How to Obtain the Strongest Competitive Mentality

[@SSBMTutorials]

Wishlist Epiphany City: store.steampowered.com/app/1508530/Epiphany_City/ What do you think is key for a good mentality? And which player exemplifies it the best?

[@sonicfan2015]

Relax before playing

[@milkcube7396]

Sleeeeep

[@Youreoverthinkingit]

Four loko

[@MitchBison]

I think not blaming your character and their match ups is key and Wizzrobe and his Falcon exemplify it best.

[@incronaut]

Zain has said numerous times that in friendlies all he does is focus on the one thing he's learning and spams it over and over again, and does not care about who wins or loses (in friendlies only). Great stuff!

[@TrucidOL8R]

damn i legit teared up at 11:55-12:05

[@SSBMTutorials]

Scar... you can be Top 100. You have the raw talent. I can tell.

[@counterpicky]

Couldn't have said it better in this new era of Melee

[@KalebSDay]

Yeah, I cried watching Axe's post win silent reaction with Vector-Man, live. That stuff was so heartfelt.

[@twelvevoltage]

Love ya Scar, never stop grinding.

[@Slashtap]

Melee will always hold a special place in my heart for teaching me these types of principles. Had it not been for this game, I wouldn't have learned about works like Playing to Win and The Art of War as a teenager. Now in my 30s, I've often been told, "I could never do what you do," and I always think to myself, "That's the only reason that you can't." Mentality is the predominant factor that determines what we're capable of.

[@choknater]

@@someguy2016 true, and sad. I think it’s fine to acknowledge disadvantages but what then? Everyone starts from somewhere but it’s still great to have goals and work

[@warrenwijayaratnam2684]

I hope Zain picks up that you used him as an example for "Social Skills" haha.

[@NakNakPrime]

Zain himself said he playes melee to get good at Reallife

[@st0nks225]

I've had tons of mentality problems lately, so confused wether I wanted to keep doing this or not I've quit like 6 times but I still feel like I wanna come back This video really helps me out and the community Thank u :'D

[@SSB_Seal]

I really wish every player had to watch the segment at 5:00 before playing on unranked. I have days where like 70-80% of people I play quit/give up in the first 30 seconds, and it just blows my mind. I know not everyone is looking to improve and care about their mentality, but I'm just trying to get some real games in! I also appreciate the bit about when to actually leave. Personally, I almost never leave a session unless I have to go (tired/tournament/hands/etc) or if they are BMing (unless they are actually beating me, then I might deal with it just for the practice lol) because there's always something to learn. Great video!

[@Killua19999]

The "don't stop after one game that you win/loose" is so true I think. You often see how predictable another playstyle is and if your own one is predictable as well! I often play the same person up to 15 times if they're willing to

[@deep_cuts2019]

Feels weird seeing Zain in an SSMBT thumbnail. When eras collide

[@GulityZ]

I took a lot longer than I would like to admit to find out what was bugging me about that comment

[@1kevhan]

super smash melee bros

[@bigdro5227]

What serendipitous timing for this upload. Been struggling with mentality for a while and I got me fucked up in bracket the other night

[@ThaRixer]

Man I needed this. My ego has been too big for far too long

[@Gamesforus1]

Probably the best melee tutorial, or even just competition tutorial, on the internet right now.

[@adamice2526]

"current number 1 player in the world: Zain" Leffen is malding right now

[@pIayingwithmahwii]

I mean both mango and hbox were better than leffen before covid. and yeah leffen beats hbox in the h2h, but youre a fool if you think 2019 hbox isnt overall better than 2019 leffen. and mango being ranked #3 in 2019 was a travesty. leffen entered like 3 tournaments.

[@Coolbeans554]

“Current number one player with 0 concrete evidence because there has been 0 offline tournaments in over a year” people really be saying anything I stg. Number one net player. Remember when everybody said people who take netplay serious are clowns and it doesn’t matter, now all we have is netplay and people making outrageous claims. “Yeah bro I’m totally better than you we got a 30 ping lag spike which made you miss an L cancel and I killed you for it” Under no pressure in the comfort of your bedroom 😂😭

[@pIayingwithmahwii]

@@Coolbeans554 i can guarantee you that if zain is still considered the best on netplay by the end of lockdown, he will be the best in the year after. You're so confident, put money on it. Put 500 on it.

[@uberrideadventures271]

@CoolBeans554 sounds like someone has a crush on a certain top player

[@zacharymacaroni7649]

@@Coolbeans554 you type like trump's favorite luigi

[@TigerStripedStealth]

The reason there are so many parallels between Armada and Zain is that both of them recover from losses probably better than anyone else. Their ability to take the pain of losing and consistently turn them into learning opportunities to go in their favor next time is just a small facet of how mentally rock solid they are. Seeing zain lose big house 9 was like watching armada lose genesis 1. And yet, like armada winning genesis 2, zains hard work paid off and after winning genesis 7 he's been reaffirmed that his hard work and mentality can get him the gold. Cheers to melee(:

[@shaneburgess2607]

Just played some unranked after watching this video. I got 3 and 4 stocked the first 2 games, but neither of us quit out. We played for about an hour, and by the end we were trading games. I love melee

[@taylorallred6208]

Melee made me realize that I have a problem with believing other people think I'm incompetent. Realizing this has made me want to have a better mentality in the game but also in life. Thanks for the tips!

[@noodletribunal9793]

Absolutely same. im trying to address it but its so hard to change (｡ŏ﹏ŏ) i seem to have a problem with being bad, too, which may or may not be a part of being afraid of being judged for it.

[@taylorallred6208]

@@noodletribunal9793 Recently I've thought about accepting my status as a "beginner" and allowing myself to do stupid stuff in-game. I'm afraid to try it, but I think if I expose myself to being potentially humiliated I might become immune to other peoples' opinions. OR my ego won't let me. We'll see ( ; - _ - )

[@samuel.d2103]

I love the fact that at 5:41 he just took the controller of Hungrybox and gently replace it on his chair while he was poping off. so kind :)

[@Poet482]

Never seek to win, just make defeat an impossibility and winning comes naturally. To know yourself and also know your opponent guarantees victory as a matter of course. This is much easier said than done, though, especially the part about knowing yourself. Also you gotta stay on top of the metagame to constantly be adapting to cover your weaknesses while also emphasizing your strengths. You can do this, guys. Whatever it happens to be.

[@GanonGerudo]

The best instructional improvement video for a competitive mindset I've ever seen.

[@uselesscamel5360]

5:00 bruh I wasn’t ready for a psychoanalytical therapy session

[@Nunyuh_Business]

Really helpful video. The humility portion really stuck out to me because, at least on unranked (not so much when I play in bracket), I am a really poor loser. I tend to get upset easily if I'm getting comboed, especially when getting chain grabbed or tech chased by a Marth or Sheik or someone. I'm not sure if it's more me getting upset at myself for falling into grabs like that or me getting upset that my opponent is better or something else. Really good thing to point out and I'm hoping this helps me to better identify why my mentality is so bad on unranked but in bracket it's usually okay. I have had times where I've just given up matches because I thought the other person was just flat out better, but looking back at them I definitely could have won those if I really gave it my all instead of just jumping to the conclusion that I don't deserve the win.

[@SSBMTutorials]

hey, takes a big man to be honest with yourself like that. also you came from league so raging is pretty normal. but now that you know better, you got this.

[@lucalyons-sosa9843]

You look at major game companies like Riot who have no clue how to fix their games and just throw shit at the wall and hope it sticks. Addressing real world emotions and interpersonal problems is a really powerful thing and I know for a fact I'll be referring back to this video many times. Shit like this pays dividends in providing for a better community so from myself and the perceived benefit of a video like this, thank you. You're gonna be a great dad.

[@fittogan]

5:18 one of the most important realizations I've had while interacting with "toxic assholes", thank you for bringing this to light!

[@bubblefish3210]

we love u kira dude thanks so much for all ur work❤❤

[@r0flcopter]

[@umbruh949]

Really good video, very helpful for competing! I wanna add to this by saying not every persons main goal is to become a fierce competitor and some people just play the game because well, its fun! Some people play the game just to be cool and that is great. So keep in mind not everyone you are playing will have the same goal as you. And hey that's okay. Just please don't be a person who rages at people for either just playing for fun or when people tryhard against you, everyone can, and hopefully will, play the game how they want to.

[@GulityZ]

Awesome vid! I knew i had problems with mentality but never understood what was going on. After watching I can see how i have major flaws in all 3 components. Thank you so much.

[@scotthoule5439]

Zain picking up Hbox's controller after his popoff was really sweet of him. I'm becoming more and more of a fan of Zains. Great video.

[@SuperFX64]

10:05 Nice use of my wr for the analogy haha x)

[@dahudge9]

As a fellow father I appreciated 9:43

[@MitchBison]

u gotta respect Wizzy for sticking with a mid tier like Falcon and getting top results

[@honathan2135]

Falcon isn't mid tier

[@MitchBison]

@@honathan2135 whoosh

[@honathan2135]

@@MitchBison cring

[@GoodieM8]

I literally JUST turned on notifications and then shortly after get a notif that u uploaded godlike timing

[@treyhallmark5418]

Amazing video this helped me out so much!

[@firestone1026]

very useful video on competition whatever, helped a lot, thank you

[@kenchen9333]

10 ppl who quit out after 1 stock disliked this video

[@zjmullan]

excellent video. serves as solid content for the 3rd skill

[@choknater]

YOOOO haha, happy to show up in the epiphany city beta tester footage LOL

[@samiperfecto]

Great video!!

[@porknbeanz]

Thanks for this . Very good advice I'm actually soaking up

[@dendyxyz]

EVERYBODY WISHLIST EPIPHANY CITY RN

[@ChampionShogo]

Wow this video really really helped me! Thanks so much

[@price5560]

That Wizzy hug was so wholesome

[@KalebSDay]

Hey sometimes I just want to improve my Mario, love to use him when I get close games in the matches so I improve something and they can get some more openings on me too(of course I try to work on those as well). Don't hate everyone's secondary's is all I'm saying haha. Loved the rest of the advice overall :)

[@StarmenRock]

1- stop showering

[@jaredbowers9503]

10:19 Funny cuz I've definitely been putting off both tasks mentioned 👀

[@Omaga297]

Shout out to the fox player on unranked that literally played 2 hours with me, you’re out there somewhere ❤️

[@travisdurrans8866]

Hey Kira, thank you so much for this video. You really described a lot of things I've innately understood but never was able to put to words. Is it okay with you if I recreate this video from the context of another game? Because like you said, these principles apply to everything and I know some people who would really benefit from this

[@oscarbalfour6851]

Haven't managed to play any Melee due to crappy laptop, but I'm gonna apply these principles to my job in the meantime, and when offline comes back, I'll be ready for the true work;)

[@A432Hz]

have you heard of Diet Melee? They made an iso modifier that makes melee low poly, and it runs on my toaster

[@___8241]

Excellent advice.

[@illican]

oh so you're extorting us for melee content now with a wishlist? alright yeah i'm absolutely in

[@Materialist39]

Crucial video, well done.

[@_Rndom]

The humility consent I think I'm pretty good at, one thing tho I need to do is stick to my core character I sometimes switch and then sometimes forget some stuff Learning I need to dedicate more to cuz usually I just play and see, not look at what I can improve Ambition is also something that I really need to improve on

[@Nuhjeea]

Great video!

[@ParagonPKC]

5:23 this Zac socal joke lmaoo

[@countifshine7958]

Learn. Grow. Improve.

[@ColemakDH]

5:00 deadass might be gameplay of me idk

[@r0flcopter]

if it was last night then yeah maybe

[@zacharymacaroni7649]

colemak keyboard gang 😳

[@ColemakDH]

@@zacharymacaroni7649 holy shit someone knows

[@CeilingPanda]

I think these are good advice, hopefully I can have more than 1 ish game with GW per match without people quitting out without actually playing even 1 stock soon enough...

[@sonicfan2015]

Yay new vid

[@palebee_7689]

Man, this has helped me a lot. I will try to use these, and I have already set some goals! Any luigi mains know how to be better on the ledge?

[@unmecabsolumentrandom4006]

ledgedash ?

[@palebee_7689]

@@unmecabsolumentrandom4006 Ok, ill try using it more :)

[@savaget2058]

5:02 This is the actual definition of Low Tier God 😂😂😂

[@tba6]

Congratulations on the son

[@Gruselsnack]

leason for the live!

[@autumnbrushtail]

I was playing a Marth who would not play me whatsoever until I played someone other than G&W.

[@steveharveywithouthismusta9323]

One and doners on Slippi are the worst types of people

[@hirsh7542]

One big assumption during the video about character switching you made is that people are playing for improvement. Sometimes you just want to chill and not think too hard, there's no reason to assume that people play solely for the sake of improving.

[@dro11]

"Rather than just spamming tech skill wildly for 30 mins" ... I feel attacked

[@incarnate1]

Great video during a time with all these Slippi kids BMing and raging

[@psoup7249]

This videos awesome!

[@newage1361]

I am a falco main and as a falco main, I’m gonna need to up tilt a lot. The problem is that when I try to up tilt, it either makes me jump or it makes me do an up smash what do I do

[@MINISWISS1]

Lol about time he’s on this

[@fatalfoams]

First let’s go ssbm tutorials

[@CC_-pn2og]

Wow I am surprised I did all this but one thing, playing people worse than me

[@goosekhan6396]

Hey Kira, great video, but at 2:05 you say "studies show that if ppl even hate an activity..." but throughout the video you did not cite the study. Could you provide a source? Going forward I think it would be good if you cited those soruces in the description too

[@SSBMTutorials]

I'll be 100% honest, for the life of me I could not remember where I saw it, and i tried finding it for a really long time before giving up because I wanted to put it in the video. It was about a group of people who were asked if they liked watching american football- out of those who said no, they were asked to just learn 1 new thing about it. They all reported enjoying watching football more and a few even said they would be willing to watch it again. If you find it please tell me bc it was driving me nuts

[@Ch3-Ch3-]

yes new video

[@LegendaryMythril]

i think the example on urgency is actually really bad and will instead reinforce negative thoughts if players fail those objectives due to any reason. you can't control your tournament performance beyond bringing your A game, so setting a result-oriented goal like that will just breed toxicity. the urgency goals should be a lot more self-driven and not something that relies on external factors. i also don't think set deadlines are healthy if you can replace it with diligence instead. the goal should be to become better than you were before, not reach an arbitrary number at an arbitrary date.

[@shield_rat221]

Saddest thing is i can't even try to git gud at maylee because i live in a place where i can't play it with almost anyone :/

[@smol1995]

I dont really agree with the ambition-part of pushing through when you dont want to play. It is after all, just a game, and if you dont have fun, whats the point. Most people wont be top players, and thats fine. Dont push yourself too hard. (loved the rest of the video though!)

[@mlalbaitero]

Nitrous just makes it go fast not makes it get going

[@bigballer4594]

Best place to buy a controller?

[@thorikthorik9879]

How do you deal with the mentality of "I'm putting in more work yet I'm still doing worse" ?

[@chrismdb5686]

What kind of work are you putting in, and how are you doing worse? Lay the specifics out and I and possibly others can try to help.

[@thorikthorik9879]

@@chrismdb5686 I play Fox and practice in Unclepunch for about 5-6 hours a week, labbing things like waveshine confirms, waveshine forwards and backwards, the spacie changrab, ledgedashing, Armada shines, etc. I also play a lot of melee. A friend of mine switched to Sheik about a week ago and although he’s only been playing for about 2 months longer than me, he was consistently 3 stocking me with Sheik without even practicing his character. Before he made the switch, I did ok against his other characters (Falcon, Falco) but he still beat me without even having to lab. He’s also performing much better in tournament than I am. He entered a newbie tournament and got top 4 and took 1 or 2 games (not sets) in actual brackets. I got washed in actual brackets and haven’t entered a newbie tournament in a while. It’s extremely frustrating seeing those around me succeed so much more when I have to put in 3 times the work and take the game 5 times as seriously just to barely keep up.

[@thorikthorik9879]

A couple things I’ve definitely noticed are that I’m not having that much fun a lot of the time and my mindset is much more focused on winning than learning.

[@chrismdb5686]

@@thorikthorik9879 For one, you're arguably playing the most difficult of the tip tiers (tech wise), so you're going to have to out in more work by default just based on the character you main. Don't take it as a sign that you're worse than those around you, because there's a wide variety of reasons as to why those near your skill level may be doing wildly better or worse. Keep in mind that while tech is certainly important - especially with spacies - it's more important to be properly applying the tech than to have perfect execution. If you can, try to download your replays and study them to see what gaps exist in your playstyle. It's touched on a bit in the video but you may be able to identify patterns that trip you up, or common weaknesses your opponents can exploit. You seem familiar with a wide variety of tech already so if you can theorycraft solutions to these problems with that tech and then apply it in match I imagine that will begin to help you tremendously. As for your friend who plays Shiek, don't let that situation get you too down. As I said there's a wide variety of reasons he could be doing better now that he's playing Shiek instead of his past characters, despite not having put in the time. Fundamentals always transfer among characters within a fighting game so despite not having explicitly practiced Shiek he's still carrying experience into every match and - perhaps even more importantly in this instance - he already knows how to fight your Fox whereas his Shiek is something you have far less experience with. Give it time, and maybe put some time into learning that matchup specifically. I had a similar situation in my local scene with Ultimate before the quarantines started, a friend of mine mained Palutena while I main Ridley and he hardly ever seemed to out work in compared to what I had to do. Every tournament he'd cruise down the winner's side of the bracket to grands while I had to fight tooth and nail for a shot at Loser's Finals, but over time I was able to learn to cover holes in my game while adjusting to my opponents and it all eventually came together. With enough perseverance, determination, and hard work (also provided you have the free time) you can overcome this. The only limit to what you, or anyone, can accomplish is what you want to achieve for yourself.

[@chrismdb5686]

@@thorikthorik9879 Also, keep in mind that winning isn't everything. If you obsess over winning constantly or 'just beating that one guy' it'll consume you and you won't enjoy yourself anymore. Set small goals for yourself to work towards so you can see tangible progress, this will not only help you stay motivated (because you'll have a more tangible sense of progress), but these small goals will be much easier to accomplish than the daunting end goal you've made for yourself. You need to do the side-quests so you're a high enough level to beat the final boss if you know what I mean. If the game isn't currently fun you need to experiment to try and find what you loved about it again. Maybe that takes the shape of playing more friendlies and practicing tech less often, perhaps it's trying to play other game modes, or other games entirely to keep from getting burnt out, or perhaps you even end up stepping back and coming at the game with a whole new mentality. This is different for everyone, but given enough time I'm sure you'll find that spark and rekindle it.

[@mario77263]

It’s unfortunate that broken individuals like me have to work even harder to simply be in the right headspace to play.

[@Tommy2_0]

learn grow improve

[@ssbVanilla]

sick

[@Tmathh]

chokenator ?

[@calciumgod8981]

lets go

[@minniemedley5556]

Maybe "are you a Mr game and watch player"

[@NesDaKid]

Zain is close 2nd

[@koedurley8582]

Hype hype

[@tao5331]

Does Armada have a good mentality ?

[@r0flcopter]

incredible mentality, imo

[@cherryb0ng]

*Isn't it good to be proud about the things we achieve?* Well sure it is, but you're not Leffen

[@sunnyfalco3339]

did m2k punch the shit out of wizzy in the head at 6:40? lmaoo

[@joshsjunglejam]

KIRA HAS A KID?????

[@retromec4757]

I thought this channel died?!

[@Vestedd]

Lol - look guys. its Fortune ROFLLLLLL

[@littlemisseevee2309]

sometimes I switch characters because I didnt like how lame a previous match was and wanted to make it easier on myself, like when I fight the lamest match with ori and I just need a change of pace to one of my worse characters But I like learning mus regardless its just some fights are beyond draining

[@mpdrago1730]

rivals of aether player in the building

[@littlemisseevee2309]

@@mpdrago1730 ye, ori main bb, absa and sylvanos secondary, I mostly just use ori tho, unless I need a change of pace, hence my secondaries

[@mpdrago1730]

@@littlemisseevee2309 yea I main orcane and Clairen

[@littlemisseevee2309]

@@mpdrago1730 ori main, absa and sylvanos secondary, I find them fun too so I picked em up even though I don’t need em to win matches, in fact I’m best with ori by a long shot lol edit: just realized I already said that

[@jtobiasthomasrose]

Everyone go watch Andrew Huberman

[@dazeen9591]

Hard to get good at something when you have major depression and hate yourself and even hate the activity unless you're performing at top 0.1% level despite having piss poor equipment since you can't justify getting good equipment without first getting the results you would only except if you used top of the notch gear. Bad internet also making the game almost unplayable half the time and not being able to play with competitive rulesets because you'd have to wait several hours for a low tier match with no proper coordination. Just a glorified DM fest. Aaaaaaaaa I'm never getting good. I can't learn anything anyway. It's really only about getting aimbot level aim but I can't do that. I can't force myself into playing 5 hours of death match, then like 2 hours of MGE and then like additional 2 hours of bot tracking and then spend like 2 hours scrimming or analysing demos twice a week and then also spending another like 3 actually playing the game

[@cxgx9054]

Sethlon > Zain Roy

[@pIayingwithmahwii]

At 7:38 , no. I AM a better person than 1-and-doners. They are far and away the most toxic players on unranked. As someone who consistently 3-4 stocks people who beat me game 1, the 1-and-doners who think they're better than someone because they took ONE game are jokes. They are fundamentally jokes as people, and will never accomplish anything in life. All of the best players I've played in unranked (Squid, FatGoku, several other pros), they ALWAYS play at least 2 games, no matter how badly they beat me. Without fail. It really goes to show

[@pIayingwithmahwii]

and yeah some people do just have to go, but the consistency of so many people leaving after winning 1 game--that's not random chance

[@SSBMTutorials]

Let’s say there’s a toxic 1-and-doner, but one day they realize their mistake and they stop doing that and earnestly change. Would you still say that they’re a joke of a person who will never accomplish anything?

[@SSBMTutorials]

Also, what is your standard of ranking people? Surely you don’t think that someone who earnestly improves at Melee, but murders people is a better person than someone who’s worst crime is raging in a video game. So then there must be more depth to this issue, right?

[@pIayingwithmahwii]

@@SSBMTutorials never said there wasn't more depth to it. Also, I don't think a murderer is a joke of a person--murder is serious, ragequitting is a rude joke. But the fact that 1-and-done is such a common thing leads me to believe that "once you go 1-and-done you never go back." I don't think there's a way to analyze whether people change their 1-and-done behavior over time, so we'll probably never know if they actually do change. I don't consider, say someone like you or me, maybe you ragequit once after winning a close match, and you never really do it again. that doesn't count as reforming your ways imo, that's just you had one bad instance. everyone has them. there are people who do it consistently.

[@NesDaKid]

Mang0 is currently the best Melee player

[@KuhEssen]

This is filled with questionable advice for mid-higher lvl players. This is probably targeted at very new players. Play for 30 min? Bad idea. Playing many people and learning a little bit each time is much better. Being able to adapt and not drilling down on 1 person's habits is better. No tournament has 30 min worth of games, so not worth practicing that way unless you are still noob slow at adapting. Also, all the "take the highground" stuff is conceited and will only hold you back mentally.

[@KuhEssen]

@Luxmore My comment? I gave a pretty good reason playing many opponents is better. You can disagree, but you gave a falacy in reasoning, so not convincing.

[@KuhEssen]

@Luxmore Honestly that is a really toxic response. This video is supposed to be constructive and I gave a constructive criticism bc I have experience succeeding after practicing and disagreed with the ideas presented. You responded pretty immaturely.