Square Enix's incompetency killed Dissidia Final Fantasy NT.

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MugenLord

MugenLord

Күн бұрын

Dissidia Final Fantasy NT was one of my favorite co-op competitive games of last generation. It was a shame that the game had died before it had a chance to really take off. In this video I will discuss the incompetence of Square Enix and their business decisions that lead to the failure of this Final Fantasy competitive crossover. If you are new to the channel or have no idea what the Dissidia Final Fantasy series is then I suggest that you buckle up. I will summarize the history of the series in order to help you understand why Dissidia Final Fantasy NT failed as a game in this video.
I also want to discuss how this games failure could have been avoided. Leave your thoughts in comment section below and share it with others who maybe interested in this video.
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@otherguyjo1684
@otherguyjo1684 Жыл бұрын
They knew that all we wanted was an upgraded Dissidia 012. Like bro, the f*** happened?
@asura8236
@asura8236 Жыл бұрын
I know,me and my friend we played like 700 hours of that game when it came out on PSP, so disappointed when I found out that the new dissidia was nothing like the old one didn't even have couch co-op lol.
@faidou9954
@faidou9954 2 жыл бұрын
Being a Square Enix fan truly is the definition of suffering sometimes.
@randomperson9583
@randomperson9583 11 ай бұрын
I aint a square enix fan but being a final fantasy fan yeah.. i agree
@ZanMindtrip
@ZanMindtrip 11 ай бұрын
the highest of highs and the lowest of lows
@randomperson9583
@randomperson9583 11 ай бұрын
@@ZanMindtrip Idk what i mean but i feel like it describes square enix perfectly
@Thorn_416
@Thorn_416 9 ай бұрын
@@randomperson9583good distinction to make lol idk why game consumers are such cucks WHY are you a corporation fan?!?!
@Stigma444
@Stigma444 Жыл бұрын
It's a shame that the story was done dirty, especially when you consider how deep and intense the lore was in dissidia 012
@at0micl0bster
@at0micl0bster Жыл бұрын
This game was ruined the second they gutted the combat and the story, 3v3 should be a mode not the main
@SeventhheavenDK
@SeventhheavenDK Жыл бұрын
Imo the game was a complete disaster and a downgrade compared to 012. It really saddened me that we didn't get any cutscene with Tifa, Ardyn and Gabranth, tho. Still, I am not surprised the game flopped so badly.
@xn9333
@xn9333 Жыл бұрын
Psp version was great, pity they messed the next gen version-continuation up so badly, It would've been so nice if they just expanded the psp versions cast
@partymantis3421
@partymantis3421 Жыл бұрын
NT had some neat ideas to bring to the Dissidia subseries with the 3vs3 setup. But having no option to go 1v1 (or 2v2) & bareley any singelplayer stuff was a dam shame, interestingly the Dissidia OO moblile game does have some fun character interactions & story elements like those we know from the PSP, SqEx could just bring some of that story from OO into NT or a future big Dissidia game then we would be golden
@MugenLord
@MugenLord Жыл бұрын
Options for players would have saved this game.
@Fayt540
@Fayt540 Жыл бұрын
Yeah tbh OO having microtransactions and being on mobile is what kills it for me. I hope they bring OO (without microtransactions) and Dimensions over to the Switch and PS4/PS5
@MoritzBra
@MoritzBra 9 ай бұрын
you can do 1v2 or whatever in lobby, so option is there
@RoelChannel
@RoelChannel 2 жыл бұрын
i wish they release a new dissidia on switch or at least remaster duodecim on a plaform
@MugenLord
@MugenLord 2 жыл бұрын
I agree!
@arcaniumdragon2444
@arcaniumdragon2444 Жыл бұрын
As long as it's not cloud based like kh3 on switch. Probably be an instant fail in that scenario
@slycooper7858
@slycooper7858 Жыл бұрын
What if we can convince Square Enix to bring back the old Dissidia as remake for both consoles and pc so that way we can crossplay each other for fun, not to mention the 3v3 but it would be fun, right?
@MugenLord
@MugenLord Жыл бұрын
There needs to be a resurgence of players coming together to play this game in order to convince them of giving this series a restart.
@slycooper7858
@slycooper7858 Жыл бұрын
@@MugenLord I means I never played the old Dissidia or that nt Dissidia before but I have watched the video and gameplay of the old Dissidia and it fun tbh. As for the nt that I don't know of, I would play it but I want to know what is everyone opinion if they are good or not
@MugenLord
@MugenLord Жыл бұрын
@@slycooper7858 I own the PSP games and NT, its really fun when you put together a team of friends.
@slycooper7858
@slycooper7858 Жыл бұрын
@@MugenLord can I ask you a honest question if you don't mind: when you play the nt dissidia and all in that game, how does it feel to you?
@MugenLord
@MugenLord Жыл бұрын
@@slycooper7858 Hmmm, I dunno. Its just a fun game but its definitely technical especially the button layout for your commands.
@DICEBOY22
@DICEBOY22 Жыл бұрын
Specialist on its own existing proves there was no point to the class system. Characters should have just been balanced and equilibrium like a normal fighting game via Street Fighter 2-6 or Super Smash Brothers It was to different from the PSP ones and that's essentially a big part that hurt it to. HP attacks Should have stayed the same.
@CCPEACEoriginal
@CCPEACEoriginal 2 жыл бұрын
Dude. I'm a huge Duodecim fan. I saw this was already wary but you nailed it. This game was only playable friends. It was a blast when I had 2 other guys to run it with. I got 1 of my 2 most wanted. Rinoa Heartly, but they still didn't drop Vincent. Didn't even know I wanted Xenos till he landed, with those elemental effects I was hooked. Though one thing I didn't hear you mention was the sheer price of the dlc. I buy costumes left and right, man I love my aesthetics, but I was turned off cause a costume was 12 bucks. If they started to bulk release costumes and drop maps with or in between? Fuck me that would have been cool. Plus the fact they never released the Helmet less WoL or Suit Noctus for purchase. (How was I supposed to know to buy cup noodles to get that shit? They didn't didn't advertise it once in my direction.)
@MugenLord
@MugenLord 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, forgot about DLC pricing none of my vids are scripted but I do use an outline for points i want to mention and forgot about DLC pricing XD I was hoping for Garnet, Vincent, Vivi, and Agrias from FF tactics to make it into the game.
@CCPEACEoriginal
@CCPEACEoriginal 2 жыл бұрын
@@MugenLord duuuude solid picks. Didn't even think about Vivi. This is pretty good for unscripted too.
@MugenLord
@MugenLord 2 жыл бұрын
@@CCPEACEoriginal FF9 was my second favorite next to FF7. But FF Tactics is fighting with FF7 for number 1 though XD
@seththemage6029
@seththemage6029 9 ай бұрын
Coming from someone who played the PSP games religiously and actually gave this game a shot for a bit, I think the most frustrating aspect was a lack of LAN support. If they actually cared about building a competitive scene, they would at least have allowed players to set up offline matches. I enjoyed what little I did play of this game; I was excited for strategizing and building teams with other people, I enjoyed the checks and balances between the three main character archetypes, and I really appreciated that Team Ninja put a ton of really creative references to each character within their movesets (in a lot of cases, more than even the original movesets on PSP). But, I couldn't find people IRL to play with and the online quality was frequently pisspoor to the point where it was unplayable.
@arosonomy
@arosonomy Жыл бұрын
I'm so upset over this. If the PSP ones were available Id have gotten them on the Ps5 instead. I can NOT explain how weird it feels seeing the game stripped of everything that made it its own game. Overworld: No longer exists Minion/Boss Fights: No longer exists Story: now locked behind "fight x teams and hope to level" Player Customization: Next to none compared to previous complete overhaul of moveset. BUT NOW WE CAN FARM PLAYER ICONS!! We had an interesting story, decent singleplayer mode, and what, 6 less characters? "We completely destroyed our title and won't be making any more in the future." They should give the company to the half of the team that left mid 2000s.
@jasomega2446
@jasomega2446 Жыл бұрын
I agree with your video. In The Very End, This Game Had So Much Potential!
@redstreak9430
@redstreak9430 Жыл бұрын
I agree with your analysis from a competitive standpoint (even if I felt the team mode shouldn’t have override the 1v1 mode from the original) but I feel like you sold the story short for the PSP games. Sure they felt like pages from a Kingdom Hearts game (which made sense considering some people worked on it from KH) but it definitely made playing through the game solo worth it, especially with 012 with the world map. NT felt like it was an afterthought and basically made those game irrelevant despite being billed as a sequel and not a reboot. That being said, I hope we get a remastered port of 012 sometime in the future as many people are still willing to play the game via emulation to play together and created mods based off the unused DLC slots.
@gino6872
@gino6872 2 жыл бұрын
Man, I remember your Dissidia streams. Freaking love Noctis and Shantotto, sucks so hard that Square Enix pulled the plug!
@MugenLord
@MugenLord 2 жыл бұрын
The streams were hype lol.
@tyrant102
@tyrant102 2 жыл бұрын
Liked and subbed,This video speaks so much truth,I bought the complete editon and was disappointed by the lack of content and the amount you have to pay for... square failed us and it's so sad...they're really just in for a cash grab slowly turning into shinra....if they literally took psp dissidia and put it onto ps5 n pc w all the tweaks of NT, we would be playing it RN and you'd probably be streaming it....all we can do is hope they do another revive and just use 012 and the original as the base....hoping and praying
@MugenLord
@MugenLord 2 жыл бұрын
Bro, i really hope they rethink it ever and give this series another go. The have iconic characters that literally prints money if handled right. Thanks for the sub!
@MrNobo15
@MrNobo15 2 жыл бұрын
My strongest character in Dissidia 012 (Squall) didn't even come remotely close to beating my buddy's character (Onion Knight). I'd hit him for around 3000, and he'd be hitting each hit for closer to 8000
@MugenLord
@MugenLord 2 жыл бұрын
Goddamn! I tried Squall in this game and I cannot work his Trigger strikes at all for some reason.
@bwareist
@bwareist 2 жыл бұрын
@@MugenLord That's because the timing had to be pixel perfect accurate.
@MugenLord
@MugenLord 2 жыл бұрын
@@bwareist A game as intense as the combat its dear near impossible for me to get the timing right.
@Senerith
@Senerith 2 ай бұрын
Set kuja as assist. Start with chain lightning into upper blues combo. assist should be charged by that point, and then you pop assist near the end of your combo when squall kicks the enemy into the ground. kuja will lock the enemy in place allowing you to land a heel crush bravery while Kuja is still attacking with ground bravery combo. Kuja’s combo will finish and you’ll be allowed an X teleport to opponent where you can lamd any air attack in your kit, be it bravery or HP. Theres not enough bravery on any standard character or build to stop this combo from breaking assuming you’ve build squall properly with standard modifiers to increase bravery damage and crits
@Senerith
@Senerith 2 ай бұрын
As for squall in NT, spamming his dash attack was what worked. It did too much damage, comes out too fast, kept him in motion and tracked well, was cancellable with dodge, and didnt require his timing gimmick. You could win games just spamming that and ultima.
@Hobolore
@Hobolore 2 жыл бұрын
There was a GANG of arcade games from SEGA that I wanted to see on Dreamcast. Games from Model 2/3/Naomi. I know Naomi was advanced but they could’ve scaled back those. The point is, if they had created story modes for those games it would’ve been hit or miss. I think we both feel like leave Arcade games Arcade.
@SyLuX636
@SyLuX636 2 жыл бұрын
Great concept but Square got lazy and went all in on the 3v3 game play to be "Competetive" but failed miserably. For one it needed 1v1 back and the rpg customization needed to comeback. But we really know why the game dropped cause everyone just played Cloud and Sephiroth lol, just kidding just a joke.
@SyLuX636
@SyLuX636 2 жыл бұрын
Also the Online was horrendous almost forgot about that.
@MugenLord
@MugenLord 2 жыл бұрын
3v3 wasnt for everyone but i enjoyed, the solo experience was lacking and that's where they definitely dropped the ball.
@ComeOnBunny
@ComeOnBunny Жыл бұрын
If they made a every man for themselves mode game would have been a solid party game.
@ZanMindtrip
@ZanMindtrip 11 ай бұрын
I wish the game had in person co-op and versus, it wouldve been easier to sell a game if you could sit down with friends and play.
@invikari
@invikari Жыл бұрын
Oh my days! You are MugenLord from the Mugen Sprite Fighting Game back in the day!! I can't believe this... I watched your tutorial videos on Mugen way back in the day...
@ViewtifulJae
@ViewtifulJae 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve never heard anyone pronounce it “ dis sea Dee ah” before Mostly “Dis sih Dee ah “ it was so hard for me to ignore lol
@philip.cheulsu
@philip.cheulsu 3 ай бұрын
Ran across this vid and it brought back up memories about playing this game back in its heyday. Used to be part of a group and played matches and hoped it would have gone far. I always saw myself playing Y'shtola and Ramza in a lobby full of Clouds back then.
@Kligor2
@Kligor2 Жыл бұрын
I honestly liked 3v3 even if I prefer 1v1 but I think they should remaster and re-release Dissidia 012 with new characters added on. Honestly I just loved that gameplay style so much and add more story to it. Maybe like 008 or something where its an older cycle where only a few warriors from the original games were there so we could have a very fresh story with the full roster at our disposal too
@damascusunverse8183
@damascusunverse8183 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video Mugen I played a lot of Tidus in NT since he's my favorite character in Final Fantasy. Also played a lot of Ramza, Squall, Gabranth, Locke, Vayne, Yuna, Zidane, Noctis and Snow. I was hoping to get Noel, Cauiss, Fang, Sazh from FF13, Baltheir and Ashe from FF12, give me the whole FFX cast 🤣
@MugenLord
@MugenLord 2 жыл бұрын
I was hoping Garnet, Vincent, Vivi, and Agrias from FF Tactics make it into the game.
@AndersonTenecela
@AndersonTenecela 2 жыл бұрын
The fact you favorite game in the series is FFX makes me happy 😁😊
@AndersonTenecela
@AndersonTenecela 2 жыл бұрын
@@MugenLord fun fact Zack Fair and Vivi were meant to be the next dlc characters for Dissidia NT after Ardyn release but when square Enix cut support for the game… yeah 😢
@MugenLord
@MugenLord 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndersonTenecela Well that pisses me off even more after hearing that.
@kenamada5451
@kenamada5451 Жыл бұрын
As a dissidia lover, get ready for a big one: While Duodecim was a broken game, it made a competitive scene no less. One I partook in for a bit. This ones a personal gripe, but I think 3v3 was a terrible decision. Don't get me wrong, playing 3v3 with all my friends in one team and my other friends in the other, all in VC. The game was tremendously fun, but at the end of the day I was and am a competitive player, so I wanted competitive depth... and this is where we come across what I believe is the first flaw. Homogenization of moves is not inherently bad, but every single character was a shadow of its former iteration. The standard for every character was 6 moves, unless you were the unlucky one to have 4. Some few had 9. If I recall these were the numbers. The tech of the game was cancels, stopping your combo mid-combo so your ally can follow up and you can end it off with an HP attack, etc etc. That's it. This tech was forced, there's virtually no other bit of depth to the game outside of player to player coordination (Which could be its own stress in ranked) As you said, the main hook of the FF Dissidia titles was the personalized character customization, but not just customization, but also growth. Leveling your characters from 1-100. Seeing that HP and dmg get chunkier, melding accessories, getting equipment, personal summons that did so many different and unique things. In NT, a baseline HP of 3500-- that btw is super easy to get to for 1shots, 1 HP attack (understandable for 3v3) all of these things felt hollow. Mix that with the low character depth and after some time of playing, the glam and glimmer dissipates as many of the matches become same-y. Which with barely any updates made it even worse. Now that's not to say *certain* characters didn't have depthful mechanics, such as Sephiroths instant cancels and Squalls timed triggers. Which presents our next issue... Peer to peer terribly laggy online while expecting me to do Squall triggers which had a 2 FRAME WINDOW pre-patch. Squall was such a BAD CHARACTER because ALL of his damage was tied to timing his triggers... IN LAGG. Over time with buffs they made his triggers more forgiving, nerfed his trigger damage, but buffed his non-triggers, but the trade off was now the hardcore squall players who dedicated the time to get the timing down were not rewarded much at all. There were aspects of the game I thought were great, like air time gauge, dash, dodge, attack cancels, punishable dodges (Looking at you 012 dodge simulator), character passives and EX abilities (Except you Vaan... straight downgrade from 012's Job mechanic) But, punishable dodges was both a good and bad thing. Good that they were punishable... bad in the fact that the distance of said dodge was so piss poor that many HP attacks in the game were checkmate situations. Wide sweeping, large beam or hard tracking abilities (Looking at you pre-patch Tifa dolphin blow) were straight up most the time undodgable. Your i-frames wouldn't last. So, it got to the point where you knew a player was good if they wall slammed you twice, forcing your invincibility on the wall, then correctly timing a checkmate HP attack. That way they get 2 bravery attacks before the HP attack instead of 1... usually a kill. Blocking... that's its own problem tbh, but I understand why its needed. In 012, blocking was a hard read. If you blocked the opponent they stagger back allowing for a free punish of your choosing. BUT, if the opponent either waited (because blocking had endlagg) or used a guard crush move which were all HP moves or certain bravery ones, you would get sauced instead. Blocking alone in 012 already created a rock paper scissors. A necessity in competitive games... that's one mechanic, man. Just one... I won't bore you with the rest. All in all I agree 1000% with making it the players choice if the game goes competitive. Allow the players to break and crack open your game, discover tech and formulate a scene. The game was so tight and tech manufactured for us such as cancels that it allowed for no freedom ironically enough. This became a ramble, but I really think all they needed to do was rebalance and repurpose the 012 formula. Hell even the story for Dissidia/012 was pretty cool IMO. I loved how the plot twist was that the war never ever ends and every won war restarts the cycle fresh and with every cycle new things happened to the point you had good guys like Cloud and Tidus working for Chaos and characters like Sephiroth(?) being one of the good guys. That was such an interesting concept to me.
@ComeOnBunny
@ComeOnBunny Жыл бұрын
Game was trash from the start. The story sucked, no customization, and bad character selection choice. They should have marketed it as a party game if Dissidia NT had a every man for themselves mode instead of just 3 vs 3 it would have been God tier. If the Dissidia NT story was as good as Opera Omnia story it wouldn't have died.
@aroccoification
@aroccoification Ай бұрын
At least they started working with team ninja and we got stranger of paradise out of it
@Zappieroth
@Zappieroth Жыл бұрын
Still play 012 pvp, Would love to play NT but I can never find a match. That and a lot of the people I know from playing are pretty toxic.
@bboyg1
@bboyg1 Жыл бұрын
How are you playing 012 online? What console, psp or vita?
@egateqa1351
@egateqa1351 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking Square could do a Final Fantasy Fighting Game that's like Persona 4 Arena.
@Black_Aces
@Black_Aces 3 ай бұрын
I wish they would've stuck to their roots and made the 012 follow up that everyone wanted, instead they got greedy and thought they could make an Esports game like you said. It pushed away a lot of old players and didn't really bring any new ones that stuck around and played the game long term. The good thing is its not too late for this series I hope one day they can make the game the fans were expecting
@Senerith
@Senerith 2 ай бұрын
Oh lord! thats me at 16:51! and Darkknight is my cousin! Good times with Garland and emperor and platinuming the game! Good matches good matches! this game was spectacularly fun when it worked
@vincentgraymore
@vincentgraymore 2 жыл бұрын
Dissidia back in the day was not something I took much interesting in playing, and it being PSP didn't help. NT kinda flew over my head. Great cinematic and such, though. Having a multiverse like this send people down strange theory crafting.
@MugenLord
@MugenLord 2 жыл бұрын
Yea the theory crafting did begin when this game had launched, FF14 also has wild theories and how it possibly connects all the FF games by being in the center of them all.
@lurkingC
@lurkingC 2 жыл бұрын
It’s unfortunate you didn’t get to play the PSP ones. They were so good. They had a lot of RPG elements and you were able to completely customize you’re characters abilities and attacks. The story mode for the PSP games also really implemented the characters well into each scenario. NT disappointed me since it ripped all of that away and it had a terrible story compared to the expansive PSP games. Hopefully one day they’ll make HD ports but I won’t get my hopes up for it…
@MugenLord
@MugenLord 2 жыл бұрын
@@lurkingC I dunno why they decided to make the originals for psp instead of consoles.
@lurkingC
@lurkingC 2 жыл бұрын
@@MugenLord Yeah. It definitely would have made more sense on PS3/360 with how ambitious the game was.
@DeusGamez
@DeusGamez 2 жыл бұрын
i thought the gameplay of NT was ok but it was heavily lacking a good solo experience an matches online took way too long to find, the monetization didnt help all too much either an some characters they added were questionable lol honestly trying to hard to cash in on e-sport is was killed it for me ultimately like i do enjoy a good fisty-cuffs showdown but not if its forced lol it needs to feel more natural an be optional not required to make a final fantasy game feel good. and a character which alot of us have begged them for but never got in this or other iterations of dissidia is Auron from FFX he woulda been such a great close quarter character and every time he speaks its an awesome speech or quote xD plus he'd tied all the other character's backgrounds together an probably have some funny one liners with jecht in a team xD
@MugenLord
@MugenLord 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree!
@davemardrov777
@davemardrov777 11 ай бұрын
The games beautiful. Looks fantastic. Shame it couldn’t live up to the original games.
@kosaku_kq5601
@kosaku_kq5601 9 ай бұрын
Unfortunately since I got it during a Christmas sale in 2021 I wasn't around during it's heyday, but I still revisit the game from time to time despite it being dead. Overall I am left with mixed feelings as for one while I'm not one for every game needing cutting edge graphics to be a standard met, but goodness gracious this game's presentation is so beautiful practically every frame you can screenshot and make it your desktop wallpaper. I also enjoyed the summon battles that I felt were fun and difficult, however if it had co-op as an option it could've been on a whole level. All of my favorite FF characters were satisfying to play with: Sephiroth having perfect dash cancels make you feel good every time you time it right, Lightning having two different modes made for insane combo potential, and Ardyn having bits like a tornado projectile that you can detonate manually anytime and a character specific buff that increases your HP attack damage. That being said I got the impression some characters had more thought put into their kit more than others, because with one of my little brother's favorites being Golbez good grief he was done dirty in this game. So to wrap-up this long-winded comment, while this game's potential was left to wither and die I just hope that Square Enix doesn't let the Dissidia franchise share a similar fate instead of continuing with a new game.
@Onimeandmyfriends
@Onimeandmyfriends Ай бұрын
always had a blast with this game too until someone in our group started acting up not being a team player and listening to the team
@ChaosElement
@ChaosElement Жыл бұрын
We need to revive this man! Need to get heat behind it.
@MugenLord
@MugenLord Жыл бұрын
We need to find other people who want to play this game and then we can set up a community or something. I really miss this game.
@lolilikedragons3528
@lolilikedragons3528 2 жыл бұрын
Good...im glad anothee uninspired psudo japanese exclusive arcade game died. The way square marketed this game...man, only in japan can you get the development history and activity history that dissidia FF NT went through.
@mahmoodalmahmood7014
@mahmoodalmahmood7014 Жыл бұрын
Last night I tried to play online with my friend. 3 times in a row we got matched with bots.
@MugenLord
@MugenLord Жыл бұрын
Of course because the game is dead and has been dead for almost 3 years now XD
@Celestial_Souljah
@Celestial_Souljah Ай бұрын
NT was my favorite game on the PS4. I understand why people didn't really give it a chance. I abandoned all the RPG modes, the netcode wasn't the greatest, and a lack of non 3v3 combat hurt it. I get that, but the game was pretty great. The characters were all designed well and good matches were pretty epic. It was really fun, and it had the best DLC support of any fighting game.
@jewellcleveland2226
@jewellcleveland2226 Жыл бұрын
Personally, I’m really interested in playing Dissidia and Dissidia Duodecim 012 (the original two before NT). I always really wished that these two were able to be ported to PS5, Xbox(most recent version which IDK what they call it), and Nintendo Switch (hopefully remastered so it would be fixed from the bugs that were from the original two). I think it would be fun for those who’ve played the original two or for newcomers to experience what the original Dissidia games
@TonyKnight1208
@TonyKnight1208 11 ай бұрын
I wished this game didn't flop. I actually liked it and was so excited to play it before release. But nobody was playing it online. Sucks
@friedmarshmallows7072
@friedmarshmallows7072 Жыл бұрын
at least duodecim and opera omnia had more shit than NT and it was sad to see SE not adding more into it :(( truly disappointing
@BlackGeine
@BlackGeine Жыл бұрын
My mains were Gabranth and Cloud in both NT and 012. If you guys still play, can I join your discord please?
@MugenLord
@MugenLord Жыл бұрын
We dont okay anymore because theirs no one to play against with a full team. I would love to revive it but finding players who are willing to play as difficult. You can join my discord regardless if we ever play again or not discord.gg/mRJN4v4f
@BlackGeine
@BlackGeine Жыл бұрын
@@MugenLord I play both team and 1v1. Do you do 1v1s?
@MugenLord
@MugenLord Жыл бұрын
@@BlackGeine I dont play 1v1 the game wasnt really designed around it so its not as enjoyable for me.
@MugenLord
@MugenLord Жыл бұрын
@@BlackGeine matter of fact I dont mind trying 1v1.
@BlackGeine
@BlackGeine Жыл бұрын
@@MugenLord Good to hear. tell me when you're available. hope there won't be lag
@EBKDanteMustDie
@EBKDanteMustDie 2 жыл бұрын
yeah I gave up on this game because this was one of those games where if you didn’t have 2 friends to play with it just made it a chore to synergize with randoms and with a barebones single player and no local versus mode this was basically just a waste of money for me. I still had a lot of fun online but eventually I was just tired of depending on people who I knew either werent gonna play or would just give up on the game because they thought it was too hard.
@MugenLord
@MugenLord 2 жыл бұрын
Totally understand that was the problem for most people, I was lucky enough that my brothers and I live together. I played with Random players once and it was just horrible. No communications, missed opportunities for follow ups etc.
@EBKDanteMustDie
@EBKDanteMustDie 2 жыл бұрын
@@MugenLord yeah I’m used to 1v1 and my most played fighting game is definitely umvc3. But i had a good laugh getting cursed out by randoms (my “team mates”) when I couldn’t pull off a 1v3 with them watching me get jumped halfway from across the map lmfao. It was laughable at the very least. Frustrating but still laughable.
@arcaniumdragon2444
@arcaniumdragon2444 Жыл бұрын
That and the time it took to find matches....
@vadandrumist1670
@vadandrumist1670 Жыл бұрын
There was alot I agreed with, but a fair bit I disagreed with too. To begin with you put emphasis on the lack of customization being a failing point, but I disagree. Like other fighting games while customization is theoretically nice it isn't necessary. No, what matters most for the fundamental gameplay was how NT's was incredibly unresponsive. Now it's hard to tell in 3v3, but test in 1v1 and see just how much recovery time there is on almost every possible action. In a game where anyone could blindside you at any moment you need responsiveness as tight as possible, but this is a downgrade from even the original Dissidia. Not helping matters is the dodge no longer providing invincibility frames, resulting in situations where the literal dodge move is certain to get you hit by a chasing projectile where dashing away would not. Next, your disparagement of the story of the original PSP games. While they aren't particularly amazing any single chapter of the PSP games has more going for it than the entirety of NT. Campaign mechanics aside not only is NT's story shallow with flat characters and ridden with plot holes (most notable being Kefka appearing in two places at once in the timeline), but it is insulting the player's actually invested in the originals due to its retcons. In just watching the cutscenes the PSPs have so much more to give. Don't get me wrong, more customization would be nice, and a camping preferable, but they aren't the deal breakers. Multiplayer customization for example could have just the current as well as a class system that would allow for generalized min-maxing, and while 012 does set a bar I'd be satisfied with limited playing fields along the lines of FF13-2's level system. And finally an AI that isn't next to garbage even at the highest levels would benefit both a superior gameplay and campaign.
@combatgeek
@combatgeek 5 ай бұрын
Maybe it was the plan all along, like Avengers, SoP, or other service games SE is focusing since early 2000 and gather this way experience in service games sector, Nomura has told recently about future Dissidia, story focused and i got feeling it has simething to do with “Rebirth” and also YoshiP has told recently, Downtrial is like 2nd rebirth of FF14, everything lines up!
@kuvjason7236
@kuvjason7236 Жыл бұрын
If only they didnt outsource the work to Koei Tecmo.
@MugenLord
@MugenLord Жыл бұрын
Yea, that too XD
@KaidenKami699
@KaidenKami699 2 ай бұрын
Also for this game i really do enjoy it from time to time, i was a Lightning main and the only marksman i was good at was Yuna shes my #2 ❤ and the only real slog about this game is farming girl for items id kinda ass, I can get about 1.2k girl each gauntlet run and items can easily cost 3-4k 😭
@Low_Standards_Gaming_YT
@Low_Standards_Gaming_YT 5 ай бұрын
The bots are what killed this game for me. Due to the issue you mentioned of getting paired with them a lot due to the bad matchmaking, I’d get in these matches where the other team would identify the exploitable bots and take them out in seconds.
@MugenLord
@MugenLord 5 ай бұрын
Definitely frustrating.
@AndersonTenecela
@AndersonTenecela 2 жыл бұрын
The 8th generation has been very concerning for me as a fighting game fan because what this game, Street Fighter 5(its first two years), MVC infinite, and Nickelodeon All Star Brawl shows is that these companies are willing to shove esports down everyone’s throats expecting the games to succeeded but fail because most Dissidia fans are JRPG fans that play the first two games because they love the Final Fantasy characters and seeing them come together. These companies forget that you need to please the causal and longtime fans of the game with a ton of content before they can get invested in the game mechanics. Super Smash Bros Ultimate, Dragon Ball FighterZ, and Tekken 7 should be inspired for how to get all the types of fans to enjoy the game for years to come. There’s a reason why I have a dislike for esports because I truly believe that one day it’s gonna kill the fighting game genre and turn it into the MOBA genre which I hope never happens
@MugenLord
@MugenLord 2 жыл бұрын
Thats actually a good topic to discuss in the future, Esports really have a negative effect on Fighting games than any other genre.
@TopHatOnline
@TopHatOnline 6 ай бұрын
I hate it when a game company ruins a spin-off series with a sequel that sucked. Like for example, Sonic Free Riders killed off the Sonic Riders spin-off series. Since Square Enix is starting to get better with their games after having an identity crisis for the past 7-8 years (along with some other RPGs who suffers an identity crisis), I just hope they make a better sequel to Dissida NT. And this time as a 2D fighting game because 3D fighters, although still popular, are pretty lackluster in a competitive environment nowadays.
@pcky6646
@pcky6646 Жыл бұрын
They screwed their best game...
@goni2493
@goni2493 Жыл бұрын
All the need to do is remake the first one.
@ComfortZoneComic
@ComfortZoneComic Жыл бұрын
Oh wow 👌 respect
@maaoruzketo
@maaoruzketo 2 ай бұрын
I played the life outta the psp versions. My excitement for the game died the moment I saw how gutted the fighting was. The loss of multiple equipped HP attacks and EX bursts was a horrible decision. They should've called it something other than Dissidia because it's not remotely a sequel/upgrade to a psp game. How a psp game better than it's PS4 counterpart?
@pablotomasllodra4423
@pablotomasllodra4423 5 ай бұрын
Godlike games, goddamn awful business strategies.
@roxas13johnson86
@roxas13johnson86 Жыл бұрын
Nah nah screw that they need to bring them back from the PSP version to PlayStation console remake or remastered just saying.
@kengreg01
@kengreg01 10 ай бұрын
I dont know why youtube gave me this video but again, lets put some good comments since it seems that almost no body look the precious game that this is, more even than ff15-ff16 Hope people could understand someday
@aroccoification
@aroccoification Ай бұрын
Why didn't you guys buy SC6... It is by far the best character creator in any fighter and it's so fun. Now I don't get a 7 because you guys didn't do your part
@MugenLord
@MugenLord Ай бұрын
Soul Calibur 6? What does this have to do with Dissidia? I have SC6 and streamed it years ago.
@aroccoification
@aroccoification Ай бұрын
@@MugenLord nothing, it was just part of your intro. Obviously you played it I was speaking to the audience
@MugenLord
@MugenLord Ай бұрын
@@aroccoification I haven't watched this video in awhile forgot that I mentioned it. My bad lol
@jenkemprovides6531
@jenkemprovides6531 2 жыл бұрын
Man I really hated this game
@MugenLord
@MugenLord 2 жыл бұрын
Lol i can understand that XD
@JohnGlow2
@JohnGlow2 Жыл бұрын
Great idea, poorly executed. Seems to go hand in hand with Square, either they blow it out of the park or its a HORRIBLE blunder that can barely be salvaged. Seldom is there an in between.
@MugenLord
@MugenLord Жыл бұрын
So true.
@savagegodhandeternal7773
@savagegodhandeternal7773 2 жыл бұрын
Final Fantasy 35th Anniversary Prediction: Final Fantasy Brave Exivus Versus [Publisher by Square Enix and Bandai Namco Entertainment and Developer by Bandai Namco Entertainment] It’s Being An Spiritual Successor To Dissidia Final Fantasy
@MugenLord
@MugenLord 2 жыл бұрын
That would be cool.
@goni2493
@goni2493 Жыл бұрын
They could just remake the first game.
@AshikSorel1
@AshikSorel1 2 ай бұрын
I'm late to the party but I loved Duodecim and I know you loved NT but I couldn't stomach it. This is a classic example of SquareEnix trying to force trends it knows nothing about. A few years back Square arbitrarily declared that turned based games are "dead" and all of their new FF games are completely action based. How do you think that went? FF sales declined yet their Bravely Default series (turn-based combat) was making more profits; and they showed their disingenuous surprised pikachu face. OF COURSE It sold well! The only people that decided turn based was dead was SQUARE not their core demographic. Same with NT. They thought that, "Hey you know that amazing game we did with tons of single player content and a really nifty moveset customization with an equipment and a summon system that adds real good depth of combat?" NOBODY WANTS THAT ANYMORE! Instead lets focus on ESPORTS and specifically strip all of the complexity of movesets and summon mechanics to make everyone balanced rock paper scissor mechanic and BORING. Unpopular opinion but, I think competitive fighting games NEED to be un-balanced. It's a necessary evil to give the game some spice and the underdog's spirit of victory when there are some clear lines of which characters are good and which aren't and changing the nature of good and bad match ups. Well they changed NT and how did that turn out? AWFUL.
@KaidenKami699
@KaidenKami699 2 ай бұрын
Square killed dissidia because they didn't care for it anymore, they focused on the quick buck instead of a fleshed out dissidia game and it upsets me.
@SoulbreakerNB
@SoulbreakerNB 4 ай бұрын
I just delude myself that NT didn't exist and the last one was duodecim. I'm glad that I don't play/buy square enix games anymore. Older games are more fun than the crap they are releasing nowadays. Once I saw their logo, I just say to myself "meh. pass." lmao
@sephirothxer0
@sephirothxer0 10 ай бұрын
year late, but I wanted Auron or Vincent
@MugenLord
@MugenLord 10 ай бұрын
Never late my friend, those are some good character wishes too.
@lukedodson3441
@lukedodson3441 2 жыл бұрын
:'(
@poorlovell16
@poorlovell16 Жыл бұрын
The moment this game tried to be a 3v3 esports fighting game it lost the fgc. How many team based fighters are in esports. Refusing to add 1v1 meant they not only lost competitive players but old players at the same time. I see 3v3 fighter i see a casual game mode. Not a competitive one. This isn't a shooter were team play is key. They lost the casual playerbase with parts of the story locked behind a loot box system. No customization like you mentioned. And the story line was difficult to follow even when you did unlock everything. Missing features from the previous games. They ripped out so much and added very little. As for the rock paper scissors style combat. That has never been fun imho. Imagine 2 players of the same skill but one has type advantage. How do you justify that. The only way to get around that is to gank. then type advantage doesn't matter. Pick a target gang up until they die pick another one. Tell me again how that's fun. square took a big L on this one and blamed the fans for it not working out. I believe i saw they said there was no interest in dissidia so there won't be any more. What a joke. All theybhad to do was take the good aspects from the psp games and the 3v3 they wanted. And boom old fans get what they want. New fans see shiny new 3v3 mode with cool summons. High octane team fights. Everybody's happy. tldr: should have been old dissidia with new shiny game modes. Game failed. Square gave up. Smh R.I.P Dissidia
@lenk1432
@lenk1432 4 ай бұрын
the reason why it died is cuz they were lazy and just used the arcade version, they were trying to make a quick buck instead of doing it right and making a whole new game
@nl8784
@nl8784 2 жыл бұрын
Rank mode is entirely dead lol. The way they made it that u need a full 6 to gain or lose points with the lack of players. Makes it entirely to rank up at all. They need to consider other directions for this series. If they want to make a dissidia that has longer life cycle
@2ndstatus
@2ndstatus 2 жыл бұрын
Upload your vids on tiktok, trust me
@MugenLord
@MugenLord 2 жыл бұрын
How long can tiktok videos be?
@2ndstatus
@2ndstatus 2 жыл бұрын
@@MugenLord You can upload up to 3 minutes, but with your content, you can always cut them up to smaller pieces, and have your audience directed to your KZbin to watch the rest. TikTok also likes creators dumping videos in multiple parts, and it really puts your content out in the algorithm.
@2ndstatus
@2ndstatus 2 жыл бұрын
@@MugenLord You can also directly respond to comments by a Video Response, or host polls and stuff
@MugenLord
@MugenLord 2 жыл бұрын
@@2ndstatus Hmmm interesting!
@d6rkOfHate
@d6rkOfHate 8 ай бұрын
This game shouldve came to xbox instead since majority of you PlayStation players trash talked & dont enjoy what's given to you
@Datdaniel90
@Datdaniel90 2 ай бұрын
Ummm no
@aroccoification
@aroccoification Ай бұрын
DOA is not gready... Just becauae theres 1000$ worth of dlc doesnt mean you need to buy all of it you just get to have a lot of great options You think grocery stores are greedy for having ao many different foods in them like you have to for some reason buy all of it?
@budgiecat9039
@budgiecat9039 Жыл бұрын
Square Enix disappointments: Not localizing Tobal 2 The Bouncer (was rushed) Driving Emotion Type-S Final Fantassy Spirits Within movie Not localizing Front Mission 5 Final Fantasy Dirge of Cerberus Infinite Undiscovery The Last Remnant Star Ocean 4 Final Fantasy XIII Final Fantasy XIII-2 L:ighting Returns Final Fantasy XIII (I would too) Final Fantasy XIV 1.0 Mindjack Front Mission Evolved The Third Birthday Drakengard 3 Final Fantasy Type-Zero Legacy of Kain PC multiplayer shooter World of Final Fantasy Kingsglaive Final Fantasy (waste of time movie) Final Fantasy XV Star Ocean 5 The Quiet Man Life is Strange 2 Not porting School of Ragnorok Final Fantasy Dissidia NT Kingdom Hearts 3 Balan Wonderland Marvel's Avengers Babylon's Fall Chcobo GP Dragon Quest X Offline Forespoken
@Fayt540
@Fayt540 Жыл бұрын
Specifically removing the multiplayer aspect from the HD version of Type-0 that the PSP version actually had from the start..
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