Stanley Bailey Hand Plane Restoration (No. 4/Type 15/1930s)

[@CombsDesign]

As some of you have pointed out, this plane might not be as old as I originally thought. Sorry for any confusion, it was an honest mistake based on the information I had at the time. No matter what age this plane is, the video still covers an antique plane restoration, so sit back and just enjoy the video.

[@MintStiles]

English made ones does not follow the normal type study. They were a bit more heavily built. Though after the US made type 20, realistically only English planes were true "Bailey" at all and work as good as anything made in US before it, albeit with a bit more weight penalty/advantage. The "Y" style receiver on the sole for the frog wasn't introduced until the US made type 19. That may give you a better idea of when it was made.

[@jeffclark5268]

For cleaning up those handles use a scraper. Works wonders.

[@jeffsmith4232]

I have learned that using vinegar will cause flash rusting soon after use. Products like Evaporust work much better and quicker. I like your ideas about using temp screws during the paint process

[@CombsDesign]

Great idea. I struggled with flash rusting on this one.

[@civicboomer2135]

Nice job.Whatever the year bear in mind this is an english Stanley....Made in England. See at 10:02. It also has a raised rib front and back and a steel adjustment knob. Steel and aluminum were used in WWII. So It could be 40's but I don't know English Stanley Co.

[@CombsDesign]

There are a lot of unknowns in the production of the English made planes. Much less information than the American made ones. No matter what the true age is, this video can still hopefully serve as a tool to inspire and teach others how to bring these great tools back to life!

[@civicboomer2135]

@@CombsDesign You got that right. That era of Stanley in the US is pretty confusing anyway and who knows about the English ones. At any rate you sure did a great job and it turned out nice. Bringing these tools back is what it's all about!

[@ornabels]

@@CombsDesign Really nice job on the restoration. Having owned quite a few English Stanleys, my guess is that yours is not earlier than mid 60's. The pre 60's planes had the top edge of the cheeks machined flat. The blade and chip breaker shapes suggest mid 60's or later. Beech handles were adopted in 1939 and Stanley England never reverted to rosewood. As you mentioned Stanley England alternated between steel and brass hardware for a time.

[@julieerdman1485]

what a great hand plane!

[@CombsDesign]

Thank you! I am super happy with it and look forward to restoring a No. 7 or No. 8 next.

[@julieerdman1485]

@@CombsDesign what is your No. 7 and 8? friend

[@CombsDesign]

@@julieerdman1485 I have not purchased them yet, but they are just a larger plane used for flattening large stock quickly.

[@julieerdman1485]

@@CombsDesign Have you thought about testing other tools?

[@CombsDesign]

Unfortunately I don't do any tool tests on this channel.

[@kevinwhiteaz]

Beautiful job!

[@CombsDesign]

Thank you!

[@omanitztristen]

What oil do you use or recommend for the metal parts after rust removal

[@thecasualcitizen492]

Your plane is not type 15. Looks like a type 19 vintage 1948 to 1961. The kidney shaped hole in the lever cap started with type 16 in 1933. The frog has the ogee shaped sides, and the lateral adjust lever appears to have Stanley printed vertically. Type 19 or later.

[@jcsrst]

Not to mention the knob and tote aren't rosewood.

[@johnnyzone1967]

I am glad that someone said it 😅

[@stefanrandt33]

What paint did you use on the top?

[@CombsDesign]

I used some Testors model paint!

[@timothymallon]

That's not a type 15. Here's the evidence against it: 1) lateral adjustment arm does not have a machined wheel where it meets the back of the iron. It's a stamped shape. 2) the yoke for the main iron adjuster is a split steel design, not the cast yoke. (introduced in the 1960s) 3) The depth adjusting knob and nuts on the tote and knob are aluminum, not brass (Already puts it "post-1930s") 4) lever cap has kidney bean hole, not the keyhole design, as well as the "red" painted logo 5) tote and knob are not rosewood, but some other hardwood 6) tote is not graceful on the "round-overs" (someone who's been around a bunch of these planes knows what I mean about that graceful shape on the grip) 7) frog has much less material than earlier versions to save on cost and machining 8) frog base is Y shape Conclusion: your plane is a type 19 or later made between 1958-1961 (although the type 19 began in 1948, yours does not have rosewood knob or tote so it puts it in the latter part of production) There are far better ways to date your plane than using that flowchart you posted in an earlier comment. That flow chart is not accurate for all planes. It has a very specific set of details it gives and is only good if all other things are correct. There are a lot of factors that it doesn't mention at all.

[@CombsDesign]

Whatever it is, I ended up with a fully functional plane that has been working really well. Thanks for the input.

[@timothymallon]

@@CombsDesign I agree. I didn't mean to sound harsh about it, but I also didn't want you to be ripped off when buying planes or accidently sell a plane that wasn't accurately advertised.

[@mihailmihaylov9617]

they did't use aluminium in the thirties, that is for sure, try early 80s

[@CombsDesign]

I'm not sure I understand? There isn't any aluminum on this plane.

[@mihailmihaylov9617]

@@CombsDesign The nuts that fasten the knob and the tote look like they are made from aluminium. They are slightly chamfered near the perimeter. These are tell-tale signs that the plane was made much later (my guess would be somewhere in the 80s). Another is the frog. Initially, and all the way to the late fifties, the frogs were machined flat. Because that was time-consuming, Stanley ribbed the surface and machined only the ribs to form the surface (plane) that the iron assembly rests on.

[@CombsDesign]

@@mihailmihaylov9617 I would encourage you to work through this chart. Some of the features you are mentioning came and went depending on the era and what was available from a manufacturing standpoint around the various wars. cloud.woodandshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/stanley-bailey-handplane-type-study-flow-chart.pdf