SS14 - Introduction to Salvage

[@keyabrade1861]

Traitor salvage technician is disgustingly OP: it lets you legally have lethal ballistic weapons, a jetpack, insulated gloves, welding goggles, a full set of tools, externals access, and a hardsuit. You can murder your colleagues on a planet, or use it as a foolproof body/evidence dumping ground, or both.

[@mozarteanchaos]

just be careful to take care of your colleagues _before_ doing traitor stuff, else they'll say "oh, yeah, Urist McHands was probably the guy who bombed the cargo shuttle and stole the controls, they're not with us on the ship at the moment" and the next time you're seen on the station you'll be shot (true story, i was a cargo tech that round and the only reason we knew who did it was because the salvage crew told us who was missing at the time of the crime)

[@teecee1827]

But you shouldn't murder your colleagues. A lot of salvies go by the salvage code, a syndie salvie is just a salvie with better gear and a trump card for the team.

[@keyabrade1861]

@@teecee1827 ...who occasionally disappears to "go work on something" or "troubleshoot", but yes.

[@BattleToast32]

Some more quick tips: - Dangerous atmos will insta 1-3k toxin damage you if you take internals off, ensure tank is full - Other things like the expedition console and an o2 canister are good things to keep on ship with you - When mining, your pka is you slowest choice, use a pickaxe or even a crusher, they are faster - When magneting ship fragments, there arent usually strong enemies, just lots of them - Learn how to kite your fish, and xenos threat level is dictated by speed and size -Watch crossfire, I've seen so many die to an unintended shot that crits em -Before leaving station, get someone to go ask medical for a medkit and ask engi for goggles -Finally, remember miner's code! We are brothers, strong together! -ROCK AND STONE!

[@frog_man_ree]

Insuls, don't forget insuls

[@mozarteanchaos]

@@frog_man_ree seconding this, insuls are surprisingly useful for salvagers. i once got killed on a wreckage because of an electrified grille - other salv accidentally bumped me into it with a crate, it stunned me long enough for the resident carp to maul me - so if i had insuls, i would've survived and maybe even had a carp corpse to bring to chemistry. i mean, i would've also survived if i stayed out of the way of the other salv, they'd been more careful with where they were dragging the crate, or we'd just killed the carp before trying to leave, but the most effective way to prevent the problem is to remove the cause - why avoid the grille if you could instead be immune to the grille?

[@lechking941]

indeed slavage/mining are always brothers in arms and fuckery. like cargo we are our own kind. (and thinkfully cargo will happly spend some creds so you can get a gyro for any stupid plans like making ya own shuttle, and yes i fully help make a partial shuttle and basicly salvage was living the dream on their own raft in the void) oh and always steam the bloody bar when it shoes up. theres full stock of booze and even a shotgun

[@lechking941]

@@frog_man_reethinkfully most stations have you right next to eng. so they can throw you a few pairs on top of the goggles

[@BattleToast32]

All of these are good points, the only reason I didn’t include them was because some engis get iffy about your team having gloves, plus you can usually find a few pairs on your first exped, at least that’s been the way for me.

[@monsieurgmr3439]

Also to all salvagers out there, please go mining first before you go out on an exped, cargo can save so much money by not needing to buy materials the entire shift.

[@asianfoo8907]

MYbe make more money we can do what we want

[@drakonlegend4452]

@@asianfoo8907bruh

[@MithrilRoshi]

Totally. In exchange for a decent gun to go on the exped :D

[@keyabrade1861]

​@@asianfoo8907Cargo does not start with much money and it takes them a while to build up. A single asteroid pulled in and mined to tide Cargo over until they can order more is not too much of an ask. Also, you can't order bananium, the crates ordered plasma sheets come in are locked, meaning Cargo cannot distribute them easily, and the artifact fragments help Sci get a jump-start without having to spawn potentially-destructive anomalies.

[@teetree6661]

Mining > Expeditions. Expeditions don't help the crew near as much as just mining does. Most the time Salvs just do the missions that give em cool guns they hoard, not helping the crew whatsoever.

[@healerlfg7769]

Note: A salvage helmet will protect you from welding flash, so don't be afraid to torch your way into a building on an expedition.

[@veziusthethird]

Salvage is just "science will thank you for this"

[@lechking941]

also engineering will too. oh and if your into crazy as salve you can make your own in house bar

[@whips2783]

4k Tyrone profile pic

[@erhardsteinhauer3242]

Some tips: - If you feel like you aren't going to make it in time to shuttle from the planet, you can fulton yourself straight to the station (provided you've set up a beacon and linked your set of fultons to it): get in a locker/chest and use fulton on it while you're inside (or fulton first, then get inside). - You can stuff crates and lockers with quite a lot of stuff. Use it to maximize your fulton potential. - A basic steel crate needs 5 steel to be built. It takes about 8 sec to construct one. No tools are needed. - Instead of dragging machinery (autolathes, fabs, cloning pods, SMESs, substations, and such) you can quickly disassemble it and grab just machine circuit boards (screwdriver + crowbar + crowbar). Remember that you can disassemble multiple machines at the same time if you stand close enough to them. Taking out circuit boards from computers takes a bit more effort: screwdriver + crowbar + wirecutter + screwdriver + crowbar. Also, I don't think that machines on planets can spawn with advanced components, so don't bother grabbing anything other than the circuit board unless you feel like grabbing them ofc. - Knowing how to disassemble regular walls is helpful (reinforced ones take ages to deconstruct): most likely it'll take less time than looking for a proper entrance or a window. - Consider getting yourself a Crusher Dagger: it's useless as a weapon, but it has an infinite omnidirectional flashlight with decent range and it can be stored in your pocket slot. - Communicate with the rest of the cargo. Help them and they'll help you: certain goods that you shouldn't have according to Sec (guns 'n' lasers) can be very helpful in expeditions. Advanced medkits are nice to have too. - Do grab a GPS before setting out to mine an asteroid or loot wreckage: can save your life if an asteroid or spacewreck disappears from under your feet. Less useful planetside. - Don't assume that North is up. Num8 if in doubt. - Don't ram the station: makes it harder for you to "dock" and unload your shuttle until you build proper shuttle airlocks for your flying bucket. - If there isn't enough space for both cargo and salvage shuttles you can modify either your shuttle or the station. Use rods to build lattice. Even a single full stack is enough to make a decent landing zone for your shuttle.

[@SurgutPictures]

Life - hack for everyone (who didn't knew ofc): You can use random mask (such as clown, mime or even bear one), and with that mask you can breath and eat at the same time! I mean, you can turn on oxygen tank with random mask and you'll have possibility to eat, take pills and etc. Wish you luck!

[@Riya-ho5zv]

About evacing planets, while I didn't play salv for a while now as QM I had salvagers return crying about how they left someone behind. Now they could've meant they died too far away to have their body be carried back in time, but they made it sound like they did just click the button and left the guy stranded. Might test this when I have the time

[@monsieurgmr3439]

Oh the ship automatically ftl out of the planet when time runs out, so usually when someone got left behind its probably cus they got lost, died, or was just too slow at evacing

[@ImpuscaVana]

Fulton and being able to decide to retrains from overcommitting for loot reduce that alot. But most people doesn't use fulton to their fullest ability, or just get lost for some weird reason.

[@tropicalowl8847]

For those inclined for a challenge, I'd like to recommend the crusher/glaive, it has lifesteal capacities, it's quite neat! And it mines faster than the KA too!

[@erhardsteinhauer3242]

Where one can get crusher glaive tho?

[@tropicalowl8847]

Salvage vendor or science.

[@dragonwolf569]

Ramming the station results in the station moving or it beginning to rotate which could be a hassle for salvagers to deal with when they have no proper ship dock to latch onto. (You can use the spacebar as a brake when piloting to slow your momentum as to not move the station or send it into a spin when docking) Keep up the good tutorials liltenhead

[@Liltenhead]

Yeah I wouldn't recommend ramming it, but everyone does it anyways lol

[@ButcherTTV]

All this time and I didn't know about space bar

[@charredorphan779]

just build 1 proper airlock costs a few silver ingots and reinforced iron

[@keyabrade1861]

@DamnFedsIt is. Also, ramming sometimes causes a singuloose.

[@godgaveyouhands2848]

Fun fact: if you are on an expedition, 0,0 is where the shuttle is so of you get lost just follow the GPS

[@Frank-im2ku]

That's actually very helpful,thanks!

[@everythingeverything6505]

YOU MISPELLED SALVAGE AS 'SALAVGE' IN THE THUMBNAIL!!!! UNFORGIVABLE!!!! ONE MIIIIIIIIIILLION YEARS DUNGEON!

[@Frank-im2ku]

Im from the future, it seem they fixed it.

[@renaredalaster1375]

Dont brush off derelicts, those little blue scrap heaps may look innocuous, but they are decent sources of material stacks, soulless bodies for gibbing, medical supplies, random crates, and "interesting" rare loot pools, (and im not talking about the pair of instant valids, as funny as they are), at the very least, while waiting on two different cooldowns, they are a great tuck and roll Also, i find fultons are amazing at not only looting, but extracting, you can very easily get yourself out of an exped by climbing into a container marked for pickup

[@ibagiousvii4458]

You say GPS is the least useful, but one time Me and my salv buddy got abandon on an astroid by the 3rd salv who was a traitor. Once we got the station's coords, we used our GPS and PKA/crusher to propel ourself back to station. We nearly got hit by a bunch of meteors too lol.

[@Oliver_The_Otter]

The GPS is actually one of the most useful tools in case of an emergency. When I’m QM I scold my salv team for not having it if they don’t due to the fact that it is very easy to get stranded in space with no way back to the station. Makes it easier to find then

[@BasedBellagio]

Lotta nice quality features. I like the wide mining swing

[@beridot2615]

Wow! I didn't know salvage was reworked! IF ONLY IT WASNT FULL ALL THE TIME.

[@Gamesby48]

It's funny that the premade dungeons are lower, cause I remember a game where salv did over 20 magnet pulls, getting only the asteroids twice. Didn't help that the RD really wanted gold and silver

[@stardust-reverie]

nice avatar >:D

[@TheLovelyxxxx]

DO NOT RAM THE STATION It can loose the singularity.

[@Liltenhead]

The singulo is hungry though.

[@frog_man_ree]

I have truly become greytider

[@Human3524]

I always build vents on the shuttle so i dont have to wear a mask the whole time or waste any oxygen

[@Jovian-gc8qs]

Me and two other salvagers once built a gigantic array of matter dematerializer's, we had so many asteroids were reduced to nothing in seconds

[@nonagon9192]

I don't even need to watch this and yet i choose too lol

[@charredorphan779]

A little correction right from the beginning. Pulling asteroids and wreckages is what salvage team should do 95% of time if their goal is to assist the station. the reason is simple there is absolutely nothing of value to the station on the planetary expeditions and the only stuff that is valuable (like ore for example) is useless to mine on them since there is more of it on wreckage and asteroids. the ONLY reason to go expos is cloning on maps where medical don't have it from the beginning. not only wreckages and meteors OBJECTIVELY yield more useful loot they also less dangerous. considering that people still somehow die on more than easy new expeditions. you can go expos but know that you are doing so not cus there is ANYTHING of value but just cus you want PVE. artefacts? 2 asteroids might yield enough shards to make 8 of them. (and you can easily find them on the wreckage as well) bluespace parts? ALso exist on wreckages AND if you are doing meteors you will have so much recourses r&d workers will start blaming you cus they can't keep up with how much youy bring while engies literally finishing building a copy of deathsquad ship just for the lols and given enough time will make another one. And again i said 95% of the time. once you bring all that is NECECERRY to the station through magnet salvaging you can go expo to get some lowquality specific funny loot that might do something once every 10 rounds. borgs will be glad to recieve a gold baterry extra genarators cus r&d never makes any even if they research them some other funny stuff. p.s. making a proper airlock to dock and floor fans to actually have some atmosphere shouldn't be costly at all if you do not waste time on expos.

[@ImpuscaVana]

You do debries and asteroids for THE Station as a whole. Right now, expeds is mostly for YOU (Yes! You! The Salvagers.) to get chemical dispenser, ammo techfabs, and some other non-important items. It'll probably be way more balanced and a actually worthwhile investment once they finish whatever they are planning to do with the expedition reworks.

[@Katomou]

what happens when your on an expedition planet and it times out?

[@Liltenhead]

You literally disappear.

[@Katomou]

7 minute instakill timer so cool

[@zankthegreat4291]

That happened to me on my first salv shift. I got downed fighting a big magma lizard, then lost my sense of direction when I revived and walked the wrong way searching for the shuttle.

[@GreyMaria]

As someone who literally does not play this game--what happens when the expedition timer runs out?

[@Liltenhead]

you disappear

[@GreyMaria]

@@Liltenhead 👻

[@sean7221]

What happens if you overstay the time limit on the planet?

[@Liltenhead]

You disappear

[@ImpuscaVana]

You become one with the planet. The natural end for a salvagers.

[@DestinHill-k1p]

Just a thought - if you make an ore redemption machine on the ship, would it link to the one in cargo? Or is there a way to do that? That would save a lot of damn time...

[@demigodzero9]

Can you make a video to provide details on how to get ss14 and reliable starting resources for the game? Wiki addresses, or official communications platforms.

[@keyabrade1861]

read the SS13 wiki, it carries over SS14 is on steam

[@demigodzero9]

@@keyabrade1861 it is not available for download on steam at this time, reason I was asking.

[@notloopers1110]

Hmmm, the role i literally never get despite putting it on high every round

[@cakelegion3359]

What happens when the expedition timer runs out?

[@Liltenhead]

You disappear

[@limemeiseer2969]

can you please make a video on how to be Sosa?

[@Pasakoye]

The salvage magnet should be attached to the bridge so they actually have to steer the station.

[@SilentXing-Li]

Haha pickaxe go BRRR

[@geod3885]

the song at 2 minites remainisv… hmmm

[@lechking941]

HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[@cerzix]

If anyone is using a QWERTZ Keyboard, wielding is Y, just fyi.

[@MithrilRoshi]

Damn i wanna be a salvager

[@lechking941]

just do like 2 rounds of engi or a long single engi shift to get it

[@acilimistik]

nuoooo pfp change

[@crackedemerald4930]

seems like this is either very outdated or a very weird branch. Because at least on my branch, (idk what it is exactly) bags on belts do pickup stuff automatically.

[@ultras0nicgaming650]

He said in the video that bags do pickup automatically... Just not artifacts lol

[@guralpgursoy8408]

you changed your profile picture ?

[@Rorymerkury]

Whyyyyy

[@Liltenhead]

Yes, it's just Tyrone but not pixels.

[@ShadaOfAllThings]

does 14 have a pen slot in the PDA? That's how you hide shit like power daggers in 13, I imagine you could do similar with the cybersun if there is one Also a big thing about fultoning chests: You can stack a shitload of stuff in a chest to bring fuckloads back at once. Don't just send back a couple things in a chest that could be sending back a full load

[@rougenarwhal8378]

Wtf is your new profile picture

[@Liltenhead]

My character

[@rougenarwhal8378]

@@Liltenhead I miss your lucario PFP but your last one was really cute

[@c26f]

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