Stalker 2 will not be like Anomaly or GAMMA

[@ataman8616]

The A-life system always was the heart of the stalker games, so as long as the zone will be main "protagonist" the experience will be just right. The anomaly and gamma just deepen the feeling of being nothing in the zone. The only thing i wish they get from mods is gunplay, the original gunplay was realy wacky even back in the day. The survival parts and other stuff from mods are not neccesery realy, as long as zone will be "alive," we'll be good

[@jarredspectre]

Yeah the I’m struggling with the gunplay in SoC right now. It feels like the rounds have rng at medium to long range. I probably could have explained the A life system a little more in this video. The only other game that features a similar system that I know of is Kingdom Come Deliverance.

[@spectralassassin6030]

@@jarredspectre Get the VSS from Duty. After using every gun in the game, it feels like heaven with how accurate it is. Just remember you can't take the scope off.

[@jarredspectre]

@@spectralassassin6030 I know of a spot in the attic of a house in the freedom camp that has the vss. On my first play through I used that and an AS VAL. I’m not sure where I picked up the Val though.

[@spectralassassin6030]

@@jarredspectre Oh yeah. I completely forgot about the one in freedom base.

[@dylanwight5764]

A dedicated free-play/survival mode would be a fun addition for post game content. They attempted this with COP to a fairly successful degree and the foundation of Anomaly is built upon this attempt. Bear in mind that earlier builds of SOC attempted this too but were abandoned due to technical limitations rather than a change in artistic and narrative direction. In that sense, Anomaly is the truest representation of what STALKER has _tried_ to be throughout the years... but there's a good reason Heart Of Chornobyl is being called STALKER *2*

[@deurikin2466]

Thank you for saying this. Too many people just expect GAMMA 2 and I feel like more of those stalker fans who haven’t played the original games should. The first 3 made by GSC themselves were brilliant and a great experience. Frankly whatever GSC doesn’t add, modders will most likely port over from anomaly and gamma.

[@dylanwight5764]

The three official titles are _categorically_ less like the original vision for the games than Anomaly. The devs have been extremely open about the fact that they had to massively rein in the scope of the games because of technical limitations of the time. Anomaly integrates those features cut from the games and implements a more robust gameplay loop. Of course, Anomaly runs on an almost completely different engine with most of the jank (may it rest in peace) fixed or replaced altogether. All that being said, the official releases are still a particularly unique experience well worth the price of admission. As long as STALKER 2 hangs on to the atmosphere of the originals, we're going to have a fantastic time!

[@deurikin2466]

@@dylanwight5764 so the Devs visions were grand but had to be limited? All I hope for is the Soul and heart of the first 3 Stalker games, with all the complexion and variety of stuff added in Anomaly. It would be a perfect blend and fill the world with authenticity and make it more alive.

[@dylanwight5764]

@@deurikin2466 I have no doubt that STALKER 2 will expand upon the heart and soul of the franchise to its fullest. But I also think Anomaly is the best STALKER title to date even though it's unofficial. If Anomaly had been developed by a professional studio and had released in the last five to ten years it would have been heralded as the greatest open world survival-horror experience in the industry's history. To call it merely a "mod" is a huge disservice. I hope STALKER 2 doesn't try to be Anomaly, however, as Anomaly acts as a fulfillment of a dream while STALKER 2 has so far been shown to be the reimagining of that dream. Technology has moved on a lot in the last twenty years. Game design has too. So as long as STALKER 2 feels like an adventure in the Zone, I'm going to be happy.

[@lazygenie5616]

Well the devs have already said they are aware and support anomaly, so it’s not unreasonable to believe they will take some of the things added in anomaly because of positive feedback.

[@PsycosisIncarnated]

@@dylanwight5764 i totally agree with you. purists nerds who hate on anomaly are just hating just to feel better about themselves. they probably didnt even finish any stalker game to begin with. its really ridiculous to me how someone could try out anomaly/gamma and not say ''YES THIS IS WHAT THE ZONE SHOULD BE''. I mean literally you have to be braindead to not think this. Especially gamma. it has the most addicting gaming loop i have ever played with its crafting system and slow progression, with even MORE mutants, MORE anomalies, MORE mechanics. How can you not love it? Its crazy to me.

[@raed69420]

ngl clear sky has a great replayability since you can play multiple faction wars and complete all of them

[@jarredspectre]

CS is very underrated. Devs dont take risks like GSC did with CS anymore.

[@QuangGR45]

True, although suck how much they butcher the gunplay and economy to the point it pretty much a chore to playthough *Grenade indicator flashback*

[@LuisC7]

@@QuangGR45 it's my favorite in the trilogy. Played through it several times, never had what most people say are problems.

[@belevezero2279]

I played Shadow Chernobyl when it was released in 2007, when I was in my 20s. now i’m in my 40s playing gamma and I honestly get very similar satisfaction from both. It’s about immersion and atmosphere. Whatever they release in Stalker 2, Im here for it

[@danielkelley3700]

I’m waiting for anomaly 2

[@hugoperez2993]

So you're not buying S2?!

[@schmolzz]

original soc was one of the greatest stalker experiences i had back when it was first released, and that says alot considering how much of a buggy mess it was with constant ctd and save file corruption forcing u to start over, i still have the original dvd somewhere with the buggy 1.0 version,good times. sure it might not have the same replayability or visuals as anomaly etc but it sure as hell had just as good of an atmosphere!

[@jarredspectre]

Yeah it’s the number 1 game for many fans. Hopefully GSC still has the magic sauce to do it again.

[@dontcareaboutthatok7565]

yeah it didnt have the same replayability,it had better one

[@schmolzz]

@@dontcareaboutthatok7565 idk man ,with the many different versions of anomaly + a much bigger map + the ability to play many different factions + a more fleshed out warfare mode then clearsky had + the different types of playstyle like iron man and the one where u swap stalker i think anomaly has a ton of replayability. but to each their own :^)

[@dontcareaboutthatok7565]

@@schmolzz it doesnt matter if you have a big map when the only different thing that happens when you pass it for the 100th time is having a little shootout,soc also has mods so the other anomaly mods dont matter,anomaly gets boring as soon as you finish its story wich sucks

[@schmolzz]

@@dontcareaboutthatok7565 never bothered with the main story in anomaly and i was never bored, so we clearly disagree on that ,wich is cool. and anomaly is a mod of cop wich is basically just repackeged soc so you could say anomaly is just a mod of soc to begin with.

[@OXY187]

It’s hilarious because Grok himself said in Discord that Gamma was never supposed to be Stalker. It was its own thing. And yet, people are comparing Gamma to original games, thinking it is the actual Stalker game.

[@jarredspectre]

Yep its his and his teams vision. Its arguably more popular than Stalker now. Im planning a follow up to this video.

[@Jutles]

Most of us already know this mods change around games so much it can distort from the actual feel of the game I’m pretty sure there’s not many ppl who think it’ll release like gamma

[@Chuck_vs._The_Comment_Section]

It puzzles me why STALKER mods like Anomaly, GAMMA & Co. are so popular. My fondest memories of STALKER are of part 3, because it was the most well-rounded part mechanically, because every place I visited was connected to a story, because I was only in new and larger areas, because of the fast travel system, because all the anomalies and quests were "hand-built" and because the decisions I made had an impact on the zone and on the "people" I "met" there. For example, whether I gassed the "nest" of bloodsuckers or not. If I wanted to dive into the zone again, I would therefore look for a game experience that offers something comparable. Why I should play something that's a rehash of part 1, only with more "stuff", some of which just makes the game more complicated and inaccessible instead of better, doesn't make sense to me. Even the story, from what I've heard, is supposed to be an inferior copy of part 1. Also, don't mods like this actually devalue what my alter ego has achieved in the previous games? After all, virtually everything is reset to a state from before STALKER 1.

[@almightybogza]

Stalker is about experiencing the zone. Anomaly,GAMMA,Misery and most of the other similar "hardcore" mods are NOT stalker. Having 300 million parts for guns is dumb not hard. Stalker is not EFT, its not SCUM/DAYZ. I love anomaly and I personally really enjoy EFP but any of the vanilla games just blow it out of the water for me. They are just better. Maybe if Anomaly had a good story it would be a lot better but the bloat and the shitty bloat just turn it into something that STALKER is not,never was and never should be.

[@Mastercrafter072]

Exactly why I bought and played through all the stalker games. I loved stalker anomaly, heard stalker 2 was announced and knew I should go and play the actual stalker games to get an original taste of stalker. Im so glad I did. Great games

[@KNAFHLCJPT7A8EU3]

I think stalker 2 will focus on story mode, like, the other 3 stalkers made by the original creators... not like anomaly that is something more like "just survive, explore and loot"... I like both tho, but I think the original creators prefer something with a cool lore, like shadow of chernobyl and the others

[@niksarass]

Dude, it's perfectly fine if Stalker 2 is just on Stalker 1 deepness level, what we want more than a game is a modding platform (And at this point they did promise they will focus on modability).To recreate anomaly into Stalker 2 world. Of course any modern game needs to be casual by default and please all audiences. Expecting anything like anomaly on release is delusional, it would be too long, too expensive and too risky to make such a game right of the bat.

[@jarredspectre]

I’m sure GSC has taken ideas from some of the mods out there but then again I think Stalker 2 will be closer to the vision they had for SoC but couldn’t reach it at the time

[@gamma2816]

While it absolutely won't be Gamma, the possibility of Gamma 2.0 is still possible as it will have mod support, so even if vanilla won't be that and will be more for vanilla folks like me, everyone will be happy in the end I believe. ^^

[@jarredspectre]

Im sure Grok and co will start work on a mod for S2 right away. Gamma 1.0 should be out by then. After seeing the latest trailers it does appear the game is more like gunslinger mod.

[@Peckh]

As if we would see a mod from the gamma creators. All gamma's creator did was take a bunch of other peoples work and compile it together and now acts like an authority in the Stalker community

[@gamma2816]

@@Peckh While I understand your point... Do you really not think people will make 1000 mods for this game too and then the GAMMA team will do the same? I mean all we have to do is literally wait because crazy amounts of mods for games like this are just guaranteed to happen no matter what so literally just wait. 😝👍

[@gamma2816]

@@Peckh While I understand your point... Do you really not think people will make 1000 mods for this game too and then the GAMMA team will do the same? I mean all we have to do is literally wait because crazy amounts of mods for games like this are just guaranteed to happen no matter what so literally just wait. 😝👍

[@stefos6431]

S2 will be story driven and we'll see what the modding community does

[@OXY187]

It’s so fun to casually pick up artifacts and eat bandages while being radiated in Shadow of Chernobyl. But hey, realism matters right? Said a skinny basement dweller.

[@jarredspectre]

👆

[@H8ED1]

If stalker 2 has "mixed" reviews on steam because of the delusional mod pack boys I'll be pissed. Love the games. Love the mods. And I'm excited to see what mods stalker 2 will get

[@jarredspectre]

It’s almost guaranteed to get mixed or negative reviews. It won’t matter long term though. We will carry it on our backs and create all sorts of amazing experiences with it

[@rekunta]

I’m expecting STALKER 2 to essentially be Metro Exodus 2. If the trailers are any indication, it will be a heavily cinematically driven experience, which isn’t what STALKER is or ever has been. It will be a player-centric power fantasy where the Zone will revolve around the player. It’s what modern gamers want. Unfortunately, that will make STALKER 2 far less of a game than the originals, where the Zone, not the player, was the focus. Mark my words.

[@jarredspectre]

This is a great take. I hope you are wrong though.

[@ChromieZone]

holy shit the 2023 game where they have a way bigger budget and expectations to meet has cutscenes!?1?1!?👈😱

[@gerardotejada2531]

No Metro game is a power fantasy. And Stalker was a narrative experience, all of them. There was no reason to roam the zone, that was not the intended experience. Anomaly and Gamma are not Stalker games.

[@gerardotejada2531]

When you arrive at Prypiat in Stalker 1 there is no turning back, the zone was linear, It was not an open world, you had little reason to backtrack, the same with Stalker 2, It was all about killing Strelok yada yada. The third game was more of a Sandbox but thats It. And Metro is not a power fantasy, It had an Easy difficulty in the Redux versions to apeal to western audiences but thats It

[@gerardotejada2531]

SPOILERS In the first game you were Strelok who was one of the best, if not the most legendary STALKERS to roam the zone. Thats a power fantasy, story wise. Strelok even apears in the end of the third game and is like the second coming if christ

[@stevenbong1553]

Absolutely great video discussion topic. I myself am a stalker veteran by definition. I have beat in all three games and played anomaly for well over 1000 hours. I will definitely agree with you when you say that we cannot go into stalker 2 expecting an anomaly 2, however, I have read that GSC game worlds has analyzed and played anomaly and that gave them a baseline for what the community wants from stalker 2. There is definitely high hopes for the future of this game series especially with a life 2.0 coming.

[@EagleEater-vf9ub]

Continuation of og games seems just fine

[@PsycosisIncarnated]

It might not be anomaly or gamma but they really should learn from these modpacks.

[@Neros_light]

I'm honestly hoping it'll be more like SoC. SoC to this day is my favorite

[@dataperson7067]

I could never get into RPGs until GAMMA. Im excited for Stalker 2 because it will be an amazing platfom that takes modding into account.

[@jarredspectre]

It definitely turns Stalker into an rpg. Some it doesn’t make sense to me though. Watch this space…

[@cantgameright]

Oi great video :D I think this is a message worth spreading!

[@Yakushi0Mikatsu]

You're on point, people should not expect that because they might set themselves up for disappointment, nothing against anomaly or gamma, but the og stalker experience is so different to everything in the industry. That's why the trailers worry me tho, stalker isn't a shooter, a survival horror nor is it an rpg, its perfect mixture of all of them, its gunplay feels like a conventional action packed shooter for how mobile and active you have to be when in firefights and the aggresive AI, but the guns aren't precise enough nor do your character move as freely, your hunger and bleeding is importamt but with just a few consumables you completely negate the effects (gameplaywise) of hunger, and with certain artifacts you can completely forget about bleeding, and the rpg part is obvious, the artifacts and gear play a huge part on gameplay, but there are no stats to be trained or levels to gain. Everything is perfectly balanced to cater a specific section in the industry that simply does not get attention, the balance is almost perfect. On top of all that, we have the most effective and enthraling atmosphere I have ever experienced. That being said, if they add too much of conventional gunplay and mechanics, i'd probably enjoy it still, what's most important to me about the new realease, is that they manage to replicate the atmosphere. If they add too much of conventional gunplay and mechanics, i'd probably enjoy it still, but it just wont be stalker.

[@skitkjell85]

People who have only played Anomaly and GAMMA WILL be disappointed. STALKER 2 will most likely have a sequel to the mods though. That's almost guaranteed. Especially with the modding support the devs have announced :) I played the 3 originals A LOT back in the day and I'm looking forward to it. I kind of know what to expect. People who have only played Anomaly and GAMMA owe it to themselves to play the trilogy before going into STALKER 2. They really are missing out.

[@jarredspectre]

You have given me an idea. Thanks

[@trige000]

STALKER is STALKER regardless of the mods.

[@latewizard301]

On the thing about "not having to eat or drink" you actually do have to eat, vanilla stalker has a hunger system. At least SoC, i don't remember if CS or CoP has it but i bet they do.

[@jarredspectre]

You can eat and drink to heal but there’s no hunger system

[@latewizard301]

@@jarredspectre kzbin.info/www/bejne/mIPSnYF9ftqCi8U

[@Freedomer3]

​@@jarredspectre actually there is If there's a fork and spoon logo pop up It means you're hungry

[@Darkdiver28]

Indeed. Stalker 2 will not be anomaly the sequel. But, judging from the last trailer, eat and drink seems to play a role in surviving, so there seems that anomaly/gamma has perhaps influenced Stalker 2. Even though anomaly was not made by the original devs, they should at least consider implementing some mechanics as they greatly improve and immerse you in the game.

[@maki1532]

Actually, I find a lot of stuff annoying from gamma, so I hope stalker 2 will be like the original 3 games

[@dededede9257]

In the original stalker you have already the eat system except for water

[@Freedomer3]

You do realize eat and drink was thing before anomaly and gamma right?

[@danielmaster911ify]

But will it be like the original trio, or will it feel its own?

[@jarredspectre]

I think it’s going to feel very familiar but new at the same time.

[@latewizard301]

THANK YOU! i feel like so many will expect something like Anomaly with STALKER 2, but i feel it will just be like upgraded CoP which is probably the greatest in the series (for me) Anomaly isn't a bad way to play stalker, if you like a more tactical survival shooter then Anomaly is for you. But the original Stalker games are so far removed, they feel more like a horror rpg.

[@sahfirprimed8960]

The game is going to be highly modable though. We may not get gamma or anomaly right out of the gate but we will have mods to make the game how you’d possible want it.

[@sahfirprimed8960]

Yes I know modable isn’t a word.

[@frostwolfe4982]

Im new too stalker, played the originals vanilla and modded, now trying to play all mods before anomaly so far loving it all. Playing OLR Vector of Alienation atm, little buggy here and there, but I love visual appeal, and so far it does seem more in depth than release version, but some things in small detail are better in Shoc still. Ima try out fotograph next probably.

[@Revilionwar]

I think they will include a lot of anomaly/gamma elements in the new stalker cuz they are just enhancing the zone experience as a whole, even gsc have said multiple times how many ideas they had to leave behine cuz they couldnt continue them (over ambition). anomaly and gamma are in a way the desire to keep expanding the life in THE ZONE and making it more and more real, which aline with the true GSC vision.

[@jarredspectre]

Maybe, I guess we will find out. I think there will be a survival difficulty but I think it will be restricted to one character from one faction.

[@ronaldbenz_]

I started with shadow of chernobyl and then I played Anomaly (without any other mods) and goddamn, it's a completely different game.

[@jarredspectre]

Try a mod called OGSR . I think you will like it.

[@Disphoria_]

deadass I saw this video of some dudes trying this new shoc co op mod and 99% of comments were just asking if it works with gamma no one appreciates the original trilogy anymore and theyre arguably way better than any modded experience smh my head g

[@jarredspectre]

I like Gamma dont get me wrong but it is largely just a broken gun sim. I prefer a good story myself.

[@Disphoria_]

Dont get me wrong grok is pretty talented and his modpack isnt bad, but its just that people think thats what stalker is, they dont appreciate the original games. To each their own and all that but people need to give the og games the respect they deserve

[@kovar2344]

Its so hard to find anyone with sensible opinion like you. My logical conclusion, i made years ago, is that the vanilla game will be too "easy", not empty/vast enough, lacking weapon/playstyle diversity and possibly too far fetched storywise. And at the same time too cumbersome to be modded. Leaving it in a awkward state where the community wont be able to improve it. Basically anti everything that Anomaly is. I would love to be wrong. (btw i played the original stalker games back in the day)

[@jarredspectre]

I think being on Unreal 5 it won’t be too hard to mod. People can start practicing now so when the sdk is released there are already familiar with the engine. But on the other hand yes it will be very complex compared to the originals so complete overhauls will be years away.

[@Gripcage4392]

What I expect - and want - STALKER 2 to be in terms of theme is to be about exploring the Zone and uncover it's secrets and mysteries, which is exactly what the original trilogy was about - all the secrets, the experiments that were going on, the underground labs, what lies in the center of the Zone. This is kinda why I don't really care about Anomaly and all the COC-based freeplay mods. Yes, they are great at what they aim to do and I tend to play them from time to time, but me personally, I am looking for a strong story based experience with a good narrative. Which is why in terms of mods, I look forwards towards stuff like True Stalker, New Project or similar mods which focus more on telling a story.

[@blooocki]

My biggest hope about S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 is that it will still be balanced around master difficulty and then the lower difficulties I loved playing all the S.T.A.L.K.E.R.s and OGSR on master

[@bringerd1936]

your right its hurts but your right.

[@kacpernap2863]

honestly, yeah your right sure, stalker anomaly and gamma are great modpacks for making life in the zone more unique and great, but stalker anomaly is a free expansion pack, not a game in the trilogy, just a very good expansion pack

[@boardante8454]

the people who played the 3 games: no shit it wont

[@jarredspectre]

Yep pretty much

[@boardante8454]

@@jarredspectre yea great vid bro

[@KnottyKnights]

Even the devs say anomaly is more like the game the wish they could have created... so.... I would expect some of the elements to be present. I have played these games for 11 years now and GAMMA makes a better more realistic world as the devs ADMIT they wanted. You actually need to use the repair system that was coded into the first game but unused due to time and budget cuts. You actually NEED stashes in GAMMA to progress. You can skip these in the vanilla games as getting money and weapons is too easy.

[@jarredspectre]

That’s funny because I have heard quite the opposite from members of the dev team. Anomaly and it’s massive mod package GAMMA are great but focus on free play rather than story. I enjoy realism and hardcore survival games but Stalker has never been that. Stalker 2 won’t be that either, at least not at first. Have you tried narodnaya solyanka 2023? Its pretty amazing and is a cut above Gamma in terms of gameplay and visuals

[@Freedomer3]

​@@jarredspectre yeah same I've also heard the exact opposite

[@LowSkillSurvival]

GSC fucked up with Cossacks 3, so really I have no hope for Stalker 2. GSC has lost their mojo, so to speak. I completely expect Stalker 2 to be some linear Metro 2033 like game with the usual modern crap shoved into it. I'll play SoC and Gamma till I die, thank you.

[@jarredspectre]

I guess we will see. As long as it a good platform for creating new mods and content then I wont be too upset if the game itself is a flop.

[@OperatorMax1993]

Thank you for this video, as both a OG Stalker and Anomaly player, it kind of infuriates me how Gamma has like warped the original identity of Stalker and what it is I absolutely can't stand the "ultra hardcore immersive and realistic" mods with the whole "the game is meant to be punishing :/" After trying to play Anomaly "the way it's meant to be played", I just gave up and installed plenty of QoL mods that make it more bearable while modifying the game (player damage, enemy accuracy, weapon and armor condition on drop, outrageous prices turned to reasonable ones, making repair or crafting less convoluted and confusing, etc.) From the trailers of Stalker 2, I am just happy that GSC is making Stalker 2 the WAY they wanted, and not to appease some grok fanboys (and also glad I grew out of my Anomaly defender phase)

[@jarredspectre]

I’m a fan of the originals, anomaly and Gamma myself. I’m worried Stalker 2 will get review bombed because it doesn’t meet expectations from all parties.

[@OperatorMax1993]

@@jarredspectre yeah, I'm concerned about that too

[@pepefrog7456]

the base game is far to easy. gamma on hard and survivalist mode is the perfect experience. difficult as all hell but truly a glimpse for what it would be like. skill issue

[@Freedomer3]

​@@pepefrog7456 play on master

[@HEKTIKx]

Anomaly is not stalker yet gsc has said stalker 2 will have full mod support so we can enjoys stalker 2 until Anomaly/gamma 2 is ready

[@thedootslayer7926]

How did you get gamma to run so well with that much grass at the beginning?

[@jarredspectre]

I followed the guide under faq on the discord. Keep in mind too that I play in 1080p and record in 4K.

[@Buksna420]

Dont get your hopes up like all the new remakes and similar Stalker 2 wont be even close to Gamma,EFP, and such.

[@jarredspectre]

That’s the point of the video. Stalker 2 will be a sequel to the original games and people shouldn’t expect all the features that the mods bring. It will be a new story on a bigger map that’s it.

[@fr_00alph]

I understand the feeling. I'm one of the many that discovered anomaly before playing the originals, wich i did so i can at least compare. I hope Stalker 2 will please as much people as possible, but part of me believes that most of the people that want an experience similar to the trilogy might have too much nostalgia. Sure, i don't want stalker to turn into a tarkov like game, i would hate that, but i don't think the game should be too similar to the trilogy gameplay mechanic wise. it's been a decade, what's possible and fun in a videogame changed and i really truely believe, as someone who doesnt have any nostalgia, that the original games lack features. They're insane ambiance wise, but don't have much replayability / things to do in. Let's wait to see the final product and judge from there. I hope it'll at least keep its original atmosphere

[@thecatwhisperer2820]

One thing I am sure of is that STALKER 2 will probably have some features from Anomaly. It would be pretty dumb to not look at the biggest and most popular Stalker mod/fan game and not find some features that would fit into the stalker 2 game. I can think of a couple. Like the 3D PDA, some kind of crafting system, and some of the mutants that got unused in the OG games that are in Anomaly. After saying that though, the video is still right. Stalker 2 will be nothing like Anomaly really. Anomaly is a sandbox survival fps set in the stalker universe. The og stalker games are more along the lines of rpg fps. It'll still be great and an amazing story continuation, but I would be pretty upset if they tried to copy Anomaly.

[@someoneouthere4995]

I hope not because anomaly and gamma are not stalker games

[@gerardotejada2531]

If Stalker 2 is as easy to mod as Call of Prypiat then we could have Anomaly 2. So a Call of Prypiat 2.0 with a larger Shadow of Chernobyl map is all we need.

[@jarredspectre]

It’s going to have a map slightly larger than all 3 previous games combined. I would say a survival mod will come pretty fast post launch but as for Anomaly 2, that will be a long time if at all.

[@Freedomer3]

​@@jarredspectre the map will be 64KM It's huge

[@kaizenK1]

U just earned a sub bro not only cuz i played all the original games modded vanilla /in order this Little adventure with stalker begun when i were 8-10 yrs when i were scared to DEATH by bloodsuckers And now playing theses games over and over to keep my childhood memories back but when my gpu burned form a fucking electical shit i cant play gamma or efp or other i play these lil 3 games for bringing back Something from my lil me

[@jarredspectre]

I love this comment. When I was 10 years old I was playing Street Fighter 2 in the arcades, games like Stalker were a pipe dream.

[@d4dado]

I haven't played the first three games and only have experienced Anomaly, but I don't assume Stalker 2 will be the same as Anomaly. It's like saying Mobile legends is a sequel to Dota 2 or something.

[@jarredspectre]

Well I highly recommend you play the original games or some of the amazing mods for them. Anomaly is good but it’s not the best mod available visually and gameplay wise.

[@d4dado]

@@jarredspectre I will when I get enough money. My job isn't as stable I'm afraid.

[@jarredspectre]

@@d4dado Good news if you don’t mind playing a modded version of the first game Shadow of Chernobyl. There’s Autumn Aurora or OGSR. Both are stand alone and free. If you want links just ask.

[@d4dado]

@@jarredspectre By all means! I would love to!

[@jarredspectre]

@@d4dado Heres the discord for OGSR discord.gg/Q6QDxbNcfR all the instructions and links are on there. It’s basically Shadow of Chernobyl remastered with graphics and animations similar to Anomaly. If you want more then there’s the C con discord which is a Stalker mod sharing group, it has everything you could ever want discord.gg/gyMdq3a

[@NakedAvanger]

I never played the OG's i only played anomaly and now gamma (literally just died in an ironman run...again...) And i have no intentions to play the OG's either because i saw the awful gunplay however i cant wait for stalker 2 and to see how the devs are going to shape it all i want is that they take maybe some inspiration from the mods? because some ideas are quite good imo, like the binocular, knife/pistol slots, etc obviously since they're realeasing mod tools too we'll have an amazing time once the modding teams get their talented hands on it

[@cantgameright]

Oi, just mod the guns buddy. Nothing wrong with modding the OGs to be more playable today, but there might be something wrong with you missing out on the trilogy. Why not give Call of Pripyat with Gunslinger a go? It plays better than Anomaly and any of its derivatives IMO :D

[@jarredspectre]

I highly recommend you play the originals. Try OGSR mod for the first game and see if you like it. Its basically Shadow of Chernobyl using the same base engine as anomaly with mods. You can even add mods from anomaly if you want. At least you will get to experience the story first hand. Heres a link to their Discord if interested, insatll instructions are on there discord.gg/Q6QDxbNcfR

[@Freedomer3]

"Binocular, knife/pistol slots" Binoculars and a knife are a thing in the OG games Pistol slot is also in one of the OG games (stalker call of pripyat my personal favorite) Even with the bad gunplay The OG games are still amazing

[@hhh3619]

Just wait to stalker 2 mods

[@jarredspectre]

Yes there will be lots of minor mods early on but larger ones will be years away.

[@lancelotdubois7694]

And you think Stalker 2 will resemble the first three games ? It's been over a decade, Stalker 2 will be radically different, more in tune with GAMMA

[@jarredspectre]

Stalker 2 like the original games will be based around a story, it will be open world with side quests but very linear with the character you play. GAMMA is based around open ended gameplay, is non linear with your character and has a pretty weak story.

[@lancelotdubois7694]

@@jarredspectre The differences in gameplay are gonna be unfathomable, of course it will have a story; BUT the gameplay of Stalker 2 will relate more with GAMMA simply because GAMMA is more recent !

[@jarredspectre]

It will play like a new game because its on Unreal 5. GAMMA on the other hand is on an old engine that is highly modded and most importantly isnt made by GSC. Its a mod made by fans to resemble a modern game using Stalker assets. Im glad you like GAMMA and I do too. The point of this video was to let people know that GAMMA and anomaly arent part of the Stalker cannon and that the original games are worth playing before Stalker 2 releases. @@lancelotdubois7694

[@lancelotdubois7694]

@@jarredspectre You said it yourself GAMMA ressembles a mordern game, Stalker 2 will be a modern game, thats all man !

[@jarredspectre]

@@lancelotdubois7694 I suggest you go play the originals if you havent already. Theres modding guides on my channel if you are interested.

[@BuzzingGoober]

Not sure why anyone expects it to be like any of the OG stalker games OR anomaly. The devs have been MIA for a decade. I wouldn't doubt it's simply vaporware. Furthermore, the OG stalkers released during a golden age of modern PC gaming when everything being released wasn't forcibly pozzed.

[@jarredspectre]

I agree with the very end of this statement

[@panzerabteilung]

English is not my main laguage, but hope to make a clear explanation. I do not agree with almost any of your points, Anomaly, gamma etc... are real STALKER experiences and i will tell you why: -yes, i played the original seres, and they were very inmersive, but after finishing them, i wanted a little more, they didnt have so much replayability. They were too easy, and not fairly balanced between early and end game, they felt more easy in the end game than at first, almost no enemy respawns etc...(i remember loving the outskirts map) but not finding there more than 3 mercs and 1 quimera in the hospital after finishing the story, that was al the enemy respawn there. -The second point of my argument is the state of the game industry, S.T.A.L.K.E.R its completly outdated, not in a bad sense, but the survival games has evolved, nowadays the crafting is the core of every survival game, if u tell me stalker is not a survival game, ill disagree with you, STALKER had many survival elements, but they had no time to implement those elements corretly, for example, u will never have problems to buy ammo, medkits ..etc... So its clear that the intention was there , but they failed in the way they implemented it, and the elements of a survival game werent still settled. Now, videogame companies have to adapt to what market wants. Crafting survivals have now all those elements settled, if this kind of game is what people look for, they have to make this way. For me, Anomaly...gamma, are probably the kind of game that GSC would have done in 2007 if they had time to do it, and the bases of survival videogames would have been settled, for me, its pure STALKER gameplay but with today standars. -And finally, but maybe most important, GUNPLAY! the gunplay of GAMMA its 1 million times better of any original series. Even sharing many of the addons like B&S, gamma has some camera effects, or something in it which makes the recoil even better than EFP o other modpacks

[@jarredspectre]

Thanks for the well thought out comment.I appreciate it. The point of this video was to help people keep their expectations for Stalker 2 in check. The originals were not survival games and yes I agree that many gamers enjoy a bit of Survival in games. However I don’t think GSC will be radically changing the Formula because of trends. That being said Stalker 2 does appear to be very westernised which is in line with how Ukraine has changed since the originals were released. I guess we will see over this year what direction the game will take. Either way I’m looking forward to it.

[@Freedomer3]

Idk what difficulty are you playing But it is definitely not easy lol and yes stalker is a survival game But the survival was from how hard the enemies, anomalies,environment, and etc. not the elements like hunger and such Those are just some extra feature Stalker is not a survival hardcore shooter. Also stalker 2 will not be anything like gamma or even anomaly period

[@Freedomer3]

Although stalker 2 will include more survival elements with its effects on the character It's still not hardcore like Anomaly/Gamma. I agree with the gunplay tho

[@jansvoboda4293]

It was quite clear from the trailer, that it will be no Gamma. I might wait for the mods to be available. I played the original first stalker game and enjoyed it that time, but GAMMA is the way for me.

[@drmilkcow]

I don’t think anyone is expecting it to be like gamma or anomaly at release. But with UE5 and official mod tools the game WILL be exactly like anomaly a few months after release.

[@jarredspectre]

Anomaly took nearly 10 years to make. There will be something similar for S2 but not for a while.

[@dededede9257]

​@@jarredspectreespecially given the computer power require that the vanilla game will require before any modding

[@dededede9257]

And think Anomaly on original will still be active for a moment and we need to see if GSC really make the modding open for Stalker 2

[@memestogo7318]

Tho I have this same mistaken expectations as I'm a anomaly to gamma player. I've come to terms that it stalker 2 won't be like anomaly. BUT everytime I play gamma I pray silently God dam if this mod had coop. Imagine the fun id be able to have with just one other guy. It pains me. After that I chug some vodka and run into a anomaly field to get a questionable bread to eat

[@jarredspectre]

Unfortunately there won’t be coop in Stalker 2.

[@memestogo7318]

@@jarredspectre :(

[@jarredspectre]

@@memestogo7318 Yeah I know, the multiplayer will be traditional tdm. Apparently the devs think that coop will not give the traditional Stalker Experience of being alone in the zone. I think it would be great personally, even if it was a new game plus feature or an end game feature once you finish the story solo

[@locolocomal]

But is moddable 😃

[@AndroidFerret]

Sadly not

[@jarredspectre]

One day there will be Anomaly 2 on Stalker 2 engine

[@Sh0ckV]

yeah

[@jarredspectre]

Yeah yeah

[@consciousrat1416]

I mean if Stalker 2 isn't like Anomaly at all, that will be disappointing. I expect a more sandbox, survival experience with story bits tied together through a cohesive narrative that can change based on your choices and playing style.

[@jarredspectre]

That would be great but I’m trying to keep my expectations in check. I’m expecting a slight bigger Zone that what we currently have but seamless with no loading screens and a story similar to the Metro games. That’s it, nothing complicated or revolutionary.

[@consciousrat1416]

@Spectakil Probably true, but I like to imagine as well

[@luisrosraio9108]

This kinda feels like a strawman, I dont think there is a large group of people who are like "Yeah, this standalone modpack is basically vanilla so the next game will be like that", im sure there are people who think that, but not enough to justify a video. But maybe I am wrong since people like drewski have conflated anomaly with base game stalker before, but I dont think anyone thinks stalker 2 will be like anomaly, but seeing a anomaly 2 on the updated engine would be cool though, though it probably wont be free this time, as i doubt they would just basically give there game away this time.

[@jarredspectre]

I read comments about this daily and get asked about it a lot. Anomaly and Gamma are so popular that many people think they are canon and made by GSC. The story of this video is to help people keep their expectations for Stalker 2 in check. I hope you enjoyed it and thank you for the comment, much appreciated.

[@MGoogle3146]

mate dw my expectations of stalker 2 are super low, since it was confirmed that Microsoft got its grubby claws into it and it'll now include d i v e r s i t y woooo yay

[@jarredspectre]

Microsoft doesn’t have any creative control over Stalker 2, they aren’t even the majority investor. All reports that say otherwise are false. The Xbox console exclusivity is only for 3 months.

[@KEPSAGAMER]

Weirdo gaming elitist propaganda... this cheeki breeki shall no longer be ivdamke

[@jarredspectre]

Did you watch the video?

[@monkey-ql6st]

yea it will be worse than anomaly

[@jarredspectre]

I think it’s going to surprise a lot of people. They have the time and money to make the game how they want this time.

[@sigmaoperator1688]

@@jarredspectre I'm hoping they have learned how well received and replayed stalker anomaly is compared to the original stalker games, I'm not dissing them or anything I'm just saying, anomaly is WAY more replayable. Anyway, they are a good company and the trailer looks epic. Cant wait.

[@sterlingarcher857]

Im more concerned that stalker 2 is nothing like stalker. I'm afraid that the trailer is giving me too much of the console generation vibe, the cutscenes give me full on dying light vibes. I also can no longer hear anything stalker in English voices. Stalker is my most favourite game ever, been there since the beginning, way back before 2007...... If I'm honest....I'm not holding my breath for 2 but I will certainly accept I'm wrong if the game actually delivers.

[@AdolfHitler-lk4vo]

to me gameplay looked like cod, the movement looks like it and ur screen is just covered in red goo when u get hit and u just use some pseudo stimpak to regain hp, ppl are expecting more tactical/realistic fps and will be letdown

[@jarredspectre]

Well that is the issue. Stalker has never been tactical/realistic but the popular mods make it so in peoples minds

[@jarredspectre]

Yes it concerns me too. I just hope they don’t dumb everything down like FarCry where you have markers and flashing indicators to guide your every step. They need to find a sweet spot where it appeals to a larger audience but retains its soul.

[@AdolfHitler-lk4vo]

@@jarredspectre but it was also never cod like, lets face it the og games are just pretty aged and the gunplay and overall gameplay probably isnt what the devs really wante to make if they had more budget, experience etc

[@jarredspectre]

@@AdolfHitler-lk4vo I appreciate the comments but if you want to hang out here that name is going to have to change. Its not really funny.

[@notaplasticexistence]

To be honest I'll just be shocked if it's good.

[@jarredspectre]

I honestly think they should get a third party to remaster the original games to give themselves more time.