Stanford White's Dark Secrets Revealed: Exploring the Hidden Shadows of a Gilded Age Masterpiece

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@janedee6488
@janedee6488 Жыл бұрын
Stanford White’s mustache needs its own zip code
@luannkessler7228
@luannkessler7228 Жыл бұрын
😂🤣😂🤣
@FLPLASTICSURG1
@FLPLASTICSURG1 Жыл бұрын
Or maybe it’s own area code😂
@divox9pqr
@divox9pqr Жыл бұрын
Wasn’t it great…Wonder what Mrs White thought about it?
@danielkoher1944
@danielkoher1944 Жыл бұрын
WOOOOOOOOO!!!🥳 Walrustache!
@rosezingleman5007
@rosezingleman5007 Жыл бұрын
His hands actually did, so to speak, where he carried on his extra marital affairs.
@kmk2451
@kmk2451 Жыл бұрын
I am familiar with the Evelyn Nesbit story (Girl on the Red Velvet Swing - both a book and a movie starring Joan Collins) and the Stanford White murder committed by Harry Thaw. I was surprised, however, to see several new photos of Evelyn especially and the lavish or even garish interior of White’s home. It is a well done video. Thanks for posting.
@Johnny_01-f7b
@Johnny_01-f7b Жыл бұрын
I worked around the corner from Gramercy park for years. I took many lunch time walks around the park. Never realized White lived there. Informative, engaging documentary. Thanks.
@garywait3231
@garywait3231 Жыл бұрын
As an American cultural historian, I was quite familiar with the sordid details of White's career and assassination and what came out in its wake. But I had never seen interior views of his home -- as pretentious as he was. So thanks for this episode which broadened my knowledge of this overblown period of our social history.
@lamoinette23
@lamoinette23 10 ай бұрын
Pretentious as viewed by the modern eye. It was sophisticated splendor befitting a talented artist and architect who at least earned his money and appreciation as an artist. His private life not withstanding.. he was not the only man at this day and age to prey upon young impoverished women.. All of the powerful, wealthy men did, and had done for centuries. Samuel Pepys, the 17th century english diarist, writes often of trying to seduce young women, especially actresses, he even wrote those entries in a code (latin) so as to keep them secret, and describes one attempt to seduce a young actress where she defends herself by stabbing him with a sharpened hair pin. We are shocked by the behavior (somewhat) but it happened over and over again by the abuse of power wealthy men had. And yes, this late gilded age/end of Victorian era style is harsh to our eyes, but again.. it was the height of sophistication of it's day, modeled after the great and powerful english upper classes who traveled to Rome, Greece and (modern day) Croatia and Turkey on their grand tours.
@charlescrawford7039
@charlescrawford7039 Жыл бұрын
Clip 4:02 On the fireplace mantel, you can just see a model of the statue of Diana by sculptor Augustus Saint-Gaudens. The full-size guilt copper statue was on top of the Madison Square Garden’s tower designed by McKim, Mead & White. It was at the time considered a bit of risqué piece and didn’t meet the approval of many New Yorkers. The second smaller version of tower's statue that replaced the original now resides at the Philadelphia Museum of Art.
@horaciomillan4181
@horaciomillan4181 Жыл бұрын
Isn’t there another at the met?
@charlescrawford7039
@charlescrawford7039 Жыл бұрын
Yes, there is. I’ve seen both. My understanding is the one in Philadelphia was placed on top of the Madison Square Garden tower.
@jamesdugan3079
@jamesdugan3079 Жыл бұрын
I remember the movie. Joan Collins played Evelyn Nesbit. Supposedly he had a swing in skylight room, and he would push her to the top. What a story. Fascinating to see the actual rooms. Thanks Ken.
@creativo4ever564
@creativo4ever564 Жыл бұрын
This story was also used in the movie Ragtime with Evelyn Nesbit played by the actress who played the Countess of Grantham in Downton Abbey, Elizabeth McGovern.....I think it was her first big acting credit.
@rbsmith3365
@rbsmith3365 Жыл бұрын
Grandma Evelyn passed in 1967.
@robertmchugh2248
@robertmchugh2248 Жыл бұрын
The swing was actually in a building on the roof of a Studio of Augustus St. Gaudens. It was on 24th st..Broadway toSixth Ave..Not far from the old Madison Square Garden
@jamesdugan3079
@jamesdugan3079 Жыл бұрын
@@robertmchugh2248 Thanks for the correct info, so fascinating.
@stevevice9863
@stevevice9863 Жыл бұрын
Stanford White's great granddaughter, Suzannah Lessard, wrote a book called, "The Architect of Desire: Beauty and Danger in the Stanford White Family". It is an interesting book written from the point of view of a descendant of White on the shame he brought on the family and how it has filtered down through the generations. White was a gifted Architect, but his carnal appetite took over his life.
@lisareed5669
@lisareed5669 Жыл бұрын
Very good book.
@kissingcandy1
@kissingcandy1 Жыл бұрын
Just looking that up. Sounds fascinating
@here_we_go_again2571
@here_we_go_again2571 Жыл бұрын
>"carnal appetite took over his life"< Sounds like JFK, RFK, Bill Clinton and a few other politicians. If the Kennedy brothers hadn't been killed there would have been a big scandal, eventually. If that car accident with Ted/Ed Kennedy (where that girl drowned in his car) han't happened in the Hyannis Port area, I doubt if it could have been hushed up. Also -- Clinton's problems followed him from Arkansas. I am surprised that he got elected.
@michaelgardner-vn6kn
@michaelgardner-vn6kn Жыл бұрын
Just the kind of book I enjoy reading. Thanks!
@MummyBrown
@MummyBrown Жыл бұрын
Very interesting. His indiscretions are literally the only reason I knew his name.
@bt4582
@bt4582 Жыл бұрын
It was not mentioned in this video but when Harry Thaw got out of the hospital, he ended up getting arrested again for nearly whipping a 19 yr old boy to death. He was very scary and had done the same thing to his ex wife in the past. Although Stanford White did do many things wrong IMO, the part of the story that was not told was that Evelyn Nesbitt ended up confessing later that Stanford was the love of her life and Harry Thaw's family made her say many things on the stand.
@bscottb8
@bscottb8 Жыл бұрын
Thaw was a creep who resented White's stature in society and blamed him for being blackballed from a club. Character assassination of the architect was Thaw's defense strategy.
@here_we_go_again2571
@here_we_go_again2571 Жыл бұрын
Stanford White liked 'em young. I am surprised that he didn't run afoul of other men (fathers, brothers, etc.)
@ilahildasissac1943
@ilahildasissac1943 Жыл бұрын
I am sure many fathers and brothers were glad he died sadly.
@ilahildasissac1943
@ilahildasissac1943 Жыл бұрын
I read that they promised her a fortune if she fibbed about her relationship. In one video, it mentioned to make ends meet, she and her mom both worked in retail at one time. I am guessing modeling paid more. I read once she was once a Gibson girl. I think she was a Coca Cola model as well.
@ilahildasissac1943
@ilahildasissac1943 Жыл бұрын
Harry use to also use money as cigarettes. He was a very disturbed man. But he also helped an Italian American teen with legal fees with she killed her abusive uncle in the 20's.
@roystrickland3363
@roystrickland3363 Жыл бұрын
Of interest is the story of Gramercy Park and its change over time. Your history shows it wasn't a consistent upper-class district where the houses were each limited to one family and its servants, as was originally intended, but over time also had rooming houses, college clubs (not just Princeton's, but Columbia's), and a Y. After years as a backwater, it's recently re-emerged as one of the most expensive areas in Manhattan.
@LJB103
@LJB103 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget The Players (club).
@tugglemiles2991
@tugglemiles2991 Жыл бұрын
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@Mark723
@Mark723 Жыл бұрын
The brilliant 1981 movie Ragtime has one of its story lines based on the murder of Stanford White and trial of Harry Thaw, which may be of interest to those who found your excellently crafted video informative.
@Johnny_01-f7b
@Johnny_01-f7b Жыл бұрын
Yes, the murder scene in Ragtime is riveting!
@claydobbins9342
@claydobbins9342 Жыл бұрын
You folks remember the movie "Ragtime", with Howard Rollins ("In The Heat Of The Night") and the last theatrical performance of James Cagney, you are telling your age. I don't think any young whipper snapper know anything about this movie. Because of the main subject, topic, theme of the production, I researched Stanford White the very next day (1981). It authenticated Howard Rollins' character's frustration.
@gy2gy246
@gy2gy246 10 ай бұрын
@@claydobbins9342 I'm showing my age, 77, and I've also seen "The Girl on the Red Velvet Swing," another telling of White's story in 1955.
@chachyesmeralda18
@chachyesmeralda18 5 ай бұрын
I saw the movie "Ragtime" when it came out (the music still gives me chills). Agree with everything you mentioned. Seeing it certainly got me interested in ragtime music, Stanford White, and everything Harlem Renaissance. Rabbit holes... I wish I could see it again. (James Cagney & Howard Rollins were remarkable.) It seems like there's a version with the wonderful Audra McDonald and Brian Mitchell Stokes. Is it available for streaming or purchase on DVD or CD even?
@donnamuller6460
@donnamuller6460 Жыл бұрын
Every time a house comes up that I want to tour, I learn it’s been torn down. What a shame. My own house in PA is more than 300 years old; I have more than 21 copies of different deeds going back to when it sold for 100 pounds.
@andreawilliams2095
@andreawilliams2095 Ай бұрын
Cool
@SpanishEclectic
@SpanishEclectic Жыл бұрын
He needed a license for that mustache!! I was aware of the story (as mentioned below); it was part of the plot of the film Ragtime. Actress Elizabeth McGovern, which most will recognize as Lady Cora Grantham from Downton Abbey, played Evelyn Nesbitt in one of her early roles. White had certainly built himself a house of cards, which had he lived would still have (in my opinion) resulted in scandal. I love your choice to avoid censorship or other trouble with KZbin by quoting Mark Twain!
@rbsmith3365
@rbsmith3365 Жыл бұрын
He was red headed.
@RogueWave2030
@RogueWave2030 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating. I knew about the Evelyn Nesbitt/ Harry K. Thaw aspect of it. I didn't know that Stanford White had taken advantage of other very young ladies, no surprise there. Even though I read about the story, I didn't realize that he left his wife in massive debt. I love the antique instruments in the music room.
@vincentgoupil180
@vincentgoupil180 Жыл бұрын
Ever consider Stanford White faked his death to avoid paying his debts ? According to this video Mrs. White only repaid 10% of the debt. That's a 90% profit.
@LJB103
@LJB103 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. White: magnificent architect, rather horrible person. Obviously, the women who thought of Harry Thaw as a protector of them didn't know about his sadistic treatment of (at the least) his wife.
@marial8235
@marial8235 Жыл бұрын
His wife and later the naked boy he brutally beat.😮
@vincentgoupil180
@vincentgoupil180 Жыл бұрын
Probably Thaw was gay using Nesbit as his beard.
@marial8235
@marial8235 Жыл бұрын
@@vincentgoupil180 Thaw seems to have been bisexual and a sadist. On top of being crazy.
@sherirunnels545
@sherirunnels545 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely fascinating. Thank you.
@tudorjason
@tudorjason Жыл бұрын
It would be a dream to travel to Europe to study ancient architecture and then begin a prominent career designing homes for the wealthy!
@keetahbrough
@keetahbrough Жыл бұрын
you wouldn't want to build a home for yourself.. and the family you might want, one day? It might be meaningful if you asked yourself why.
@newtexan1
@newtexan1 Жыл бұрын
These homes were hideous
@pamelamcfadden337
@pamelamcfadden337 Жыл бұрын
I worked many years at the Stanford White designed The International Tennis Hall of Fame in Newport Rhode Island Absolutely beautiful.
@jamesraymond1158
@jamesraymond1158 Жыл бұрын
My great great grandfather, Dr. Graeme M. Hammond, was one of the three defense expert “alienist” witnesses in Thaw's 1907 trial. Hammond was well known in NY social circles and had a successful practice. His home had the same gilded age cluttered style as White's, which today looks hideous.
@johnwollschlager9827
@johnwollschlager9827 11 ай бұрын
So your ancestor and S. White had the same taste - more than 100 years ago. Think what your descendants will say about your taste 100 years from now.
@jamesraymond1158
@jamesraymond1158 11 ай бұрын
funny comment and good point.@@johnwollschlager9827
@bar10ml44
@bar10ml44 Жыл бұрын
Very enlightening. I’m wondering if The Gilded Age dares to go into this in future episodes.
@DavidMolina-jq7im
@DavidMolina-jq7im 13 күн бұрын
Every room was incredible. Stanford White was amazing Architect. It is unfortunate that his secret life was a disaster.The video was well put together.
@chachyesmeralda18
@chachyesmeralda18 5 ай бұрын
Another informative & well-produced look at a historic figure & home. Saw somebody else's video about White's Long Island (?) getaway - not half as detailed as this video, just pretty pictures. Thank you so much for your time and effort 👍🏼
@carolcaruso6641
@carolcaruso6641 Жыл бұрын
Love NYC and Gramercy Park. Fascinating to learn the details of one of rhe houses built in that area. So well done!
@davidwall951
@davidwall951 Жыл бұрын
He may have even gotten his own antiques as kickback “gifts” from the vendors for his clients jobs. 😂
@vincentgoupil180
@vincentgoupil180 Жыл бұрын
Stanford White pillaged European houses of their interiors and more for pennies on the dollars then sold them for a profit to his clients. So, probably what the video shows is a storefront for his interior design business. Hence the cluttered look.
@PSPguy2
@PSPguy2 Жыл бұрын
I'm thinking a series for Ken's channel, Houses of Scandal or maybe Scandalous Houses.
@seameology
@seameology Жыл бұрын
Nah. It seems they all have a scandal involved.
@rosezingleman5007
@rosezingleman5007 Жыл бұрын
Evelyn Nesbitt (and her mother) were not exactly totally innocent either, not that White wasn’t monstrous. But she had been posing nearly nude for many artists for several years already and she was a popular model. Plus her mother was pre-occupied and seemed to think artists were above that sort of thing. Bad stuff all around, and it’s true that White, uh, stole her innocence but it was prior to her marriage to Thaw. Thaw was resentful of New Yorkers and NY society in particular who hadn’t welcomed him into elite circles or clubs.
@ilahildasissac1943
@ilahildasissac1943 Жыл бұрын
There is a video of an older Evelyn singing in the 30's.
@ilahildasissac1943
@ilahildasissac1943 Жыл бұрын
Evelyn also dated John Barrymore. There are rumors that Stanford paid for her to abort John's kid.
@vincentgoupil180
@vincentgoupil180 Жыл бұрын
Evelyn Nesbit was a chorus girl in the Tenderloin District when she met Stanford White which was considered at that time to be a prostitute. In other words she was a call girl White spent sums of money on including putting her and her mother up in a hotel. Thaw was most likely gay and Nesbit was his bread.
@OGKingofmeh
@OGKingofmeh Жыл бұрын
If you want to see an accurate portrayal of Stanford White’s murder, there is also a Milos Forman movie named “Ragtime” that has a portion of it dramatizing the event (it’s also the basis of the Broadway musical of the same name)
@patricialong5767
@patricialong5767 Жыл бұрын
Stunning architecture by any standard by a brilliant if troubled architect. A very interesting individual, for certain. I did see the Evelyn Nesbit story, which was a shocker.
@paulakpacente
@paulakpacente Жыл бұрын
I'm just sorry that White's home was demolished.
@jack_thecool
@jack_thecool Жыл бұрын
You should make a video about 173 Adams Street Milton MA. My dad grew up in the victorian home and there's not to much we know about it. There are many people who have stayed there who swear its haunted. Its a very cool house and it would be great if you could make a video about it so we can learn more about the history.
@7BI0Vx4
@7BI0Vx4 Жыл бұрын
The Girl in the Red Velvet Swing is an interesting movie about the Nesbit/White/Thaw triangle affair. While it isn't as graphic as today's films and takes a few minor liberties with the story, it is extremely accurate.
@gy2gy246
@gy2gy246 10 ай бұрын
I saw it on TV many years ago, and was surprised that such a story, an older man seducing an underage girl, had been filmed as early as 1955.
@kbrown5218
@kbrown5218 Жыл бұрын
His personal life of being a groomer has overshadowed his architectural creativities. His hunger to stuff his home with over indulgence may have been to satisfy his wife from finding out his backroom life....
@lesleeherschfus707
@lesleeherschfus707 Жыл бұрын
How come you missed the best part? The room with the red velvet swing?
@032319581
@032319581 Жыл бұрын
I had read about him being killed but not why. Dreadful. I feel horrible for his wife.
@readergreg60
@readergreg60 Жыл бұрын
Loved the music room!!
@ladyhonor822
@ladyhonor822 Жыл бұрын
Thank you So MUCH, for doing this #1❤️💋🏡🇺🇲
@StamperWendy
@StamperWendy Жыл бұрын
Too bad she had to pay back his debt. It sounds like he ruined many lives...
@vincentgoupil180
@vincentgoupil180 Жыл бұрын
According to the video only 10% of the debt was paid. That's a 90% profit margin.
@08binkers
@08binkers Жыл бұрын
Never knew about any of it. Guess what?? I do now. Very interesting. Thank you👍🏼
@MrMrremmington
@MrMrremmington Жыл бұрын
That was one of your best storytelling’s. Quite the story
@lucretciaseven4873
@lucretciaseven4873 Жыл бұрын
Stanford White was no peach I'm sure, but Thaw was a thoroughly dispicable man who was a mean spirited bully whose arrogant ego was so touchy that it tipped him into unstable madness that reupted in ungovernable violence against any one who he felt slighted him in the least. His killing of White came a long time after White and Evelyn Nesbitt's relationhship had ceased and was more likely motivated by White's blocking Thaw from an upper class club, something which he had smouldered over ever since. The use of his wife as the excuse for the murder contrived by Thaw had been very successful in other cases where "the unwritten law" as it was called at that time had gotten many husbands, fathers and brothers aquitted for killing men for assaulting or molesting their wives or loved ones. The Thaw family exerted all the influence their money could buy knowing that without the defense they employed Thaw wouldn't have stood a chance at evading the gallows because there were too many witnesses and White was well liked while Thaw was barely tolerated due ro his obnoxious and unacceptable personality. However, Thaw and his family got extremely lucky ( insert a subtle bit of eye rolling here) with the Judge's light sentence on the grounds of insanity as that was not a widely accepted or used defense at the time. Thaw was extremely abusive to Evelyn both verbally and physically and according to her own statements his family strongarmed her into testifying not only when she did not want to, but also making the allegation very lurid in detail. Many suspected the other young women who came out of the shadows were "encouraged" to do so by his very wealthy family also. There is some credence to this as at that time the women coming forward could mean social siberia for them as well as their families if they were middle class and if poor could end employment possibilities. All would have nothing to gain by doing it, but unwelcome notoriety and grief for which getting jutice or retribution would have offered little incentive, however money could help them start better lives elsewhere. Evelyn Nesbitt's excessively cruel and cold treatment by Thaw's family afterward is quite telling and I think lends credence to the aforementioned suspicions as did her own later statments that alluded to their coercion of her and that she viewed White as a friend and benefactor to her well after their physical relationship was over..
@adrianh.callais7565
@adrianh.callais7565 Жыл бұрын
Well said.
@barbarajoseph5897
@barbarajoseph5897 Жыл бұрын
Great Job!
@dianafausto1114
@dianafausto1114 Жыл бұрын
This was fascinating. I never knew about this back story. You do great research.
@1057shelley
@1057shelley Жыл бұрын
Didn’t care for any of the rooms shown. Way to overdone and gaudy.
@davidward805
@davidward805 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting video, as usual.
@johnwollschlager9827
@johnwollschlager9827 11 ай бұрын
Stanford White's murder was an occasional topic of conversation in my family during the 1950's and early 1960'. A Great Uncle of mine was there in NYC when it happened. Details were not shared other than it was an illustration of the lowness of high society.
@jrgnc1
@jrgnc1 Жыл бұрын
He changed the whole interior of the house with loan money, kept it from his wife, didn't pay the landlord the rent, had an affair with thaw's wife, and got murdered for it & never repaid the loans, leaving all the mess to his wife. What a winner!
@rbsmith3365
@rbsmith3365 Жыл бұрын
He was dying with Sexual Transmitted Disease too.
@ladylibertywdc8324
@ladylibertywdc8324 Жыл бұрын
The affair pre-dated the marriage to Shaw.
@vincentgoupil180
@vincentgoupil180 Жыл бұрын
Probably more to the surface story given in this video. Stanford White ran an antique business from his trips pillaging European houses for pennies on the dollar then selling them to his clients for an exorbitant mark-up. So, what you see in the apartment is his inventory of his side interior design business.
@marial8235
@marial8235 Жыл бұрын
Harry Thaw was gamey looking.
@franvarga709
@franvarga709 Жыл бұрын
The Stanford White scandal was included as a sub-plot theme in E L Doctorow's novel, Ragtime. The movie of the same name is pretty good.
@shangrila73eldorado
@shangrila73eldorado 8 ай бұрын
good effort. i like any video that uses real voices
@StevenTorrey
@StevenTorrey Жыл бұрын
Did White use the whole building as his residence? Or what part? I seemed to have missed that?
@vincentgoupil180
@vincentgoupil180 Жыл бұрын
Good point. White pillaged European houses for their interiors and more for pennies on the dollar then resold them to his clients for a profit. So, what the video shows is more likely a storefront for his interior design business.
@peterbroderson6080
@peterbroderson6080 Жыл бұрын
Yes, most interesting and information totally new to me, and I thought I was quite familiar with his work.
@jamesslick4790
@jamesslick4790 Жыл бұрын
I'm from Pittsburgh. The Thaw trial was STILL talked about (By my grandparent's generation) into the 1970s! (Mostly agreed that THAW was RIGHT!)😲 Thaw AND Nesbit were both from the Pittsburgh area. Additional "Fun Fact": H.H. Richardson designed one of Pittsburgh's most famous buildings: The Allegheny County Courthouse & Jail. For a New York story, Lotza Pittsburgh connections here!
@carolyn8271
@carolyn8271 Жыл бұрын
Way too much, of course, that was the style among the rich, at the time.
@jonnycat6a517
@jonnycat6a517 Жыл бұрын
She was beautiful
@BILLY-px3hw
@BILLY-px3hw Жыл бұрын
Well his brownstone was badass, can't believe they only got $25,000 selling off the art and antiques, it would be millions today, he was only $250,000 in debt which is a lot back then, but really not unheard of or insurmountable. If he wasn't such a creep and lived, I think he would have got himself out from underneath it, sad that his poor wife was left with his debt and demented legacy
@vincentgoupil180
@vincentgoupil180 Жыл бұрын
90% of the debt was repaid. That's a 90% profit margin. Not bad.
@clintcountryman4849
@clintcountryman4849 Жыл бұрын
Developers ruin everything
@Angie-GoneSoon
@Angie-GoneSoon Жыл бұрын
That was a very interesting and horribly sad twist!
@brober
@brober Жыл бұрын
Where was his "playroom" with the red velvet swing.?
@lamoinette23
@lamoinette23 10 ай бұрын
it was in a small brownstone house, no. 22 on west 24th street.. only quite recently it had fallen into disrepair and was torn down. one wonders what happened to all of his interior belongings etc., probably removed long ago.
@davidfaulkner8201
@davidfaulkner8201 Жыл бұрын
Evelyn Nesbitt is the original " Girl on a red velvet swing" .
@michaelgardner-vn6kn
@michaelgardner-vn6kn Жыл бұрын
An excellent bio here on KZbin: "Treasures of New York: Stanford White."
@jackiejermeay6568
@jackiejermeay6568 Жыл бұрын
Very surprised. Very interesting
@rickyt3961
@rickyt3961 Жыл бұрын
thank you!
@B0H0
@B0H0 Жыл бұрын
It was June 25th not July 25th.
@brianedwards7142
@brianedwards7142 Жыл бұрын
This is like a Nero Wolfe novel.
@horaciomillan4181
@horaciomillan4181 Жыл бұрын
As I have heard and read many accounts on the murder of SW, even as it was played in movies (Ragtime and The Girl in the velvet swing), it seems that he was not such a depraved man and EN was a former “model” for many men before, and when the murder happened Stanford had long stop his relation with her, though he was interested in her as a friend. So I don’t think he deserves to be taken as a rapist, more so if you consider that the statements were made by a not very trustable women still married to an unstable and very rich man.
@sherriianiro747
@sherriianiro747 Жыл бұрын
Exactly! Nesbit was very free spirited and said she was pressured to exaggerate on the stand. She continued seeing him after the alleged assaults too.
@vincentgoupil180
@vincentgoupil180 Жыл бұрын
Evelyn Nesbit was a chorus girl in the Tenderloin District which at the time was considered a prostitute or in White's case a very expensive call-girl. Actors' reputations were no better. Nesbit also considered herself an actor.
@gy2gy246
@gy2gy246 10 ай бұрын
White's life isn't a dark secret. The story of him, Thaw and Nesbit is well-known, and was even made into a film in the '50's, and was again related in the film "Ragtime" in 1981.
@ilikequiet6474
@ilikequiet6474 Жыл бұрын
I think the woman was very beautiful.
@jamesslick4790
@jamesslick4790 Жыл бұрын
"We might think of celebrities as having perfect lives.." Um, I don't. I think that a "celebrity" having a "perfect life" (or even a NORMAL life) Is certainly RARE! Not really sad that this one is gone. Just an ordinary block with a dark past. The Gramercy Park Hotel IS a nice building in its own right!
@mitchellbarnow1709
@mitchellbarnow1709 Жыл бұрын
Many men cannot keep themselves faithful to their wives, but to then leave an incredible debt to his wife, makes me unsympathetic to his murder and I celebrate his murderer! His home was a masterpiece but only a billionaire could afford to live this way. I understand that he was probably very envious of his extremely wealthy clients and he wanted to live even better than they did, but it’s not right what he did to get there.
@StarStruckWitch
@StarStruckWitch 7 ай бұрын
Messed up! I put together a list from what KZbin offers me as I scroll down. I put video's in that got good click bait, not ashamed to say. If it looks interesting it makes the cut. I will go all the way down sometime's, to the end of the scroll that is offered to me. Then I will promptly go on about my business. I'm renovating my house, alone. Sometimes I sit down to smoke. And at those times I may actually see and hear what I programmed to play. But even on smoke breaks I sometimes won't pay attention because I'll pull up FB and scroll there. Who knows how much of these Video's are being digested by my consciousness as I work. I generally put video's from KZbin on my TV as a sort of background noise. Seldom watch 75% of what it says I watched though. I also do what you said too, I will jump to the next video when I sit down if I'm not liking the sound of the content or the cantor of the person reading, or even when they get AI to read it and it keeps pronouncing the words wrong. But also I will often put a list together for playing while I sleep. Point is I don't even come close to watching all the videos it claims I watched, and that's a messed up thought.
@gy2gy246
@gy2gy246 10 ай бұрын
Almost all the Gilded Age houses in New York City have been torn down. :-(
@sharonmullins1957
@sharonmullins1957 Жыл бұрын
WOW!
@larzmertz
@larzmertz Жыл бұрын
Ad Hominem logical fallacy describes the confused summation of a topic or person’s work based on their personal nature. In this case- the historical regurgitation of a genius’ work is yet again overshadowed by things irrelevant to his contributions. Not helpful for people looking for actual history.
@jennifermccraw7687
@jennifermccraw7687 Жыл бұрын
In the skylit conversation, is there a circle medallion of some type hanging from the metal-looking ceiling fixture that has a boy figure on it? What is that?
@slicksnewonenow
@slicksnewonenow Жыл бұрын
Some folks say that White had some big balls... Although it's been confirmed that they were exactly the same as everyone else attended.
@cary8575
@cary8575 Жыл бұрын
The first “Murder of the Century”
@Mosaickool
@Mosaickool Жыл бұрын
Although I don't know much about this guy I would have arguably say that most of the women who were dealing with him knew what he was like but in order to save their reputations I think they lied about who he was and what he allegedly did to them
@annfrye5716
@annfrye5716 Жыл бұрын
Love the mushstache. Hate the decor.
@4OHz
@4OHz Жыл бұрын
His house looked good 10 ideas ago. Garish to the point of being simply an overdecorated cake
@phoenixswanson1561
@phoenixswanson1561 Жыл бұрын
8:24 - Like Lynn..
@jamesburtonbud
@jamesburtonbud Жыл бұрын
Wow, what a monster!
@toserveman9265
@toserveman9265 Жыл бұрын
You omitted that Nesbitt was extremely manipulative and later admitted lying to her husband about Mr. White, not that any were arbiters of morality. You must be liberal.
@jamesburtonbud
@jamesburtonbud Жыл бұрын
Just did some research on what you said. I cannot find anything about your claims. Making things up to have excuses for a groomer. You must be a republican.
@laurencaulton103
@laurencaulton103 Жыл бұрын
The Rich and the Sordid. How could it not lead to murder?
@JodyOwen-we6oo
@JodyOwen-we6oo Жыл бұрын
I always disliked the gilded age style of interior design. They were attempting mimicking the grand style of places like Versailles, the Palazzo Vecchio or the great palazzi in Rome. They failed. You need vast interior spaces to make this look regal rather than just unbearably cluttered. You rarely saw the 23 chairs and 4 tables in a salon in a Venetian palace you see in the small rooms filled with ornate furniture in this video. It didn’t help that natural light was scarce in these rooms due both to taste for heavy, dark window drapes and the need to insulate windows with them in winter. A finely sculpted or carved fireplace in a room where the fireplace is the focus and restraint rules everywhere else can be lovely. Alternatively the elements around windows and doors can be the focus and restraint everywhere else. If every foot of floor and wall is crawling with carved stone and wood it’s not regal. It’s tasteless.
@vincentgoupil180
@vincentgoupil180 Жыл бұрын
White pillaged European houses of their interiors for pennies on the dollar reselling them to his clients for a profit. So, probably what is shown is a storefront for White's interior design business.
@christopherkraft1327
@christopherkraft1327 Жыл бұрын
Stanford White was a sick puppy 😮
@jillatherton4660
@jillatherton4660 Жыл бұрын
👍
@susprime7018
@susprime7018 Жыл бұрын
Evelyn Nesbitt went on, if true, he was a monster.
@kristenhurst683
@kristenhurst683 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if these folks would have ever invited an actual Italian to their home?
@conniemontfort6265
@conniemontfort6265 Жыл бұрын
I read RAGTIME about 25 years ago.
@kokomo9764
@kokomo9764 Жыл бұрын
He seemed to have good taste in women (girls), except for his wife.
@albertvillalobos1377
@albertvillalobos1377 Жыл бұрын
I probably deserve some credit for this
@jamesburtonbud
@jamesburtonbud Жыл бұрын
credit for what?
@a.ashley5292
@a.ashley5292 Жыл бұрын
Me, too. I think I stayed up all night for this project.
@sharonrousseau3527
@sharonrousseau3527 Жыл бұрын
Horrifying crimes and craven criminal.
@erin19030
@erin19030 Жыл бұрын
What the hell is on his silly face?
@cynthiamadrid1430
@cynthiamadrid1430 Жыл бұрын
Read "Ragtime" ELDoctorow
@loribug12
@loribug12 3 ай бұрын
I’m not saying what he did was right in any way. But where in the world was her parents?
@rld1278
@rld1278 Жыл бұрын
Every delite I learn about has an evil past involving children and worse, so I'm not surprised. He was a groomer.
@MeMyselfAndUs903
@MeMyselfAndUs903 Жыл бұрын
🤟🏻👍
@Nursebakr
@Nursebakr Жыл бұрын
I never heard of his perv activities.
@erin19030
@erin19030 Жыл бұрын
His taste was all in his mouth
@saccharinesilk
@saccharinesilk Жыл бұрын
have you considered not using these ai upscaled images? they're kind of distracting, and almost certainly not detail-accurate anyway
@sandybruce9092
@sandybruce9092 Жыл бұрын
What AI upscale images? And yes, I know what AI is!!! All I saw were photographs and a painting of this wife!
@JohnSmith-qg3jb
@JohnSmith-qg3jb Жыл бұрын
But u did not reveal anything. Clickbait.
@jamesburtonbud
@jamesburtonbud Жыл бұрын
but they actually did! you have to pay attention. They revealed that he was a groomer and left his wife with massive piles of debt when he passed. did you watch 3 seconds of this video before trolling down in the comments?
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