Squad 44 Makes HLL Feel Arcadey...

[@achkrass]

Wish Day of Infamy was still alive. The maps were a lot smaller than either PS or HLL, but damn they got the gunplay just right. It was just the best game back in like 2017-2020.

[@undercoverhustler37]

Dude it was so much fun.

[@Aftershck]

It’s not totally dead king! You can still find Day of infamy games during the weekend

[@achkrass]

@@Aftershck damn nice to know! I'll hit up some friends soon and see if we can find a game. But I guess with NWI shutting down soon there won't be any official servers anymore right?

[@satriadewazuda2949]

You can still have fun playing coop!

[@Aftershck]

@@achkrass I actually totally forgot about the shutdown yeah no idea what’s gonna happen

[@coyotenoir764]

Ppl shill PS so hard lately like changing the name change the core of the game or something. I don't mind that, but every video, every clip is pissing on HLL. You will never see HLL players pissing on PS, cause we are busy playing and enjoying the game not giving a single fuck.

[@Mozambique_YT]

@coyotenoir764, They shit all over my other channel via Enlisted. You wont see them piss on this game simply because it's better.

[@Mozambique_YT]

@coyotenoir764, Just made this video in your honor. Hope you like the title! ~ kzbin.info/www/bejne/nGeWfHmBYrijrqc

[@coyotenoir764]

@@Mozambique_YT it's not.

[@AndyP998]

Yes you are playing and not even communicating inside squad. Had to server hop so many times because of totally silent squads filled with guys who need some "real work" on progression they are working on.

[@coyotenoir764]

@@AndyP998 That's a player issue. Generally teams without SLs and/or lacking in communication will be punished by losing the game. They learn hard way that the comms are the key for efficient play which results in more fun. Sure, you can play without coordination maybe even win if the other team is worse, but it's all up to the players how they want to play and they will be awarded or punished accordingly.

[@glennnl277]

To me they are both a different experience, I like them both and power to players that choose either of them as long as they are team players and use comms. Just hope Squad44 gets a graphics buff at some point :)

[@Aetlaify]

HLL bad! Why not? It's arcadey bro! Trust me when i'm sayin. Guys seriously! What's your gain with bashing HLL all around? Does that make PS magically a better game or what? HLL is a hardcore shooter by its nature and PS leaned towards a milsim apporach. That was just it. HLL was out a year after PS and there was a nice and healthy competition in between both. Yes, HLL has its own unique shortcomings and flaws yet its still alive after years of poor content delivery, dev change and despite myriad of other reasons. You guys love PS and appreciate as it is as its your favourite. I get that but somehow you see no flaws and no shortcomings with PS. Just like its been such a perfect game and only a few were being able to comprehend its true greatness. Don't let your loyalty turn you blind. It's not a healthy attitude. And why you PS vets are grim and resentful towards HLL is still such a mystery. Despite been a HLL fan for years i've cherished when i've head that the game is back with a new team because you know after years you want something of a new challenge and a refreshing experience. I think we all should rejoice for having for such decent alternative games one to another. And hopefully with a new team Squad 44 gets even better with proper care and quality content delivery. Cheers!

[@zionwilliamson386]

HLL lives in their head rent-free lol

[@Aetlaify]

@@zionwilliamson386 lol yeah they're quite obsessed with the HLL. Hll tis and Hll tat yada yada. Real strange man

[@zionwilliamson386]

@@Aetlaify They even compare HLL with COD or Battlefield like how the fuck is that possible bro. They're so far. All these bunch of feeling superior hating on the other game. The comment section of this video alone is a proof.

[@Aetlaify]

@@zionwilliamson386 they're the zealots of their cause bro. since the game is back thanks to mercury OWI take over those people keep bashing HLL for no apparent reason instead celebrating that their game is back and given a second chance to show its true quality under new direction and with new devs. they almost take HLL responsible for the failure of PS. I've never seen such spiteful, grim and salty bunch of fanboy plebs ever in my life. well, good luck. keep drinking from your copium canteen.

[@oscarpalm4863]

Best game is Red Orchestra 3… Hopefully one day it will be here.

[@Mozambique_YT]

@oscarpalm4863, never played the series. I'll check it out

[@KaTJleTa228]

@@Mozambique_YTThat man means that Red Orchestra 2 was really good, but this released 12 years ago and online is almost dead as graphic. However mechanics is pretty good and nice for eyes in 2024 and we all waiting for the continuation. Wish you to play in that legend. Enjoy the game

[@codenamedingo6271]

The question isnt is PS better than HLL they're two different games. Its like trying to compare Oranges and Tangerines, sure there are similarities, but ultimately different. HLL is the perfect game for the casual and the hardcore player, its more arcade style, has the battlefield feel with a dash of realism. PS is closer to Squad as far as Hard Core gameplay. This game has more of a skill curve and is definitely geared to the Hard Core milsim type player. Each has their pro's and cons. I play both and enjoy both, it doesnt have to be one games better than the other, they're both good games.

[@Freelocybin]

in what way exactly is HLL more arcadey than PS? I have only played HLL so far and this footage seems pretty similar, maybe a bit more slow-paced.

[@Freelocybin]

@BullDogBattleStuff ok thanks for the explanation!

[@codenamedingo6271]

@@Freelocybin In the sense that there is unlimited sprint, one doesn't have to take into consideration their sprint, stamina, and weapon sway. It is more like Battlefield in that sense. That is what I mean by arcady.

[@DossChen]

Many people argue in defense of HLL, and they're not wrong. It boasts beautiful, large simple sights (iron sights), as well as superhuman strength, capable of feats like running without needing to rest. Plus, it wears pristine white clothing in the scorching heat of summer at Carlington. And everyone can don different uniforms; you can even spot the Bastogne uniform in the market garden operations. It's truly impressive.

[@Mozambique_YT]

😂😂🤣🤣

[@AbdiAktivo]

Arcady?.. Wow haha

[@thebigketch8501]

It is bruh

[@Whut-duck-fart]

not realy @@thebigketch8501

[@bitsandbobs42]

​@@thebigketch8501 The fast turn around with it's spawn system is why HLL won, it nails the hords of human beings that come at you during war. All games are arcadey, if it was "realistic" you'd die once and then you would get permanently banned from ever playing the game again. Like it or not, HLL is hardcore

[@johncurtis6815]

@@bitsandbobs42 HLL is the epitome of cartoon arcadey action games. It’s why it thrives with teenagers.

[@bitsandbobs42]

@@johncurtis6815 Well if it's so good why aren't people playing it? Are you complaining that you haven't got teenagers to play with?

[@jpmulli]

I find Post to be clunky and not nearly as smooth or intuitive as Hell Let Loose. The graphics just don't compare either and what is with the buildings being devoid of anything inside them.

[@AndyP998]

Environmental graphics are better in HLL but render distance is must shorted too. Building of ONLY chapter 1 maps are devoid since they never touched them, but rest of map aint. And graphics dont make game

[@artofwar3046]

Well OWI and the squad community would call this gameplay COD like. This gunplay is soo much closer to what Squad was preICO and everyone called that Arcadey. Hopefully OWI doesn't do that to this game as well.

[@Mozambique_YT]

@artofwar3046, cool perspective thanks for the comment man!

[@Russell970]

You should give Easy Red 2 a try its really fun!

[@arts6821]

Every time I try to get into HLL I just can’t, I don’t know how to describe it but the gun play feels off to me. And in general I find WAY less communication in HLL than in Post Scriptum. The only time I had squad mates communicating in HLL was when I was in an armor squad other than that dead silence through out the game.

[@KiwisDownUnder]

I feel the opposite. Find HLL a lot easier to pickup and go. Also player base is approx x10 as many and on the increase. PS has been on the decline.

[@AndyP998]

Gunplay definately is Post scriptums best points. Adjustable sights, bullet dropoff closer to real, not messing damage models just sake of gameplay, recoil pattern mimics closer to real etc.. And of course communication vs game where half of squad mates play just this class to make some xp for it and aint interested in anything else. PS just went from 150 players to 1500 in a weeks looks good.

[@MajorMosh710]

Well for consoles it’s either battlefield, Isonzo, hell let loose or enlisted and honestly hell let loose is the best out of all of them

[@Gentleman_And_Scholar]

God enlisted fucking blows. Game feels so lifeless for some reason. And it’s genuinely pay to win. It feels like a mobile game almost

[@ad3mn]

I don't think PS would work on console.

[@robertwallace4393]

Squad is better than them all, but PS and Squad are poorly optimized would struggle with a console port be stuck on 30fps or someshit

[@artofwar3046]

@@robertwallace4393 *was better than them until September rolled around. Post is better now.

[@VeryImpressive]

How is the gunplay in Post? I just tried HLL for the first time, specifically machine gunner class and I loved it. Couldn’t believe how many people you can mow down with the right position. It was extremely satisfying! Is Post better?

[@demigod2329]

yes

[@VeryImpressive]

Hey fair enough, sold, I’ll buy Post today

[@ethandighton3231]

its incredible and if your new and need a squad lead let me know or someone to teach you the game let me know im happy to help

[@marcoos1337]

gunplay is way worse in squad44. Well maybe not if u like deadzone animations, clunky movement etc. But its more slow phase if u like that

[@ethandighton3231]

its also a thousand times more historically accurate than HLL maps are down to division 82nd ,101st airborne and 4th ID against Werhmacht or 9th ss depending on the map NZ vs italy if your in crete 7 russian divisions and an additional 3 german divisions with Chapter Red. You also get to jump out of airplanes into battle as well as land on the beaches @@marcoos1337

[@ChrisAlvarezAlvarezImaging]

Well, the guy said it right at the beginning- @ 00:10 "This game, would be better if they didn't f#$& over the armor" He's exactly right, PS would be better than HLL if they hadn't made the tanks and and everything motorized into go-carts. In all honesty however, the "ultimate" really would be a combination of the two built on Unreal 5

[@MalenkiyKabanchyk]

What????? Unless something major changed the armour in PS ever since they did the damage changes has been superior in every capacity to HLL. Gearing, actual penetration with hitboxes instead of a health bar, actual realistic AT effects, more versatility, better cameras, turn out and so forth. Idk what PS your talking about but HLL tanking for anyone who didnt like arcade style games was shit. The memories I have of 2 man french tanks tryna fight short barrel stugs and infantry will remain in my head rent free as one of the best ww2 sim shooters I know. PS died because of ease of access especially at the time. This combined with poor optimisation. HLL pumped out more varied content that attracted people such as the Russians but PS was always larger, slower and more punishing. Insane that the company getting bought flipped the switch when some of us still returned once in a while because they knew it was a good product. It was less about which game was better and more about the PS vs HLL rivalry with verbal support pushing people into HLL.

[@ChrisAlvarezAlvarezImaging]

@@MalenkiyKabanchyk Both can be true. You are exactly right in what you said, but they are unrealistically fast now- Top speed for an M4 Sherman is 24-29 mph, but that would be a flat, improved road- so most of the time they would be stationary or maybe 10-15mph creeping around over rubble or hedgerows and ditches- yet in PS they jet around on rails it seems like to me. All the hit boxes and pen effects, and graphic effects, all of that is absolutely wonderful, but when they run around like a turbo Volvo it takes me out of the game.

[@magniankh]

The armor model is far superior in P44 what are you talking about?

[@MalenkiyKabanchyk]

@@ChrisAlvarezAlvarezImaging As opposed to the HLL model of making them super slow? PS or S44 uses the actual speeds and doesnt limit them like HLL a puma should fly around fast that was its advantage. In HLL you can feel how gimmicky the slowed vehicles are. Also in regards to PS if you've ever played the french or early war you'll see how armour functions. Not on rails. The amount of times I have to drop gears to climb in PS is abundant late war machines the Sherman were solid vehicles with good speed and maneuverability. You see the struggles and mechanical limitations in older models like the souma or the ft models etc.

[@AndyP998]

are you on drugs or something? HLL cant touch S44 tanks by a looong mile. And on top of that 5-7x more vehicles i

[@AWA957]

If they could bring Post Scriptum to consol, I'm sure it would do well. HLL is the closest thing we have to a realistic experience and I know many people would like something that's a little closer to a true milsim. With that being said, if you can get in with a good group on HLL, it can be a ton of fun.

[@willgraves9310]

That won't happen with the performance and optimization of the game, most PCs can barely run it.

[@Topfloorshyt]

@@willgraves9310bro a bought a 200 dollar computer and I run ps fine on epic everything if you can’t run ps you need to get more ram and a better gpu I don’t have the best computer on the market but at the same time ik how to set up mines to where I can run any game on any settings

[@L11ghtman]

@@willgraves9310squad could easily run on an Xbox or PS5. The issue is definitely how quality the port would be. Optimization is a hard process on small teams.

[@patrickjohnson5245]

Maybe a console specific variant.

[@magniankh]

The game is too demanding for console with the amount of controls necessary, the size of the maps, and the performance requirements (poorly optimized.) Also you actually need to communicate, so chewing on a $15 mic from target like most console players if they even own a mic doesn't really work.

[@yyomorkono8265]

yes yes yes yes yes yes

[@JoCo964]

I get what youre saying bro but the friendly names above their heads is arcade that shit is half the battle, to un arcade that shit you have to properly communicate and identify the enemy.

[@artofwar3046]

Don't start talking sense into them. If they never played a true milsim then they'll never understand. True milsims have soo much more depth that most of these players don't have the patience for it. There's land nav that has to be done, gunfire makes you do deaf without earpro, medical systems way more in depth, I mean it's laughable to call anything other than ARMA a milsim. These are simlite's, team-based-tactical-shooters is what they are.

[@LadyFairChildVideo]

i don't know , all this footage looks like players playing pretty arcadey.

[@shieldyourselfmusic8567]

I wis hthey just got rid of the need to drink water - Its only thing i really dislike about this game

[@AndyP998]

its for stamina management which is necessary for realistic shooter. But canteen should be overhauled or some small adjustments to stamina drain.

[@RedDonut]

HLL is fcked after Team 17 took over. Time to play Post Scriptum

[@johncurtis6815]

Do it man, it’s fucking amazing.

[@tagguh1]

HLL is in a really good spot now. Not sure what you're talking about.

[@zionwilliamson386]

And they fixed their mistakes

[@johncurtis6815]

HLL is a cartoony arcade like Battlefield WW2 game. Post Scriptum is on a whole other level man and it’s not even close.

[@Tewo84]

Battlefield is more arcady than HLL in my opinion

[@manuelbiasion2934]

I like both the games, I think that it has to be appreciated the fact that both are trying to make a decent ww2 games, and this is very noble. So I don't want to demolish one or the other.

[@manuelbiasion2934]

Obviously bf is a shit

[@Minceontoast2]

Yea and fuck all guns to

[@mabybee]

Nobody listen to this plebe. His parents clearly loved and nurtured him too much, so the only way he satisfies that primal urge to survive is by talking about his superior ability to determine the softness levels of toilet paper brands. That’s a metaphoric way of saying John Curtis is a candy ass.

[@jayvenanderson1677]

Cod WW2 2017 was the most realistic overall.

[@nineengine3526]

lol

[@Verdun16]

time to take your schizophrenia pills

[@bitsandbobs42]

Post is missing that sense of scale, that's why HLL came out on top, it nails the grand scale of an army, hords of human beings all attacking each other in violent choas thats overwhelming to the senses.

[@johncurtis6815]

HLL came out on top because it went into the console market and is a casual playing game. It’s extremely cartoony, arcade like, and has a large teenage player base. It’s not a knock against the game, it’s simply the truth. Post Scriptum is far more realistic, military based simulation of WW2. Far more hardcore.

[@bitsandbobs42]

@@johncurtis6815 The console version is feral and you're completely clueless. The PC player base is orders of magnitude larger than it's console counterpart too, HLL is dead on console in a lot of regions

[@bitsandbobs42]

@BullDogBattleStuff Nah it's not the amount of players on the server, it's how quick you can get ya fellas back onto the front line. Hell let loose only has 100 players on a server, which when it comes to an actual battle is weak as hell, I've seen pub brawls bigger than that but because of the quick turn out it gives the feeling that there's thousands of people being churned through the meat grinder that is war.

[@tagguh1]

@@johncurtis6815 What?? LOL. Nearly everything you just said was wrong. The vast majority of FPS players would not consider HLL 'casual' at all. It's not cartoony at all, and has better graphics than what I've seen from PS so far, and I mostly run into older dudes playing HLL, not teenagers.

[@johnbookjans5884]

@@tagguh1 My thoughts exactly. I have played HLL for 3300 hrs and I think 3 times I heard or played with someone under the age of 18 lol - this guy is way off on his assessment

[@boogie5]

you got that right!

[@Mozambique_YT]

@boogie5, Tx for the comment Boogie! Just sub to your channel! Keep it up!

[@DossChen]

INDEED!

[@tunaeater894]

I tried this, it reminds me a hll knock off🤷

[@Mozambique_YT]

@tunaeater894, I'm more exited for it's potential. Destruction etc... is OTW

[@Korhh]

Sometimes arcadey is better

[@Bearscoachesnamedmattsuck69]

Looks good but does it take half hour to find people? Cuz fuck that garbage

[@Mozambique_YT]

It's been the same as hll IMO

[@lysergichigh6172]

idk what u smoking on but if u search up player counts of both games its not even close my dude@@Mozambique_YT

[@Mozambique_YT]

@@lysergichigh6172 , Mainly Sativa

[@lysergichigh6172]

Haha