepts and now can watch music videos in the truck through a USB drive. Taking it back to the early 00s

[@neilfordan]

You know what, imma start doing this again.

[@ABILY_LUPAYN]

Not KZbin having the video start with an unskippable Spotify ad💀

[@peeron6829]

its just because it says spotify in the titel bro😂 happens so often with other things aswell.

[@freshestinclass763]

Spotify used their small artists cumulative profits for that ad spend.😅

[@guy_above_me_is_ugly]

KZbin is dumb for doing that, consider that KZbin Music is a thing. Why not just advertise your own services instead?

[@patchacuti7338]

@@guy_above_me_is_ugly It's actually very interesting, anyone can make a youtube ad as long as they pay for it.that's why a lot of them are so low quality

[@Tupactopus16]

I do KZbin premium and use their KZbin music. I like it I’m just streaming in the car or gym. Works fine.

[@QBFoxMan]

Cancelled my membership a week ago. And the reason I told them was due to their mistreatment of smaller artists. Paying them like an eigth of a penny per stream is pretty gross. We are practically one tick above piracy at that rate. Except its worse in a way because we're paying the people directly responsible for taking money from artist's pockets. Didnt mind the service as a whole but I cant support a company like that in good faith. HARD pass. Thieves!!

[@lauren6509]

Honestly I may have to cancel too. I had the student one which was like $5 a month including Hulu. I graduated and they canceled my membership. I tried to apply again because I'm in grad school and they said no 😵‍💫 Over the past two years I've enjoyed building up my CD collection so I may have to buy a big black case for my CDs soon ☠️

[@kevinquirarte2365]

Buy Vinyl instead

[@lucidragon5260]

Get a disk drive, Rip the music from your CDs, and get a free music player for your phone.

[@bujoodoo1]

I’m a small artist, my BIGGEST song made 6 dollars, but that shit felt like eeeeeverything. Bro but now Spotify is basically shrinking my already minuscule profit but charging me MORE??? They dared me to cancel and I said bet, we on YT now

[@_FLWRS]

Called that bluff!

[@bujoodoo1]

Yessir! In a heart beat

[@alexknox814]

spoti who? u mean that app I deleted when Rogan didn't shut up about the vaccine, just constantly having boring comedians kiss his ass and talking bout murderers, savages, beasts, n some game called quake from a time when nobody knew what a gigabyte was.

[@christianpoint0888]

KZbin premium is hands down the best !

[@YOURDADSNEPHEW]

Bro idk why but my Spotify is glitched on Xbox where I don't have ads and it's when I connect my Polish Samsung phone I got last year in army in poland😂 it's weird. Free Spotify 😂😂

[@SEOshogun]

I use KZbin music and prefer it. I have no ads on KZbin or with KZbin music. I find it extremely useful

[@SplendidNinja]

Facts, it makes me feel like I'm not even paying for music since I watch more youtube than anything (premium even got a couple of good movies too).

[@user-gs8jv4oq6w]

Same

[@mykale]

Same, but I used to use Apple Music and their recommendations aren’t as good as KZbin Music’s. I like it because KZbin Music has a good balance of recommending you songs you’ve listened to and also some new songs you haven’t heard. THEN, there’s the fact that you can listen to independently uploaded songs (you just upload music as a video) which makes finding obscure covers and other stuff way easier

[@peeron6829]

i got premium but didnt even use yt music lol, i think in should look into it edit: neither i used spotify tbh

[@Ta_Mbox3502]

YT music is criminally underated

[@cozyjonah]

As an artist, I'd much appreciate if people switched to using Apple Music because they actually pay decently, are cheaper and don't make artists pay just to upload their lyrics to the platform for people to see.

[@SharpWitted]

Actually, I have been for the past last year trying to figure out where I'm going to be uploading my music so thank you for this comment because I was already leading towards Apple, but not knowing if I should go all in

[@liamwithaspace]

Asking this as a music fan, not an artist myself, but do you know how youtube music compares to apple and spotify? I've been considering switching from spotify recently and want to make the best choice for artists that I can.

[@cozyjonah]

@@liamwithaspace KZbin Music also pays by the stream, it's more than Spotify, at .008 cents per stream, but it's still laughable. and it also gets complicated. I can actually upload my music videos to Apple Music directly and be compensated for it, whereas on KZbin I have to be in the creators program (which requires 3k+ watch hours/1 Year) in order to monetize.

[@rachaelmolene]

​@@liamwithaspace youtube music is wayyy better than spotify. I don't know about Apple music because I use an android (S24). But if I used an iPhone, I will definitely try out Apple music. KZbin music's catalogue is more expansive than spotify's. You can find anything there. My music preference was in limbo state for a while, till I started using ytmusic. I've discovered so many artists there. So you can try out ytmusic free plan. (better than spotify's. Only thing you can't do with a ytmusic free plan is play music in the background) while you test out Apple music as well.

[@monicarenee7949]

Glad to hear. I was using Apple Music already because it easily synced with my iPhone (for example, when someone sends me a text with a song, I can easily find it in Apple Music under “music sent to you” or whatever it’s called) but glad to know there are more reasons to keep it

[@Shade35]

And just like that, I'm getting my eyepatch and going to the seven seas

[@_FLWRS]

🤣

[@iaintookthatbb6599]

Aye aye

[@BenCaesar]

Arrrrrrg😂

[@nobrega.8]

Soul seek all the way

[@wirezat4558]

Arrr, wait until you find out you cann self host that stuff very easily

[@reilife555]

Mans did a poll then shitted on 51% of the people that selected Spotify😂 flwrs is goated

[@amcg6075]

Str8 villian shi 🤣

[@CPParsley]

Selected Spotify, agree with him tho. Flwrs W

[@plvto1]

I'm getting real sick of companies treating their customers like shit and getting away with it because of the bootlickers who rush to defend them anytime anyone says anything and because people will say they'll stop using the product and buying future ones but then go back to buying it and using it in like a week. I make music and lots of people have asked me about putting it on Spotify and everytime they ask me I say I will but I secretly just don't want to do it. I don't like Spotify, I don't like the shit they pull, and I don't want people to use it more because my stuff's on there. There's a reason I basically forgot my login to my account and have never looked back since.

[@DJDiskmachine]

'I believe Spotify hinders creativity and encourages artists to make safe and repetitive music'. Preach! I've almost got into arguments with musicians younger than me that are purposefully adapting their works to optimize for algorithm performance. So upsetting, art should be free from these restraints 💪🌹

[@DJDiskmachine]

NB: almost as in I stopped myself when I realized that it's not their fault! They are raised in an environment that takes this for granted, very troubling for the future of music and arts.

[@PuffinPass]

I use the free version of Pandora and Spotify and honestly it is rare that Spotify is even my preferred streaming service. The amount of ads these services run should be more than enough to pay out on the music and continue to invest in infrastructure. Those who pay for the service are a bonus to the service. If they can't manage the funds correctly then maybe the service deserves to die, you should live and die on the decisions you make for your business that is the risk you accept when you start a business.

[@Jane-oz7pp]

lol no company that makes it to a 7 figure income ever has to accept any risk, the government will bail them out every time, even if they're still making a profit!

[@richiehoyt8487]

​@@Jane-oz7pp Yeah, but they're Swedish. Probably won't make a difference though.

[@adamknight5089]

Thats a really good point bro, they're making money whether paid or free. How are they still losing money?

[@Cooe.]

You have no IDEA how much audio ads pay. 🤣 Your ads don't pay for jack $**t. 🤷 Spotify doesn't even come f**king CLOSE to breaking even! No music streaming service does! The entire concept of ala-carte music streaming with a monthly subscription is fundamentally flawed unless that subscription is >=$30 a month. Otherwise it simply does not math.

[@Cooe.]

​@@adamknight5089They aren't making money dumbarse. 🤦😑 The music streaming agreements with the record labels cost way, WAAAAAAAY more than what they make in ads of free users and subscription fees from paying ones. The math simply does not work. Spotify/Apple/Tidal/etc would have to charge around $30 a month per user for these companies to actually break even.

[@_FLWRS]

These comments make me realize some of yall really would stay in a pot of boiling water just as long as they went up in 1 degree increments on the way

[@This.isfaeee]

THIS IS SO FUNNY WHAT

[@realmynameshiro]

This world is sad man. People actually just eat up the garbage left behind by Big Tech ://

[@realmynameshiro]

@@This.isfaeee This isn't funny. It's sad people suck off Big Tech...

[@cozyjonah]

Bunch of frogs

[@cozyjonah]

@@fran8926 yall wilding yall not even seeing the point of his video. People will not care until artists decide to remove their music from these services.

[@nugnugfieri7195]

As someone with a car thing, this was some frustrating news. I've actually overall been pretty happy with the car thing, so to have it unceremoniously dropped is just a shame. I was hoping for updates and new iterations, not bricking it.

[@Grindtone603]

CD's are the best physical media that exists. I love album art and liner notes plus all the weird things/hidden tracks artists did in the 90's and 2000's.

[@Cashmusic777]

As a yt music user i feel happy for not paying 11.99 per month🙏🏽

[@Eniggma39]

Same here 💪

[@RENX5]

Can you import your playlists somehow?

[@nopawsbutton]

@@RENX5yeah there are ways i think

[@luzzyluz67457]

​@RENX5 look it up on Google I saw a website somewhere that did it for me

[@guy_above_me_is_ugly]

​@RENX5 yes, there's already websites for that. The only thing is that you have to double check and see if all the songs were transferred

[@brianice9846]

615 million users x $1.00 that’s an extra 615 million dollars

[@ThePalaceofCards]

A month

[@tulmenkov]

Ya but as a consumer i do not care about paying one more dollar

[@jabarigraham8]

Also not all customers are not paying to use Spotify most are free users

[@thetechfromheaven]

They will end like Whatsapp, remember when you had to pay to use it? Yeah, then they started failing against BBM and FB eventually bought them and made it free for use

[@_FLWRS]

@@jabarigraham8 That’s fair. 239 paid subscribers. So 239 mill more a month

[@WCS_GodF4th3r]

That annoying repeated recommendation thing is the same thing that happened to me with “They Not Like Us” by Kendrick Lamar 😭😭😭

[@Jane-oz7pp]

tbf that song fucks

[@WCS_GodF4th3r]

@@Jane-oz7pp I personally like it but it got really old really fast

[@scubasteve6175]

⁠@@Jane-oz7ppyeah it was cool for a few days but everyone's heard it fifty times by now

[@alexknox814]

@@WCS_GodF4th3r at least it wasn't recommending drake that's a good algorithm in my books.

[@c3jams]

I'm a musician myself & I understand the frustration. But I'm also in IT. My guess is that one of the main reasons for the price increase is the infrastructure it needs to store data. Imagine the massive amounts of data Spotify needs to store, the cooling system a data center needs, employees to maintain them, the redundancy it needs & if they need another location to add more data centers, which they have to pay for that building or land or whatever. Big data is insane & now they are relying on Google Cloud for that as well.

[@Jane-oz7pp]

But that's not what the company explicitly told us the price increase is for. You make a great point, _if it wasn't wrong_

[@s4intgermain]

i'm working at music industry and i can tell that all dsps accept the same amount of releases. like 1 release goes everywhere you can imagine. therefore apple and spotify have the same amount of releases, but apple didn't increase the price for "extending their data servers"

[@c3jams]

@@s4intgermain True. But you also have to consider the Enterprise value. Apple is close to 4 Trillion USD

[@s4intgermain]

@@c3jams yeah, sorry my bad. forgotten about this. as I've understood tidal didn't raise the price recently, i think they can be a better comparison here

[@c3jams]

@@s4intgermain Yea. I myself would of course prefer if they didn't increase the price just yet, or at least be very specific and more transparent.

[@Jaetheeintrovert]

I’m conflicted with Spotify being problematic. I only like Spotify because it doesn’t delete my playlists if I was to stop paying for my subscription. Apple Music pisses me off when they do that 😤 & it’s frustrating because when I play radio I feel like Spotify exposes me to more artists while Apple Music be putting the mainstream music artists paid Apple to promote 😤

[@KTSpeedruns]

Here's a thought: buy the music, keep REAL offline copies on your local storage, and then YOU will be in control of your playlists.

[@Jaetheeintrovert]

@@KTSpeedruns that’s a cute idea but I don’t have $200+ to spend on single songs. I do plan on going to concerts to support artists for sure but buying every single song isn’t realistic for me

[@barrondaly5803]

There's a few services that'll let you port Spotify playlists over to KZbin! That's what I do and then I use Bandcamp to find new artists and add them to KZbin playlists!

[@waggshore3777]

YT music is a good middle ground. They pay more than double per stream compared to Spotify, your playlists never disappear, their free model still allows for you to play specific songs unlike Spotify, and if you go premium it's the same price as Spotify premium while giving you both the music benefits and the video benefits to boot

[@joanna1759]

Look at Tidal :)

[@Frilled.jellyfishcookiefan]

Their downfall has already started, imagine they make you have a limit for how many songs you can listen to bro ONG I’m not paying to listen to my mitski and cat millionaires

[@_FLWRS]

They’re heart checkin people right now and it’s time to do it back

[@cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245]

We the people need to bring back boycotting. Or pull a “cancel culture” on big corporations, for the Z’s. Seems to be a forgotten form of peaceful protest. Buy physical media from your local but sell trade. Support local business.

[@lolcathost]

Fsociety

[@VinnieDangerous]

Streaming has outstayed their welcome in general. We should go back to buying albums. We’re already listening to the same few artists and albums so why not buy those albums ?

[@liamwithaspace]

As a whole, I'd say you're right, but I personally listen to a lot of different artists, genres, and songs. I really miss owning my music though, so recently, I've been backing up my music digitally and buckling down on my vinyl collection.

[@_FLWRS]

What he said!

[@esmooth919]

​@@liamwithaspaceSame. I still go out and buy CDs, be they physically or digitally.

[@_FLWRS]

@@liamwithaspace I think about it likes this. I love all the artists I listen to and I don’t want there to be a possibility of being price out of my library. With streaming that can be a very real possibility

[@arko9151]

I would but things like record players cost so muchh

[@connorcornejo1002]

Damn I'm going back to pirating 💀

[@_FLWRS]

💀💀

[@Generizzy]

Never left

[@davidaugustofc2574]

I started using it this year, great service for a few donations to help them out.

[@davidaugustofc2574]

My other reply is visible if I sort by newest but not in the top comments

[@kyzzxyx]

fr though 😭😭 im gonna go back to burning cds

[@phonographzerophono8143]

Love that you made this video. There really needs to be more discussion about the place these apps and devices have in our lives. You can't beat the convenience of smartphones and subscription services, but just because one singular app/device can 'do everything' doesn't necessarily mean that it should. One of the major sacrifices you make for ultraconvenience is intentionality and deliberateness. Whether you realize it or not, you will inevitably become less engaged with whatever you're doing when it takes virtually no effort to do. A year ago I cancelled Spotify, bought a refurbished ipod, and rebuilt my MP3 collection. It wasn't until then that I realized just how much damage that app had done to the way I consumed music. I had almost entirely forgotten about some of the niche indie artists I used to love simply because their careers in music ended before Spotify launched and nobody was advocating to get them on the platform. I wasn't following my favorite bands for new releases because I was relying on Spotify to notify me of new drops. I wasn't making playlists because I was relying on their curated daily mixes. I wasn't listening to full albums or even 99% songs I had saved because I was just living in my Recently Added tab. Shit is completely different now. I fell back in love with so much of my old catalogue just through the process of this project. So if you're subscribed to Spotify Premium and on the fence about going back to MP3's (or even thinking about collecting them for the first time), I won't tell you what the best choice is for your situation, but I do want you to ask yourself this: Is Spotify actually providing you with tools to cultivate your passion for music? Or are you paying a company for the convenience of being able to think less about how you access and engage with art that you love?

[@Fyre0]

What are you using with the refurbised ipod? Itunes? Something else? Are you just... buying the albums/songs off Itunes? I'm ready to jump ship from spotify and started researching upgraded/modified ipod classics. Just not sure where I'd get my mp3s from as the itunes app is GARBAGE on windows now.

[@esmooth919]

6:46 🖐🏿 ...and because I stay collecting music, i stay using the shuffel button, simply because I like *_variety._*

[@ウォーカークリス]

They lowkey ruin so many songs for me just by playing them over and over again it kinda hurts the artist

[@home-818]

I switched to spotify late last year and my spotify wrap was super suspicious. It had artist in my top that had zero songs in my most played. One being Drake

[@jmsl_910]

same ariana grande & olivia R i skip their songs EVERY TIME

[@theEarthmanJones]

Dude the Walkman era with the huge zip up cd book was the best. When I got my first cd player with anti-skip I was so stoked to go skate while listening to music. Game changer lol

[@_FLWRS]

With those curves headphones everyone had lol

[@ambiarock590]

I started buying CDs and I have a zip up CD book and iPods to crap with music. Way better than streaming IMO

[@esmooth919]

This is why Bandcamp wins.

[@_FLWRS]

💯

[@Jane-oz7pp]

Always buy my faves' albums on bandcamp tbh, also my go-to for small artist's merch

[@thetechfromheaven]

soundcloud 💀

[@fab555trainspottingandmore]

We all go back to buying CD's and supporting our favorite artist for real. CD's also have a way better sound quality without compression and monthly paywall. Fu** moneygreedy Streaming services

[@dreamsi]

Yes to this. I’m an artist and I mix and master my own songs and it’s so frustrating how much the quality is lost on Spotify. Soundcloud and Apple Music support much higher quality and CDs can have the top quality possible if you rip the HD WAVs. I am getting an old ipod or mp3 player and doing this from now on too. I’m so fed up of these big companies stealing from artists and customers and bad quality music and adverts. I just want my money to go to the artists directly! Not to a huge company so they can just not pay the artists I wanna support 😂

[@rtothec1234]

I’ll cancel Netflix first before Spotify. Got too many playlists going. 😅

[@_FLWRS]

I feel you 🤣

[@garlikbred6474]

Spotify's getting really annoying, but i could not recreate all of my 300 songs, 6-hour playlists on another platform

[@ambiarock590]

@@garlikbred6474 I mean, you can. Soundiiz lets you convert playlists from platform to platform

[@kathk94]

Have gone back to buying CDs & haven't looked back regarding streaming services. Thank God physical media still exists regarding music, you own the music & it supports artists more.

[@RobertQuant]

Yes cds 💿 forever better sound quality u only pay once and support the artist 🧑‍🎨 💿💿📀📀📀🎶🎶🤣

[@probablyjordan8020]

I’m going back to Apple Music and CDs. Curse new cars for not having a CD player 😒

[@fab555trainspottingandmore]

Maybe they will bring back CD Players when more and more people buy CD's again because they are so much better. If you buy a CD you support your artist and you own it and don't need to stick them your money in their a** every month

[@asimmons6936]

Not sure how old your car is but…3mm jack aux out to a portable cd player (the ones with a “line out” will sound better but a headphone jack works too). Power with batteries or, if “car ready” you can get a cigarette lighter power connection. It’s crazy seeing people talk about this old stuff. Crazier that I can use it…

[@RobertQuant]

@@fab555trainspottingandmoreI’ve been saying that for a long time but cds 💿 and records people 💿💿💿🤣📀📀👍👍👍support ur favorite artist let streaming go to hell 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

[@dilpickle491]

I have an 07 RAV4 and stole a 6 cd changing radio from the wreckers. Swapped out the stock one for the "new" one and worked immediately. Now I can pick 6 albums to cycle through until I want to switch them out! Also has an aux port and Bluetooth hands-free and a Bluetooth receiver plugged into the aux port for when I just want to use my phone for music

[@ramtailthebattlertr2066]

I've been releasing music for 4 and a half years, and I only broke $75 on spotify last month

[@_FLWRS]

Congratulations on 4 years! I didn’t last that long

[@GermanCarGuyMN]

The thing I hate about Spotify is that it’s basically unusable without paying for premium

[@jackie.dee.01]

Mod it

[@justanotherpxrson]

Let me just say there are solutions

[@sebas1111_]

Guess what, buddy. Nothing is free in life. How much do you think producing an album costs to musicians? And you want it all for free?

[@justanotherpxrson]

@@sebas1111_ You are acting like spotify actually pays artists fairly

[@LakeofCrystalclan]

@@sebas1111_How does the boot taste? Also, there are companies that offer similar services for way better prices and perks.

[@fyefmofficial]

I'm 15 but i can still remember using a cd binder that was stored in my mom's car glovebox to play albums that i liked at the time. honestly physical is the way to go since the artist gets more money compared to streaming, AND you pay maybe 10 dollars to have an album forever. if not using cds i say actually buy an album on itunes or something. this should be the new trend.

[@dreamsi]

Yes to this ^

[@prajwalpalphade]

I got a Spotify ad while watching this video 😂😂

[@_FLWRS]

They’re on to us

[@prajwalpalphade]

@@_FLWRS thanks for the heart man .I appreciate it

[@konLVdon]

Spotify never fails to advertise to people who already use their product

[@sk11111-i]

me too😂😂

[@TURBOMIKEIFY]

I have like 8000 songs saved/liked. Been using Spotify since 2012 probably. While I listen to playlists I make that have about 300+ songs, I seldom hear the entire thing. Sad they doin us like this. Guess I’ll start getting actual CD’s and use Spotify to find new artists on the free. But, easier said than done. Been using the app for 12 years.

[@minuscaps]

I listened to Sabrina Carpenters Espresso twice, once when it was released, and another a few days later at a party, and it landed in my on repeat 🤔

[@DSHK-wb5cn]

I never quit pirating because i saw this coming when spotify first came out

[@Artorthegreat]

I feel like if they said that they're raising the price to pay artists better almost nobody would be complaining. We don't want more features we just want a good shuffle and the musicians to get paid

[@SharpWitted]

TRUE STORY ! I also downloaded the little Bow Wow versus little Romeo battle when I was 12 but it turned out to be a Spice Girls track talking about "Tell me what you want, What you really really want"... say what you want but since I discovered that song shits been playing on my in my head since the last year of the 1900s

[@home-818]

😂😂😂

[@eosthartist8182]

Man we should all just go back to vinyl and CDs tbh

[@RobertQuant]

Old school is better than streaming cds 💿 better sound quality u own the full albums and listening to music 🎶 on physical media was always better 💿💿📀💿💿👍

[@Emancipatriot]

Who you choose is subjective, but I personally I am very happy having KZbin premium. The fact that KZbin music included, just as like a bonus, still has the largest catalog of music I have came across. I know there was some point where I couldn’t find a song on YTM but found it on Spotify… but it really couldn’t be more than once or twice. Ever. I personally watch KZbin more than any type of tv or film. It’s a no brainer for me. I also want to add, the algorithm for playlists on YTM is pretty good. I’ve discover quite a bit with it. Like I used to do with pandora.

[@happyhamsters6459]

I bought Illmatic on CD to listen to yesterday, and I still use my iPod video, goated device

[@musiqmark]

I Seen Illmatic At My Local Barnes & Nobel A Couple Weeks Ago But I Ended Up Buying Curtain Call 1 😬

[@alexsapegin7289]

I use an unactivated prepaid phone with a large microSD card as an MP3/audiobook player.

[@jouhajohnny]

Man I hated the spotify shuffle so much 😭 It was one of the biggest reason why I switched to Apple Music

[@lolzu]

Nodded violently to this video throughout the entire run-time. It is so much more beneficial to just have an mp3 player, I got one myself and its the best investment of tech I've ever done. Battery lasts for an entire week. Charge only takes a few hours. The frame rate is literally powerpoint slide level, but literally all I need is the music. Asides from my mp3 player, my alternate to Spotify... as I have android... is simply to.... sail the seven seas for a "special" Spotify. My faves are barely getting paid, so you're very correct abt paying/supporting them DIRECTLY. I'm so glad more people are realising that companies like Spotify are so predatory. They are constantly pushing the waters for how much they can take away from people until there's a big enough pushback, and it pisses me off. Hoping this vid is a wake-up call to some people. Long ass comment ik ik but I liked this vid and your voice was relaxing 🙏🙏

[@_FLWRS]

I appreciate you watching. Very nice compliment too

[@ItsaB3AR]

I use Apple music, I like the quality and convenience, but I still keep a full library of lossless music (CD Quality) to play on my modded iPod classics. I like to buy CDs of my favorite artists so I will always have them, and as a sort of collection. Listening on a dedicated device can have some nice advantages, my Main iPod has 1TB of SSD storage and the battery lasts over a month. When was the last time you listened to music on your phone, then found yourself scrolling an app, then watching a video? With a dedicated device you can focus on your music, really enjoy it, with no distractions or notifications interrupting it.

[@BrianDillonTucker]

I’ve never felt the need to subscribe to any music streaming service. I follow and discover artists on KZbin for free and purchase their albums if I’m compelled to.

[@dreamsi]

This is what I used to do all my life until 2016 when I started paying for Spotify. They are about to lose me and I’m gonna go back to my old ways to directly support artists! ❤ I’m an artist myself and they are not paying us anything 😂

[@Cashmusic777]

Now the best music apps to use is 3-apple music 2-yt music 1-soundcloud

[@junyaiwase]

SoundCloud at 1 is diabolic

[@ellamartintsova5615]

@@junyaiwasefax tidal better

[@swim808s]

​@@junyaiwaseIf you like niche electronic music SoundCloud is #1 undisputed

[@kevinquirarte2365]

Or buy a record player

[@ednaa]

​@@kevinquirarte2365I want to but it's so expensive to collect my favorite albums😢 and what if I want to listen to something new? id just go back to online streaming lol

[@yunki_]

Great video bro! Another layer of insight I’d like to add: As a musician, discovering new music is part of the passion. There’s no better high then when I find a new song I love, or even better, an album full of bangers. The issue is, the music industry is so saturated with people trying to chart that people rarely make real albums anymore. Like, an album is a body of work. It needs a concept, a sonic image, a story. It doesn’t even have to be serious. I can appreciate an album with songs that “aren’t good enough for the chart” but put me in the artist world from start to finish. I don’t feel like going out of my way to buy an album from artist where only the singles hit and the rest is just fluff. Every single song being designed to chart makes a lot of artist work really monotonous and hard to listen to. The disappointment is immeasurable when I go on Apple Music, save an album to listen to, and the whole thing is just…. Meh. I’d be pissed if I spent money on that lol. Whether it’s a small or large artist, I hope that people refocusing on actual artistry will motivate people to buy more physical copies. Until then, I don’t really see the point.

[@charliedalencour5141]

i think as a person who makes music, streaming is terrible for discovery but it’s great for commitment. like none of my friends truly expect for us to get selected for a spotify playlist, that application is for midsized artists, but if i put my music in front of someone, i don’t have to push them to buy it. i personally hate and don’t use spotify, my streamer pays artists more, but im not dedicated to any of these brands lol. i think there needs to be more pressure on all of these companies to pay artists more, bcos this price uptick for spotify isn’t going to musicians at all, it’s to add their audiobooks (and pay those people terribly too lmao). if major musicians went on strike/protests for streaming to pay more i think we’d see real progress

[@RobertQuant]

Naww that will never happen let’s force people to go ba m to buying cds 💿 and stick with physical media 🤣🤣🤣🙏🙏🙏📀📀💿🎶🎶🎶

[@scopetag]

Yeah, switching to TIDAL was the best decision I made to overcome Spotify's BS. Especially artist payment.

[@HEELEO]

I bout a CD a month ago, I'd buy more if they were sold by small indie groups

[@CrownedxKay]

Thanks for shining light on this, FLWRS you're doin the Lord's work! 🙌🏾🙌🏾

[@_FLWRS]

I appreciate that!

[@ryan_3113]

People are starting to wake up to corporate greed

[@WaltTree]

This is why we purchase our media and not use crappy streaming services!

[@2120musiclover]

What i liked about Spotify was the ability to make playlists that blend one song into the next. I might have to change to Apple Music. Fuck Spotify.

[@user-eu5ol7mx8y]

That's true, back when we listened from CDs it was a much more deeper experience. You bought the CD and you listened to it from start to finish, appreciating it deeper with less distraction.

[@jacobsilguero6169]

I got 2, 160gb iPods. I still buy a few songs at a time and possibly find the actual full CD and port them on those iPods, and those songs are there for me to listen to whenever and without any sound streaming issues. So long as the iPods are still working, I’ll still be rocking theme 👍🏼

[@Fyre0]

I've been looking into upgraded/modified ipod classics to re-build my mp3 collection offline. Are you using them with iTunes? Are you buying files from elsewhere? I ask because the iTunes app on windows is ATROCIOUS and it's really turned me off from this route.

[@jacobsilguero6169]

@@Fyre0 so ya. I do use the windows iTunes and it’s not very good. How ever a good work around is if you’re iTunes on windows is atleast linked with your Apple ID to purchase music. I tend to use my phone (because it’s an iPhone) to purchase music from iTunes and the song will pop up on my iTunes on my windows laptop pretty quick after purchase, and I’m able to move the music to my iPods no problem. Hopefully that helps you.

[@cas05005]

Still using my iPod Classic from 2004 and, yes, CDs. The iPod is upgraded for today’s purposes, but I’m still ripping and syncing music because the idea of ‘renting’ music in addition to already renting movies (Netflix, Hulu, etc.), just seems wrong. I’m old school though.

[@GoogleAccount-kw1mz]

I prefer having the wav files of songs - either by audacity or other programs. KZbin and other streaming platforms normalize their audio to -14 Lufs. I’m an audio engineer so I like to have the original master for references or whatever. Anyways, I have +2000 songs all saved for offline listening or shuffling - never have to use any streaming platforms unless I’m ripping or downloading 😅 Edited to say that media players have sd cards now, it is pretty much like a lil movie/music device now.

[@_FLWRS]

Being an engineer is a curse sometimes. You hear EVERYTHING

[@SemekiIzuio]

What media players are you talking about phones?

[@marifig7201]

​​@@SemekiIzuio Sony NW-A306 Digital Media Player an affordable and awesome option

[@patchacuti7338]

@@SemekiIzuio He's talking about devices designed to play a variety of media. Think an mp3 player but mp3 is just one file type. media players can play just about anything, .flac, .wav, .aif .dsd .mp4 .ogg etc. They are also usually a lot higher quality too. If you want an example look at the sony walkman NW-A306. I personally use the Shanling M0 Pro, it is like a modern ipod shuffle.

[@schreiber9864]

I for one switched from CDs to buying songs on iTunes. It gives me that sense of having my own personal music library, a carefully curated collection of auditory gems. My media products belong to me and no-one can take them away from me. Never bought into the streaming craze.

[@guevara7E]

Man!! This video dropped at the right time for me. In the last couple of weeks, I've picked up a cheap little mp3 player and downloaded some cds. That got me questioning paying for Spotify. Yeah its convinient but I've been listening to the same music most of the time, and most of the new music I've discovered has been through KZbin videos and rarely through Spotify. Since then, I've been on the hunt for an iPod to modify its storage, and cds from artists I mostly listen to. Awesome video, man. You bring up really good points. I didn't even know about how Spotify fucked over its customers with the car thing. That's really bad business practice.

[@michalathompson3979]

I bought Nao's Saturn CD a few days ago but i been slowly building up my cd and dvd collection cause I want to be able to listen to my songs and watching my shows whenever without worrying if they taking it off the streaming services

[@Caesar_Online]

Great video, bringing back the iPod/mp3 players is a great idea! Would really recommend owning music directly rather than streaming it as an artist too as I've made more from a few people directly buying my discography on Bandcamp than I have from thousands of streams.

[@2120musiclover]

I never thought streaming numbers were impressive for exactly why you said. In the days of people buying physical media it was waaaay more impressive and I STILL hold those numbers as the main ones because you had to take yourself to a store and use your 10-20 dollars to buy the cd. Or order it online and wait for it to get to you.

[@RobertQuant]

Yes buying cds 💿 is the best way to listen to music and u get bonus tracks lyrics and booklets something Streaming will never offer

[@Artists_wrld]

I was with Spotify for many years, changed to Apple Music a few years back and loved it. Now I use KZbin premium and I love it

[@Jala_haru]

I remember getting my music recommendations from compilations on Limewire and on Piratesbay. When I found songs that I liked….I would buy the entire album out of respect for the artist. I miss those days

[@MXALOVE]

Apple can afford a low price to their subscriptions. They could absolutely murk Spotify right now if they lowered the price back to 9.99$

[@johnchedsey1306]

I'm kinda old (Gen X) and somewhere around 2001 I started digitizing my music collection. And I had a LOT of CDs back then. Let's just say that by the time Spotify came around, my digitized collection plus decent portable MP3 players meant I really had no interest in streaming. Plus my tastes are just obscure enough that I wasn't finding artists I was curious about. So I've never actually paid a penny to Spotify in my life. And as it turns out, it's not like many pennies would go to any of the obscure artists on that platform. These days I either get something I really want via Bandcamp (because they offer FLAC files), or if I see a band live, I usually leave with a shirt and/or CD (which yes, I'll digitize). Plus there's still Jolly Roger methods for finding FLAC files of sorely out of print albums that never made it to streaming. This is a long way of saying Spotify seems lackluster and just a corporation leeching money away from the people who actually made the products Spotify sells.

[@MayaLove777]

Some things I do like about Spotify is the different playlists & the Blend feature

[@fyrebrandmetal]

Yah, as an artist with some heroes that have made it on Spotify and streaming in general, I've really tried to play the game and get a semblance of that traction on that platform. Then, one quarter after another, the goal post keep getting moved (e.g. No payment on 1000> streams, paywall for lyrics, higher paywall for ads, feeding our music to AI without our consent, shutting down artist's music for supposedly fake streams even thought they could easily go after the fake accounts themselves, etc.) Years of compounding frustration has made it to where I have bitter taste in my mouth for even using Spotify as a consumer. I'm trying to get in the habit of using Bandcamp as a consumer and pushing that more as an artist. Lots of people say, "Well it's still possible to make bank from Spotify because tons of other artists have." To which I say, "Yes, just like it's possible to still win a soccer game when the other team moves the goal when you kick. Eventually, you can learn to adjust to the unfair tactic the other team uses, but why would you want to do that to begin with?"

[@JimNoBoDie]

The music industry at large doesn't want small artists to be seen. Then everyone would realize how little we need the old ways. As a musician, Bandcamp is pretty cool.

[@safaros38]

Ive been collecting some music to move away from Spotify and holly shit in a single week i’ve discovered so much music and new genres and the quality is so insanely good. When i was little i used to be a music lover and loved just finding new music hadn’t realized i lost that with spotify. Trust me just get a collection of music fuck all this algorithm bs. I also noticed the compression really makes me not like some songs that after listening to album versions are fucking beautiful.

[@KazumaSatouReal]

Thank god i didn't waste a single cent on spotify premium

[@NostalgiaandChaos]

I recently bought a second gen iPod Mini. Used to have a second gen Nano, but I wanted something I could upgrade, so I replaced the hard drive with a 512G SSD, replaced the battery with a larger capacity battery, and I've got my sweet Sony XM5 headphones that can still do wired connection. My plan is to explore albums and genres that I haven't really tapped into before, and stuff I've never really taken the time to appreciate. I'm still paying for my family's Spotify accounts, but recently a SECOND one of my top 10 songs of all time was removed from Spotify, so I'm getting charged more for a worse service. With an iPod and ownership of those songs, that won't happen. If I can move anyone else off it and reduce our streaming (since video streaming services are going through some nice enshitification as well), I would be pretty happy.

[@faith-o8w3j]

Man I get so excited everything you post. Love it! Keep going!!

[@_FLWRS]

I appreciate that for real. Glad you like the videos

[@matthiewbaker7249]

You also didn't mention how almost every streaming service uses a MP3 format. CDS and often times digital downloads, will us a lossless format such as .WAV. This means that there is more data output for your music using CDs compared to Spotify. I recently started collecting CDs and after hearing the difference, it is hard to listen to the same track again on Spotify because it just doesn't hit the same. Not to mention all the other album art that you get in the sleeve and case when you purchase a physical copy of an album. streaming services do still have their uses as if you use them properly, you can still discover new artists which is why I use it, but I would prefer to not listen to my favorite artists using a streaming platform as it is inferior to CD, Vinyl or digital download.

[@Alexzavage]

I think KZbin music with KZbin subscription is convenient

[@wuiss__._]

I myself buy the albums of some artists, they are still relatively cheap around 10€, i think the biggest wall to climb is that nowadays hi-fi systems are rare to find and today cars dont come with cd players anymore, wich sucks, fortunately, there is still radio and thats a way to experience music without spotify (depends on your country, i live in one with nice radio) but yeah that my two cents about this subject

[@LazKnockerzYourRageLaz]

That's why I do FREE Trail cuz I'll Never Pay for a Damn Thing 😂

[@ragnevi]

How hard is it to switch to Apple Music or Tidal?

[@erichill414]

It isn’t too bad. There are apps and services that can switch all your songs over.

[@memcore1312]

pirate and buy merch instead 🙏

[@Star_squirrel]

Or buy

[@SemekiIzuio]

​@@Star_squirrelor both

[@Star_squirrel]

@@SemekiIzuio yes

[@littleoreoofficial8022]

i’ve been done with Spotify for a while now. immediately switched to apple music and am even using more physical media.

[@JohnAsuncion666]

since they upped it to 10.99 I cancelled and decided to buy albums instead which is ironically cheaper and mine for life, I've been buying an album or two per month, been spending the same or close to it, and have my music for life, spotify can eat it

[@hazey_dazey]

I listen to spotify A LOT so i can deal with the price increase (for now), but i've also been slowly expanding my cd collection and looking into getting music players. And i use my laptop to download the songs from cds to put on a music player so it's a 2-in-1 solution.

[@LilBreighBreigh]

Had to be said, thanks for making this vid!

[@_FLWRS]

Thanks for watching

[@dominicpascal5512]

Canceled Spotify and got an iPod again. BEST DECISION! It also helped cut my daily phone usage below an hour.

[@refraysmusic]

Why even use Spotify when everything is on YT

[@swervysage03]

Apps like spotify and pandora have better audio quality. KZbin is pretty flat in comparison and as someone who writes music, i prefer to hear every little sound and all of the depth of the low end.

[@luisa146]

I don't want the video and waste data and battery life, I just want the song

[@RobertQuant]

@@swervysage03that’s Capps cds 💿 have better sound quality that streaming period 👍👍👍📀📀📀💿💿💿🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️😂🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️😂

[@basicallymid]

I'm not defending Spotify, but I am wholly dependent on it. I grew up on walkmans, mp3s, and radio. I shudder at the idea of going back, honestly. Maybe I'll check it Tidal...

[@grimey78]

i could never get into spotify i much prefer apple music because spotify treats its music like fast food like why is it hard to find my downloaded albums

[@ilikenicethings]

I have had a different experience with Spotify from the opinions on this video. I often am suggested music that I haven’t been aware of by relatively minor artists. I don’t regularly listen to the same music and don’t seek out the most popular stuff. I seek very particular styles of music that vary depending on my mood and I get tired of listening to the same stuff on repeat as you say in this video. That said, another price increase is depressing and makes me consider cutting back and using KZbin music exclusively instead as I have a subscription to that to avoid getting KZbin Ads.

[@matttyce903]

I really dislike spotify doesnt have FLAC audio, qobuz does for example but their interface is very annoying and Apple is fake high res

[@MINI_JOHNS]

I have spotify premium student edition, but I still collect vinyls and cds. I do think streaming serviced should be paying more but what other alternatives are there nowadays? Vinyls are super expensive, cd prices are also kinda high.

[@spacecowboygrim]

I use Apple Music and Spotify. I got Spotify for free due to a fitness plan I’m on so the price doesn’t bother me too much. I like Spotify for the playlists but I agree, as an aspiring artist, that the pay is ridiculous. That’s why I use Apple Music to stream the musician or support them in any way financially when I find an artist I like! I hope everyone who uses Spotify buys the artist’s merch or support them on Patreon as music is a really hard career to put food on your plate!

[@gsst6389]

Then if its a hard career, then simply just don’t do it. 😮

[@spacecowboygrim]

@@gsst6389 And what if it’s something I enjoy? Get your privilege in check and think of others, thanks ☺️☺️ Without the people making the sacrifice to make music, you wouldn’t have your beloved music!

[@gsst6389]

@@spacecowboygrim hum yes i would still have my music, since them fuckers are still gonna make it since they enlloy it and the manager’s still making that bag 😂

[@gsst6389]

@@spacecowboygrim Thinking of others? When that did ever help anything and your thanking me for saying whats real? Lmao 😂, okay bud. Mmh i enlloy a lot of things, wish is why i peruse whats can get me the ability to enlloy them things.

[@spacecowboygrim]

@@gsst6389 Then why are you saying that I shouldn’t do it because it’s hard?? Make it make sense

[@ArcticFFox]

A bit late to this train but here goes. I switched from Spotify when they initially had the price increase for subscriptions. I realised that youtube premium with yt music was cheaper. Then later when I could no longer afford that either I realised that yt music alone is even cheaper, roughly the same price as whar spotify was when I first started using that. I REALLY doubt I'll go back to spotify now, it's either the current arrangement or back to downloading songs to my phone.

[@Kudanzombe]

Might as well just switch to apple music at this point