Square root of ANY number instantly - shortcut math.

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tecmath

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This math trick allows you to work out the square root of any number - NOT JUST PERFECT SQUARES - instantly. With decimals. With ease. Can you work faster than a calculator? With this tecmath trick you just might! The math shortcut magic is back!
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@Smallpriest
@Smallpriest 2 жыл бұрын
How engineers find square roots instantly: Step 1: find the closest perfect square Done
@finnrock5558
@finnrock5558 2 жыл бұрын
As an engineer I can say that it's either this or "Ok, someone boot up MATLAB"
@Consul99
@Consul99 2 жыл бұрын
@@finnrock5558 personally I prefer to use simple tools such as calculators and physicists.
@finnrock5558
@finnrock5558 2 жыл бұрын
@@Consul99 ah yes, physicists. The best tools
@bouipozz
@bouipozz 2 жыл бұрын
@@finnrock5558 @Herp Derp You two must work for good companies, we're not allowed to claim for physicists.
@fortnite-kq7ok
@fortnite-kq7ok 2 жыл бұрын
I love this level of humor
@gangleweed
@gangleweed 3 жыл бұрын
So, now after 60+ years out of school I can finally calculate square roots mentally.
@ryangauthier3957
@ryangauthier3957 3 жыл бұрын
never too late to learn! that is what i love about the maths - i just learned a shortcut on subtracting fractions from a 2nd grader the other day!
@CTGReviews
@CTGReviews 3 жыл бұрын
Wait, you’re that old?
@tabhorian
@tabhorian 3 жыл бұрын
@@CTGReviews Yeah, but what's the square root of that?
@want-diversecontent3887
@want-diversecontent3887 3 жыл бұрын
@@ryangauthier3957 What is it? Cross multiplication?
@ryangauthier3957
@ryangauthier3957 3 жыл бұрын
@@want-diversecontent3887 actually it was subtracting mixed numbers... stack them up like a normal subtraction problem and "borrow" a whole fraction from the ones column in order to help subtract a larger fraction on the bottom. i was used/trained to find a common denom and turn them both into improper fractions, subtract the numerators and convert the answer back into a mixed number... this was kinda mind blowing to me after a couple decades of practice one way!
@grahammustoe6260
@grahammustoe6260 Жыл бұрын
The trick is actually based in calculus. It’s the Taylor series approximation using two terms for the square root function. Without reading through the hundreds of comments already made I’m sure several other people have probably mentioned this. Just shows you that calculus can be really useful! What’s really neat is that if you use a Taylor series approximation with three terms, its even closer to the exact value of the square root.
@bruhh489
@bruhh489 Жыл бұрын
how would you do it with three terms?
@ncpolley
@ncpolley Жыл бұрын
Tell us the three term trick. Wasn't able to take calc in high school.
@alexissliwak9716
@alexissliwak9716 Жыл бұрын
It just finds the slope of y = sqrt(x) at the perfect square, then does a y = mx + b using that slope. I'm not sure how this is using a Taylor series
@TFWPLSSUB
@TFWPLSSUB Жыл бұрын
Taylor series of 3 terms: f(a)+f'(a)/1!(x-a)+f''(a)/2!(x-a)^2 f(a)=a^(1/2) f'(a)=1/2a^(-1/2)=1/(2√a) (the 1st derivative, which is the slope at point a) f''(a)=-1/4a^(-3/2)=-1/(4√a^3) (the 2nd derivative, which is slope of the slope at point a) x is the point you want to find, and a is the closest number (or any number, but the accuracy won't be the same) Then you have to expand it and find the cube then bla bla bla congratulations you're accurate for maybe the 3rd digit but we will round the first digit anyways
@sagaxwiki
@sagaxwiki Жыл бұрын
@@ncpolley Basically the trick in this video is sqrt(x^2 + y) is approximately equal to x + y/(2*x). The original square root can be rewritten to be x * sqrt(1 + y/x^2). The Taylor series for something in the form sqrt(1 + z) is 1 + z/2 - z^2/8 + z^3/16 +... Using that Taylor series, the 3 term approximation would be x + y/(2*x) - y^2/(8*x^3) which is a little rough for mental math but doable. The easier way to improve the accuracy would be to use the closest square (rather than the square below) since y in the original square root can be negative or positive, and the accuracy of the Taylor series approximation is better the smaller the "z" term is.
@kessadecleene
@kessadecleene 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I stumbled across this while I was half drunk.😂😂 And I was somehow able to follow along and get them all right! I even kept the sheet to prove I get it! This taught me better than school did! Props to you mate! This is awesome!! I hated math but getting these answers right boosted the hell out of my confidence!!
@marriedwithchildren-familylife
@marriedwithchildren-familylife 2 жыл бұрын
lol, me? graduated HS in 1979; never went any further than gen math. FFWD to 2006 I found myself in college earning a BCS/IT which required algebra 1&2 and Geometry; needless to say I did not do so well with sqrt's ;) FFWD-again, to tonight and I find this video while having drank 1/2 bottle of 10 year old single malt Irish whiskey in celebration of my 61st birthday.... WHAM! 'I now can do sqrt's in my head! I'm not fast (yet). Thanks, just doesn't cut it.
@thereforeayam
@thereforeayam 2 жыл бұрын
@@marriedwithchildren-familylife the square root of half a bottle proves the Irish reverse-discovered North America
@thesomething-er1025
@thesomething-er1025 Жыл бұрын
Yea i looked at this at 10 pm and followed along fully, this guys a legend!
@dredwick
@dredwick Жыл бұрын
Are you laughing at yourself for being half drunk and scrolling through KZbin to watch math videos? Fckng boring af bro
@memirandawong
@memirandawong Жыл бұрын
I used to have a shot of Scotch before every calculus test! LOL
@-Minuano-
@-Minuano- 2 жыл бұрын
Math is fun when your “life” doesn’t depend on it. Aka grades. Edit: 13k likes!? Holy... Thank you, everyone. Also, there's a fight in the comment section lmfao. I'm very sorry I caused this chaos.
@alexanderkaiser89
@alexanderkaiser89 2 жыл бұрын
Grades is fun. They motivate you to discipline yourself into the mentality to work hard and eventually success and master it.
@lordkhan
@lordkhan 2 жыл бұрын
Good for people who can't motivate themselves without them, I guess.
@SapphireeCos
@SapphireeCos 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderkaiser89 you get judged with grades your entire life, it's hard to keep focusing always giving your best.
@alexanderkaiser89
@alexanderkaiser89 2 жыл бұрын
@@SapphireeCos As I’ve been taught and what I have researched on my own in this very topic, it firmly depends on discipline and willpower. I’ve you’re being judged by your grades, it is partially up to you, to change that very situation and your surroundings.
@Finmide
@Finmide 2 жыл бұрын
idk man it's still not fun for me even after school and not needing to worry about grades. After all I really only use the stuff from grade school in my day to day.
@mabimabi212
@mabimabi212 3 жыл бұрын
This guy is like the backdoor dealer of mathematics
@rihannasahib06
@rihannasahib06 3 жыл бұрын
FR LMFAOOO
@neelparmar6690
@neelparmar6690 3 жыл бұрын
Yo kid, you want some roots?
@gamistry2947
@gamistry2947 3 жыл бұрын
@@neelparmar6690 oOhHhH i WoUlD lIkE sOmE rOoOoOtSsSs
@gamistry2947
@gamistry2947 3 жыл бұрын
@TIV67 Playz ?????
@josephlugo4802
@josephlugo4802 3 жыл бұрын
Lol, that was a hilariously mathematical comment.
@peachycloudz6438
@peachycloudz6438 Жыл бұрын
This is actually perfect for me, I recently learned about square roots this year and this will be very useful for the years to come. Thank you
@7SeventhFromAdam
@7SeventhFromAdam 2 жыл бұрын
I was never really good at math. Learning this method actually piqued my interest with numbers. I enjoyed the challenge. Thank you!
@miabasile6004
@miabasile6004 3 жыл бұрын
"I'll give you acouple seconds to work that out" Me: Sweating A 30 second add: "I got you"
@tryfan4705
@tryfan4705 3 жыл бұрын
@TIV67 Playz dafuq
@atos_alivetoscare_5390
@atos_alivetoscare_5390 3 жыл бұрын
@TIV67 Playz Amen... B-Men, C-Men... X-Men
@tryfan4705
@tryfan4705 3 жыл бұрын
If jesus can walk on water can he swim on land
@atos_alivetoscare_5390
@atos_alivetoscare_5390 3 жыл бұрын
Demon too, I must say.
@c4g3dB34st
@c4g3dB34st 3 жыл бұрын
@TIV67 Playz well and good, will it work on how to find square root?
@bravok1lo
@bravok1lo 3 жыл бұрын
Never expected Bruce from Finding Nemo to be teaching me math tricks at 3am yet here I am
@sirhawkjames
@sirhawkjames 3 жыл бұрын
3:38am right now for me too lmao
@muhammadtroll2835
@muhammadtroll2835 3 жыл бұрын
4:09 AM
@mohammadyousif1506
@mohammadyousif1506 3 жыл бұрын
@@muhammadtroll2835 yo another Muhammad
@GowinImpact
@GowinImpact 3 жыл бұрын
Can you explain me...i don't get it.
@mohammadyousif1506
@mohammadyousif1506 3 жыл бұрын
@@GowinImpact same voice
@parisgreen4600
@parisgreen4600 Жыл бұрын
This is great! I always thought I was 'bad at math' until I took a VERY basic course in my 40s and discovered that, not only can I do math well enough to get by, but it's actually fun. Your video presentation is super clear and friendly. I was able to do all the problems the first time through; going to check out your other videos now. Thank you!
@podcastsio
@podcastsio 6 ай бұрын
Can u give link for that course
@mixedreamz7324
@mixedreamz7324 2 жыл бұрын
So excited to be watching this on a Saturday morning.
@MineSweeper-bg8un
@MineSweeper-bg8un 3 жыл бұрын
I can't believe how much an 8 minute video expanded my brain by
@barbozafernandezclaudioema1585
@barbozafernandezclaudioema1585 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@greatmnn3868
@greatmnn3868 3 жыл бұрын
It came from Binomial theorem.... It is Approximation of infinite series.....
@duk8227
@duk8227 3 жыл бұрын
Lol. I mean its only useful for lower grades like grade 8 because in higher grades u would prob need more exact numbers
@greatmnn3868
@greatmnn3868 3 жыл бұрын
@@duk8227 bro, its from Binomial Theorem .... If at higher level you need more digits... Them Expand it more and more..... Its infinite series....... You can get whatever amt u need...
@MrTrollo2
@MrTrollo2 3 жыл бұрын
@@greatmnn3868 u can just type in a calculator and get the correct result. The trick might be interesting in some cases to get the first decimal number but if you are able to estimate the root by taking the root of the next smaller quadratic number you have a reasonable estimation already. In other words, this is useless on any level.
@MalarkeyMan
@MalarkeyMan 4 жыл бұрын
Why does this get recommended the day after my test
@Ray-td4gk
@Ray-td4gk 4 жыл бұрын
And why does this get recommended on day when my friend said this is magic and i will never get it on internet
@sweetygupta972
@sweetygupta972 4 жыл бұрын
Badluck I guess ?.....
@Anonymous-zd1ow
@Anonymous-zd1ow 4 жыл бұрын
This is KZbin's idea of a joke.
@MalarkeyMan
@MalarkeyMan 4 жыл бұрын
0g1f I want to pass the test
@NROS2012
@NROS2012 4 жыл бұрын
Because you were probably talking a lot about your test near your phone/ Siri / Alexa or texting or messaging about it. Your phone and apps listen to you and analyse your messages and then adverts and marketing appear to suit what your talking about.
@ThePiMan0903
@ThePiMan0903 Жыл бұрын
Very nice and helpful sir! This is very useful for estimating radicals. Thanks again!
@Alad-
@Alad- Жыл бұрын
What a nice, easy and quick method. The 7.2m views are well deserved. The Simple and comprehensible explanation is the icing on the cake👍
@Birju_Maharaj
@Birju_Maharaj 4 жыл бұрын
Note : this trick is actually quite good in competitive exams where approximations work,,, thanks
@kankanmalakar
@kankanmalakar 4 жыл бұрын
BHAI BANKING ASPIRANT HAI KYA?
@Birju_Maharaj
@Birju_Maharaj 4 жыл бұрын
@@kankanmalakar no bro
@Birju_Maharaj
@Birju_Maharaj 4 жыл бұрын
@Ronak Bhadarka anywhere where calculator isn't allowed
@mikatu
@mikatu 4 жыл бұрын
maybe in your exams.... in mine, you really had to give the correct answer. Ah, but I am from a developed country, not from india....
@Birju_Maharaj
@Birju_Maharaj 4 жыл бұрын
@@mikatu and that's why u don't know the jugaad technology we use for the optimum utilisation of the resources available to us😉
@Kiiohru
@Kiiohru 3 жыл бұрын
This is a good place to get my brain cells back after seeing tiktoks
@somakiran3263
@somakiran3263 3 жыл бұрын
LmaoXD
@nervto2398
@nervto2398 2 жыл бұрын
Just took a devious lick of knowledge 😜
@mo-vz2xk
@mo-vz2xk 2 жыл бұрын
@@nervto2398 cringe tiktok 0 braincells user
@nervto2398
@nervto2398 2 жыл бұрын
@@mo-vz2xk thank you
@Sean-dl4fh
@Sean-dl4fh 2 жыл бұрын
@@nervto2398 I have never felt more disgusted just by reading words
@THEMUDBUSTERS4
@THEMUDBUSTERS4 2 жыл бұрын
Stuff like this is why I always enjoyed math in school. I loved learning these cool tricks.
@benruniko
@benruniko Жыл бұрын
I love this! It is a trick i never knew, and now square root approximations are easy! Thank you!!!
@user-fy4ur5im4q
@user-fy4ur5im4q 3 жыл бұрын
I trust this man with my life.
@tryfan4705
@tryfan4705 3 жыл бұрын
@TIV67 Playz no
@noahr.hopkins2800
@noahr.hopkins2800 3 жыл бұрын
@TIV67 Playz Jesus is coming indeed bro!
@CH-yt6qi
@CH-yt6qi 3 жыл бұрын
Ooof…I misread that you trust this man with your wife…
@Sidguru101
@Sidguru101 2 жыл бұрын
@@CH-yt6qi same 🤡🤒
@whenly6690
@whenly6690 2 жыл бұрын
@TIV67 Playz these guys are getting annoying
@u8f7
@u8f7 2 жыл бұрын
Here's how this works algebraically: Let √c = a + b, where a represents the whole number component of the answer, a ∈ Z, and b represents the decimal component, 0 < b < 1 c = (a + b)² c = a² + 2ab + b² Now solve for b: 2ab = c - a² - b² b = (c - a² - b²)/2a b² (the decimal component squared) will be very small, so we can ignore it therefore, b ≈ (c - a²)/2a in other words, b ≈ the original number, c, minus the nearest perfect square below it (the whole number component squared), all over 2a: which is the formula given in the video for working out the non-whole number part of the answer e.g. √27 = 5 +b 27 = (5 + b)² 27 = 25 + 10b + b² 10b = 27 - 25 - b² b = (27 - 25 - b²)/10 b ≈ (27 - 25)/10 b ≈ 0.2 √27 ≈ 5 + 0.2 = 5.2 As further proof, the approximate answer will always be out from the actual answer by a margin of b²/2a: 5.2 - 5.196... = (0.196...)²/10
@felipearrais5415
@felipearrais5415 2 жыл бұрын
Should have more likes. Thanks for the explanation.
@mr.niceguy1706
@mr.niceguy1706 2 жыл бұрын
My brain has not developed that kind of math yet
@toren1426
@toren1426 2 жыл бұрын
woah! that’s interesting, but i sure don’t care!
@raehaa3343
@raehaa3343 2 жыл бұрын
*sweats tears*
@Joe_Mama.also_YTHandlessuckass
@Joe_Mama.also_YTHandlessuckass 2 жыл бұрын
So simple
@hiwotteka8987
@hiwotteka8987 Жыл бұрын
Thank you tecmath you have made calculating the square root of any number so easy. I have been watching other videos and they made it so complicated. I am speecheless
@seanscr
@seanscr 2 жыл бұрын
This video came in my recommendations and wow, just wow. It blows my mind. You've my subscribe.
@publiusii4246
@publiusii4246 2 жыл бұрын
This is actually impressively precise. For my own enjoyment I wrote a script that used this method for the root of every number up to a million. The highest margin of error was a little over a fifth for the root of three. With precision trending to increase proportional to the size of the number. By the time you reach thirty the number is accurate to +/-0.1
@brma3124
@brma3124 2 жыл бұрын
Did this method ever guess low? Seemed like all the examples in the video slightly overestimated the true value.
@WhatsAGoodName42069
@WhatsAGoodName42069 2 жыл бұрын
It gets better if you adjust it a but, if the number is closer to the next highest square rather than the previous lower square. You use that higher square and subtract much like he adds. So 34 would be 6 - 2/12 = 5.83. But who wants to do subtraction, amirite
@publiusii4246
@publiusii4246 2 жыл бұрын
@@WhatsAGoodName42069 I noticed that as well and came to the same conclusion. Considering I was happy with the root of 87 is nine and a bit before this video. I'll take accurate to a tenth and not do subtraction.
@Geweldenaar
@Geweldenaar 2 жыл бұрын
But if you got a really big number like 938993 how do you know what the nearest whole square root number is
@publiusii4246
@publiusii4246 2 жыл бұрын
@@Geweldenaar that's memorization my friend. Personally I only know up to 20squared off the dome. And that's fine by me I give up on mental arithmetic in the mid 3 digits anyway.
@loganrhill
@loganrhill 3 жыл бұрын
Alternate title: Thor teaches you how to solve square roots :)
@alexthealex7492
@alexthealex7492 3 жыл бұрын
BRUH I DIDN'T NOTICE TILL NOW
@alexthealex7492
@alexthealex7492 3 жыл бұрын
@TIV67 Playz Does Jesus love Gidon?
@someone_2928
@someone_2928 2 жыл бұрын
@TIV67 Playz amen
@extestential6638
@extestential6638 2 жыл бұрын
Hes austrailan tho
@halfbloodbrit2518
@halfbloodbrit2518 2 жыл бұрын
@@extestential6638 One clearly does not understand what a joke is
@ernjdasdd
@ernjdasdd 2 жыл бұрын
Well to be technical, the square root would be much easier when comparing the remainder number to the next closest perfect square. So 36 squared is 6, but we have 3 left over from the 39, the next closest square is 49, the difference betwen 36 and 49 is 13, so we have our remainder over the difference. The square root of 39 is 6 and 3/13ths.
@ndean1687
@ndean1687 Жыл бұрын
I totally LOVE this method! THANK YOU!!!
@AdamKlownzinger
@AdamKlownzinger 2 жыл бұрын
Actually said “YOOOO” and had to walk around for a second because the math hit too good LMAO
@rudecrok4734
@rudecrok4734 2 жыл бұрын
WTF SAME
@crimsonneko
@crimsonneko 2 жыл бұрын
I guess it works for people who can convert fractions into decimals in an instant, but since I am not one of those people, this method doesn't help me too much.
@BingQiLing.
@BingQiLing. 2 жыл бұрын
@@crimsonneko fractions to percentage is harder
@crimsonneko
@crimsonneko 2 жыл бұрын
@@BingQiLing. not really. Once you have the decimal you just move the decimal place 2 times to the right and then you have your percent.
@elormavevor6504
@elormavevor6504 6 жыл бұрын
If anyone wants to know how this works, it essentially uses the fact (x+a)² = x²+2ax+a² For example, √(37) is a little more than 6 so call that little extra bit a Then √(37) = 6+a Squaring both sides gets 37 = 36 + 12a + a² 1 = 12a + a² Since a is small, a² is small and can be ignored thus a ≈ 1/12 so √(37) ≈ 6+1/12 Approximations are better when a is smallest (the number being rooted is large and close to a perfect square)
@elormavevor6504
@elormavevor6504 6 жыл бұрын
You can get better approximations by then saying √(37) = (73/12 + a) and repeating the process
@evanwalsh4173
@evanwalsh4173 5 жыл бұрын
You guys are nerds
@undertraper
@undertraper 5 жыл бұрын
Watching the video at 2am, couldnt sleep bc the interest was carving inside of me, thnks for saving my sleep.
@lexsi693
@lexsi693 5 жыл бұрын
@@undertraper same. here its now 3am ^^"
@katiekat1843
@katiekat1843 5 жыл бұрын
i dont understand...cause im still in elementry school...
@jalalraza1313
@jalalraza1313 2 жыл бұрын
This is an awesome trick so glad to have learned it, mental math techniques like this are too rare in modern education
@tin-man5687
@tin-man5687 2 жыл бұрын
Dang... That's actually rather fun to do. Thanks for the tip. 👍
@nicoletion1729
@nicoletion1729 3 жыл бұрын
the way this came out 3 hours before my scholarship exam starts thank you
@safwanshahriar4108
@safwanshahriar4108 3 жыл бұрын
U should thank the youtube algorithm.
@prashantsinha6781
@prashantsinha6781 3 жыл бұрын
@@safwanshahriar4108 yeah. lol
@sseblante
@sseblante 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, how'd it go?
@nicoletion1729
@nicoletion1729 2 жыл бұрын
@@sseblante it went great! i actually passed and now im a scholar! 👍
@kamranahmad6678
@kamranahmad6678 2 жыл бұрын
@@nicoletion1729 Congratulations 😁
@zaccandels6695
@zaccandels6695 4 жыл бұрын
For anyone who's curious: This is based on a linear Taylor Series approximation of the square root function. For example- Sqrt(x + dx) ~ sqrt (x) + (1/2)(dx)(1/sqrt(x)) And this is exactly what he's doing
@absxn
@absxn 3 жыл бұрын
neat
@aSeaofTroubles
@aSeaofTroubles 3 жыл бұрын
There is also an elementary reason for this, for non-calculus students.
@gardening_vibes
@gardening_vibes 3 жыл бұрын
@@aSeaofTroubles then tell about it please
@iRaT55
@iRaT55 3 жыл бұрын
@@JonathanBartlesSWBGaming the formula in the video comes out from the taylor series with an error of the first degree. So they are using the same way to calculate it.
@johngreen3543
@johngreen3543 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, for doing this. It saves me the trouble.
@wild_lee_coyote
@wild_lee_coyote Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Richard Feynman when an abacus salesman challenged him to a math contest. Ended in a square root contest. Feynman won because the number was close to a perfect square and he could quickly refine the number. That and doing square roots on an abacus is very labor intensive.
@JulianShagworthy
@JulianShagworthy 2 жыл бұрын
This can be improved slightly by choosing the CLOSEST perfect square as opposed to just picking the one below. For the sqrt 138 example, choose 12^2 = 144, then SUBTRACT 6/24 (which is the same as 1/4) from 12, leaving 11.75 as the answer, which is closer than the 11.77 obtained using the original method.
@palman8480
@palman8480 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you I'll remember this
@colehindes6235
@colehindes6235 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it can be done for any power if you subtract your real number from the nearest perfect and take the derivative of the constant where the number is x and adding that to the perfect power
@colehindes6235
@colehindes6235 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry that sounded very confusing pretty much f(x)+f’(x)(a-x)
@Compucles
@Compucles 2 жыл бұрын
It also gets improved just by adding 1 (or subtracting 1 if calculating from the perfect square above) to the denominators, such that sqrt(138) = about 11 & 17/23, which is about 11.739 (compared to the real answer of about 11.747). It works better this way, since (n+1)^2 - n^2 = 2n + 1 (or in this case, 12^2 - 11^2 = 11*2+1 or 144 - 121 = 23) rather than 2n.
@ronnymcpherson4609
@ronnymcpherson4609 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@herculesbeats8499
@herculesbeats8499 6 жыл бұрын
How to get answers wrong.. but CLOSE!
@MaximilianBerkmann
@MaximilianBerkmann 5 жыл бұрын
From all the sqrt approximation calculations I've seen so far this one and Andrew's are the most reliable.
@paulie5B
@paulie5B 5 жыл бұрын
VF7 how to estimate without a calculator dingbat
@MaximilianBerkmann
@MaximilianBerkmann 5 жыл бұрын
@nano bot27 It's called approximation.
@reznovvazileski3193
@reznovvazileski3193 5 жыл бұрын
It's called aproximation. My astrophysics teacher always says: "ah well it's the same power of 10 right?". It's just a matter of how accurate you require your result to be whether you want to use this or not :P
@weinerglory
@weinerglory 5 жыл бұрын
@@paulie5B it's actually possible to calculate more accurately but you need a lot more space for paper
@CJBrunt
@CJBrunt Жыл бұрын
Finally a useful maths trick demonstration on YT. Thanks.
@AndreLuiz-lm9iz
@AndreLuiz-lm9iz 3 жыл бұрын
He did not tell you that in the video, but in case the sqrt is closest to a full number higher than itself, you should use that instead, and your second part of the answer (that comes after the point) will be negative. You'll do the division normally, and then subtract from the big number (i.e. closest full number that stays in front) and you'll get your answer. Example: sqrt of 24, you'll go for 25, and the subtraction will lead to 5 -1/10, which is 4.90. The actual answer is 4.89
@vyomagrawal4141
@vyomagrawal4141 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@mike_slav0477
@mike_slav0477 2 жыл бұрын
no the answer actually is 4.9 when you round it up
@AndreLuiz-lm9iz
@AndreLuiz-lm9iz 2 жыл бұрын
@@mike_slav0477 the point of this method is that it's a simpler version of an approximation equation. You'll never get the exact same number unless you round it up. I simply wanted to show that you should use the closer number even if it's a higher one. If you were to use ✓16 it wouldn't work. That's all there is to it
@najwaalmira3566
@najwaalmira3566 2 жыл бұрын
thanks lov
@finisher9505
@finisher9505 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you a lot
@Strangevil
@Strangevil 5 жыл бұрын
it's difficult to find the nearest perfect square if the number is very large.
@Minecraftgnom
@Minecraftgnom 5 жыл бұрын
But only needing to know a nearby square to estimate a root can really help at times. :D
@DonVigaDeFierro
@DonVigaDeFierro 4 жыл бұрын
It's difficult to do any operation when numbers are very large.
@redsgxd
@redsgxd 4 жыл бұрын
Its difficult to find larger numbers but its closer the larger you go.
@Fritzafella
@Fritzafella 4 жыл бұрын
​@@redsgxd Esitmating the sqrt of something large is still still relativly easy using this method, your error just gets bigger. Just Divide your number by 100 until it is smaller than 100. ex 32767=100*100*3.2767 sqrt using the above method (That I will modefy slightly for increased accuracy) 4 (closest square) -3.2767= .7233 so you get 2-(.7233/((2-1)*2))=1.819 then cuz we divided by 100 (or 10^2) twice multiply back by 10*10 and your final answer is 181.9 sqrt(32767) is exactly 181.1..... so still reasonably accurate
@soulswordobrigadosegostar
@soulswordobrigadosegostar 4 жыл бұрын
That's the disadvantage of it,it kind of breaks with bigger numbers
@perennialxennial
@perennialxennial Жыл бұрын
Wow dude, you made this so easy to understand, thanks...
@angelinasurzhyk6655
@angelinasurzhyk6655 2 жыл бұрын
This trick is really helpful and the guy is so chill :D
@christiantasidaily
@christiantasidaily 2 жыл бұрын
“Yeah, you should be able to work that out by now” *starts sweating profoundly*
@alyssa6735
@alyssa6735 2 жыл бұрын
Right
@mydickisunbelievablysmallb8132
@mydickisunbelievablysmallb8132 2 жыл бұрын
*profusely
@christiantasidaily
@christiantasidaily 2 жыл бұрын
Na
@josephlugo4802
@josephlugo4802 3 жыл бұрын
This guy's like the breaking bad of mathematics. This is methmatics. lol
@interestedperson174
@interestedperson174 3 жыл бұрын
i applaud you i am so proud
@e_hland
@e_hland 2 жыл бұрын
3:33 how does its 6.25 I cant understand
@lanzhaan8767
@lanzhaan8767 2 жыл бұрын
@@e_hland i think it's 6.25 because 3/12= 0.25 and he added that to 6.
@moritz4787
@moritz4787 2 жыл бұрын
@@e_hland 3 is 25% of 12 thats why bro
@moritz4787
@moritz4787 2 жыл бұрын
and 25% equals 0.25
@ypaulbrown
@ypaulbrown 2 жыл бұрын
this is fantastic, sq roots are something I need all the time in working with triangles....cheers from Orlando, Florida...Paul
@christinasmart1646
@christinasmart1646 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this!
@p4scol3s
@p4scol3s 4 жыл бұрын
i don’t need sleep, I need answers.
@lolzhunter
@lolzhunter 4 жыл бұрын
it essentially uses the fact (x+a)² = x²+2ax+a² For example, √(37) is a little more than 6 so call that little extra bit a Then √(37) = 6+a Squaring both sides gets 37 = 36 + 12a + a² 1 = 12a + a² Since a is small, a² is small and can be ignored thus a ≈ 1/12 so √(37) ≈ 6+1/12 Approximations are better when a is smallest (the number being rooted is large and close to a perfect square) (copied off another comment)
@RajSinghTanwar_
@RajSinghTanwar_ 4 жыл бұрын
@@lolzhunter lol dude get a life
@magnusanderson6681
@magnusanderson6681 4 жыл бұрын
​@@RajSinghTanwar_ Somehow I find it less lively to boast ignorance than to share knowledge. Might just be me though.
@RajSinghTanwar_
@RajSinghTanwar_ 4 жыл бұрын
@@magnusanderson6681 stfu you aint got no life so how can you boast cuz u aint got nothin to boast bout lol
@nekso3760
@nekso3760 4 жыл бұрын
@@RajSinghTanwar_ Clearly, the guy mentioned that he copied the comment. I would recommend you to stop being so ignorant and a recalcitrant person as he was only helping the other person. If you're a person who can only say to other people to "go get a life" - then I say you're the one who needs to get a life. Thank you :) Note: pls spread happiness and harmony. It's not hard
@TSfish94
@TSfish94 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe how simple this is. Definitely wish I knew about this 10 years ago.
@dankmemes8254
@dankmemes8254 2 жыл бұрын
I was stunned at how stupidly easy it is
@tropheusanims698
@tropheusanims698 2 жыл бұрын
Fr
@feeldog1019
@feeldog1019 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but on a test basically all those decimals are wrong so you would have the wrong answer
@Bilbo1teaBaggins
@Bilbo1teaBaggins 2 жыл бұрын
@@feeldog1019 I think it helps to see the number in a "normal" form so its easier to understand
@TSfish94
@TSfish94 2 жыл бұрын
@@feeldog1019 depends on the instructor. I had a chemistry teacher that would allow you to approximate your answer if you could prove your answer was reasonable. Usually this was only on tests where calculators weren’t allowed, but it’s worth noting. Plus with this method you could trivialize multiple choice questions by going with whatever’s closest to your result.
@meanderingbird286
@meanderingbird286 8 ай бұрын
As always, our brothers from down under keep the content Crisp and Clear with a minimum of fuss and fluff. Thanks for sharing 👍
@pentameteriamb6196
@pentameteriamb6196 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed that a lot. Thanks matey! :-)
@hasiburrahman5637
@hasiburrahman5637 3 жыл бұрын
Less than 1 month remaining for my competitive exam, and i have found the channel. I'm feeling blessed
@hasiburrahman5637
@hasiburrahman5637 3 жыл бұрын
@You dont know me I'm from Bangladesh, and its my undergraduate admission exam!
@ARealTaco
@ARealTaco 3 жыл бұрын
@@hasiburrahman5637 how’s you do
@cheddarbob8368
@cheddarbob8368 2 жыл бұрын
@@hasiburrahman5637 how’d u do
@justlocar
@justlocar 2 жыл бұрын
update
@nickdiaz6766
@nickdiaz6766 2 жыл бұрын
Poke update
@Kangakool
@Kangakool 3 жыл бұрын
Why didn’t I get taught this in school? They ask about estimating square roots on the gre and other advanced tests, this would have been so helpful.
@absalon1992
@absalon1992 3 жыл бұрын
Cause School doesnt teach you anything
@spoopyscaryskelebones3846
@spoopyscaryskelebones3846 3 жыл бұрын
@@absalon1992 not even a little smidgy widgy?
@absalon1992
@absalon1992 3 жыл бұрын
@@spoopyscaryskelebones3846 What
@yahirdoesbadvids
@yahirdoesbadvids 3 жыл бұрын
@@spoopyscaryskelebones3846 nah the smidgy widgy is taught only by the ancient ones.
@eljahihamgottin4540
@eljahihamgottin4540 3 жыл бұрын
@@spoopyscaryskelebones3846 Smidgy Widgy is an infamous art. You think schools are going to teach that? You have to travel out to the himalayas and speak to master Wu to learn Smidgy Widgy.
@jeigheff
@jeigheff 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful! Thanks!
@theoriginalpauly
@theoriginalpauly Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this! I use right triangles to estimate distances, and I usually end up digging out my phone to use the calculator. This method is 100% close enough for my needs, so I'm probably going to use it almost every day. OMG, I wish I had gone looking for this earlier...
@finnrock5558
@finnrock5558 2 жыл бұрын
I made a quick excel spreadsheet and graphed the percent errors of this method. The %error curve is a sawtooth pattern, but the peaks look to be decaying exponentially. This is very interesting, thanks for sharing.
@Blitztein_beta
@Blitztein_beta 2 жыл бұрын
-Can you show us an image of the graph?-
@baked_beanz0522
@baked_beanz0522 2 жыл бұрын
@@Blitztein_beta how would they do that 🤣
@TheMrk790
@TheMrk790 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah its because the taylor series is just the sum of the derivatives devided by the faculty of the index (nth derivative/n!). As we are only using the first summand of that series, the rest of the series is our error. Now this sum for the sqrt of x looks like an exponential of 1/x, if you look at the series formulation of exp. Thus you get the exponential decrease in the peaks. P.S. thought about it again. It is just wrong.
@pato1541
@pato1541 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMrk790 you know what's insane, anyone that understood what you said knows you're just bloviating and anyone who doesn't, doesn't care about what you're saying.
@Nuisance_Bear
@Nuisance_Bear 2 жыл бұрын
@@pato1541 what if you’re too dumb to know what he’s saying but still smart enough to know he’s just stroking his own ego
@togishere
@togishere 2 жыл бұрын
They should literally teach this in schools. I'd say 7th grade would be a good time to learn this. (Or maybe don't teach it, just so your viewers have an edge over the average person :))
@professorx3060
@professorx3060 2 жыл бұрын
But this is learned at school, infinite series approximation
@eitankalfa7836
@eitankalfa7836 2 жыл бұрын
No they shouldn’t, he is doing this through a method of calculus, which is hard to understand that early
@eitankalfa7836
@eitankalfa7836 2 жыл бұрын
@Milo Dog mabye, but either way this isnt rly useful cause u usually can just use a calculator.
@carlcool20
@carlcool20 2 жыл бұрын
@@eitankalfa7836 Nahh this is extremely useful for competitive exams where the calculator isn't allowed
@knightenchanter7908
@knightenchanter7908 2 жыл бұрын
@@eitankalfa7836 calculators should never be allowed in schools. It's good at making you bad at math and nothing more. Everything should be done manually. There are more ways to calculate square root manually than this. They could teach those if this is too difficult.
@OwlCodes
@OwlCodes 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video! This helps me so much in class.
@blutey
@blutey 2 жыл бұрын
Great. 45 years ago, a school friend could do square roots of integers in his head like this and we were always amazed, but never knew how he did it. He of course never let on on the trick. Now all is revealed!
@sirwaffel5236
@sirwaffel5236 4 жыл бұрын
He's talking like there's someone sleeping in the next room
@johnnations5932
@johnnations5932 3 жыл бұрын
Or the same room:)
@billybobthornton8122
@billybobthornton8122 3 жыл бұрын
Shhhhh!
@barpsoon3031
@barpsoon3031 3 жыл бұрын
An SJW.
@D.KlWA-aG
@D.KlWA-aG 3 жыл бұрын
The sleeping elephant holding its ears
@harryroberts388
@harryroberts388 3 жыл бұрын
Cause he's an aussie
@cursed_cats5710
@cursed_cats5710 2 жыл бұрын
I stumbled upon something similar to this a few years ago and presented my technique to the math class. Teacher was convinced enough to let us use the technique over the slower "multiply 'til you find it" method in the curriculum.
@taylorlane8257
@taylorlane8257 2 жыл бұрын
Why is this fun for meeeeee. Thanks for sharing!!!! So much less stressful learning this way when it's just in my free time and not like school at all. 😭😭😭
@danlambert1061
@danlambert1061 8 ай бұрын
BRILLIANT. Where were you when I was in grade school!! Thank you!!!
@kaydonmartin1737
@kaydonmartin1737 2 жыл бұрын
It is also possible to start with the closest square root above and subtract the fraction as shown. Example root138 = 12 - (6/24). Root 138 = 11.75. Good luck!
@AntonioNoack
@AntonioNoack 2 жыл бұрын
you can also apply this same step to your won approximation. It will be a littler harder to calculate, but it will improve your results :) e.g. use 138-11.75², and then 11.75 + difference / (2*11.75) Because it's Newtons Method, and you can use as many iterations, as you like :)
@GahloWake
@GahloWake 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if it becomes more accurate to do it to the closest suqare, since in that example you were spot on while the video was off by 0.02.
@rtyk1
@rtyk1 2 жыл бұрын
@@GahloWake Yes, it would be more accurate to do it to the closest square. How the trick works is it uses the common school formula (a+b)^2 = a^2+2ab+b^2, sets a as the lower perfect square so that 0 < b < 1, and then assumes that b^2 is small enough to ignore. If you go to the closest square (sometimes above), what you are doing is reducing the size of b^2, in other words reducing the error of the trick
@acoolcat4269
@acoolcat4269 2 жыл бұрын
@@AntonioNoack use normal english. im mere mortal i do not speak the language of the gods.
@shubhgulati
@shubhgulati 2 жыл бұрын
This actually makes the trick more accurate, trying for root 15 by the addition method will give 4, but the subtraction method you suggested (essentially follow the closest perfect square and do accordingly) gave 3.875, which is very very close.
@amitav1129
@amitav1129 5 жыл бұрын
For 138, we can also do square root of 144 minus the difference/double of the √144 =12- 6/24 =12-.25 =11.75
@HritwRaje
@HritwRaje 5 жыл бұрын
Square root *
@erickzaragoza1239
@erickzaragoza1239 5 жыл бұрын
THX
@ucanhha4956
@ucanhha4956 5 жыл бұрын
The smaller the difference is, the closer you get the answer
@ejay467
@ejay467 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe even if its lesser or greater, atleast the most closest will be more accurate.
@markvincentordiz
@markvincentordiz 4 жыл бұрын
more closer
@senkumeow5095
@senkumeow5095 Жыл бұрын
Man,you're making me fall in love with math once again
@JahsehOnMyWrist
@JahsehOnMyWrist Жыл бұрын
Very neat trick! Thanks
@Tsskyx
@Tsskyx 8 жыл бұрын
For smaller numbers, you can get a much better approximation if you calculate a square root of a number that's 100 bigger and then divide the result by 10, so sqrt(2) = sqrt(200)/10. This is because the higher the number is, the better the approximation will be.
@dggoldst
@dggoldst 6 жыл бұрын
Great tip deep in the comments!
@eddysetiawan2329
@eddysetiawan2329 6 жыл бұрын
This should be pinned
@traveler1491
@traveler1491 6 жыл бұрын
Great tip.
@MRU2be
@MRU2be 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah ! but finding the required intuitive square root of 8700 (93) is far more complicated than 87 (9). The final fraction becomes also more challenging (51 / 186). You get of course your loved 93.27 / 10 = 9.327.
@ronalddump4061
@ronalddump4061 5 жыл бұрын
In the end, it would be far better to just take a few minutes to learn to do the real method for finding square roots to as many digits as you desire. You are not gaining anything at all by trying to learn these "tricks" What I am suggesting is that you have no business learning "tricks" to do something, until after you have actually learned a functional method to do that something.
@twisted5576
@twisted5576 2 жыл бұрын
I love how he keeps asking how you did, it's one of the many things he does to make this video nice and engaging
@rasyadrizal1937
@rasyadrizal1937 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your help.
@bananaanimations2003
@bananaanimations2003 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for this mate
@Mahesh_Shenoy
@Mahesh_Shenoy 7 жыл бұрын
It would be nice if you could show why this is true? Differential calculus. So we should thank Newton for this :P Say you need to calculate root(x+ dx) where dx is much smaller than x Here x is the nearest perfect square, and dx is the extra number We say let y = root(x) and y+dy = root(x+dx) Our goal is to find dy, we can differentiate y dy/dx = 1/2root(x) Or dy = dx/2root(x) Hence our final answer is root(x+dx) = root(x) + dx/2 root(x) You can now understand why he is taking that extra number, and dividing by the double of root of the nearest perfect square. This also explains, why you cannot use this method for squaring numbers, where the extra number is comparable to the nearest perfect square, the differential approximation works best when dx is much smaller than x (atleast 1 order of magnitude, else you get horrible answers :P)
@zainabgulshanara922
@zainabgulshanara922 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. :) It feels good to know why certain simple methods work.
@aaronclark2599
@aaronclark2599 7 жыл бұрын
you can also try looking up "binomial theorem" if you are not that familiar with calculus. this approximation is the first two terms in the expansion of (a^2 + b)^(1/2). you can also use (a^2 - b)^(1/2) as others have pointed out, if it gives you a smaller "b". the smaller the value of "b" gets compared to "a", the better the approximation gets. this is because it makes the terms you are ignoring in the binomial expansion after the first and second become smaller faster. this is why he says to use the perfect square closest to the number you are taking the root of.
@wduandy
@wduandy 7 жыл бұрын
You mean the Newton-Raphson method?
@fatumasulieman2666
@fatumasulieman2666 7 жыл бұрын
no science here
@fatumasulieman2666
@fatumasulieman2666 7 жыл бұрын
true
@gisellep.5331
@gisellep.5331 6 жыл бұрын
2+2 is 4 -1 is 3 Quick maths
@monstaman5386
@monstaman5386 6 жыл бұрын
God left the server.
@T1bonkyou
@T1bonkyou 6 жыл бұрын
Giselle P. Wrong. According to your statement: 2+2=4 -1=3 -1 never equals 3 A more correct statement would be 2 plus 2 equals 4 4 minus 1 equals 3. Curb your memes.
@T1bonkyou
@T1bonkyou 5 жыл бұрын
Jenshie 02 yeah but he forgot to put 4-1, he just said -1 is 3. Curb your memes.
@T1bonkyou
@T1bonkyou 5 жыл бұрын
Jenshie 02 oh and he misspelled "maths" it's mafs
@T1bonkyou
@T1bonkyou 5 жыл бұрын
acrilico 3451 ah you clearly don't understand the meme "curb your memes" it's a fkn joke. R/WHOOSH
@jonathansule5813
@jonathansule5813 2 жыл бұрын
Great video mate
@Klonion_009
@Klonion_009 Жыл бұрын
Wow I just learned more in ten minutes from youtube than I learn in algebra 1 honors in an entire week
@vizender
@vizender 4 жыл бұрын
Me at the begening : lol he is just gonna say « use a calculator » At the end : yep, pretty accurate
@anjaninator
@anjaninator 4 жыл бұрын
How
@bengraham9448
@bengraham9448 3 жыл бұрын
Beginning*
@ViewoPlays
@ViewoPlays 3 жыл бұрын
No it’s not.
@smalltrashman4227
@smalltrashman4227 3 жыл бұрын
What are you talking about. He didn't say anything remotely similar to that.
@enterchannelname7514
@enterchannelname7514 2 жыл бұрын
@@bengraham9448 biggenengue*
@T4ckyy
@T4ckyy 4 жыл бұрын
Chinese adults: *this 2nd grade in china*
@imanand101
@imanand101 4 жыл бұрын
Indian kid: Hold my Mathmatics Notebook 😂😂
@Chill-yv4gg
@Chill-yv4gg 4 жыл бұрын
anand kashyap OMG RIGHT 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂👳🏾
@issyzh
@issyzh 4 жыл бұрын
Unless you’re Chinese, that’s very racist :)) edit: I'm chinese, btw
@zzztriplezzz5264
@zzztriplezzz5264 4 жыл бұрын
TheAnimationGalaxy it’s not VERY racist but it is a stereotype and can offend some people
@gillianross7225
@gillianross7225 4 жыл бұрын
Nice job conforming to be in a rasict who uses hurtful stereotypes
@TushhsuT
@TushhsuT Жыл бұрын
that is just ridiculously simple and awesome!
@Sar0429
@Sar0429 2 жыл бұрын
I have to start exams in a few days. This is a huge help, thanks alot! :D
@MathyMegaMan
@MathyMegaMan 2 жыл бұрын
One improvement: Add 1 to the doubled number in the denominator. So, instead of calculating the square root of 27 as 5 + 2/10, do it as 5 + 2/11. On average, this cuts the amount that any given solution is off from the actual amount by half.
@kid8467
@kid8467 2 жыл бұрын
genius.
@txtce
@txtce 2 жыл бұрын
yeh but kinda a hard fraction to work out mentally
@MathyMegaMan
@MathyMegaMan 2 жыл бұрын
@@txtce In this case, definitely, but if we were doing, say, the square root of 94, which would be 9 + 13/18 with their method, and 9 + 13/19 with mine, I wouldn't say that 13/19 is that much harder than 13/18.
@tacobender1643
@tacobender1643 2 жыл бұрын
How about difference in squares? For some reason I cant wrap my head around doubling the square root, i dont understand where that part comes from. But what about this method. I just thought of this but im positive someone else has invented it.I 87 is between 81 and 100 (9 and 10 squared). The differece is 19 and you have 6 remainder. 6/19 is around .315. I know its not as accurate but it makes more sense to me. Also 650. 625=25 676=26 676-625=51 650-625=25 remainder 25/51= .49ish So 650squard root is 25.49
@MathyMegaMan
@MathyMegaMan 2 жыл бұрын
@@tacobender1643 Yep, that is actually the basis behind what I mentioned. The 'doubling of the square root' comes from the fact that the difference between the squares will always be halfway between twice the lower square root, and twice the higher square root. So, in your first example, 2 x 9 = 18, and 2 x 10 = 20. The actual difference is 19, as you noted. So, if you add 1 to double the square root of the lower number, you get the difference between the squares.
@nuchsovattana4184
@nuchsovattana4184 8 ай бұрын
This is really helpful! Thanks dude
@normallymute0131
@normallymute0131 2 жыл бұрын
This was genuinely interesting. I wish you were my teacher, I’d listen with all ears because your teaching methods are actually enjoyable
@Montresor64
@Montresor64 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks!
@pixiepebbles7113
@pixiepebbles7113 Жыл бұрын
Amazing! Thank you!
@MitchBurns
@MitchBurns 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve never seen this before, but it’s actually pretty easy to see what that trick is really doing mathematically. All it’s doing is converting the continuous function root(x) and converting it to a piece wise function by connecting the points at perfect squares with strait lines. It works because the inverse function of x^2 has a derivative of 2x, so the slope of each new line is 2x. It’s a pretty neat trick.
@derdreibeiner1417
@derdreibeiner1417 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly...
@gameswoodmore5950
@gameswoodmore5950 2 жыл бұрын
This also means that if n is the root of the next smaller perfect square the error will never exceed 1/(2n) which is really neat.
@FlipflopB
@FlipflopB 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah dude I was totally thinking the same thing!
@jameyfrey7445
@jameyfrey7445 2 жыл бұрын
Can you explain why it doesn’t grab an exact number?
@gameswoodmore5950
@gameswoodmore5950 2 жыл бұрын
@@jameyfrey7445 What do you mean by "grab an exact number"?
@daffy8977
@daffy8977 3 жыл бұрын
I've noticed that the closer you are to a perfect square, the more accurate the answer gets. When I say closer I don't mean sqrt 2 is very accurate bc it's one away for sqrt 1, I mean fraction wise of the number, 2 to 1 is a big jump of 1/2, so it's not that accurate. But 27 to 25 is a much smaller fractional jump, which is why it's so close to exact.
@bobon123
@bobon123 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, you get good results when you are just above a perfect square, but very bad if you are just below. Sqrt(24) -> 4 + 8/8 =5. A better formula, that indeed works well whenever you are close to a perfect square from both sides, is N+R/(2N+1) instead of N+R/(2N). This works because the distance between two consecutive perfect squares N^2 and (N+1)^2 is 2N+1. Taking the residual over 2N+1 would be basically looking at a weighted interpolation between the following and previous perfect square. Graphically, what this would be doing is basically approximating the parabola X^2 with a series of segments connecting all perfect squares. So the result is close to perfect if the number is close to a perfect square, and far away if it is in the middle between two perfect squares.
@luxraider5384
@luxraider5384 2 жыл бұрын
yeah of course because x has to be way greater than dx (you ve already seen the formula above in the comments.
@guilhermeshiba3135
@guilhermeshiba3135 2 жыл бұрын
@@joebangles9951 KZbin doesn't allow links
@pentelegomenon1175
@pentelegomenon1175 2 жыл бұрын
I guess the "heavy lifting" of the trick is the first step, where you figure out the rounded-down square, and if you know the rounded-down and rounded-up square then you might as well just make a rough guess.
@talancorwell
@talancorwell 2 жыл бұрын
You can actually invert this method to go off of the next perfect square, by inverting your addition/subtraction operations. i.e. √95 -> 10=√100, 100-95=5, 10-(5/20)=9.75 √95=9.747 Using the normal method gives you 9+(14/18)=9.777, which is clearly less accurate. You'll find that the method that uses the smaller numerator (aka the one that uses the closer perfect square) will be the more accurate method.
@LucySteyn-gq5bd
@LucySteyn-gq5bd Жыл бұрын
your better than my math teacher LOL thank you again!! really helpful
@horationelson57
@horationelson57 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed your video and because methinks you are a fellow Aussie, I just had to subscribe, didn't I ! Cheers
@lynday2849
@lynday2849 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing !
@NickC_222
@NickC_222 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, this is so good. Square roots have always been difficult for me. I love math and I'm not bad at it at all. It's the class I did best in all through school. Every year I'd get high 90's in math while I tested very poorly in most other subjects. I never fully memorized my multiplication tables though because my brain just works differently, probably partly because I'm dyslexic with numbers, so that made everything else a little harder, especially square numbers. I never would've thought of a trick like this but once you explained how it worked it instantly made perfect sense. I feel like this trick just gave me a better sort of understanding of, or intuitive feel for, square numbers and their roots, like over all, as a concept.
@neworder4561
@neworder4561 Жыл бұрын
What about integration and calculas? You were good at that too?
@jacinths94
@jacinths94 3 жыл бұрын
I see why you have a million subs. How you teach is simple, clear, and direct. Thank you so much for your lessons!
@jbriscella
@jbriscella 2 жыл бұрын
It’s nice when teachers can be teachers and not forced into some regimented way of explaining things handed down by an out of touch and overly academic administration.
@411sponge72
@411sponge72 Жыл бұрын
Got to love differentials!!
@783c
@783c Жыл бұрын
man i love this channel
@lekhapratap1652
@lekhapratap1652 4 жыл бұрын
Me after a couple of math vids on KZbin: Cube that address Square that license plate Find food at whole foods with perfect square prices Evaluate the sale and maximise profit -Gotta love KZbin
@gavinward5448
@gavinward5448 4 жыл бұрын
Get out more! 😉
@maowy
@maowy 3 жыл бұрын
Next shall be Multiplying Taxes
@shalikachauhan9900
@shalikachauhan9900 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@johnjohn3025
@johnjohn3025 3 жыл бұрын
KZbin loves you too - it knows more about you than an experimenter knows about his lab rats
@God-gi9iu
@God-gi9iu 3 жыл бұрын
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@nunogue
@nunogue 8 жыл бұрын
I got curious and tested out this aproximation method in excel against excel's internal square root number. I calculated the percentual difference between the aproximation and the actual sqrt given by excel. i worked it out from 1 up to 1600 So it happens that the diference (as expected) resets to zero whenever you get to a perfect square (like 36 or 100...), and then increases as the number climb to the next perfect square. When you plot it the graph looks like the teeth of a saw. What's cool is the fact that as the numbers go up the teeth go wider and shallower, so the aproximation get's better and better. The absolute worst case is number 3 that as a square root 1.73205 and the aproximation yelds 2, thus giving a percentual difference of 13.397%. But, for instance, 1598 has a square root 39.97499 an the aproximation yelds 39.98718. That's 0.03048% difference. (at 1600 it resets the differences as it is the square of 40)
@tecmath
@tecmath 8 жыл бұрын
+Nuno Gonçalves Thanks for sharing your findings! BTW your descriptions bring so much more to this method. Thanks again.
@nunogue
@nunogue 8 жыл бұрын
+tecmath I should be the one doing the thanking for the brain candy, so... Thank you. ...Keep them coming. BTW, if you want, i can send you the excel file. Regards
@dananajj
@dananajj 8 жыл бұрын
Percentual is not a word. "Percent" difference.
@nunogue
@nunogue 8 жыл бұрын
+Danana J: Thanks. It's always good to know. Allow me to excuse myself, English is not my native language and i'm not using a spelling checker. Most words that exist in my native language have an English counterpart, so i tend to apply them. Sometimes, such as this one, that is not the case and the word doesn't exist in English (rare). Needless to say we have both "Percent" and "Percentual" (the later meaning that we are talking about something with percent-like caracteristics). Regards.
@dananajj
@dananajj 8 жыл бұрын
+Nuno Gonçalves Yes i undertood your use of "percentual". Btw this "amazing" trick done by tecmath is just a Taylor series approximation, which is most mathematicians use to do these "party" tricks.
@MinerGritz
@MinerGritz 2 жыл бұрын
You genius, this is a life saver. Thanks, man!
@indrajitdas8696
@indrajitdas8696 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this amazing trick 🙏
@user-fb4zo8wd5n
@user-fb4zo8wd5n 2 жыл бұрын
For those who finished calculus 2: this is the first order term of a Taylor expansion of the square root function. Nice explanation.
@johngreen3543
@johngreen3543 2 жыл бұрын
Or simply, the tangent line approximation
@rtrevellyan
@rtrevellyan 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. This is essentially how we did distance approximations in 16-bit video games back in the 90s.
@illdie314
@illdie314 8 жыл бұрын
THE BEAST HAS AWOKEN AFTER THE 11 MONTH SLUMBER TO GIFT UNTO US SQRT
@_jenaissante_
@_jenaissante_ 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah!Finally a video!!!!
@JorgetePanete
@JorgetePanete 6 жыл бұрын
illdiewithoutpi unto? dunno that word
@funrunpawnvg1827
@funrunpawnvg1827 6 жыл бұрын
LOL! TAU!
@shivangsaxena494
@shivangsaxena494 6 жыл бұрын
thats old english. search it on the net
@user-yn2bd7gs4j
@user-yn2bd7gs4j 6 жыл бұрын
TAU! vihart would like you lol
@arnonroyna4420
@arnonroyna4420 Жыл бұрын
Awesome way to approximate the value quickly!
@evoke2976
@evoke2976 6 ай бұрын
I never beliebed I was this smart thank you very good!
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