This guy four stocked me in a falcon ditto at apex on fountain of dreams. Now I know why. Great vid.
@superiorautism9 жыл бұрын
If you got 4-stocked, it probably wasn't because of shield-dropping.
@zam6269 жыл бұрын
Batman well, i am also bad.
@chis50508 жыл бұрын
+zam626 the truth finally comes out
@franklinestrella57246 жыл бұрын
zam626 is that THE 226
@kiirbstomp6 жыл бұрын
it's because he had a captain falcon controller
@carlcarmoni8 жыл бұрын
Very well spoken and genuine commentary and explanations, really great man!
@Tripleyou9 жыл бұрын
There is yet another method that kind of builds on top of this, which is tilting your shield during shield stun, which imo is the superior method. Then you can angle your shield optimally for defense while on a platform, tilt all the way to a side during shield stun and drop through asap when you're out of shield stun.
@darklord26262 жыл бұрын
ive been doing dash drops for like a year now and i knew there had to be a better way. this has helped me so much thank you
@tristanswim Жыл бұрын
This helped a lot to understand how shield drops work. An instant improvement for me. Thanks!!
@benschleck67699 жыл бұрын
Every video advertises it makes it fast and easy but this video definitely delivered.
@leomeror8 жыл бұрын
wow this video is awesome! I'm new in the smash community and got so confused with all the possible ways to shielddrop and how it actually works, so i was so glad this video covered ALL the options and well explained too! :) GJ
@moraigna6610 жыл бұрын
My favorite "set up" is not described in this video. I just position my Control stick during the shieldstun of the attack of protecting against.. Of course, the attack needs a minimum of stun, but not too much. Also, if you "accidentally" power shield, then you might roll =/
@whoiskorbo4 жыл бұрын
I was able to get consistent shield drops in 5 minutes or less. Thank you for making this!!!
@TheReflexWonderful10 жыл бұрын
I think your method of Shield+max Control Stick direction is actually still doing it preemptively; I think you're pressing the commands on the normal landing lag of 2-4 frames. Starting it from the ground should get a roll if you press them at the same time, iirc. Either way, this is a great resource; thanks for taking the time to put this up!
@SSBUniversity10 жыл бұрын
Oooh I never thought of that or looked into any frame data of this. That totally makes sense!
@TahirHanif9 ай бұрын
Did not expect to find this getting back into melee. Right on bro!
@PrinceShion8 жыл бұрын
Thank you thank you thank you!!!!! This video was so helpful!!!
@eddiestilll3 жыл бұрын
literally learned how to shield drop in less than 10 min thanks to u :D u rock man!
@danielvutran10 жыл бұрын
helpful! basically just setups for Axe's method, except more in depth LOL. Pretty sure axe does it this way too but just never got too far in depth about it xD
@shadoninja9 жыл бұрын
I'm getting better at shield dropping, but I do want to let it be heard that this isn't quite as consistent for me as you suggest. It works well, but the speed of the motion is still super important.
@dacoolhuan5 жыл бұрын
You talk like a professor, you should teach a subject, great vid
@Victra4 жыл бұрын
Wow thank you! I'm only seeing this comment now. A lot of changed, but this year I did get hired as an Instructor for a local University coincidentally enough. Thank you for this comment!
@zillavanilla63535 жыл бұрын
This is literally the best video ever
@bboyHarrypotter7 жыл бұрын
A trick I use to hit the raw angle/speed is imagine my control stick itself is doing the shield drop. If you move the control stick down at the same speed as the animated character does the shield drop, it'll work. kinda weird but yeah
@StealthyPanda1229 жыл бұрын
This is also good because if you decide not to shield after you aerial, it sets up for an isai/shai drop nicely since you're already holding toward the side
@cheesescientist81803 жыл бұрын
THATS IT?!??!?!? THATS HOW EASY IT IS!?!?!??! IVE BEEN TRYING FOR A YEAR TO GET IT CONSISTANT AND WITH THIS METHOD ITS SO EASY WHAT THE HELL thank you
@SSBMARBLES8 жыл бұрын
What a legendary video thanks SSBU
@superdude44649 жыл бұрын
Great video! Quick question: I noticed you were light-shielding most of the time. Does light-shielding make shield dropping easier, or is it better to use your full shield? I'm aware that after rolling, holding Z brings up a light shield, though I'm not sure if there's any particular difference with regards to shield dropping with light or full shield.
@TheSuperCommentGuy9 жыл бұрын
+john paul foronda Sorry, late reply, but he is light shielding because if he did a normal shield before landing he would airdodge before he touched the ground. The light shield is a good way to preemptively shield while not messing up your landing.
@kevinyoutube836510 жыл бұрын
For axe's method, when you shield->tilt control stick all the way left/right, don't you just shield roll?
@Humbrg3rH3lpr10 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure it has to do with the speed you tilt the stick left/right. Kind of like after doing an up-tilt you can have the control stick all the way up without jumping. I would focus on learning the last method he mentioned- tilt stick all the way left/right at the same time or a split-second before shielding. Then input the slight down angle to shield drop.
@kevinyoutube83659 жыл бұрын
At 1:19 he says: "shield, angle all the way left or all the way right, and go down 1 notch on the control stick". That's different than the technique described later in the video where he preemptively tilts the controlstick left/right before shielding. So... I still have the same question. Is there a way to tilt your controlstick all the way left/right when your shield is already up and not shield roll?
@kevinyoutube83659 жыл бұрын
***** He mentions this (axe's) technique again at 2:12 where he tilts the controlstick after he shields
@Humbrg3rH3lpr9 жыл бұрын
***** Ya it's possible, you do it more precisely like your doing a tilt move. I'm bad at explaining things but its sort of like after an up-tilt you can have the control stick all the way up without jumping. If you can shield DI then all your doing is moving your shield all the way to one side then and inputting the notch down.
@kevinyoutube83659 жыл бұрын
ahh that makes a lot more sense now. thank you!
@Athos907 жыл бұрын
Extremely helpful video, really helped me out, thanks.
@Njzfinest10 жыл бұрын
You can also tilt during the waveland animation
@Uhcip10 жыл бұрын
the only problem with full tilt shield drop is that it can leave a hole on one side where you can get shield poked. particularly noticable when your shield isnt full or if your character has a poor shield?
@krazyzyko10 жыл бұрын
You could light shield with Z though.
@Uhcip10 жыл бұрын
Axel Morales and get shield broken by marths B in one hit, or get pushed way off the platform instead of shield dropping? havent seen any of the pros use that
@krazyzyko9 жыл бұрын
Marth doesn't break the light shield on one hit. Leffen uses light shield sometimes. It's another option to be wary of. If you get knocked off the platform you can tech or simply land depending on the character.
@Uhcip9 жыл бұрын
i use light shield but it seems counter productive when you want to shield drop I guess
@krazyzyko9 жыл бұрын
Yes, I just use it when l don't want to risk getting hit.
@SilverShadow029 жыл бұрын
So i can perform any action and set-up my sheild drop, OR i can hold my shield and let my opponent hit it (like Gravy does), and getting hit is the setup i need to shield drop...hmm very interesting yes, quite.
@_hio_03 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial, thanks
@skullo55576 жыл бұрын
Oh wow thanks dude I’ve been looking for a video like this for a whil
@naguleader10 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video, thank you very much!
@patrickquigley96649 жыл бұрын
I can do this on the left side almost every time, but when I do it on the right side, I just spot-dodge. Any help?
@KalebSDay8 жыл бұрын
Irwin Longwood I have the same problem, but the other way around :/
@lennyblanko4 жыл бұрын
dashing cancels the buffer roll when you move the stick to the left or right?
@jojowastaken6 жыл бұрын
best shield drop video on youtube :D
@quinn15399 жыл бұрын
Cool controller. Where did you get it painted?
@comfortea9 жыл бұрын
I'm really feeling it!
@gabrieljreed9 жыл бұрын
What are the inputs after you tilt your shield to the side? I assume you push down with the control stick. Do you keep holding your shield down?
@ThisIsWEB9 жыл бұрын
+Gabriel Reed Yes, hold your shield until the drop occurs. When you're tilted to the side, roll the control stick downward drop.
@shinesp49629 жыл бұрын
When doing the Tilt Left/Right and then go down to the 45 degree notch sometimes I still spotdodge. Does this mean I just pushed the control stick slightly too far down? Also would you say its best to like hug the rim of the notches as you roll it down?
@TheBiomedZed7 жыл бұрын
One word: A R D U I N O
@LuigiMan3119 жыл бұрын
What are some situations that would require shield dropping? I'm a fairly new player so forgive me if this is an obvious question, I'm just having trouble understanding when this is appropriate to use.
@Cheis_10 жыл бұрын
With your method of tilting your shield, does that open you up to be more likely to be shield poked? Or does light shielding solve that?
@sinistar31988 жыл бұрын
Wait, there's a raw angle? I can probably grind that out. . .
@jackc29818 жыл бұрын
Sini Star it depends a lot on controller
@DrDepperFanMan7 жыл бұрын
Don't. The raw angle is an incredibly precise spot on the controller that is incredibly difficult to even grind it out. But if you really want it, it is the vertical height of the second notch but in the middle of the controller and you have to move the joy stick so far or it won't pick it up.
@EMan-hr5vf6 жыл бұрын
The trick I find best for the raw angle is to be smooth with your input as jerking it is more risky
@Darktega9 жыл бұрын
But in the "buffer" method you sacrifice the hability to angle your shield down am I right?
@rumfordc8 жыл бұрын
just make sure you buffer to the side u want to defend from
@LengthyUsername8 жыл бұрын
you can simply let go of your buffer to re-center and then position your shield as you like, although this does take time.
@daisuke4bleach9 жыл бұрын
this has helped me soooo much, however, i have noticed that when i do it to the right it is more difficult and i feel as though i'm doing the same process. Is it any more difficult that way or? I do it consistently to the left everytime but the other way i get spot dodge more unless i do the movement slowly rather than fast like i can do to the left.
@RenzQui5 жыл бұрын
How did Shield Dropping, become so popular?
@0wn3dforlife10 жыл бұрын
So how should i go about this, if i have to block an attack coming from below the platform that may poke through my shield? How can i tilt the shield down to block, then shield drop off that?
@ssbmvictra261410 жыл бұрын
You are still able to tilt your shield downwards (or anywhere else) to avoid the poke. When you get hit, you are able to input your stick back to the far left/right position during the shield stun so that the input isn't registered but you have your control stick positioned appropriately, and then you shield drop from there.
@0wn3dforlife10 жыл бұрын
Ohhh, thanks!
@raydellwilliams85809 жыл бұрын
Super Smash Bros University where you got that controller?
@dunzhen9 жыл бұрын
helpful tutorial. thank you
@Anddrew9149 жыл бұрын
How do you tilt the stick without rolling while shielding?
@rumfordc8 жыл бұрын
do it slow or get the control stick in position *before* you press shield
@AssertivePenguin10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid!
@Purey977 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU SO MUCH
@krazyzyko10 жыл бұрын
Thank you soooooo much for this!!! ^0^
@johnhurley89187 жыл бұрын
won't you roll of you move your stick all the way to the side?
@kaleksi73497 жыл бұрын
Tilt it slowly and you won't roll. It will just angle your shield to the side.
@leroyjenkins37579 жыл бұрын
How the hell are you instantly pulling out z shield without throwing or attacking first?
@recoveredpixel9 жыл бұрын
+Leroy Jenkins It's a light shield and you just have to barely press down on one of the shield buttons. Kind of like at optimal L-Cancel level of pressure.
@leroyjenkins37579 жыл бұрын
recoveredpixel Alright, thanks.
@Orbrun9 жыл бұрын
+Leroy Jenkins or hold a and press z
@OutofLives9 жыл бұрын
Who wants to play my now unstoppable Falcon?
@CapFlipGaming9 жыл бұрын
+OutofLives. I do. Netplay?
@setchi16299 жыл бұрын
+ssbrosking36 Netplay suuucks.
@simonk58269 жыл бұрын
+Adam Farmer only if your internet suuucks
@ghadahassan38069 жыл бұрын
+ssbrosking36 lets do it
@setchi16299 жыл бұрын
+Simon K Nope, it's nowhere near as good as CRT + Wii/GC
@KalebSDay8 жыл бұрын
This works flawlessly shield dropping to the right, but when doing it to the left there is a really annoying spot dodge problem and I have to do the motion a lot slower for it to work :( Any others had this issue?
@Rhycebell8 жыл бұрын
your controller might not be good at doing it to the left you might need to at a notch on the left to help
@KalebSDay8 жыл бұрын
thepieguy1 I found out how to make it work.I have to stop about a millimeter before the next notch down. Wish it would just work down to the notch, but at least I found somewhat of a solution
@tonyquinde7 жыл бұрын
GRACIAS AMIGO!
@NastyKugogo8 жыл бұрын
isai dropping is a nice way to shield drop-
@s_link3 жыл бұрын
6 years later in 2021 people are still trying to learn melee (:
@Tripleyou7 жыл бұрын
and lastly the absolute best way is to angle your shield during shield stun. That way you don't leave youself open and you can shield di optimally
@electromagneticlemon9 жыл бұрын
Can you do this in PM?
@deadelevation2129 жыл бұрын
Yes
@hylianmango82722 жыл бұрын
yo nilered plays smash!!? Jokes aside, good tutorial.
@austintacious949 жыл бұрын
This method is only useful when you have a controller that can do it or reset your controller to be able to do so.
@moraigna668 жыл бұрын
+MeleeMan How do you reset your controller for this method? I never heard of it before.
@austintacious948 жыл бұрын
Hold X,Y,Start for 3 seconds with the control stick tilted opposite of how you want the neutral position to be.
@jamonesbaratoskim80394 жыл бұрын
this video has 2015 likes and it was uploaded on 2015. Nothing wrong with it, just wanted to say it.
@ssbmAndy10 жыл бұрын
victra u handsome kid you.... ill see you at evo nigga. Informative vid. Theres also another way to do it where you do a quick roll motion on the control stick and ending it in neutral position. The roll motion is crucial as it allows for higher chances for hitting that shield drop area.
@TheRealBoof7 жыл бұрын
Hi, Victor :>
@joshuadurham95707 жыл бұрын
If a good player sees your shield angled to one side, he will read the shield drop. Just practice the raw method.
@viscen52017 жыл бұрын
Joshua Durham I mean, you could always read that they'll think that and not shield drop
@Daphnoir9 жыл бұрын
I can shield drop in two ways, pretty consistently now. But i don't 100% understand these steps =$
@ryanfeller90276 жыл бұрын
Alberta gang
@austinfranks2484 жыл бұрын
Why was this video 5 years ago Why was 5 years ago 5 years ago
@TheRush14310 жыл бұрын
Real men do shield drops raw kekeke
@BrunoD58 жыл бұрын
spooky
@tiztoc9777 жыл бұрын
what this guy fails to mention is that this is almost COMPLETELY dependent on your controller LOL you need to have a good enough controller that has its notches correctly lined up with the sd values, otherwise you just spot dodge again and again