SSL Fusion? Nah, not for me...

  Рет қаралды 1,491

WheelieMix

WheelieMix

Күн бұрын

00:00 : Intro.
00:28 : What I like about the unit.
01:13 : The Vintage Drive, not so vintage imho.
02:04 : Vintage Drive on a vocal, feels better to me.
02:57 : Input doesn't impact the audio transformers. Why? :(
03:26 : The hidden LMC Comp, urgh?
04:50 : LMC + Vintage Drive, better but still doesn't cut it imho.
06:24 : Pushing the SSL Fusion to the extreme? Is it interesting? Not really.
08:24 : Adding the transformer doesn't adds much in that context.
08:52 : The Stereo Image vs plugin (BasslanePro by Tone Projects).
10:08 : The Violet EQ, okay I like this one!
13:07 : What about weird settings? Stereo Image on a mono bass track??
14:44 : Saturation+LMC+Transformer = Artificial transient added!
15:38 : Conclusion
Any more time to waste to the Gauds of social media? Follow me not on Instagram where I am much more active at sharing interesting audio stuff : / wheeliemix
Here is a 100% honest review/opinion about the Solid State Logic Fusion outboard studio gear. It is just my OWN OPINION (don't kill me) coming from my own taste and experience mixing in a hybrid setup and sometimes 90% analog (on an SSL 4000G+).
Key words for KZbin referencing (do not read, it's not interesting) :
SSL Fusion, outboard gear, plugins, mixing engineer, mixing, music production, music producer, mixing tips, music production tips, analog gear, analog vs digital.
Au revoir!

Пікірлер: 58
@JoeyFTL
@JoeyFTL 4 ай бұрын
The unbelievable, the majestic, the venerable, the one and the only... WheelieMix! You grace this platform once more! Praise the lord
@WheelieMix
@WheelieMix 4 ай бұрын
Hahaha that's very hyperbolic but I appreciate that a lot! Thanks a lot man
@JoeyFTL
@JoeyFTL 4 ай бұрын
@@WheelieMixthanks for being awesome
@WheelieMix
@WheelieMix 4 ай бұрын
@@JoeyFTL Thanks for the kind words
@graywyot
@graywyot 4 ай бұрын
I'm glad you're back (KZbin). Super exciting with your "Unbiased reviews". Great video as always mate!
@WheelieMix
@WheelieMix 4 ай бұрын
Hey, ha good to see you again! I am happy to see you here too :D!
@gffg387
@gffg387 3 ай бұрын
WheelieMix!! Great to see a new video!
@WheelieMix
@WheelieMix 3 ай бұрын
Ha thanks Gus! I hopefully while get time to post more!
@ronson795
@ronson795 4 ай бұрын
How did you set up Baseline Pro to use it on a whole track? I only used it on bass because when I tried it on higher frequency ranges it sounded kinda weird. But I didn't went into "science" testing with it.
@WheelieMix
@WheelieMix 4 ай бұрын
I pushed the width a bit (not too much) and pushed the harmonics on side (on side mode). I think it was on the medium intensity. That's usually what I do and it works pretty well with me :). The trick is not to push the width too much.
@bontempo1271
@bontempo1271 4 ай бұрын
I can't believe there is a new Wheeliemix video lol. What a surprise - and KZbin finally put a notification for it. I can tell you was very disapointed with the Fusion ! Understandable, i felt the same. It's good for someone who is ITB and wants an all in one box for the mixbus. I was gonna say it's a good opportunity to compare it with the Kiive plugin but they didn't emulate the transformer or the HF compressor
@WheelieMix
@WheelieMix 4 ай бұрын
Hahaha happy to still see you here hehe! Glad YT notified you :D. Yes the Fusion is not baaaad, but it's still a good chunk of money so it better blows me away or I won't keep it. Yes Kiive didn't but they emulated the Rupert Neve unit, which seems like a much more interesting unit to me (not the same price too hehe).
@bontempo1271
@bontempo1271 4 ай бұрын
@@WheelieMix The Neve emulation on the Kiive plugin sounds nice, i much prefer it to the Fusion. Still the thing for me is whether i would use it on a bus because if a plugin isn't doing what hardware does with dimension then i still have to rely on hardware for the mixbus. I really like it though.
@WheelieMix
@WheelieMix 4 ай бұрын
@@bontempo1271 Yes also the Neve he emulated is 3x the price of the Fusion. But I'd prefer it too. To be 100% honest, I don't think hardware brings any "dimension". A stereo track will still be stereo. The sense of depth and width is usually very easily explainable on a scientific standpoint and has very little to do with actual "dimension" and "depth". All of the sense of dimension, depth, width are trickery we do to ours ears. So I don't think that "dimension" could also be brought by plugins, it's just a different route to take, that could maybe take more time to tweak.
@bontempo1271
@bontempo1271 4 ай бұрын
@@WheelieMix Yes it's just our perception, but it's definitely there. I hope one day this mystery is solved
@WheelieMix
@WheelieMix 4 ай бұрын
@@bontempo1271 Indeed it's just our perception :). Just by saying that I think you solved the mystery actually.
@ILoveTeles
@ILoveTeles 4 ай бұрын
Curious what you think is better in the price range.
@WheelieMix
@WheelieMix 4 ай бұрын
To be honest, it's hard to beat in this price range. But I'd rather get a nice stereo EQ or a nice stereo buss comp rather than an all feature packed unit that does not wow me on most. But that's just me :). Also the resale value keeps plummeting. Which is not great.
@eyesintheskies
@eyesintheskies Ай бұрын
Would rather the neve mbt but it’s 3x the price 😕 Was curious about this one but the fact it’s not great when really pushed is kinda putting me off. Can you recommend any alternatives with similar feature set?
@WheelieMix
@WheelieMix Ай бұрын
Yeah the Neve is kinda expensive and the SSL seem to be the only one in that price point. Personally, I'd grab a Violet EQ if you like the EQ from it. It can be found for quite cheap on the 2nd hand market. Then probably a pair vintage transformers (which can be found for cheap too) and just roll with that. It's not giving you everything but it's giving you the EQ and saturation. The HF compressor could be imitated in the box quite easily, and the Drive doesn't sound great when pushed so it's better to keep it subtle anyway. Although don't get me wrong : This video only shows MY TASTE, not an ultimate truth. I can see why some people may like it. Especially for those who likes more modern sound.
@eyesintheskies
@eyesintheskies Ай бұрын
@@WheelieMix cheers for the advice 👍🏼 i guess master bus processing is meant to be pretty subtle, but would be nice to really drive it now & again. I have an analogue mixer & pair of reasonable eq, thinking of adding warm audio's 2mpx, which has the transformers , full voltage tubes . Used subtly on the master bus could work good enough for me! Then maybe add the spl gemini for stereo width depth m/s fun. Thing is add those 2 up & im at the Neve price point 🤦🏼😂 Enjoyed you vid anyway refreshingly honest 👍🏼
@WheelieMix
@WheelieMix Ай бұрын
@@eyesintheskies Yes true. Although some style call for aggressiveness on the mixbus sometimes. Ha yes, I personally do not buy Warm products. Because of their low resale value and also I wasn't convinced by all the tests I listened to (except their 1073 seemed to sound quite good). Gemini sounds fun! Yeah, do not forget about 2 transformers. They can do wonder on the mixbus, they are passive and very cheap (much cheaper than any outboard gear). Actually as we speak, I am exporting a mix with a pair of 60's transformers on the mixbus and I am really liking the result! Haaa thanks for the kind word. There are too many reviews that are brown-nosing brands hoping to get free stuff or because they are under a contract. I am trying to offer something different and honest, eventhough not perfect and polished (I am clearly not a KZbinr and got no time to be one hehe).
@eyesintheskies
@eyesintheskies Ай бұрын
@@WheelieMix i agree, i quite like saturating a whole mix sometimes. In fact im probably prone to overdoing it 😂 As for warm audio thing id probably take advantage & buy used. The 2mpx has cinemag transformers, inside & is based on an old ampex 351 50s/60s unit. But i imagine the real vintage transformers are pretty good. First realised what they can do when i got a hudson broadcast guitar pedal, love that thing! What id really love is that overstayer modular channel, but a bit outside my budget 🤦🏼 Have you heard of it, interesting unit, especially once you get into modulating it via CV. Trying to justify the price tag as looking at it as 3 or 4 units in one & convince myself id be saving money!!!
@WheelieMix
@WheelieMix Ай бұрын
@@eyesintheskies Haha yes gotcha. The Overstayer is great but man it's expensive! It's a never ending quest innit hehe.
@YoungNino2017
@YoungNino2017 Ай бұрын
I've been watching videos on this thing all day and I really can't tell... but I feel like you're right... it doesn't do anything all that special
@WheelieMix
@WheelieMix Ай бұрын
If I have to be 100% fair, a lot of videos on YT are done for 2 main reasons : ° Brand partnership. So it's a sales pitch. Disguised as a review. Infomercial kind of thing. ° Overly positive review because the person expect to get the good favors of the brand and get some free stuff. So it's def hard to understand what it does. Because the information on YT is has colored as a Smash Mouth videoclip. If you have anyway question in regard to what you expect that unit would do, I'd happily answer. In all fairness. Because I don't think it's a bad unit at all, but just did not fit my taste (which are very specific to be fair).
@user-nr9ln8go8r
@user-nr9ln8go8r 4 ай бұрын
And I really like SSL Fusion!!!
@WheelieMix
@WheelieMix 4 ай бұрын
If you like that's great! I found a few cool sounds out of it tbh ☺.
@khalilroukoz
@khalilroukoz 3 күн бұрын
Nice video! Im a few steps away from selling mine, the only pros i hearor use is the violet eq and the insert point! Vintage drive too noisy, not sure why in holding on to it
@WheelieMix
@WheelieMix 2 күн бұрын
Ha thanks! Yeah Violet EQ is cool, the 500 version is exactly the same and quite affordable. I also like the insert point and especially the M/S matrix it offers. But it was too expensive for me to keep it just for that. Was great on vocals too, I'd have kept it just for vocals if it had a utilitarian compressor instead of the quite bad "talkback" compressor (that sounds nothing like the original imho).
@aviatedviewssound4798
@aviatedviewssound4798 4 ай бұрын
Me too brother, I am a RND guy. I missed you my guy.
@WheelieMix
@WheelieMix 4 ай бұрын
Haaaa thanks man haha :D. I am glad to be back! Which RND gear do you have instead of the Fusion?
@MarkyGoldstein
@MarkyGoldstein 4 ай бұрын
I have never heard a good drive in the box. That's where analog usually shines.
@WheelieMix
@WheelieMix 4 ай бұрын
How would you characterize a "good drive". I know tough question, but depending on your answer, there could potentially be some plugins I could recommend.
@hinky7729
@hinky7729 4 ай бұрын
@@WheelieMixwhich plugins?
@WheelieMix
@WheelieMix 4 ай бұрын
@@hinky7729 It depends on what he means by "good" drive box. Some people love very bright "punchy" saturation. Others prefer more mellow/soft saturation etc...
@hinky7729
@hinky7729 4 ай бұрын
@@WheelieMix just give us some tips for both (if you have the time). My generation didnt grew up on analogue - so it is very interesting for us, when someone with experience share their impressions
@WheelieMix
@WheelieMix 4 ай бұрын
@@hinky7729 Hey I didn't grew up on analog too, I grew up with an ASUS laptop, ain't no boomer or X xD. Jokes aside, tell me what you like because there are literally 10 000 options. So there is no point in me recommending you something you won't like or use ;).
@MariJu1ce
@MariJu1ce 4 ай бұрын
always sounded better when you bypassed it haha
@WheelieMix
@WheelieMix 4 ай бұрын
Pretty much hehehe x). Ah it was alright on the vocal imho. No don't you think?
@MariJu1ce
@MariJu1ce 4 ай бұрын
transformer sounded good sometimes! but i would think that I could get that topend air trough many other ways@@WheelieMix
@WheelieMix
@WheelieMix 4 ай бұрын
@@MariJu1ce To be honest that's a very good point indeed, I agree with you here.
@cubaseman1487
@cubaseman1487 4 ай бұрын
Your mix very noised 😮
@WheelieMix
@WheelieMix 4 ай бұрын
It's a rough mix here, and I don't know what you mean by "noised" sorry.
@rectape
@rectape 4 ай бұрын
Made in China...
@WheelieMix
@WheelieMix 4 ай бұрын
Yes I think it is indeed.
@Faithaven
@Faithaven 4 ай бұрын
Most gear is actually
@rectape
@rectape 4 ай бұрын
@@FaithavenNot in the high end audio equipment
@Faithaven
@Faithaven 4 ай бұрын
@@rectape well I have $5000+ pieces of gear so maybe anything over that. If you can point to sources that would be great. I will research including its assembly and where the components are from.
@WheelieMix
@WheelieMix 4 ай бұрын
I think Audioscape are made in the US. Culture Vulture I think are made in the UK. Buzz Audio some were made in NZ. But my knowledge regarding new outboard gear is pretty limited in that regard I must confess.
Have you ever used the SSL Fusion like this?
12:27
SX Pro
Рет қаралды 10 М.
SSL 360 Update- UF1, UF8, UC1 Workflow
8:56
Steve Kinney
Рет қаралды 3,8 М.
Little girl's dream of a giant teddy bear is about to come true #shorts
00:32
Scary Teacher 3D Nick Troll Squid Game in Brush Teeth White or Black Challenge #shorts
00:47
Solid State Logic SSL 12 Review - 5 things people aren’t talking about!
20:47
Harv Video/Audio Stuff
Рет қаралды 47 М.
Watch This Before Buying ANALOG GEAR In 2024
11:26
That Pro Mix
Рет қаралды 27 М.
is SSL Fusion WORTH IT in 2024??
12:48
Colt Capperrune
Рет қаралды 35 М.
Neve MBT & SSL Fusion | Kiive Audio NFuse Bus Processor Plugin!
20:57
Home Recording Made Easy
Рет қаралды 4,8 М.
You Don't Understand Saturation
17:01
sseb
Рет қаралды 193 М.
Recording Drums SSL Origin vs PreSonus StudioLive
23:53
Mixing Music Analog
Рет қаралды 8 М.
SSL FUSION m/s mode insert (with THE BRUTE/ TG OPTO500)
14:16
Плагины на все случаи жизни - для сведения и мастеринга!
26:57
Александр Черевков - аранжировка, сведение
Рет қаралды 3,2 М.
I Paid 4 Mixers to Mix the Same Song... The Difference is Shocking
28:04
Hardcore Music Studio
Рет қаралды 563 М.
IL’HAN - Pai-pai (lyric video) 2024
3:24
Ilhan Ihsanov
Рет қаралды 524 М.
Jakone, Kiliana - Асфальт (Mood Video)
2:51
GOLDEN SOUND
Рет қаралды 9 МЛН
Jaloliddin Ahmadaliyev - Kuydurgi (Official Music Video)
4:49
NevoMusic
Рет қаралды 6 МЛН
Erkesh Khasen -  Bir qyz bar M|V
2:43
Еркеш Хасен
Рет қаралды 702 М.
Malohat
3:35
Xamdam Sobirov - Topic
Рет қаралды 959 М.
Munisa Rizayeva - Aka makasi (Official Music Video)
6:18
Munisa Rizayeva
Рет қаралды 7 МЛН