A look at the pressures on the British rail-network.
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@turboslag2 жыл бұрын
One of the biggest travesties of privatisation was the loss of Red Star parcels. During the time we had a family business we used Red Star alot, customers were amazed that they could call in a panic order at the last minute of the day and we could get it to them either that evening, or at worst, early the next day, and at a reasonable price. Many of them didn't even know that Red Star existed! It meant we had to take it to a mainline station, but we weren't to far from Birmingham, so that wasn't a problem, and we never had one single item lost, damaged or late in the time we used them. From what I know, it was bought out by a road haulage company and closed down in favour of HGV transport, how bloody stupid was that?! Thousands of tons of freight crowding the roads even more, absolutely insane. I never use rail travel because as I live on the west side of the country, travel by rail to the east is a joke in every way, cost, time and convenience. As most of any distance travel I do is from west to east the negative factors make it unviable. Any trip I want to take would need at least one change, often more, and from experience I know the likelyhood of missing a connection is high which means I end up on a bus or in a taxi which has to be provided by the rail company in such circumstances. Basically, using my car is cheaper, more comfortable, reliable, convenient and faster than a train.
@True_NOON6 ай бұрын
Well it would use either use empty luggage vans of other timetabled services or the 325 express parcels units , wich were reasonably quick and spaceous
@BogdanSerban7 жыл бұрын
Classic move: cut the budget until the service degrades enough, fares rise and the public asks for privatisation. Then you have the perfect excuse for that.
@annother33506 жыл бұрын
Like the nhs
@electrohalo87984 жыл бұрын
Ann Other NO THAT IS NOT HAPPENING MATE
@Rayven_cat4 жыл бұрын
This the American political strategy as well. Also add media propaganda.
@hamonryechinaski1802 жыл бұрын
OR public sector spunk so much money, give so little value for money that, unless theres huge rax hikes, massive shake up in the remuneration/pensions or massive changes in other publuc owned utilities. I'd argue that NHS, Energy (nuclear/gas) and water had to priorities and I'm sorrier that water was privatised and made so many ex managers into millionaires...
@StuAnderson902 жыл бұрын
Thats not even true.. the real reason was following successful privatisation of Swedish railway the EU issued a directive essentially forcing countries to either allow full privatisation and or allow more private companies to operate.
@brianfearn42463 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fabulous. Adverts from 1990 and only appear occasionally. 2021 thay seem to be every 15 seconds.
@Ass_Burgers_Syndrome2 жыл бұрын
Partly why I don't watch TV anymore.
@chrisnewman72813 жыл бұрын
Privatisation was never about fixing the problem. It was about making it less of a government problem by putting it in the too hard basket where no government in their right mind would dream to re-nationalise it. Having said that the cost the railways are underwritten by the UK tax payer even though if you ask the minister he will he evade the question.
@Wasted_on_4loko9 жыл бұрын
Complete with adverts, hahah, I remember those. And its funny to hear them talking about the channel tunnel and Crossrail before the fact.
@RWL20125 жыл бұрын
Let's not forget Thameslink "2000"!
@brianfearn42463 жыл бұрын
Those thameslink trains are now in use in Liverpool after refurbishment a few years ago.
@jayfarnsworth799 жыл бұрын
Thanks for uploading this. It was fascinating to watch! Amazing to look back, it is a shame most of it was accurate in its predictions :(
@permartinsen68546 жыл бұрын
this is the story of the slowgoing planned destruction of the once in a time fantastic british rail system. incredible tragic to see how all the predictions was right.
@richardclarke3768 жыл бұрын
hilarious they talk about upgrading the Borough Market junction and Crossrail - schemes which are now, 26 years later, only 2-3 years away from completion! 20 years of public inquiries and talking!
@s125ish3 жыл бұрын
Richard Clarke I'm sure the borough market has been done
@TheWesternAS11 жыл бұрын
BR was essentially the countries biggest tool for driving the economy. The development of the APT should have lead to a dedicated passenger only high-speed line connecting several main transport hubs in England and Scotland, like what is now common in Europe. But BR was held back, the project was abandoned and we are suffering greatly for sheer shortsighted administration meaning we now have one of the least efficient rail networks in Europe. Successive Governments were to blame not BR.
@84Knuckles7 жыл бұрын
TheWesternAS we could have called it "high speed" and then added numbers as to its construction order or hs1, hs2 etc..... oh wait.
@sr7791 Жыл бұрын
Is this the least efficient network that is running more trains and carrying more passengers than ever?,if you look at Europe and see the poor service off the high speed lines you will see our network is pretty good,here in South West England our services in sparsely populated areas are hourly or half hourly,the equivalent services in Europe would be a few trains a day at best
@Tracks_And_Chill7 ай бұрын
@@84Knuckles hs2, I hardly know her. The conservative’s canceled it :,)
@LMB2223 күн бұрын
APT was crap in BR's hands. Driving car in the middle? Selling it to Fiat was the best decision. At least now it's on the rails.
@squirrelkinns8 жыл бұрын
I see that 'privatization' worked out real well there didn't it.
@electrohalo87984 жыл бұрын
77MrAH except for virgin and the other companies, northern and southern are just bad,
@OlanKenny4 жыл бұрын
@Michael John Dennis Network rail is owned by the government
@maddogtannenx88534 жыл бұрын
People who say these things clearly don’t know how bad the system was before privatization.
@thelasttimelord75504 жыл бұрын
@@maddogtannenx8853 oh right, yeh it was underfunded to influence public opinion to privatise it. I agree that BR wasnt the best but it was a hell of a lot better then privatisation of Rail which gets more subsidy than BR ever got. Also privatisation of Rail has done no significant benefit to the railway. If you want to argue the whole "more people using the railway" then that's becuase of the high housing prices that are forcing people to look elsewhere to find home which means more have to use public transport e.g the trains to get to there place of work.
@raflaughter34744 жыл бұрын
@@maddogtannenx8853 Well, that's a matter of opinion isn't it? I remember British Rail very well, and they were damn good in my area. More services, more punctual and the station and train staff actually cared about their jobs. Maybe your area wasn't so good....Network South East maybe? If British Rail had been given more funding by the Tory government instead of being bled dry to make privatisation more juicy to the public then BR would still be around today. No doubt.
@owenevans837 жыл бұрын
"We're running this rail network, not the Europeans". Oh dear, if only he knew what would happen.
@JJVernig5 жыл бұрын
@Owen Evans Wasn't he a european? His pasport did say so I think ;-)
@whangie14 жыл бұрын
JJ Vernig Are people in Britain still Europeans? They are so xenophobic they don’t want to be.
@Razmatazuk4 жыл бұрын
No we aren't Europeans, because we live on an island, not the continent of Europe
@JJVernig4 жыл бұрын
@@Razmatazuk maybe not, but that was my view.
@english_electric71254 жыл бұрын
@@Razmatazuk By your way of thinking the Isle of Wight isn't part of England, yet it has been since as long as England has existed as an entity.
@lesigh17493 жыл бұрын
This doesn't seem all that long ago, and every train shown in this programme was entirely designed and built in Britain. Fast forward to today, and almost nothing on our railways is British made. 🤔
@djtrainspotter3 жыл бұрын
The Foster Yeoman class 59's were built across the pond. Possibly the most driven loco class in the world by female drivers. My ex was one!!!!
@TheMusicalElitist2 жыл бұрын
@@djtrainspotter What does the gender of the driver have to do with anything? As to you have a gf - your sock puppet doesn't count as having a relationship.
@cogitoergotsum4 жыл бұрын
Watching this in 2019 and all I see is the current battle over the NHS.
@Benjamin.Jamin.Ай бұрын
33:00 "We want to expand Thameslink and build Crossrail"... well we got there in the end. Only took 30 years!
@RWL20125 жыл бұрын
44:41 28 years later in 2018, those "quick fix Skippers and Pacers" are still going...
@owenevans835 жыл бұрын
Not for too much longer
@RWL20124 жыл бұрын
@@owenevans83 all 3 National Rail Pacer operators (Northern, Transport for Wales and Great Western Railway) have applied to run them into 2020 due to Class 769 delivery delays
@owenevans834 жыл бұрын
RWL2012 True, but progress is being made and several Northern 142s have been withdrawn
@JourneywithSmee4 жыл бұрын
This is true. The branch line from Barton upon Humber to Cleethorpes still uses them!
@RWL20124 жыл бұрын
@@JourneywithSmeePacers are now allowed to run until mid-2020 under dispensation from law that exempts them from the 1/1/2020 accessibility regulations deadline for 6 months
@kevanhubbard96733 жыл бұрын
Sectorisation was the prelude to privatization only unlike John Major Mrs Thatcher didn't admit to although she believed in state aid for motorists and her followers still do now.
@84Knuckles7 жыл бұрын
We need to stop trying to make money out of railways and run them for the benefit of the users! I.e. The public!
@muttley88184 жыл бұрын
That's all well and good but to make a good railway, you need money. And the British government have never been fans of heaping money into rail. That's why they wanted it privatized.
@steelernation19892 жыл бұрын
As for the narration, is anyone else getting a hint of Alan Partridge?
@mrlardster3 жыл бұрын
And now in 2020 we still pay rip off fares to travel on old dirty knackered trains, infact some of those old dirty knackered trains that featured in this 30 year old video are still amazingly banging and clattering their way around the country, it's just now it's all done under private and foreign ownership! Haven't we come a long way eh!!!
@resiheritage93702 жыл бұрын
The slam door stock was withdrawn in 2005. The units that are approaching 30 now were new in this video. But those units are a lot more reliable than modern units because back then we built our rolling stock in UK. We didn't reply on foreign imports.
@cameroncameron2826 Жыл бұрын
We've come a long way yes. Its been a long process of sabotage and handing over ALL UK assets to Europe.
@True_NOON6 ай бұрын
Aswell as most of the trains being owned by banks via leasing companies draining the TOCs even further leaving even them in a constantly fucked state of not being able to pay full ownership due to the high cost of just being able to have the stock , unless one is a directly govermental operator (LNER/TPE/SCR)
@TG_Trains3 жыл бұрын
4:09 That’s the bridge over the M25 that said “Give Peas A Chance” on it up until recently, I’m sure of it.
@IN_THIS_DAY_AND_AGEАй бұрын
They could move half a million tons of coal a week. Now we have no mines and no coal fired power stations. Even though we have enough coal for 300 years.
@javiergomez997010 жыл бұрын
The train passing with the camera on the railtrack was also featured on the episode running to time
@vhayes22573 жыл бұрын
Quite a few images from that documentary were reused here as it happens...
@jonathandnicholson3 жыл бұрын
Genuinely interesting!
@Thunderer08729 жыл бұрын
borough market Junction note that's where, Lock Stock was filmed and was in the second 'The Gateaway' PS2 game.... enjoy! :)
@uhegbu6 жыл бұрын
Cannon Street station at 33.12 above the river Thames not far from the junction mentioned near London Bridge.
@TheWesternAS11 жыл бұрын
The sad truth is is that if tomorrow we suddenly had a fantastic new efficient and clean network like that of France we would still be holding our breaths expecting it to all come undone very quickly rather than having pride and faith.
@Hascienda27 Жыл бұрын
Chinese steel and Spanish trains, such pride
@z00h10 жыл бұрын
TheWesternAS "23 years after this program and we have one of the most expensive and complicated rail networks in Europe." Expensive - yes, complicated - yes, efficient - fuck no. 24 years after this aired we're still working on tweaks mentioned in this programme - like Thameslink 2000 became TL 202X, Crossrail similar, Borough Market is only now being worked on. AWS is still the main system protecting our network. etc etc etc
@Reddsoldier7 жыл бұрын
If anyone asks why i'm so opposed to privatised railways, i point them to these documentaries made in the late 1980's. Sure BR would have dragged their heels a bit on sorting their proposals out, but it wouldn't have taken over 30 years.
@turbopacer3 жыл бұрын
44:57-45:00 "the Pacer was the best vehicle around"
@thomasawl2 жыл бұрын
This is why taking your meds is important
@peterknight6535 Жыл бұрын
As Roger Freeman said --- we're running the railways, NOT the Europeans. He's right, they're running the railways --- into the ground.
@ilokivi4 жыл бұрын
Wondering how the people in this programme would view the franchising system introduced in the 1990s given its effects on punctuality, integration and value for money.
@gordonjohnson843211 ай бұрын
Chris Green had the right idea.....all those years ago.......cross rail....Elizabethan maybe......just saying....
@davidclaytonddc3 жыл бұрын
The politictians who privatised our rail networks, never gave BR a chance.
@brianfearn42463 жыл бұрын
1990 BR problems on the Railway. I believe everything runs perfectly now in 2021 . Am I dreaming 💤
@thebrummierailenthusiasts53292 жыл бұрын
14:12 look how everyone came out of the window of the coach near the steam locomotive after the signalman said there’s a cow on a line
@markem412 жыл бұрын
The driver should have said "eee, I thought I told me wife to stay at home".
@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329 Жыл бұрын
Really mark
@lawrencecody408510 ай бұрын
These days job stopped, back then ,stop the train, tell the driver to go at caution, and report his findings at the next box,.and common sense prevailed. not some rule thought up by someone with little knowledge on how to keep a railway running..and as an ex-signalman that`s how we dealt with it, and with track/signal failures, let the train go up to the last controlling signal,and instruct the driver accordingly, the job kept moving, it worked well, but these days, they just cancel trains, and maybe drivers don`t have the experience like BR drivers had..I get so annoyed when there is an "incident", and its all OTT the way they deal with it, causing nothing but unnecessary delays..all covering their own backsides, rather than keeping the job moving..
@PeterBorenius8 жыл бұрын
Introduced to the British public simply as chairman of Imperial Chemical Industries (ICI) Beeching's link to explosives and nuclear weapons was never mentioned. After a stint at the Woolwich Arsenal designing anti-tank weapons in World War II, Beeching had been moved on to the top secret ‘Tube Alloys’ project which was a cover for the development of the first British atomic weapons. At Royal Ordnance’s secret Fort Halstead base under the North Downs near Sevenoaks in Kent, Cottrell reveals, Beeching’s expertise in metallurgy made a key contribution to Britain’s rudimentary nuclear arsenal. The success of Britain’s 1950s atomic testing program brought Beeching the top job at ICI. Qualifications in metallurgy and state-of-the-art explosives were not, you might think, the ideal qualification for a man whose job was to go through the accounts of British Railways with a fine toothed comb. No, the reason Beeching was hired was because the Conservative government had already decided his job was chop up the railways to make way for the motor car and they needed a figurehead that could keep his mouth shut. www.rt.com/op-edge/205547-beeching-railway-network-britain/
@simonfrost7094 Жыл бұрын
Not too surprising when you consider that the Minister for Transport, Ernest Marples, held shares in a road construction company - his family's company! He sold them due to conflict of interest - to his wife! Then he bought them back once the scandal died down. The railways never had a chance.
@germancarfan3 жыл бұрын
Nice upload thanks for sharing
@pickledegg198910 жыл бұрын
#BringBackBritishRail
@cannadineboxill-harris2983 Жыл бұрын
I needed to know why they don’t dig a tunnel and do an extension for the main line Train so that they can extend the unused abandoned underground train stations. Why couldn’t they use the part D78 Stock train doors on the sides and also restructure the front face of the A60 and A62 stock and that includes the class 313, class 314 and class 315 remix and make them all together and also redesign them an overhead line and also make them into Five cars per units and also having three Disabled Toilets on those Five cars per units A60 and A62 stock trains and also convert the A60 and A62 stock trains into a Scania N112, Volvo B10M, Gardner 6LXB, Gardner 6LXC and Gardner 8LXB Diesel Engines and also put the Loud 7-Speed Voith Gearboxes even Loud 8-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Gearboxes in the A60 and A62 stock, class 313, class 314, and class 315 and also modernise the A60 and A62 stock and make it into an 11 car per unit so it could have fewer doors, more tables, computers and mobile phone chargers. A Stock Trains and also having 8 Disabled Toilets on those A stock trains. why couldn’t we refurbish and modernise the Waterloo and city line Triple-Track train tunnel and make it more Larger and extend it to the bank station, making it into a Triple-Track Railway Line so those Five countries such as Australia, Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden to convert the waterloo and city line Triple-Track Railway tunnel into a High-Speed Railway lines? The Third Euro tunnel Triple-Track Railway line to make it 11 times better for passengers so they could go from A to B. Then put the modernised 11 car per unit A Stock and put them on a bigger modernised Waterloo and city line Triple-Track train tunnel so it could go to bank station to those Five countries such as Australia, Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden. The modernised refurbished 11 cars per unit A stock could be a High Speed The Third Triple-Track Euro Tunnel Train So it is promising and 47 times a lot more possible to do this kind of project if that will be OK for London Australia, Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden. oh by the way, could they also tunnel the Triple-Track Railway Line so it will stop from Buckinghamshire, Hertfordshire and Essex so that the Passengers will go to Australia, Germany, Italy, Poland and Sweden and also extend the Triple-Track Railway Line from the Bank to Buckinghamshire, Hertfordshire and Essex Stations so that more people from there could go to Australia, Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden more Easily. Why couldn't they extend the Piccadilly Line and also build brand-new underground train stations so it could go even further right up to Clapton, Wood Street can they also make another brand new underground train station in Chingford and could they extend the Piccadilly Line and the DLR right up to Chingford? All of the classes 150, 155, 154, 117, 114, 105, and 106, will be replaced by all of the Scania N112, Volvo B10M, Gardner 6LXB, Gardner 6LXC and Gardner 8LXB Diesel Five carriages three disabled toilets are air conditioning trains including Highams Park for extended roots which is the Piccadilly line and the DLR trains. Could you also convert all of the 1973 stock trains into an air-conditioned maximum speed 78 km/hours (48 MPH) re-refurbished and make it into a 8 cars per unit if that will be alright, and also extend all of the Piccadilly train stations to make more space for all of the extended 8 car per unit 1973 stock air condition trains and can you also build another Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive Companies and can they order Every 37 Octagon and Every 17 Hexagon shape LNER diagram unique small no.13 and unique small no.11 Boilers from those Countries such as Greece, Italy, Poland, and Sweden, can they make Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive speeds by up to 142MPH so you can try and test it on the Original Mainline so it will be much more safer for the Passengers to enjoy the 142MPH speed Limit only for HS2 and Channel Tunnel mainline services, if they needed 16 Carriages Per units, can they use those class 55’s, class 44’s, class 40’s and class 43HST Diesel Locomotive’s right at the Back of those 18 Carriages Per Units so they can take over at the Back to let those Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive’s have a rest for those interesting Journeys Please!!!!!!!, oh can you make all of those Coal Boxes’s 17 Tonnes for all of those 142MPH Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive’s so the Companies will Understand us PASSENGER’S!! so please make sure that the Builders can do as they are told!!!!! And please do something about these very very important Professional ideas Please? Prime Minister of England, Prime Minister of Australia, Prime Minister of Sweden, Prime Minister of Germany, Prime Minister of Italy, Prime Minister of Poland and that Includes the Mayor of London.
@danwoodhouse92903 жыл бұрын
9:56 ive just seen a clip from LWT news in 1988 where Mike Ambrose was just a common or garden train captain who loved singing over the P.A
@matthewchalker49229 ай бұрын
Bring back BR!
@JourneywithSmee4 жыл бұрын
In the Southeast I'm sure we'd welcome the return of British Rail. 30 years on and the service is worse than ever and more expensive.
@jamie-ln9ew4 жыл бұрын
ah yes 90s television
@shanerr72523 жыл бұрын
You would think the country who invented the railway would have their shit together
@polythenewrappedme610211 ай бұрын
Yes we invented railways. So why do we have one high speed line, and the French have eight built and twelve more under construction.
@TheWesternAS11 жыл бұрын
23 years after this program and we have one of the most expensive and complicated rail networks in Europe. Some may say what we have is adequate for the countries needs but a national network can not be run in the short term, it needs very long term planning and that planning should involve social changes that, unfortunately, are extremely hard to predict. What works well now may not work in twenty years etc. So throw into that tax payers money and you have a big political mess.
@mahlithebest11 жыл бұрын
This is still true today, even though the railways are private
@javiergomez997011 жыл бұрын
That director Roger Ford, I think he was on your other equinox episode, running to time
@christinaburton92974 жыл бұрын
Oh wow slam door trains...sandwiches..happy memories.
@OlanKenny6 жыл бұрын
Cor people opening doors and pretty much getting off the train before the train's even fully stopped!
@tomstickland6 жыл бұрын
Olan Kenny the intercity 125s sometimes stopped at a red light on the way into Birmingham where some carriages were level with a station and people would get off to save commuting back out. The guard was not happy when that happened.
@JourneywithSmee4 жыл бұрын
I remember that with the old slam door trains! There are still a few older trains on the East Midlands railways that still have slam doors.
@magomerlino648 жыл бұрын
Nice commercials
@RWL20124 жыл бұрын
I know right! So retro!
@Thegoldenemerald4 жыл бұрын
30 years later cross fail hasn't finished yet Thames link does and alot of the this thing said like bermondsey dive under happend about 25 years later
@spencerlewis75914 жыл бұрын
In the beginning about the Red robot things, they just basically showed the premises of the DLR.
You are right Governments do not want to look beyond the next election let alone 40 years in the future which is when we will end up getting HS2. The current system is awful the Government could in the long run save a lot of money for itself if it was to rethink the system so ether private companies can have a long term franchise to take a long term view or we have a renationalised network which is unified and can also run itself with the dft or the Germans can run it!
@FinlayLavery3039 жыл бұрын
25 years ago SuperSprinters and Express Sprinters were top of the range, nowadays they seem to be just as hated as the old fist generation dmus they replaced. Too small, too slow, uncomfortable ride, dirty and unclean outside and in, faulty and breaking down, smelling of piss or just aesthetically unattractive now.
@ejcmoorhouse9 жыл бұрын
FinlayLavery303 Actually the Super and Express Sprinters are ok, they have a good ride and the seats are often good. They are likely to remain in service for many years and as long as the train operators keep up the maintenance and cleaning, they'll be fine. The pacers on the other hand aren't very good nor are 150's.
@ejcmoorhouse9 жыл бұрын
***** the class 166's have a 90 mph operating speed the 377's 100 mph. The 377's are also electric, electric trains are often faster to acculturate than diesels like the 166's. So yes the 377's are faster.
@tom2010909 жыл бұрын
+FinlayLavery303 I like the Class 158's though
@magomerlino648 жыл бұрын
+ejcmoorhouse yes but the IC125 is an excellent and very fast diesel 125 mph 200 kmh.
@ejcmoorhouse8 жыл бұрын
Mago .Merlino Well erm yes they are, although there future is limited as lines are electrified and the HSTs are mostly retired from service. Work afterwards will make less use of their speed and more of their power when they go into service with Scotrail. The HSTs aren't very suited to work the work of Sprinters and Networkers which have to stop and start often and work on lines the HSTs trains can't because of weight restrictions etc. The same is true of their replacements the 800s they can't do the work of stopping services that are carried out by units like the Electrostars.
@fathernick99103 ай бұрын
Equinox has no ‘e’ on the end…
@stablestaple3 ай бұрын
Thank you! 👍
@N00N012 жыл бұрын
Its still intresting that the networker sceme, inspite of NSE, and for that the whole of BR being brutaly starved of money, still developing into several batches of MUs across few mainlines, wich wearen't fringe off classes but main power on these routes of wich they were assigned
@firefox59267 жыл бұрын
"well we're running this railway not the Europeans" say ya think that might be the problem ? :P
@JJVernig4 жыл бұрын
Even then the UK didn't acknowledge that they were in Europe.
@Cartoonman1542 жыл бұрын
Guess who run the franchises now. Still, going well?
@javiergomez997011 жыл бұрын
The rolling stock shown at 34.38, I didn't know those were used in those days
@RWL20125 жыл бұрын
you're referring to the Class 319 electric multiple units. they were pretty much brand new then! by the way 34:38 with a colon
@brianfearn42463 жыл бұрын
I think Those thameslink trains were refurbished and run out of Liverpool lime Street now .
@simracer12562 жыл бұрын
There's no e on the end of eqionox
@jayzo10 жыл бұрын
Kinda weird that this is pre-TPWS
@polythenewrappedme610211 ай бұрын
TPWS was introduced as part of the Railway Safety Regulation 1999, for completion by 2003 ?
@RWL20125 жыл бұрын
45:41 nice to see the 158 "Express" in build!
@richardwills-woodward410910 жыл бұрын
Europe was a problem then as it is today. I am glad we left this railway era behind though. It was dark days indeed for railways.
@z00h10 жыл бұрын
hahahaha did we watch the same programme? Based on it mainland Europe was light years ahead of BR, and this was a problem with mainland Europe not GB/BR?
@ChangesOneTim Жыл бұрын
Interesting reminder of the moans and groans about British Rail in 1990...then to remember what the government's answer was in 1994: split it up into a hundred pieces!! Read and weep. Just to correct what was said about ATP: it cannot guarantee to prevent passing red signals, but it does pretty well guarantee that trains don't reach conflict points ahead of red signals.
@StuAnderson905 ай бұрын
"we're running the railways not the Europeans" now it's like which nation hasnt had a chance of ruining our railway. .
@jasonlowe46774 жыл бұрын
If only the Europeans were running our railways
@paulanderson794 жыл бұрын
We can hope. With Brexit looming I'm not optimistic.
@richardwills-woodward53403 жыл бұрын
Impossible. UK is too different.
@Cartoonman1542 жыл бұрын
We are still European lol. You might want to check what companies are behind the franchises.
@sr7791 Жыл бұрын
@@paulanderson79 you can get a train from Germany to non-EU Switzerland so Brexit won’t affect that,our smaller loading gauge will
@paulanderson79 Жыл бұрын
@@sr7791 I am unsure of your point. I am very disappointed that Britain voted to leave The EU.
@frontier_conflict3 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry so many of you guys are salty British rail didn’t work but realistically it doesn’t work. It can’t compete on a modern market and make profit
@steveluckhurst23503 жыл бұрын
British Rail doesn't exist. salty? yeah, sorry I spilled my crisps.
@mikewatt87063 жыл бұрын
Y not do what budget airlines did and have only 1 train model in all UK. Train length depending on location. Maintenance costs would go down
@Ass_Burgers_Syndrome2 жыл бұрын
It could be harder to standardize because it's a bunch of different companies operating different regions around the country
@martinbitter41625 жыл бұрын
It reminds me of todays Deutsche Bahn.
@Roscoe.P.Coldchain Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately we still have these trams as our daily commute to Leeds and they are awful..It’s funny though when you head towards likely they have an electrified line with all the latest trains..? It’s so unfair the system in England tha nos..Please could you give us some new locos please before I go loco homeee
@EmeraldClaws7 жыл бұрын
Anyone know anything about the opening music? Composer? Artist? Download link?
@londonwlogger4 жыл бұрын
It's called Orlando Kimber - Diamond In The Desert :)
@applemask8 жыл бұрын
Could I re-upload the commercials from the middle of this? I'll link back and everything.
@railwork26438 жыл бұрын
yes br cant sue theyre dead xD
@railwork26438 жыл бұрын
well take down the vid
@ianrankin56862 жыл бұрын
Hello,good morning good topics,can someone tell me who the narrator of these documentaries is please,He speaks proper English Excellent many thanks IAN RANKIN 👍.
@cameroncameron2826 Жыл бұрын
Thats only typical of the germans that clandestinely run the UK tbh
@jamesebrown20433 жыл бұрын
"Trouble of the line", eh? That's British Rail video. And I say... Like; 'Trouble of the trolley, eh?' :d 😅
@vhayes22574 жыл бұрын
Can anyone identify the music at the beginning, and again at 47:18 ? Shazam doesn't do it. I know it's probably stock music but you can still sometimes find it.
@londonwlogger4 жыл бұрын
It's called Orlando Kimber - Diamond In The Desert :)
@vhayes22573 жыл бұрын
@@londonwlogger Many thanks
@shanerr72523 жыл бұрын
If they had of installed atp when this is being filmed the Paddington rail crash and the 1997 freight train and passenger train crash that was caught on camera would not of happened
@phantomsvideos2 жыл бұрын
Of....its have...not of
@shanerr72522 жыл бұрын
@@phantomsvideos Yes you are correct thank you! My punctuation is horrible 😂
@theflyingsteamerstoke85346 жыл бұрын
"We're running this railway, not the Europeans".... Here we are today with huge investments from other countries companies and governments in our railways and taking the profits from them....
@JeffreyOrnstein8 жыл бұрын
Well, it could have been worse. BR could have been bought by Amtrak, and then you would have had high-speed trains designed (or rather, dictated) by the US FRA. You would have had a mini-Acela. And don't forget the almost daily crashes.
@lawsonrob8 жыл бұрын
What's so bad about Acela? Certainly far better than anything the US had before and passenger numbers massively up.
@sp00kywestie8 жыл бұрын
They have serious accidents about every few weeks.
@sr7791 Жыл бұрын
@@sp00kywestie every few minutes on the roads here in the U.K.
@NSWRailwaysVideos6 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know what the name of music in the intro is.
@poino114 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/nKqun2OsrK5res0 Track 1 & 2 You are welcome:))))))
@stuartelleray4 жыл бұрын
I've uploaded here :) Orlando Kimber - Diamond In The Desert kzbin.info/www/bejne/fnPZYah4qtVpd5I
@freddieellis8449 Жыл бұрын
This is what happens when you vote Tory….
@lemonbirdo13533 жыл бұрын
What's that thing at 0:05 - 0:07?
@stablestaple3 жыл бұрын
At a guess, a class 319 Thameslink unit.
@BritishArrow11 жыл бұрын
The rail system don't work like your train set tho does it. It's a small version of the mechanics of rail. Does your train set region have an HR department, are you liable for deaths due to collisions? I don't think you'll find running a mass rail network quite as easy as a train set.
@Hascienda27 Жыл бұрын
How do you know what I’ve got in my garage ?
@palexandersquires11 жыл бұрын
This is True, I suppose I should be glad my trainset does not have an HR Deptment and I would not like to be liable for deaths I also think that running my trainset is just for fun I however still think that BR Should of at least retained at least some of the brilliant Deltics for specail charter trains.
@peterkaloczkai94185 жыл бұрын
Does anyone have the title score in full? What is the title of the music?
@londonwlogger4 жыл бұрын
It's called Orlando Kimber - Diamond In The Desert :)
@peterkaloczkai94184 жыл бұрын
@@londonwlogger: Thanks! Unfortunately I couldn't listen to it anywhere... :(
@stuartelleray4 жыл бұрын
@@peterkaloczkai9418 I've uploaded here :) Orlando Kimber - Diamond In The Desert kzbin.info/www/bejne/fnPZYah4qtVpd5I
@peterkaloczkai94184 жыл бұрын
@@stuartelleray You are my true hero, Sir! :) Thanks a million!
@stuartelleray4 жыл бұрын
@@peterkaloczkai9418 Haha no worries, I would save it as an MP4 in case they take down my video!
@JoseSanchez-964 жыл бұрын
The music 1:56-2:46 please? Is so
@stuartelleray4 жыл бұрын
I've uploaded here :) Orlando Kimber - Diamond In The Desert kzbin.info/www/bejne/fnPZYah4qtVpd5I
@JoseSanchez-964 жыл бұрын
@@stuartelleray Thank you, but I was referring to the next melody you mention (the synthesizer song at the Leyland Daf factory and which also appears at minute 20:58 )
@stuartelleray4 жыл бұрын
@@JoseSanchez-96 Oh I see sorry I'm not sure!
@muppetrowlf14736 жыл бұрын
Privitisation was the only option. BR was the working life bible for bad practice and bad management. The only organisation i`ve ever heard of that killed off it`s own World leading project (APT), through sheer management incompitance and indecision. Too much criticism of Government here. It must be remembered that the near vertical cost increases for APT year on year throughout the 70`s, including huge slips in completion time and finally resulted in absolutely nothing. meaning successive Governments were always going to come down hard on them. Upto the mid 1980`s there was no fiscal responsibility, just a nationalised begging bowl. Someone has to defend the tax payer sometimes surely? And the supposed ray of light being HST 125. Trouble is that locomotive became the answer to a question that was never asked.
@polythenewrappedme610211 ай бұрын
Obviously your words were written in jest ? For I cannot believe someone would be so ignorant and misinformed. You clearly never watched this video, or maybe your brain was too small to comprehend. Privatisation did not reduce government interference, it increased it by a hundredfold. Under BR, Intercity ran at a profit and received no taxpayer money. Network South East broke even, and had it lasted another year would also be in profit without subsidy. Only Regional Railways, Freight and Parcels made a loss. But these form a social need especially in rural communities. Not to mention less lorries on our roads. Even taking into account inflation, the subsidy from the taxpayer has gone up by a factor of 8,000 times. So a rotten deal for the taxpayer, an awful deal for the passenger, and a nightmare for the staff. I cannot think of a single benefit. Privatisation was done not for benefit, but because government wanted to smash BR into as many bits as possible. This was the Tories goal under Marples and Beeching, and it remained under Thatcher and Serpell, and continued under Major. No other European country adopted our approach.
@muppetrowlf147311 ай бұрын
Ignorant? Absolutely not. I speak from experience. I get young, sorry leftists saying to me that we need to nationalise the railways on a regular basis. Yet they never traveled on it. I did as soon as I left school in 1986. And what an absolute disgrace it was. Shiny HST in the morning from the dilapidated Wolverhampton platform. Get off at the absolutely filthy Stafford Station. Leave college. Back to a platform of detritus at Stafford. Possibly covered in Coal dust and diesel fumes from a passing pair of Class 20’s. Only to behold the 16.40 service from Glasgow. A dirty stinking train consisting of a faulty Class 47. Dragging Mk3 carriages so dirty you could barely see out of them. Walking over sandwich rappers and polystyrene cups. To sit on a seat whose antimacassar hadn’t been changed since 1979, probably. I say to them as I say to you. Please stop with the rose tinted, ill-informed crap. The Railways under BR were underfunded. Unreliable. Dangerous and always filthy. All because the Unions, backed by the TUC wanted to battle it out with the Tories. Just like the other monumental failure called British Leyland. I don’t blame the workforce. I blame the Unions and the management. The rail network today is not fully private. Government controlled franchises is not what I wanted. I want private companies to be fully autonomous and in control. I support workers rights, but I realise the Train Driving Unions are the same political breed of extremists that killed the car industry. And we shouldn’t allow that. Nobody has a right to work. Or a right to wages. I have no doubt that train drivers are over paid because they are protected from free market forces by the unions. While that exists the railway in Britain will remain an international embarrassment. The Government shouldn’t be running anything. Leave it to the professionals.
@muppetrowlf147311 ай бұрын
… by the way. Freightliner and PD Ports offer state of the art container logistics today. Would this be the case pre privatisation? Absolutely NOT. I rest my case.
@brianfearn42463 жыл бұрын
At 19:02 those two railway robots need to speak English. I couldn't make heard nor tail what they were talking about... like politicians. Just tell them that.... Good bul shitters 🤯
@mikechick2218 жыл бұрын
in way the railway publick dont use a railway it become like a publick foot bath over grown and a venturely back to field its the same with a railway if it ant well used there no point in running it even thoe there are meany railways that are closed should't off been and should be reopened as the would be well used or used modiistly but closing most lines was under beachem and that was mainly a cost cuting excersize that was done bay someone who had a negtive and hatred for railways no mater which party how did it. The bechem scame was poorly doone and was cost cuting no fort for people getting about was really put in to it just cost cutting wich sadly is still happening now but more so with reagly used bus routs even cut know something like trams would help a lot of rurel briten but at the moment the govermeant dont think like that
@alvinjones68568 жыл бұрын
+michael chick when he cut the links to the small towns and branch lines he made the network useless to many folks.
@owenevans835 жыл бұрын
What?
@s125ish4 жыл бұрын
You need to spell properly, it's public
@True_NOON6 ай бұрын
And lable me a doomer thatll be true to some , but to do the ballsiest move wouldve been to ripp it up , close all to show how truely important and efficient rails are , allas who could put the fork into the metaphorical outlet......
@jotarokujo47879 жыл бұрын
😈😈😈😈yes😈😈😈😈
@howardsix97084 жыл бұрын
equinox tw@
@palexandersquires11 жыл бұрын
The Goverment does not care about railways If I was the Goverment I would invest heavly in them like my trainset I have spent £600 on it buying new locomotives and tracks and rolling stock I would spend 80 Million on BR and retain the Deltics for specail trains and the 47`s.
@owenevans835 жыл бұрын
Idiotic comment
@BritishArrow11 жыл бұрын
i got 2 mins into this and was bored
@Chasworth Жыл бұрын
Cool story
@oioi8745f Жыл бұрын
Born in 85...but I wish I could be 21 again and time travel back to 1990, perhaps earlier...with £3million - bliss