BIGGEST Winners & Losers! Shadow Flame Pokemon Unite Patch

[@BurnAxe_Editz]

4:42 *Sad Garchomp noises*

[@BurnAxe_Editz]

Finally we can get a whole bird team Talon, deci, cramo, dodrio, ho oh

[@d-chudasama]

Blazikan

[@Wasser_Saft]

@@d-chudasama I dont thing he is a bird, sure torchick is but I don't see an argument on why blaziken is a bird.

[@indrajeetmitra9989]

​@@Wasser_Saftremind me of that one time when an animal OTHER than a bird had talons

[@Wasser_Saft]

@@indrajeetmitra9989 sure, around 75BC velociraptors existed, they were reptiles with talons. now can you remind of that one time a bird didnt have feathers and wings?

[@theunsuspectingbagel4373]

Penguins? ​@@Wasser_Saft

[@BlazeDZL]

1:03 talon flame gave a genuine thanks ping

[@codyouellette6936]

It has been 18 patches over 13 months since Sableye received any updates. We stand in solidarity with the Zeraora mains

[@Cynxcally]

congrats for timi actually making the high skill Pokémon (speedsters) no longer high skill, but more of a high skill-input for the same damage as the point and leave delphox and charizard :)

[@joegamergaming]

Classic Timi

[@Tagl.]

Tsareena needs that unite buff as well. Though for me, the problem is orange ping cancelling my unite.

[@SaritaSharma-xm9eg]

Idk the prblm but my game freeze in between after update

[@alexriggs1110]

Biggest loser is Char because the special effects for the new battlepass skin is being sold separately in the prize machine☠️

[@giantchezzyboi1663]

No the biggest losers are the people who buy it and then realize they gotta do the prize machine

[@GunmarTheBlack]

The biggest Losers are the ones that use the prize machine to begin with

[@vanXtas]

What do you mean?? Char will have effects on his bp skin

[@giantchezzyboi1663]

@@GunmarTheBlack Fr

[@jakiru8783]

Yes, more changes to passives would be great! Excited for Watershifu but if for some reason its too strong again then they should instead look at shifting around some of its power, making it a level 6 but buffing Rock Smash to be an actual secure move. If needed they could make Headbutt a 7-second cooldown and slightly tune up some Cubfu stats.

[@GaboBaltuano]

I know i won because i clicked the video super fast 🏃🏻‍♂️

[@mcfitrusse]

Right choice

[@CLOUDS-tm2vj]

prolly the only 'first' comment that's not super cringe

[@lilithofthevoid4922]

Biggest loser is Dodrio's 3 hats

[@Im_VR_mashu]

13:13 ''I'm still a psycho cut believer'' Me: me too😂

[@sunsetter4940]

The gyrados and pikachu riding Lapras the winners here. The three of them on a sparkling lake trip.

[@crispygum4706]

Tsareena unite move needs the Charizard treatment too,but who knows when she'll get battle pass😮‍💨

[@particlemane3359]

The biggest loser is us. No new map, no new emblems, huge nerfs to survivability, we are the clear losers of this patch.

[@ajrupert5639]

Would absolutely LOVE and EX support. EX damage is so boring, "greeeaat another stupidly strong damage ex" is so boring. Ho-oh is in the right direction, but I want to see a support

[@nicolomanfrini8671]

God no please. Every time they release a supporter they make unbelievably stupid things like hoopa and comfey, I don't even want to imagine what an EX support could do. Probably a map wide healing ult or some bullshit like that. No thank you, I'll take damage ex mons lol

[@ajrupert5639]

@@nicolomanfrini8671 gotta give it to me unbelievably stupid is more interesting than just another OP damage mon though lol

[@nicolomanfrini8671]

@@ajrupert5639 more interesting sure, better for the game? Hell no. It's a fighting game, let us fight lol

[@ajrupert5639]

@nicolomanfrini8671 I mean, because Mewtwo was soooo good for the game lol. Also support is an integral part of mobas

[@ajrupert5639]

Although, if box legendaries are the only mons that qualify for EX, I don't really see a support option

[@Belesprit656]

I really wanted to see an Urshifu Unite move buff, the liquidation buff was odd. Although the surging strike buff is great.

[@lsnorlax9653]

Cramorant was definitely very strong lol. But the duck should definitely be in the winner tier temporarily. Dive gets INVINCIBILITY as a bug and good thing they’re addressing this

[@ayncell0]

It's theorized that I might not be a bug. Dive has a new icon when underwater which leads some to suspect that the change was intended after all.

[@lsnorlax9653]

@@ayncell0 no they literally addressed that already lmao

[@ayncell0]

@@lsnorlax9653 they did? Is it in their list of hot fixes? If so, I haven't seen it. There's a game breaking falinks bug rn and they probably looped that in there. Thanks for the information, I'll try to find it.

[@lsnorlax9653]

@@ayncell0 Nope, not that one. It was just fixed today and the announcement was after the patch yesterday

[@lsnorlax9653]

@@ayncell0 It’s on twt btw

[@Latar_Belakang™]

Losing streak from 1481st rank down to 1477th, maybe I need a 24-10hr break for this

[@Ind_u.]

3:30 yeah this nerf was bullshit.

[@viva3401]

Tri Attack has consistently been a top 3 winrate pokemon for most of this year, just saying. It's not necessarily overpowered, but definitely consistently powerful

[@Kangarooannihilater]

​@@viva3401hes talking abt cram

[@SaltymanGaming]

Pikachu is definitely one of the biggest winners of this patch. 0.5 seconds may not seem like a ton but because of the way Thunder and Thunderbolt work it gives you a lot more uptime on your moves. Thunder last 2.5 seconds and starts recharging immediately and Thunderbolt has a massive 1.25 second stun.. your Thunder is literally active more than half the time at high levels. If the changes to damage numbers in bushes in permanent that's also another huge buff to Thunder Pikachu. I've been getting around 100K damage pretty consistently and actually running Exp Share in some of those games.

[@lsnorlax9653]

Charizard’s unite is now literally stronger than Slowbro’s. Hot take? Flaming hot maybe

[@Lashrom]

Imagine if it does minor damage aswell to the rest of the opponent teammates around when landing on the ground. It would be one of the best unite move.

[@Tan8ous]

@@Lashromit seems to, stood under it landing one time and got ko’d could of been coincidence however I doubt it

[@manuelarocho8131]

Charizard ult always damaged foes underneath.

[@lsnorlax9653]

@@Lashrom If they’re close enough then yes, they will be damaged as well

[@Lashrom]

@@lsnorlax9653 @manuelarocho8131 Ah never knew that! Good to know, thanks!

[@TUNDRA80420]

Fun fact! There is a cram bug that they have yet to fix, it’s very specific, the bug basically inverts the map on your screen so that you spawn on the right side of the map, it also makes the sky, ground and obstacles completely black and it’s really hard to see where you’re going

[@jhuanex5959]

The real winner of this patch is falinks with 100k damage 130k damage supported and 120k healing. Lettsss gouuuuu

[@abra_escaped]

Beat up bug kinda crazy, good thing it's getting emergency patched

[@idunnowhatimdoin]

there have also been a lot more people playing wiggly now. I wonder if it's b/c of the bug fixes to held items or maybe they were just waiting for miraidon to get more nerfs

[@joegamergaming]

They might be practicing for the cool rollout rework on the chinese beta 👀

[@whodatchris1873]

Nah biggest loser of the patch are the players who endure thus terrible matchmaking with terrible randoms

[@OFunkYO]

get real...

[@Dylanlemay]

Charizard keeps destroying me 😢I learned about his buff the hard way

[@tyruku18]

Even my bro, who love playing Delphox hated the fact that Fire Spin got buffed. Same like Fire Blast because of the combo.

[@Jaydog8536]

I'm still mad that they didn't give Daraludon the one buff his Unite needs but then they give it to Charizard.

[@UltimateR8146]

I get that. I’m a zard main and I wanted this but if dura got a buff I would be so happy 2

[@Kaze91]

2 fire named patches and Cinder is forgotten lol. We buff fire spin before we buff Cinder. Rip.

[@X04310]

Me seeing the Delphox Fire Spin buff: Why are we still here? Just to suffer.

[@aaravsaraswat5752]

It's Wednesday in India wear pink 💕

[@randommemeaddict249]

The changes for Charizard are nuts. I've been a somewhat aggresive Slowbro main, only used Char once. I've gotten up to Ultra 4, but am not Vet 5 cause inactivity. I pick up Charizard and against other Vet 5-3 players I score 273 points, 12 KO's and 8 assists. I got a rating of 92. On my second game ever with Charizard.

[@thingsidoomed]

11:40 Proceeds to show Aqua Tail gameplay

[@GunmarTheBlack]

Im glad Mamoswine is "mid" cuz his passive got buffed recently as well as the damage for some other moves and that's the last time he's been touched, he's great to play right now especially with the rapid fire scarf for stuns

[@rjmagoo]

Jake in charge of patch changes confirmed as Timi changed passives just after he released a video about them!

[@big_axolotl_]

The biggest loser is cinderace because it is the only fire type that didn’t get buffed. It really needs feint and flame charge at level 5 to be at parity with Inteleon

[@WonderGirl9]

Playing as Char now is more fun than it used to be and Ceruledge is also great!! Now I play these 2 more compared to any other all-rounders. I also love Psycho Cut more on Ceruledge as well. Pica is much better now!!

[@IcedXD]

I've been using Charizard since the buff and may I say this buff changes EVERYTHING, before it was very very hard to play Charizard aggressively to the point of your forced to basically just being a damage support. Now Chrizard is pretty good, you can definitely make a big difference joining a fight and the Unite move is just busted like you can now easily demolish enemy hp if they're not a defender type Pokémon.

[@AquaLucario]

11:10 It's absolutely a nerf to Pro Zoroark. If you nerf other aspects of its kit to make it more balanced in High Level Play, then you make it a lot weaker in Lower Level Play. By removing that part of the kit you can give it a love tap down in high level play and see if that's enough to bring it in line. Plus. IDK. I'd rather them trim fat from a kit than nerf numbers. I know there were a lot of use cases for the illusion damage prevention, but it also made the ability less of a "Try to deceive the enemy team" button and more a defensive utility.

[@spoogtastic]

Ive played water bear after the patch and it feels GREAT. Love our bear.

[@manuelarocho8131]

Not going to lie...but this patch was nice. Mostly everyone feels nice to play now. Obviously still some better A tiers. But many feel A-C. Of course outliers like Gengar and whatnot but buffing that mon is scary. But Delphox fire spin is obnoxious now...i make it a mission to hunt fox over owl now 😂

[@Spacefrisian]

Hello Delphox my old friend. On that note, i think Timi should do the same to Tsareena's ult as they did with Charizard ult.

[@tish3551]

I feel like the Zoroark change to its passive was pretty unfair, and they really should have nerfed its damage, to be honest, but taking away Zoroark's i-frames is kinda painful because it was such a highly rewarded move for timing illusion frame perfectly. It also used to save me from almost dying e.g. perfectly timing illusion as soon as Decidueye did its final blow on its unite move. It was such a skilful and highly rewarded passive, but now I can't even dodge Char's unite move anymore nor even save myself from near death experiences. Big ouch.

[@jurassicdragon6955]

Dive cram got a secret buff or bug and its so good

[@wvanhuss4190]

Yess I was waiting for this video

[@meggings_]

also wanna add there was a quiet buff to buzzwoles leech life, it sucks faster than ever before 👀

[@Thefury388]

Machamp memorial tier

[@lu8897]

garchomp got a huge nerf since now you cannot unite in team fights if you are against a charizard or a slowbro and they are in every game👍

[@maskedfoxx7173]

If anything was to be buffed on Delphox it should have been the mystical fire flame charge build. I haven't seen anyone play that in like, what, a year now? Whenever I see anyone playing either move I assume it was a misclick at this point

[@harikumars1487]

5:57 DUDE how did you know??!! It just happened to me

[@Lily-yk6dz]

Char got giga buffed so hard im in matches now where char uses his unite Atleast 20 times per match they need to honestly increase the cd for his unite badly

[@frankpennachio2901]

Timi: Here's some Delphox buffs Every sane player: Thanks I hate it

[@0verl0rd67]

Timi also gave Cram invincibility on Dive, might or might not be intentional bc it has a new icon above him while invincible.

[@v3wizard530]

Which emblems set I must use for urshifu, 7 Black or 6 white 6 brown?

[@greenmenace9666]

White + Brown. Spragels backs Unitedb (you can search it up and it will tell you what emblems). I've watched other vids that suggest focusing hp #1 and dmg #2 while ignoring defense. It helped my early game with every Pokemon. I mean, think about it with black emblems: getting a small percentage on seconds isn't going to dramatically change fights. It's kind of a burst meta. It's rare to see extended fights.

[@lsnorlax9653]

The loser is DEFINITELY Trevanent, being hit with an ABSURD BUG which makes horn leech’s and wood hammer’s second hit’s CC nonexistent. Also is it just me or did my teammates pick up Trevanent MORE this patch?????? That’s why i lost all games with trev as my ally lol

[@greenmenace9666]

Even with that bug, I'd take tree over a lot of pokes because he's got a solid early game and later he can at least be a target. Some feel like an auto loss, like Machamp rn. That pokemon made it so hard to climb in masters. I hated how bad Machamp was every single time. And Defenders like Snorlax can't do as much dmg as tree. It's unfortunate how long of a list there is of irrelevant Pokemon rn. I like tree and Blastoise as teammates, and they're still good, but both have been hit as of late.

[@m1dn1ghtqt]

Tree deserves it he's annoying and does insane damage I hate going against him

[@TaylorV61]

cant say im excited about this patch. delphox feels fucking crazy right now

[@user-pu1kv9tw5b]

Char feels so good! this was a good buff

[@derekc2425]

Char's unite is basically a 1 second bind. So now we have 3 unites that do that.

[@sammoon7897]

Anyone else feel like Slowbro's surf now has a longer cast time? Maybe it was just lag but idk, I could've sworn it is now harder to hit with...

[@yveshku5583]

While I can understand taking away Zoroark's i-frames, it feels like an odd decision. It rewarded getting good, but now illusion I hardly think of for much noteworthy impact aside from something preplanned against unsuspecting opponents. Overall though, neat patch, I like it for the most part.

[@kingapple8389]

We are so back Urshifu bros

[@doggomemes3232]

I need the new holowear so bad.

[@Ghostmnm]

I was joking when last patch I said Pokemon was joining in yugioh’s year of fire, but seeing this, so this is why Timi hates birds, there are snake eating birds and if yugioh has snake eyes dominant, why not cut down on anything that kills snakes

[@Scottydepres]

I love the ceruledge love. His kit is so much fun

[@FaceInside]

What annoys me the most about the Zoroark change is that other characters like Mimikyu can avoid Unite moves with its passive. How is it fair for one to avoid it and the other can’t?

[@m1dn1ghtqt]

The eevees too bro they love nerfing the highly skilled mons bro and CRAMORANT for so reason?

[@tatsukinomiya]

Charizard won the patch imo, not only as a Zard Main, but the concept that I can now CHECK a Slowbro if I'm not Slow Beam!!!! After 3yrs!!!!!!

[@user-pu1kv9tw5b]

If they made aqua tail boosted unstoppable Gary would be so mean!

[@andrewsukhdeo1990]

Charizards unstoppable cancels any other unstoppable, that part is cheap like garchomp unite gets cancelled, mr mime unite gets interrupted, the only way I noticed char unite get canceled like old times was when I tried to grab ceruledge right before he went invincible with that other move he has I forget the name. I think they need to fix it where it doesn't cancel other unstoppable moves and just do the damage only like it's supposed to

[@Mavuika_Gyaru]

Ngl "shedinja doll" caught me off guard 🤣

[@PPsqueezer]

Besides buffing firespin, this patch feels to be the most reasonable in a while.

[@faniabyan]

Biggest loser is probably me when I play Zoroark night slash Most of the time I miss the illusion button and miss the combo, and ded, now it got nerfed then I might will go ded more than I did pre nerf

[@raizen4597]

The loser of this anniversary are all unite players. Literally the worst developers in the entire world, i played many games and most of them become way better after the 3rd anniversary mark. 1) balance patch what that do? Give a reason to buy new hollowers even the reason about the buffs are dum. 2) New map? We dont even know if it is permanent or they gonna implent a rotation map during ranked games... but looking at the actual state of the game seems wouldnt change anything 3) Free licenses, that doesnt do anything because you can get gold so easy that doesnt even matter (one of them is charizard a pokemon that was free already in the past and most of us already have it). 4) free hollower? I mean is nice but doesnt make you want to play the game more or give a reason to it. The reality they want you to play the game in this small period make money of it (if possible) and make numbers during worlds after that would be the same game as we know. This game suffer from knowledge and vision by your team mates and enemy and they didnt do anything about it (unbalamced team from both sides), no guides on roles, no guides on playstyle from some pokemons, no advance guides about objective (like ray and regi). If you playing with terrible team mates in a team based game, doesnt matter what patch or what broken pokemon would come, you sit there wasting 10 minutes suffering to play the game and yes, shocking most of unite players play solo anyway... A game should be fun not frustrating and half of times feel like that and isnt ok and they dont even make easier to play for that people that play solo. I dont blame matchmaking if the developers didnt do a great job on explaining how to play their game. I spent money into the game to support their job and they dont even invest it to make the game better or different at all. It feel the same thing over and over. The thing it piss me off they dont even TRY to make something because they dont want to waste money because people could not like it but at least try it. Just looking the chinese version it piss me off even more because they didnt do anything at all for 3 YEARS!! 3 YEARS IS A LOT MAN. So many new idea, even the ranked mode feels so cool. I lost interest to this game because of the developers dont doing their job and give the heart on this game and is really sad because this game is actually cool man. If they dont do it on the anniversary the when? Its so sad a pokemon game dedicated for all ages of people has to be a tool only to make money, is horrible and a shame behavior. The coolest part about unite are the legendary hollower and they all behind wallet/money. You cant even grind for them not even the ones that no one buys it. They dont give you a reason to play the game. Rewards are terrible and not worth the time you invest. At this point i rather playing another game. Hopefully they would do something to change things (COPIUM) for all the loyal unite players that have the patience to keep playing it with this terrible developers. Good luck to all of you ❤

[@jtdesverdad]

Trie attack dodrio was broken. They need to give dostio some stun immunity in his passive.

[@m1dn1ghtqt]

No he was never broken bro

[@Goldenfire49]

Spragles: Defenders are doing great right now! Lapras: What? Am I invisible now?

[@dimensionsazuma32]

Lapras can be squishy to Cinderace pyro ball, Charizard's flamethrower and finally ceruledge

[@Goldenfire49]

@@dimensionsazuma32 And that is exactly the point I was making lol.

[@abduraghmaanariefdien4522]

Anyone else think Cerulge and Charizard just got more annoying....

[@dark-phoenix4426]

The falinks bug is game breaking it heals fully when it is down to 10% Hp

[@STRIKER-94]

Shadow flame literally what a cool name for this patch 💙❤️💙

[@boxohscladljadjofwownxosnxREAL]

as a zoro main, I hate the nerfs

[@pkmnunite3283]

If you buff Zeraora, I will cook so crazily with it. I'm already a 53% win rate with spark wild charge.

[@eds7343]

Slowbro was always able to cancel Slowbro Slowbeam so now there's two who can cancel Slowbros Unite

[@yeeyang7740]

charizard shouldnt be able to pick up full heal, slowbro unite move idk how they will work this, but using full heal is to out play opponent's stuns/CC and slowbros unite is literally to shut down a pokemon, which has a long cooldown charge and is on a defender which is their job to

[@SealiosWasTakenSomehow]

I came back to unite after awhile (Like, right after lapras joined). When I came back, I was surprised there still was no new supporter. Also, why is cramorant still getting nerfed?? My goofy boy getting nerfed once again?

[@nickmaxx]

Char's ult is way too good now, he's an incredibly obnoxious, low skill floor mon that gets way too much for way too little risk. Imagine if slowbro did aoe damage and had the best post-unite buff in the game off its unite move.

[@TanBrosSAndYYT]

Who thinks that cram and Dodrio deserved the nerfs?

[@serily4524]

Only dodrio

[@WhereBrainz]

Startling to like the new names for these patches... First we get Scorching Waves and now Shadow Flame.

[@greenmenace9666]

I like the names, but I'm not sure about the results. I don't want them to feel like they need to buff just about every fire Pokemon in the game for Shadow flame.

[@randomedgygamer2191]

Physical charizard is so fun now

[@dark-phoenix4426]

Dude i was Ceruledge doing a unite move but char picked me in mid unite...i was like wow!!

[@Xalozar]

I main Delphox cause it acts as a counter to overpowered mons since nerfs comes once every blue moon and calling it broken is a joke, considering how unkillable Leafeon and Meowscarada are while can also kill you in a second, but no Delphox is broken needs nerfs right?

[@sppp]

Thanks for your service, cowboy 🤠

[@ChamAramis]

I absolutely hate Urshifu and EX's, so I guess I'll not be coming back soon.

[@scholarofash6073]

I can’t help but notice no snorlax -.-

[@KodywithaK23]

Do we know what the Gyarados dragon breath rework is? Haven’t played it yet and haven’t seen anything on it

[@dariusbrown9000]

Fire Punch/Fire Blast is still not viable, however unconventional. I still can't get to 9 timely, let alone 11. Not that FP+ is worth it on fixed atk spd.

[@archimedesfromteamfortress2]

Nintendo every update "Sir the new Pokemon are far too overpowered and are giving players a hard time! What should we do?" "I know the solution!" *Nerfs cramorant*

[@yeciidquintero6784]

It seems they are nerfing the "newest" speedsters and buffing the old ones, don't be amazed if we have a gengar or zeraora buff next patch

[@SarkarRubin]

Wdym? Zeraora is already really good. Gengar needs a buff atlast.

[@hyunjees5907]

Zeraora need buffs????? Whyyyy... It's totally alright

[@viva3401]

Zera's crazy underrated, really did not need the Wild Charge buffs, definitely doesn't need any other buffs

[@greenmenace9666]

I like new Pokemon, but sometimes it feels like Unite goes *out* of its way to be unbalanced. To climb to mid level masters I had to play Gyarados to be able to keep up with Falinks and Mimikyu. I played a lot of Lucario, Machamp, Charizard, Sylv, etc. before Ex Pokemon came in and it feels like the game doesn't have a straight meta or staple of what is officially balanced. And that hurts. I want to learn one Pokemon and master it and flex my mastery, but that's hard to do when its FAR less efficient than other Pokemon. Like...why buff Delphox (even if it was only a small one) and nerf Dodrio? It makes zero sense. I'm not crazy about the "themed" nerfs and buffs the devs just did. I want Unite to feel like several picks and team compositions are viable. I mean, that's the point of more playable characters coming out, isn't it? But it kind of defeats the purpose/excitement of getting new playable characters if the old ones get shunted into the Decidueye Memorial Tier only to be raised back to "meh, the newer Pokemon are better" (The end result of Urshifu's recent buff). You fall in love with a certain playstyle, but you have to take it with a grain of salt--over time, its going to fall apart. Here come the fire types ^.^

[@Dave-kf8qy]

I have enough coins to buy urshifu or ceruledge. Which one do you think is better (i cant decide)

[@BlueDreamXxX]

Urshifu kinda plays like power up punch lucario with the dark bear style and very brawler like with water bear style. Ceruledge is essential a speedster, dies quick to burst but deals a load of damage. Personally I think Ceruledge is better at least for me. I've got 44 games with Urshifu 56% winrate and 31 with Ceruledge with a 58% winrate. However I would try them out in the practice mode to really see which you'll like more.

[@Dave-kf8qy]

@@BlueDreamXxX thanks dude 👍

[@Dave-kf8qy]

@@BlueDreamXxX which is the best moveset for ceruledge

[@viva3401]

​@Dave-kf8qy Bitter Blade doesn't seem worth using to me, even after the buffs. Phantom Force is a high skill/high reward option if you want to outplay things like Glaceon's Icicle Spear or Talon's Fly. Flame Charge requires much less thought and has a lower impact as a result, but that doesn't mean it's bad: decent gap closer with a handy attack speed buff, which is a pretty important stat for Ceruledge. Psycho Cut isn't the most exciting move out there, but it lowers Defense, which is very valuable for your teammates trying to take down a Slowbro or Trev

[@adrianstyranitar717]

Spragals, pokemon definitely watches you

[@berdechan4137]

Can they give the players a compensation points if there is an afk in a match it takes too long to wait in matchmaking.

[@KawaiiMimi778]

Nah i hope ppl stop playing Sylveon so they revert the nerfs, because it didnt need them, the only thing i would havebeenok with is a 0.5 sec cd nerf on Hyper Voice but not 1 second

[@VexylObby]

I don;t think the devs should focus on buggin Pokemon that are already doing fine. They should focus more on the broken mon that need nerfs, and the broken app this game is.