Star Citizen: Around the Verse - The Music of Squadron 42

Around the Verse explores the art and tech behind the score for Squadron 42. Composer Geoff Zanelli (Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales, The Pacific, Outlander) walks us through his process, while Ross Tregenza and Lee Banyard discuss the technical challenges for the CIG Audio team. Sandi Gardiner and Josh Herman host this week’s episode, which also includes an update with Brian Chambers from Foundry 42 in Germany. Learn more at robertsspacein...
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[@ebigggz]

It saddens me that music doesn't seem to carry a lot of weight with folks in the comments. Music is such an underappreciated part of games, and movies for that matter. I enjoyed every minute of this.

[@d34d10ck]

Most gamers are stupid and unreasonable. Always were, always will be.

[@mobiuscoreindustries]

ebiggs well there is people that don't care about music, people butthurt about 3.0 because they can't read the schedule and haters that say dumb things for other dumb people to repeat elswere. and here and there there is people that actually enjoy the amazing work behind the gqme

[@striderk-jin5387]

I wholeheartedly agree. Music plays an important part in Star Citizen. People seriously need to appreciate that. I wish more people would enjoy music that sets the mood for various situations in the 'Verse from fighting to just flying casually.

[@iPawk]

Agree completely, this is fascinating and beautiful

[@moppin]

I agree but they hit the nail on the head here. I typically start all games with the music on but on most games I eventually turn it off if it is replaying the same music over-and-over or when it isn't aligned with the "mood" of what I'm doing in game.

[@commandercostas]

Why do so many people complain about having an insight in music? music is plays a very important role in the atmosphere of a game. "We wanna see planets" YOU ALREADY KNOW WHAT'S UP WITH THEM

[@Wind_Lord]

GibsonGaming "most gamers turn off the music" and 88.25% of statistics are made up on the spot! Rubbish, just complete nonsense. Take a poll for that did we, or maybe a an online survey... oh no! Your just made it up to support your point of view.

[@mobiuscoreindustries]

GibsonGaming i know that people turn the sound down, but I know no one, absolutly no one that turn off music in their games.

[@leokesura5955]

I turn music down when i'm in a combat situation cause i need to hear the enemy but when exploring and traveling music is cool.

[@Spectracon]

Exactly

[@JohnEthan777]

GibsonGaming most gamers who play esports titles maybe? To chat with teammates play with music off... And they do form a significant part of the population. This game however is meant to be atmospheric like other single player titles so... Music will play a big part in making the sound environment. Lol player right here signing out..

[@erik7317]

The music is one of the best parts of any piece of media. This is important, and I love it so much. Halo wouldn't be whole without the music. No movie would be. No game. This especially needs good music, and I love what we have already.

[@erik7317]

GibsonGaming while I can definitely agree with you about annoying background music especially during npc interactions, there are games that do it right. Halo is definitely one of them. Cut scenes or menu navigation come to mind. Mass effect is known for its themes and music, as well as Destiny, Advent Rising, etc. I know several people that can have an elicited feeling of nostalgia when hearing a track from something like World of Warcraft. There are definitely times where music needs to be turned off.... like where you're on a planet in SWTOR for 8 hours and you just can't stand that theme any longer. You definitely have good points, but I think a majority of us like to experience the music in a game, for at least one play through.

[@Intrepid17011]

Forrest of Elwynn Music, Howling Fjord ( Wow ), Below the Asteroids ( Eve Online ) and few titles of the X Series, everytime i hear them i get chievers down the spine and want to play those games again just to hear the music again in my know Environment. And SC has really good music ( execpt the Battle Music which can get kinda annoying :D )

[@affenbrotbaumse]

Music is great, but I could name 3.0 things that are better.

[@xIconikkxGaming]

I like

[@Sheppardsg1]

you mean 78

[@shakuro4168]

Forget the 3.0 for the moment. Take care of you. We can probably waiting until next Gamescom.

[@1234macro]

4 minutes in and this is already the greatest ATV in a while

[@fourtus5133]

SSST!!! still have to watch it :D

[@Amaha98]

you only have yourself to blame for jinxing it. :[

[@1234macro]

***** The rest was incredibly interesting as well, do you live on Earth?

[@amiththomas3884]

Yeah I actually found the rest of it very interesting, and this is coming from someone who hated the previous two ATVs. This one to me was quite exciting, and the part with the music transitions was very impressive to me, although I wish they just had a section playing the music and transitions at full volume, rather than in the background.

[@RossTregenza]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@ignitiondj4025]

Really, the music? When will we get the planetary tech part 2?

[@Hugo-pj4bm]

IgnitionDJ what are they supposed to show when they don't have anything to do so?

[@D3VIL3AGL3]

Just watch it

[@Stayler17]

Can you link for me the planetary tech part 1 video?

[@clementbailleul8264]

Music is really an important part for immersion and emotional connection, and their music systems are quite innovative ^^ but I understand the impatience...

[@Crovea]

They did show some planetary tech

[@TheDavid0408]

Sometimes i have a feeling that foundry 42 are the only ones working on the game and the rest of the studios are just there for fundraising contents, BTW great music it's the main reason i bucked up the game so i could sit in the menu just sucking in the sound

[@matrixarsmusicworkshop561]

I cant tell id that was a sarcasm or not lol. But to the first part - it's true. They are working on SQ42 now mainly. And thats good

[@Hugo-pj4bm]

LazyPanda WE have no idea who is doing how much or what.

[@Ynoita]

Foundry 42 UK and Frankfurt are the biggest studios, so I guess they are making the biggest part of the work indeed.

[@GahMehGrrrr]

Nerd Council it's almost as if every comment from lazypanda is deliberately negative and goading. :)

[@UnderdogSMO]

they are the bigst of all the studios I think

[@BadSanta110]

Video is up since 4 minutes and already 12 dislikes? Those haters are fast.

[@garri87games]

No man's Sky fans?

[@ZurakciEntertainment]

I can somewhat understand it. People are excited for 3.0 and want info OF THAT UPDATE. When people see either "Music" or "Art" people will be sour cause it is FAR from what people want. Thats what.

[@leokesura5955]

Yup it irritates me that they only show 2min of an update.. is that all they got? Theres so much they could show that could easy fill 60mins! Things like Clothes, Buildings, Weather effects, Water( SEA), Cargo interaction etc.. but No they dont.. for whatever reason..

[@mokutomedia1253]

Yes they are! ]\'[

[@Koooles]

"Hype" should be completely irrelevant. You want hype when you launch your game in few months or launch a kickstarter. it's been 4 years and people who backed SC are not 12 year olds with attention span of 2min. People want to see actual progress and less "there is x and a but let us speak about it for 20min and show you some recycled footage".

[@TheExtraMile]

LOVED the part from Frankfurt, have to admit that I fast forwarded through most of the rest.

[@leokesura5955]

The Frankfurt part was a good update.. but for whatever reasons they only show 2min of tiny bits and that sucks!

[@johnjoe7826]

The Extra Mile yeah just Show US Frankfurt get rid of the Rest

[@360snipepro]

Brian Chambers killed it this episode

[@Amaha98]

yeah , there is always something exciting coming up when he shows up.

[@HybridVAudio]

Aw, cmon guys don't hate on this because they focused on the music of SQ42. It's important to bring attention to those that help make the game what it is, especially those on the audio side of games who tend to be the unsung heroes of the industry.

[@isaiahsheffield2447]

3.0 what we want

[@alexzuelke5209]

isaiah sheffield you'll get it when it's ready

[@Hugo-pj4bm]

isaiah sheffield it's not ready yet. you will not change anything with writing that everywhere. they won't work faster because of your comment. and it would be great if you'd actually watch the video first .

[@isaiahsheffield2447]

yes i know that i haven't forgotten the anticipation is killing me though I love CIG of course i want them t do it right take as long as u need just not to long

[@d34d10ck]

Here. Look it up robertsspaceindustries.com/schedule-report That's gonna be in it. I hope you are happy now.

[@d34d10ck]

Don't you think CIG know, that we want 3.0. They themself want to push it out of the door as well, but apparently they pushed the release back and put more stuff into it. You are only annoying us, CIG and yourself with these comments. You can be pretty sure, that 3.0 won't come out before the second half of the year, so don't wait for it. Just take it as it comes and enjoy the updates.

[@SpaceMike3]

Stop watching after 4:40. Just music talk after that and while it might interest a few of you it doesn't me.

[@Amaha98]

aye aye captain brannigan

[@SpaceMike3]

***** ok Mr aggressive. Just trying to help.

[@d34d10ck]

You didn't. Music was the most interesting part.

[@SpaceMike3]

Each to his own or is that not allowed?

[@qtza7837]

+Patrick Bateman For you, not for a lot of other people...

[@xhammy6174]

First four minutes: Progress Last twenty six minutes: Inconsequential First ATV to get more dislikes than likes? Probably not gonna happen... maybe doh

[@xhammy6174]

XD

[@qtza7837]

+gandharzero LOL

[@tazbo28]

Most dirtbaggy thing Ive seen someone write about this developer....jeez. You people are so fcking ungrateful.

[@qtza7837]

vincent ortiz you can shut up now.

[@HoboInASuit4Tune]

+xhammy I liked this video after reading your comment, just to make a point. ;)

[@dayman888]

Since it seems apparent that no one cares about music, then I think the entire soundtrack should be the John Cena theme song played by Chris Roberts on the Kazoo.

[@dayman888]

I really enjoyed hearing these guys talk about the music cause if anyone listens to what they say, It's pretty amazing.

[@RossTregenza]

I have a meeting with him tomorrow, I'll be sure to ask :)

[@dayman888]

Woo hoo! You guys are doing great!

[@MerchantIvoryfilms]

Its absolutely shameful to see such toxic comments about the dislike of a composer explaining how honoured he is to be writing the music for Star Citizen.

[@Deathshuck]

Music is one of those things that when it's good, no-one will actually notice it, but it's the most important part in creating an atmosphere. Imagine how different Star Wars would have been without music.

[@liam68]

Eargasm every time I hear the music

[@mobiuscoreindustries]

BroToast so good istn't it?

[@jackieramsey1618]

I am so happy. You can easily hear the passion in his voice when he speaks about writing music for Star Citizen. Passion the shows in his work as well.

[@01ZombieMoses10]

I don't think I could be any more giddy about the music direction. The Pacific had one of those most moving and iconic scores I can remember from any TV series and I think we are all truly blessed to have Zanelli heading up the scoring for Squadron 42.

[@inigomontoya6968]

Fantastic stuff! Having great music adds so much to a game. Without good music is like watching a movie on 8mm. With good music, complete with proper transitions, is like watching a high def blue ray release. It just adds so much!

[@Joni-ds1kh]

I think music is a very important and interesting part!

[@XkriskrossX]

I like this new ATV! Better chemistry, superior overall content delivery. Cannot get enough. I hate to be greedy but many of us want more "Meat & Potatoes" like this if you catch our drift. More content reveals that wow us besides having to wait for another 'con' event. It doesn't even have to be concrete video footage, it can be as rugged and incomplete as can be.

[@andreasus]

Josh Friedman They try to avoid showing not complete work, because it would scare off new people, that dont understand its wip/alpha and would think of star citizen as looking bad etc.

[@XkriskrossX]

Andreas Lutsch Ah

[@Wind_Lord]

Andreas Lutsch I agree they do that but it's a mistake imo. People would only be scared off if it was like that at release, not in alpha. Either they will support the vision or not. But those who have backed, a large number are starting to get more disillusioned by their perceived lack of content. I don't share that view but some content is sometimes better than perfect content in 10 months time. If those who invested are happy with the content then they will attract more through word of mouth IMO.

[@-ec-fuzzy_rogue1411]

I'm a music enthusiast. Thanks to WoW. The first thing I process, when playing a game, watching a movie. Is music. I don't judge a book by it's cover. But by it's music. And SC has one of the top notch tracks. Fits the universe, the scenery. The gameplay. Love it :D

[@mokutomedia1253]

To Cloud imperium games. I remember last time you had released a vid like this people were so awestruck with the results of your work that I don't remember negative words at all! This time however with you being so close to a huge mile stone (3.0) it would seem that's not that case. Hang in there guys! ]\'[

[@chrishoesel]

They're not THAT close to 3.0. I think it's at least 6-9 months away before we see anything of it.

[@Areanyusernamesleft]

Chris Hoesel I would halve those estimates, especially if they release 2.6.1 around the scheduled time (i.e. mid-Feburary), and the 2.6.2 in a couple months after that. These two patches, especially 2.6.2 contain fundamental systems necessary for the mechanics the players will interact with in 3.0 to work.

[@mokutomedia1253]

Could you elaborate on those systems or show me where to find out what they are btw? ]\'[

[@dontshowmyname5293]

I think we just need to understand that most of the dislikes are because not everyone is entirely interested in the music. I personally loved it, especially getting to hear some of the music we will be hearing eventually.

[@johnjoe7826]

Dont Showmyname Dude there were so much bla bla in this atv just Bad its true totally Bad

[@dontshowmyname5293]

All this show is is insight into the development. They are trying to show all aspects of the game that they can show. Just because you don't care for this episode doesn't mean its inherently bad.

[@HighDefBNG]

I think that Sandy has done such a great job on Star Citizen youtube videos over this journey, such a great speaker.

[@terraint3697]

Amazing audio systems! Going to be better than a movie! Everyone is doing an amazing job and thanks for bringing us a good ATV this week.

[@frankenshizzle]

avg 20 minutes long weekly dev blogs that are professionally shot and informative and 1/6 downvote? I love this fanbase.

[@ollierkul]

Haters gonna hate mate.

[@MageArtGreenDragon]

Its not the fans or backers. Just trolls and haters.

[@RossTregenza]

great attitude, glad you enjoyed our video!

[@niteowl6779]

Impatient people who cannot appreciate ALL of the aspects of "SC" are not true dedicated fans! The music aspect is totally awesome, loved it!!!

[@Wintermist-SWE]

Wow, yeah I can really imagine what a great effect this will have on your gameplay experience. Like... you're in space combat, things aren't going great, suddenly more ships drop in, you don't know if you're now doomed completely or saved, when the ships start to attack your enemies and the music completely flips... should give you goosebumps!

[@TruthIsKey369]

The music is a big part of games like this and Chris Roberts KNOWS how to make great games and he is finally making the game of his life! ENJOYING THE RIDE!! EPIC!

[@Malakie]

The new procedural plant and particle stuff is awesome! impressive! I wonder if CIG is or will be going for patents on some of the new tech they are having to invent and design?

[@KorporalNobbs]

Listening to Ross speaking so passionated about the music system is just awesome. Really looking forward to hear it in action.

[@neob8366]

Geoff Zanelli amazing composer. Into the West soundtrack was awesome.

[@zanellitivity]

Thanks for listening, neob!

[@neob8366]

It's my pleasure. I'm glad to have you in the team.

[@SosoDeSamurai]

"Squadron is such a fantastic cinematic game".... would love to see this for myself!!!

[@Leve2Games]

Sum it up for you: 1.) New detail for planets. particle/weather effects 2.) A lot of music "you knows" Fell a sleep listening to this episode (._ .)

[@YoungSlim51]

That firing range is a big want for me. Well not one that looks like a dev testbed but still. This game has weapons you have to actually get to know in order to be good with. Especially since they don't work by simple hitscan. A firing range would be a great place to get to learn each weapon's quirks.

[@citizenshenanigans2907]

YoungSlim51 Agreed. should love to have a firing range and maybe extend that to accuracy obstacle course in Star Marine.

[@trubaduren1465]

"We've completely negated the need for a crossfade, so it's pure music." That's awesome. Actually, everything about this is awesome.

[@wavion2]

Loved this episode. So many people complaining about not seeing this or that, but music is a huge part of the experience and they hardly ever even mention it.

[@nate22i]

Awesome update from Frankfurt and great Music! Best AtV this year. Can't wait for more :)

[@michaelfrancistan]

Music is an important part in games, the video actually interested me

[@Amaroq64]

For those who don't think music is important: Halo would literally have not been Halo without Marty O'donnell.

[@imadethiscomment5663]

This was my favorite ATV yet! As a musician, I'm consciously aware of the mechanics for how tracks change to represent in-game situations. Repetition kills my soul. Yet another reason to be stoked for Star Citizen!

[@jeggyjager]

I think that the composers and guys working on audio deserve the spotlight. But ATV used to be a show with 30 minutes of game development news and 10 minutes of community spotlight and staff interview. Now it turned into a quick 4 minute development news sneak peek and a 26 minutes interview. Wouldn´t mind if it was the other way around.

[@mobiuscoreindustries]

Tomáš Jáger well it is because they don't have much to show that it is finished and not already shown.

[@yashizuko]

Really enjoyed this episode, music it's the first thing u think of something u have/made memories with!

[@sagewaterdragon]

I'm really liking this new format. Things like the language or the music that would normally be only talked about for a few minutes here and there are getting deep dives, and that's valuable - the most interesting thing about this project for me is watching its development.

[@YISP7]

Backer #86041 here. I'm in for such a long time, it's hard to not be hyped about any tiny bit of this game. Please let me taste SQ42 this year :')

[@dasfritzchen9059]

I love the music in Bishops Speech :3

[@michaelscaplis]

Loved the Connie commercial and it's music. Saw it for the first time on the big screen at the Gamescon event and just had to get me a Connie after seeing that!

[@DeMarcusBolds]

Why do so many people here feel so entitled? Let these people work! I'm loving the music! :) Keep up the great work, CIG!

[@sariusausereboslol3511]

This was a really good episode! I especially liked the part about HOW CIG employees came to their job! Really interesting and informative, keep up the great work :)

[@opreax2145]

This is why I watch ATV! You showed great things in this part!

[@mr3lion]

If the music on a background is an actual music from Squadron42, I need to say that this is astonishing! Great job!

[@ericaufdembrink1268]

Love the random photobomb at the 4 minute mark, super adorable awkward moment. Guy walks into frame, realizes filming is going on, then goes stiff and walks out the frame.

[@Vevvev8]

loving the looks of the planets so far. keep up the good work and can't wait to see them in 3.0. As for the music it is really nice to listen to and now I know why. thank you.

[@kekistaniattackhelicopter2242]

I love listening to people talking with passion about what they do. I am one of those few that can really appreciate impact that music has. I've watched Bishop clip countess times because of how great music in it is.

[@sondrex76]

The music in this episode was really great, which was fitting, considering what they were talking about.

[@T30Almighty]

That Brian Chambers part was so good, really good audio, info and visuals. Calm, cool and collected bringing us the good stuff. Audio stuff was very interesting and I wish we could listen to more of it.

[@Scias]

Thanks for shedding some light on the musicians. It's tough trying to write music for a game, really appreciate it

[@joos3D]

Great episode. Sounds like the sound team is making nice progress with the dynamic system, love the music.

[@bsgove]

Constellation trailer music sounded like it was pulled straight from 2001.

[@sgt_s4und3r54]

This actually kinda makes me anxious to get my soundtrack. Music plays a very large part of connection to the worlds in which we play. Well done CIG.

[@ShapeshifterOS]

The music for the Bishop senate speech was beautifully done and I enjoy watching the ship commercials too. My favs are the Freelancer, Cutlass and Polaris commercials. Can't wait for more Squadron 42 stuff!

[@paulbarlow9981]

First time I've watched a full episode for a while. Great to see the biomes and weather systems coming along, and also great to see Geoff talking about his music and the system. Good episode.

[@spartasmr4934]

god,the sq42 story will be like the mostamazing epic space story ever justwith the music it is a goodway in the right direction and dawn i want planet landing now lol

[@Lommyism]

I love the music and this brought a tear to the eye. Thanks, loved this update.

[@zanellitivity]

Thanks, Lommyism!

[@RossTregenza]

Geoff's music is amazing! We're working with him to try and create the most dynamic, evolving music system ever.

[@Wiborg-jy6ro]

Great update from the vegetation. Can´t wait to see the planets with all that LIFE. I totally agree: Wing Commander is such a great game! It was very interesting to hear all the background story about the music.

[@supralevamentum223]

Everything the environment team is doing is spot on, I love it.

[@Chevifier]

3:46 XO that patch of grass with tree cemitry is beautiful.

[@MrButuz]

Best ATV yet! I love music, I love mixing desks, I love PMC monitors, I love Hanz Zimmer!

[@NoWacko]

it´s nice that they put the musicsystem in the background of the video so you can kind of hear what they are talking about in action :-D

[@damsonn]

Chris' renowned "you know" phrase seems highly contagious among his employees.

[@bigtemarifan]

Josh is on of my favs, love the way he explains things.

[@HiLoMusic]

I hope we see more exploration-centric stuff next episode

[@XkriskrossX]

Andrew M. That or more capital ship gameplay or damage model footage. I'd really like to see what happens when there's a catastrophic hull breach :D

[@HiLoMusic]

Josh Friedman Same here - ship destruction is going to be awesome! I'd love to be able to sabotage ships from the inside as well.

[@thescifigraymer9516]

Finally we got information about the amazing but hidden world of music in Star Citizen!!

[@TheSirKnight]

If anyone from CIG is reading, just remember most people only comment to complain or moan. Tens of thousands of people who really enjoyed this video aren't writing comments, that's just how it is, but we're here nonetheless. Very interesting video, thanks again!

[@Jockr0x]

I'm actuallly quite happy that they put efforts in the music ! I don't understand why there's so much hate about it, I mean come on, music is what I mostly remember from a game and give me chills when I listen to it (i.e. Starcraft 1 or Rayman)

[@TheAdditionalPylons]

The first four minutes where Amazing, More of THAT please!!!

[@vladark138]

This is amazing ! Music is phenomenally important to build the mood. Often more important than anything else.

[@ClassyPlatypus]

Thank you for this deeper look into the music system and the Geoff's insights into composition. I've been very interested in the music and sound development of the game and this was an excellent addition to that.

[@josepheapen7690]

WOOW best around the verse in a long time !

[@ollierkul]

Why so much hate? Music in this game is amazing! Keep up the work guys, i enjoyed this. I especially love Star Citizen's main theme song.

[@Prohunter93]

I think the music already is amazing in game, can't wait to hear more!

[@nick_pappagiorgio]

The planetary tech looks great, keep up the good work CIG!

[@thejimd]

Great ep as always! More like this please

[@arianchandler9285]

Thank you so much for showing us this, I've always loved soundtracks and sound design in video games. This was fascinating.

[@simonpeart7981]

Loving the new ATV, it's great to see ATV advance through the months. Music sounds incredible and the procedural stuff is the best I've seen of any game, feels so alive.

[@anaboli_o]

Ooh! only the title of the video gave me goosepumbs

[@skrzym1]

Awesome insight into the music and the people behind it! Great stuff! Thanks!

[@Starphixx]

Wooow those moons and new plantlife, looks amazing EDIT: And the snow and weather improvements! Can always count on the germany office :D EDIT2: I also really love the music from the constellation commercial, it feels very Star Trek which is just the way i like it! To have some music like that play in the background as you explore a nebula or something like that would be amaaaazing for the feeling of exploring and boldly going where no man has gone before!

[@ethnine2692]

Hahahaha! The first bit of "news" we get concerning SQ42 and its the music.....hahahahahhh, you guys are funny. On a side note, I respect your hard work on this project and thank you.

[@ArcadyHolistic]

Geoff Zanelli. The "you know"'s are strong in this one.

[@zanellitivity]

I know... I know...

[@VoloxTV]

Geoff sounds like a cool guy and what I could hear of his music sounded great. But why not have one instance in the video where we can just listen to a "track" (I know in video games usually it's a bit more dynamic, but essentially, you can still present it as a track) to really appreciate the music. The music should be in the foreground, not in the literal background. The ATVs are slowly picking up again, but I feel the format changes still aren't really my cup of tea. It has potential to work very well, but also show, don't just tell! Thanks to CIG for your ongoing efforts to give us TBDSSE!

[@mobiuscoreindustries]

Volox TV you kind of can with the demo of the variation system. it is short but showcase the potential

[@VoloxTV]

mansuy adrien good point actually. But yeah, it's short.

[@amiththomas3884]

exactly. I was loving that transition demonstration but I could barely hear it.

[@hectordrake2882]

Can't wait to hear how it works out in the game. Good show!

[@paigel.8015]

Great episode, hoping to see more about the music in the future!

[@KaosABC123]

As a collector of sound tracks I loved this ATV! Sound plays such an important role to emotion and story. Play some Air Supply during combat. It changes from intense to comedy.

[@EucaBear]

This will be the world's first AAAA game. Amazing.

[@Amvienttz]

Awesome episode! Love dynamic music always have always will!

[@csmith9684]

music along with the sound in game is so important with immersion. we do need the option(s) of controlling the levels of loudness etc... ie the game Watch Dogs 2 you can't control the music volume and it drowns out all other sounds.