Why Every Team Needs a Front Line

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[@TheBryceholden]

And yes, this is also dating advice.

[@Fanican]

OH NO

[@youssefbencheikh8637]

GODNESS NO

[@nalonauts559]

I love this running joke lmfao

[@justinhaugan1124]

Im out of the loop, what is the context for the joke?

[@waldette1175]

“Gotta call in your frontline brother to make your move”

[@aauz]

I'm on a very low level comp team, and for a while, all we had were frontlines and midlines. no one played backline or anchor. we finally found someone, but they're in a very different timezone than us. I'm trying to re learn all the typical anchor weapons so that we don't have to rely on them solely, but I've been doing Frontline for so long, it's very difficult. I will say that TRI stringer has been the easiest to learn, since it's very mobile. anyway ty mino (said backline) for helping and being so patient 😋💕

[@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868]

I'm a tri stringer main and it makes sense that you'd be able to pick it up, it's definitely the most easy backline to play at midline and more aggro. However, if it's your only anchor, you really should try to play it more as a pure anchor, and not go in as close, because it's really what your team will need

[@evelynn1173]

How did you managed to get on a low level comp team. Im a e liter and want to find a team to start competing competively with.

[@aauz]

@@evelynn1173 there are a bunch of recruitment servers on discord! stuff like that is mainly on discord or Twitter. there are plenty of teams out there, and you could even start your own! if you don't have any experience, it might be a bit harder to get onto one (I tried out for two other teams before finding my current), but low level players are easy to find. you could also try playing in a couple pickup tournaments where you enter, and then get assigned a team. I started out with a discord server called the inkoplis crosswalk. basically just a server with a bunch links to other Splatoon servers, very helpful. hope this helps, good luck!

[@mouth2548]

@@evelynn1173 essentially, you will quickly meet new people, and you get matched up with people who have already been in comp for a while, and they are v broadly friendly and will help you acclimate to team coordination fast! after doing it for a while you start getting more connections and will have a better idea of who you may want to try and make a team with :)

[@TerrariaLuvr]

Wait there's low level comps??? I'm a Backliner main who's flexible with frontliners like wiper and .52 gal. I would love a low pressure competitive team to play with 😭

[@ink3487]

Instructions unclear, team comp is now 4 bloblobbers

[@dumpy8312]

My friends and I actually encountered that in the first Splatfest and while it was really funny it was also kinda difficult to push with all the rain and bubbles everywhere

[@TGCPhilip]

Easy, 2 aggro Blobs

[@shaba22]

​@@dumpy8312 if they were wearing bucket hats and slamgerine slipons it may have been me hahaha

[@dumpy8312]

@@shaba22 I don't recall all I remember is trying to fight through what was essentially a hurricane of paint lmao

[@SmartSmears]

I'm just playing randoms in series but using the Explo and Hydra Splatling more seriously had made me learn how rough switching from frontlines to mid and back weapons are because of how much I'm relying on the other people so much. I find myself as these weapons at the front of the team way more often than I'd like, partially because it's what I'm used to and I need to break out of that, and partially because the front liners are off in some weird position that's largely unhelpful

[@durdleduc8520]

the backline experience jumps dramatically the moment you start playing with people you know. not even through vc or something, i felt the jump in security just by gathering 2 people from a splatoon discord to play some splatfest matches together.

[@bigballedlegend5592]

@@durdleduc8520 now that you mention it, i definitely feel that way too. played in a team for the first time during the flavour splatfest and while i usually just play wiper in solo q turf wars, i actually stuck with backlining when i played with them soloq turf wars are just super uncoordinated most of the time and backlining feels awful when your team isnt playing to your strengths and weaknesses. in contrast, i definitely felt infinitely more useful when i played with friends (also them watching my back and saving me from flanks is super appreciated ❤️❤️❤️)

[@frankunodostres473]

I can confirm. yesterday I played against a team of 4 snipers. my team had 3 shooters and a bucket. I got sniped a couple of times early on but the opponents stayed at a distance to control their space from their elevated spots and weren't really able to push well. I was on quick respawn and in the last minute or so we just constantly overpowered and outnumbered them. it was annoying but in the end it was a fairly easy win

[@GamesAndAnimes]

Splatfest open, 4 Elite? Then I could had the same team against me, as I tried the Scope Elite. They had at the end no chance. 😄

[@SuspiciousTemmie]

Seeing this video really made me realize how much more visible the Ninja Squid trail is on Dark Chocolate compared to the other two teams, I can't sneak up on anyone with my Inkbrush or Carbon Deco and I hate it ;-;

[@shaba22]

And meanwhile, white chocolate is a blinding flash bang grenade with no shadows/contrast

[@Roze_aye]

Isnt it a great feeling to be part of a community and understand enough lingo that someone can say *"When a Splash pops Crab it turns into an ExploHydraBaller..."* And know exactly what their talking about, when in most cases any other person outside just hears a bunch of made up gibberish?

[@CrisisT47]

Why play a front liner when you can play big swig

[@GreatFernicus]

Every time I watch one of your videos, I think “oh my god yes this was something that I deep down subconsciously knew but could never put it into words” and you never fail to explain it all perfectly

[@Stephen-Fox]

Not sure if watching this video's footage of this weekend's splatfest - particularly milk vs white which just looks delicious to my eyes (really well chosen shades of brown and white there) - is making me hungry or the fact I currently have a meal in the oven.

[@SideOrder755]

I'm trying to learn the dapple dualies noveau and I find it really hard to get close to snipers and bloblobbers, Any ideas on I could try to get close enough to kill? I feel as if I don't dodge roll fast enough.

[@FieryBunny1546YT]

What I would recommend to do is to practice on using torpedo by trying to throw it behind the opponent

[@4Monadonis2]

If you're approaching from limited cover, chuck torpedoes at them when you see them ready to fire, then paint-n-swim and off to the side of the torpedo while approaching them, and dodge roll once to break the last bit of distance you need to approach. dodge roll again if you need to dodge an attack, or to gain more ground if you see them retreating from the first dodge roll early on. Or if you have a teammate approaching with you, act as an extra distraction and dodge attacks by swimming and rolling while the teammate gets the job done. If you have an available flank route, you might throw a torpedo from a frontline position first to reveal your position. (This may not always be something you want to do.) Then, use your lightweight speed to take the flank to try and approach safely for a close-up fight. Revealing your initial position before taking the flank can trick them into thinking you're still apporaching head-on. If you do it too often, they might predict what you're doing and preemptively pivot to a different position, so try mixing it up by not throwing the torpedo all the time to keep your position hidden entirely.

[@youssefbencheikh8637]

^^^ All of what the other people said above + don't forget to squid roll AND dodge roll. Try to combine those two as squid roll gives you armor. A better way to understand this would be to watch professional dualies players and try to learn from them.

[@SquidSchool]

If you're going to try and approach a longer-ranged weapon, especially one like a charger with a one-shot, it'll get to a point where you either aren't seen until you're in range or it's just not safe to push. You can't expect a charger to miss after a certain level of skill; you may get lucky sometimes, but their aim gets too good for that. If you can sneak up on them in under ~10 seconds it might be worth going for, but if it would take any longer than that before you're having an impact on the match again, just play around cover on a different part of the map so the charger just can't see you.

[@Mehtaru]

Kinda just stating the obvious

[@arttukettunen5757]

Snipers are a problem child of any shooter game, 1-shot from any range. Very high skill ceiling which can make the sniper almost invincible. At least chargers don't have full map range and there's some 3D terrain, but Eliters are still the problem child of splatoon.

[@Arcavi0us]

Nah, counterplay exists especially in Splatoon. Eliter isn't the problem child of this game. It's map design. Eliter was good in both 1 and 2 consistently but not a dominant force because map design keeps them balanced. Cover and flank routes in s3 are a bit of a luxury but a long range weapon is still a weapon with weakness and if that isn't covered by your teamates it can and will be punished

[@blanketray6050]

ok but what about 4 e-liter 4k scopes, would that work

[@adamp.8571]

I’m glad this topic was discussed. Within the community I also see frontline players complain about e liters being OP and there aren’t enough flanks. While e liter is the best anchor in the game, it’s still an anchor and it’s very comp dependent. In most cases, all players have to do is move an e liter out it’s spot to effect it. Once it’s line of sight is gone, that’s when it’s time to push the objective. It’s basically 3v4 at that moment.

[@nicegamermusics6331]

I really feel like my team was inspiration for this vid

[@SquidSchool]

Whenever there's a video like this, there may be a most recent example, but it's been a conversation that's happened at least 5 other times

[@Follyf_Spl]

Thanks for the video! Your content is always so helpful

[@DamTay_13]

First 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@SomeGuyWithAFace9]

yknow whatd be cool? seeing a high level match with quad charger vs a normal team comp to demonstrate in practice why it doesnt work

[@SquidSchool]

That's kind of what Silly Comp Sunday was designed to do, to show why silly comps don't work

[@MxTheLight]

On the off shot you see this comment: When you say a team should have 2 frontline weapons, is there in general or specifically frontline slayers/skirmisher? Asking because I usually play support for my team

[@SquidSchool]

Support is a different role. I address this in the video; if your playstyle isn't to be playing aggressively to start fights and push the enemy team back, you're not going to help push the zone of control forward. If you try and push the zone of control forward aggressively with something like a junior, you're probably going to lose the matchup against a .52 gal or tetras or splash and fail to accomplish your goal.

[@MxTheLight]

@@SquidSchool Yeah I remember you saying that earlier on. Thank you for responding

[@Tron1110]

Gem has been on a roll with his amazing informative content. Only thing I wish you'd do more was more videos focused on a players mindset like dealing with tilt or how players could have a more humble mindset about the game. Would make for a interesting video idea

[@SquidSchool]

I do have a number of videos on that. On top of the videos that have it in the title, check out the first few minutes of the C rank and S+ videos

[@Tron1110]

Kinda would want more content focused on that due to me struggling with tilt alot. Although I primarily play turf wars most of the time tilt still happens to me and it even ended up with one time where I broke my switch comfort grip due to me tilting. Kinda weird how sometimes you don't tilt and other times in the span of one game you go from good to borderline putz12. Wonder why does that happen?

[@MidX4]

Devvy doesn’t Devvy runs 4 hydra

[@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868]

Devvy plays a slayer hydra, not backline hydra

[@Doceli-dg3cn]

It a good idea in mind to always take different routes/ positions becuz I struggle in solo a bit becuz ppl go in the same area often

[@Kubopvp]

2:32 feels like chess

[@KaboomT_12]

This one time on Splatoon 2 Sturgeon Shipyard, I, a Custom Splattershot Jr., was paired off with 3 other chargers. At first, I pushed with the Chargers. And then soon enough, the 3 Chargers were just pretty much spawncamping the other team. Which then I would jump back and ink my base. And when I got my Inkstorm, I just superjumped to a charger to unleash it. And when a charger died, I would just jump to the front to cover for them until they respawned again. Basically, the other team wasn't having a fun time.

[@johndelanie3649]

I lost my last rank up game because the game matchmade me, a tri-stringer, with an E-Liter, an explosher, and a carbon roller. All three games in a row.

[@Yugilein]

Tip for next time: Go out of the matchmaking and start a new game search. (Because There is a button that asks you if you want to stay with that team.)

[@greenguy9090]

I'm waiting for the day an entire team of 4 people who dedicate 100% of their play time maining charger to just completely prove everyone wrong.

[@drmed3506]

What about midliners, like forge, squeeze or sloshers. Can they be counted as weapons witch can take up space ?

[@shaba22]

I think squeezer for sure, but I'd pick a ninja flingza flex build over the others as it can easily toggle between anchor, support, and sharking slayer depending on map and enemy team comp

[@shaba22]

And I'd put thermal ink nautilus in a somewhat similar boat

[@blunderbus2695]

I'd assume that midlines are sort of a middle ground. They don't excel at pushing forwards and gaining space like a frontline, they don't excel at locking down an area and holding space like a backline, but they can do appreciably well at either job, so you get a more flexible team comp if you have one of them.

[@a-ramenartist9734]

the second crab impact what is this, neon genesis inkvangelion

[@SmugLookingBarrel]

I'm pretty sure that if we actually did have maps that were entirely flat ground with no cover, what we'd actually see is even more special spam, if there was no way to use the map to advance safely, the only option then becomes using a special like Crab, or Missiles, or chaining Big Bubblers

[@davidron7850]

Thats cool and all BUT DA BOI IS ON MY TEAM YEEEEES

[@Randallroks]

I still remember when E-liters in 1 could kill in half charge. I like playing the goo tuber for that reason. Personally it feels like a 'legacy weapon' since its got the same attempted nerfs the splat 1 chargers had at the time. Just excessively nerfed. It's bad. But fun.

[@cyrfung]

Matchmaking think it’s totally fine to have 3 back liners on the same team 🐒

[@danielvandeputte7588]

I like how so many of the splat 3 maps are so meat grindery and and choke pointed that we need to ask, "Why not just run four e-liters?". Joking a side the maps really are the culprit, when you can cover nearly all of the action with no risk of flank routes the game turns from multiplayer shooter game to shooting gallery.

[@fairfaefates]

Actually got a game that demonstrated this exact principle right after watching this video 😮‍💨 2 chargers, one brush, one custom jr vs 2 tteks and 2 splattershots (you can probably guess what happened)

[@Stiiizz]

What would anyone think if the dual squeltcher or original e liter 3k return

[@doleofficedolan1607]

Lol, this was such a horrible game last night on my part. GGs, I was the squeezer

[@inferno41]

Sloshing machine main aggression

[@Illya9999]

I think on some map modes frontliners can be optional (mincemeat clams)

[@ddudegaming7804]

What's going on with the intro in this one

[@NES-Rovys]

While this may be true on rain, tower, and clams since you have to move forward on them, but what about splat zones?

[@SquidSchool]

You have to move forward on Splat Zones. If you don't, the enemy team gets to walk back to mid after a fight and immediately start painting the zone again. If you're in their spawn, they have to fight you first, so either you win and then you're still in their spawn, or you lose but instead of losing after they've already neutralized the zone because you let them get that far for free, now they have to spend another 5 seconds getting to the zone, and you're scoring and respawning that whole time.

[@cultmecca]

My cousins got splatoon 3 and I am trying to teach them to play because we want to play a tournament. I’m an e-liter main. From day 1 I have made them learn frontline weapons. 2 backliners is one backliners too many. It gets real crowded in the back real quick. I hate, I hate, I hate I hate I hate other backliners on my team. I want to be the only one no cap

[@krocodile55]

I think I got a plan for tri-color now.

[@lucasran4254]

How do I push forward if I play carbon deco and have little map control?

[@SquidSchool]

Shark/flank/pray your teammates paint something for you to work with

[@youssefbencheikh8637]

I thought you were better than picking team milk chocolate 🙄🙄🙄

[@DPRK_Best_Korea]

Eww, milk chocolate.