Star Citizen: Galaxy Update

[@nielsmichiels1939]

I don't know why ,but watching this guy's videos has a real calming effect.

[@phimseto]

Dude has a professional grade radio voice.

[@gilee1944]

Very true

[@nielsmichiels1939]

@@phimseto It's the same with Loud Guns.

[@ThatsBelowBasic]

aspect ratio

[@rivet92392]

I didn't think modularity was going to work any other way. People surprised it will take time or it must be at the same place I don't understand. I do hope if you have a big enough base, or a crucible type ship maybe you can do it yourself down the line.

[@dusk1947]

While I'm not an awaiting fan. And certainly won't be "purchasing" anything. I do adore there concept art. Their art team is exceptionally talented.

[@niklasdahlgren7641]

It seems to be two different kinds of modularity: - Swappable Pods [Carrack, Vanguard, Endeavor (more or less)] - Modular Interior [Avenger, Galaxy, Caterpillar, 600i, Retaliator] So some of them are more...juryrigged...and replacing large sections of ship interior for another function while others are more plug and play and drop off.

[@andreprado5953]

The value of the Galaxy for now is the ship it loans(Carrack) and the $5 CCu from Valkyrie(stable price of $ 375) to Galaxy , buying multiple CCUs would allow players to fix it´s price while aiming for more expensive ships as the Galaxy may increase in price in the future. In IAE 2952 there were great opportunities to lay several CCu warbond paths($5-15 new money) linking them with stable avaiable ships(in some cases with store credit) in RSI store, that may be used in the future to create your fleet, there were also a lot of concept ships that would arrive(like vulture) that after being delivered will increase in price, making them good choices to link to stable avaiable ships using store credit. In the case of increase price of the galaxy(next IAE), the best way to accumulate store credit would be further upgrade to another ship(s) with warbond CCus then melt. The fun of the multiple CCu paths rellies on the concept that people may experience several ships keeping only the ships they like, without breaking the bank.

[@Anachroschism]

While I do believe similar chassis ships should be modular, rather than separate ships (Aurora, Cutlass, Freelancer), I also feel that we will likely want multiple of those classes, if we use them regularly. I bought the galaxy for the refining module, I don't need medical or cargo, as I have other ships I prefer, able to do that already. However, if I wanted multiple modules, I'd probably buy multiple Galaxy class ships, so I didn't have the downtime and expense. As for the refinery, there will likely be other medium refinery ships, and I may end up replacing my Galaxy at that point.

[@Derzull2468]

"So I didn't have the ... expense" By buying 3 ships and 3 modules instead of 1ship 3 modules? Your math is wrong.

[@Anachroschism]

@@Derzull2468 downtime and expense of changing modules constantly. Would prefer to simply get another ship if I needed two modules frequently. In the end it's less hassle

[@Derzull2468]

​@@Anachroschism Why would you change modules constantly? The use case for modular ships is: "what do I want to play today? Today we're doing bunkers and could use medical support. Today we're doing a mining expedition, let's equip the refinery module." They already said the time to change modules will be short as the ship is made for it. If you're thinking about buying a modular ship multiple times, all equiped with different modules so you don't have to switch, why don't you buy specialized ships instead? That defeats the whole purpose of a modular ship. IMO: Apolo + C2 + Expanse > 3xGalaxy, even though the apollo and Expanse aren't even in the same size category.

[@Anachroschism]

@@Derzull2468 I don't agree that timers will be sh ort. It could take hours, and that's something that would need planning ahead for. Even if its 60 minutes, who wants to sit there waiting for that. It also comes down to persistence of what one wants to store in the ship, and those modules; do those items need removing first? Ship prep is going to be something quite important in the future of SC, in terms of what you carry for whatever mission or task you set for yourself and the crew. As for buying a dedicated ship; yes, there will be more options, but for some it's going to be simply preference. There's no reason why someone can't prefer the Galaxy, and buy multiple, as they do with other ships already. IT will come down to efficiency.

[@Derzull2468]

@@Anachroschism They said the timer will be short around the time of the ship Q&A don't remember when exactly and they didn't provide a number but 60minutes is not short. I'd be more inclined to think 5 minutes tops but at this point it's just guessing.

[@Lokisblade2]

love the look of this ship. Not going to buy this one this time tho, give me somthing to grind for

[@ph11p3540]

I was really tempted to buy this ship but I am spoiled for ships including a pair of Connie's, a Caterpillar, a Carrack, Expanse and Orion. Still I recommend this ship just for configuring as a permanent refinery or permanent medical center. I really wish the Galaxy had a factory or machine shop module but then again a 4rth mystery module was teased so I can only hope that is what the module choice will be. If not, I plan on converting my Caterpillar into a factory machine shop to escort an Orion, Reclaimer, Crucible and Pioneer around to do parts where non of the other ships work or are impractical from an efficiency standpoint. You oneself don't expect me to tractor beam bomb all 480 SCU of cargo into a Caterpillar

[@BizzMRK]

on the Galaxy's store page where you can see the modules it states "manufacturing and other modules at a later date" on the 4th card, so manufacturing is already confirmed for it. I really wished they made it slightly bigger and added a second small module slot in the completely unused frontpart of the ship though, so we could have a smaller secondary medbay or cargobay for example instead of being completely forced into one singular role. A ship of this size without even just a small sickbay with a single T3 medbed seems odd.

[@xXE4GLEyEXx]

Why not install it with a cargo container area by default? :| It seems like an oversight, which is actually a bit dumb.

[@CathrineMacNiel]

you can buy a cargo ship configuration from the get go. If you want to have all three modules and the galaxy; you would be stuck with one module at home at any given time.

[@xXE4GLEyEXx]

@@CathrineMacNiel AAaah, okay got it. And yeah, the only way around this would be a service to move modules/ships/parts around like in Elite, through transportation services, be it a timer, or a player mission.

[@CathrineMacNiel]

@@xXE4GLEyEXx I can certain see this, as we will get the Liberator that can ferry some vehicles and ships around; so why not a module as well.

[@BizzMRK]

@@CathrineMacNiel the liberator has rather limited space for cargo and we (and probably CIG aswell) don't know how big the disassembled modules are yet. They may even be these large 32 SCU containers we see on the Galaxy concept, which coincidentally would fit rather well into the galaxy's stock rear hangar 2 x 32 SCU cargo space, which could mean that the galaxy can carry 2 spare modules. It wouldn't make much sense for the Galaxy to not be able to transport its modules without the cargo module installed anyway.

[@cywulf4391]

Great relaxing voice! Based on this information, I feel the Carrack out performs the Galaxy in almost every way....time will tell!

[@Mike5Brown]

Yeah I have a CCU for it because I had the credit but not really interested in it. Not because of any new information form the QA but the fact that it only has one module. You are going to be rather specialized no matter what module you put in. The Caterpillar has 4 (much smaller) so you can mix and match.

[@BizzMRK]

especially considering all the unused deadspace in this ship. Make the completely cosmetic front nose slightly larger to fit even a small secondary modul which could be used as a small t3 medbay or a small refinery reactor which could have nice potential synergy with the planned manufacturing module. Not having even a single t3 medbed on a ship this size seems odd, with the only other option being turning the entire ship into a giant oversized hospital.

[@KaybeCA]

Coming from a former Elite player, the biggest temptation of this ship is that it's basically an Anaconda with a cool interior. Conda was easily the most loved ship in the game, so this caught my eye. I just started paying attention to SC recently, so I'm curious how much the concept or pre-sale pledge price for this is.

[@kira68200]

why was ? elite isn't online ?

[@AHinde]

Thanks, Law of the West!

[@forcommenting1017]

Why not a massive hangar module? Like a mini carrier or something?

[@acarrillo8277]

I think the hangar bay door not doubling as a ramp is the one thing I think is a big mistake.

[@ATigerShark]

Apparently it'd take too much space for its intended landing bay.

[@lunamaria1048]

That and I think a base Galaxy not having a default use for the big empty space where a module goes is also another big mistake.. I think it is a predatory move by CIG

[@adarkwind4712]

@@lunamaria1048what would be the point of the cargo module if you could use the “big empty space” how is that predatory? They said it would be a void if nothing was in there up front and sold it as such anyone who bought it bought it knowing that or didn’t do their research. How is that Predatory?

[@ATigerShark]

@@lunamaria1048 Yeah. When in doubt, default to cargo because its a big empty space that isn't useless.

[@BizzMRK]

@@lunamaria1048 well, its a shady business practice but at the very least we can buy the ship and just get the modules ingame, which are probably rather cheap anyway. Their argument (excuse) for it was that defaulting to a cargo module would "punish" people that buy different loadouts because the uninstalled modules would take up space and have to be transported.

[@flamebreaker7318]

This popped up for me then got privated and now I finally get to watch

[@skyvenrazgriz8226]

Well this has become less modularity and more there are three versions of the ship, but you can go to a shipwreight swap between em. As expected

[@hughmungus3552]

what is the "flyable date" for the people who have bought it ?

[@HellSolo]

I've been waiting for this review, this channel. Ty WEST!

[@Macskinny76]

I can understand the hype about the ship and modularity, but the thing that kills me is that they said and tried with with two other ships and went "ghost", left on read. On top of that, we probably won't see this until Q2 2023. That's what really makes me loose some respect for CIG, and that's only because they throw out the "hype bus" and then discontinue what they're working on for us at mentioning. Why not the M50 and Retalitor as mentioned when modularity was first mentioned, why a whole new damn ship that we have to wait on?

[@swankyorc7366]

It's not about waiting, it's about making money.

[@Hawx32]

Quick sneaky reupload to correct the XXL/XXS mistake ahah, good job ! Have a like ;)

[@lawofthewestgaming]

; )

[@SpaceAdmiral792t]

@@lawofthewestgamingwhat kind of Recording Microphone do you use?

[@SpaceAdmiral792t]

@@lawofthewestgamingWhat kind of Setup do you use for Recording?

[@VulpesChama]

The Galaxy is the Cutty of its class of ships. Technically for the average group of players, the classic 2-5 friend group, the progression path of ships would be from single-seater multi-role, to cuttlass/freelancer to Constellation/Corsair and now to the Galaxy. I think players, especially veterans, unterestimate how useful the (Cargo-)Galaxy actually is. Not as combat ship, not as dedicated trader, not as mission runner, but as a daily-driver for a group of players who stick together and just want to play, without big org or something. People are stuck in this overcompetitive way of thinking that items/ships (depending on game) have to be better to be useful. I don't think that the specialization modules would've been necessary. A combined cargo+ small medical bay would have sufficed. And no, you won't often, if at all, switch between the modules back and forth. You'll very likely grab the one module that fits your and your groups playstyle. And again, I doubt that veterans understand who this ship is for. It's not for large-org players. It's for those small friend-groups who want to do either something specialized or multi-role. A bit of everything. Not to excell at anything, but be able to do everything.

[@spider0804]

If you want a smaller modular ship for a group of friends fly the Caterpillar.

[@skylerpolendina7517]

@@spider0804 but the caterpillar is significantly less defended. And uglier.

[@VulpesChama]

@@spider0804 The Cat is a completely different class of ship. It's not about the modularity, which will be barely used anyway, it is what you can do with it once set up. Multi-Role is not meaning that a ship is modular, it means the ship can be used for different things without changing components or parts.

[@spider0804]

@@skylerpolendina7517 The galaxy has a single shield, and the arcs on the coverage of the turrets basically mean any fighter would attack from the back and probably be ok. There is no point talking about how defended it is when the devs have said the Galaxy is basically a coffin in combat.

[@spider0804]

@@VulpesChama By your definition the galaxy isn't very multi role then because ot change the role you will have to change a major component.

[@DreadRaider]

Short Sweet and to the Point. *tip of the hat.

[@BergenDev]

Good looking boat

[@SuperTomMillar]

whats the into music he uses ? ive tried finding it but to no avail :(

[@Zoulrage]

i hope they add a hangar module so it can be a mini carrier, also a drone repair module for logistics support... maybe a sensor module to provide a fleet scanning and sensor report... i hope stealth and sensor gameplay will become a thing... could have a gun module to add a few more turrets or torp/missiles for more combat focus...

[@kishkin8743]

If they add a salvage and repair module I'll buy this ship

[@BizzMRK]

@@kishkin8743 technically you can already repair ships in 3.18 with the handheld salvage/repair multitool attachment. Just need the materials for it onboard.

[@C0LL0SSUS]

Yup. Still glad I went with the perseus instead.

[@kolman3178]

here is a content series idea, building a org from a in universe perspective like what ships would a mining org use and why etc.

[@OmegablueWolf]

so like when they add Titan suits does any one else really want a Titan Suit drop bay/armory/Med Bay module ?

[@SpaceTomato]

I don't know how to get in touch with you lol Where can I send you a message??

[@SpaceTomato]

@@lawofthewestgaming Gotcha, thanks!

[@timsgta]

Will the Galaxy be available for pledge, again at Invictus 2953, you think?

[@robertschumacher2707]

I think the medical Galaxy may be better than the Apollo in at least 2 ways: The ability to carry a C8R Pisces in the hangar and the fact the Orion's module has 3x tier 3, 2x tier 2, and 1 tier 1 medical beds, where the Apollo can only carry two of those 3 tiers at any one time.

[@justarandomdude1925]

Thanks

[@riosasin3086]

other youtuber have a bright idear that the galaxy should have hydrid module for it size. half medical half passager or half cargo half refinery the efficiency maybe scale down but true to nature of modular. untill then galaxy may worth it, if not just back to station call other specifical role ship cheaper and make less or any different

[@deltaecho2621]

I saw that vid. It’s an intriguing proposal to split the modules down the middle, allowing a Galaxy to mix and match different Port and Starboard module halves.

[@riosasin3086]

@@deltaecho2621 CIG properly won't split module like that either monetization or game design prespective im afraid, need to fit to designed door way and sell as full scale module to justify the price for each module

[@Shanex250]

I wouldn't call this negative information, it has actually made the ship make more sense. Before when they talked about moldularity they never really explained the cost and how/where it would be done, nor how much time it would take. This description adds more weight to the capability of the ship cause it means the modules will do a lot more than people think they do, and keeping a certain configuration has more weight to it. It has certainly made the ship cooler for me and affirm that the devs haven't forgotten the idea that swapping out ships, rearming, refueling, and loading things down the line is meant to be a more weighted function and take time. It's no fun when your ship can just be in and out of stations. Yes the game as it is right now kind of needs the quickness because of the "bugs" but even I don't really feel the need for everything to be fast, just to make sense, and when things start becoming that way then features like this will be impeccable.

[@TheStorm357]

Thanks for the info. I will be hard passing on the Galaxy. It looks great but its a loot piñata. One large shield on a ship that size designed to be carrying high value cargo in two out of three of its module setups... nope ty.

[@andrewmaughan1205]

When I initially learned about the Galaxy, I was hyped and hopeful. It looks great. Unfortunately, since then, CIG has turned it into a good looking bag of jelly belly, jelly beans where each of the modules could be really good, but leave you with an unpleasant aftertaste. The ship itself isn't worth half its cost without any of the modules. So I'm no longer interested in this vehicle. It's probably why CIG took so long to put out the Q&A, and why a lot of these will probably be melted after their proud new owners read it.

[@deltaecho2621]

Thanks Law!

[@harrycross9359]

I would like to see a tour of the hammer head

[@PH03NIX96]

Bad ship is bad for the sake of being able to do multiple things bad. - RSI Galaxy It's almost as bad as the Roc DS

[@ricky6608]

I’d buy it if there was a combat module like a torpedo bay

[@Derzull2468]

It's not a combat ship. Get a Polaris.

[@ricky6608]

@@Derzull2468 not on sale is it mate Maybe CIG is out of stock on their jpegs

[@skylerpolendina7517]

@@ricky6608 Polaris went on sale the same time this did during RSI day.

[@ricky6608]

@@skylerpolendina7517 I didn’t have the game yet

[@skylerpolendina7517]

@@ricky6608 then wait until May for Invictus week???? Idk mate this just sounds like you don't know the sale schedules. May/June is Invictus when they sell Defense Contract ships (military ships) IAE is every November when each manufacture has a day that their ships become available. Starting from that manufactures day you can buy their ships until the end of the Expo.

[@clint7247]

I do hope that CIG ends up giving the Galaxy's crew section a small medbay with at least a tier 3 bed. A ship of its size really should have one. Additionally CIG had discussed only being able to transport the modules as whole. This is ridiculous considering that large industrial components are transported in pieces all the time in present day and I don't see why we would somehow lose that capability in the future.

[@USIGNLOOFID]

I think large ships should have many smaller modules, rather than one single module. This lack of versatility makes the Galaxy a buy in game for me. Even a Retaliator has 2 modules, giving you more flexibility.

[@Derzull2468]

There is no medical bed in the Hammerhead, Nautilus, Reclaimer, Crucible, Liberator, Pioneer, A2, C2, M2, Caterpillar, Endeavor without the hospital module, Hull C, Hull D, Hull E, Starfarer, Starfarer Gemini, Orion and Perseus. These ships are similar size or bigger. Why should the Galaxy have a medical bed on top of the module? Only dedicated medical ships, long range exploration and capital combat ships have beds. The Galaxy is in none of these categories except with the module, at which point, it does have a bed.

[@esdee108]

That’s just turning it into a discount Carrack without having module; they’re not standalone facilities either, the ship isn’t a discount Pioneer either. The ship has plenty of built in utility already, and there are more modules to come.

[@clint7247]

@@Derzull2468 And I think moving forward ships of that size should. Something that I've come to realize is that multicrew operations are going to have many opportunities for injury. If Death of Spaceman is to work properly, larger multicrew ships should have a tier 3 medical bed on board at the very least. The Galaxy Refinery or Manufacturing gameplay is going to come with many injuries and not having at least a tier 3 medbed onboard is a mistake.

[@USIGNLOOFID]

@@esdee108 That is making it better. Buying the modules doesn't make it discount at all, it's not cheap. If you are on a cargo run and you need to help someone with medical needs, Galaxy is utterly useless. Go to Pyro, remote and with few opportunities to change modules, you need to go to a shipyard to swap modules. Carrack will just divert to give medical aid, making it much better. Caterpillar will probably also be more versatile as it can swap out sections, not just one module.

[@TheModelOmega]

The more I learn about this gorgeous ship, the more I hate it.

[@tommyg2660]

I’ll stick with the Carrack🤷🏾‍♂️

[@Auldus]

This ship has one massive pitfall for me. It is supposed to compete with the Carrack in many ways. But the Carrack is a clear winner in group expeditions. You give up so much when selecting the galaxy. It is slightly smaller than the carrack as well. And it doesn't have a launch bay for a pisces. It should have fixed pilot weapons and be more nimble than the Carrack to compensate for the utility loss. they claim it's the big brother of the Connie but can't even operate as one in the slightest. I am this close to pulling the trigger on ordering one of these.

[@peterjensen3559]

I knew one day staying through to my name with benefit me it just happened

[@WalkingLegacy]

This ship is largely garbage and in my opinion, CIG testing how much they can get away with nickle and diming supporters. It looks GREAT. I love the aesthetics and visual appeal of the ship. I can't help but think overall, it's not worth the money (when compared to other ships). I am a fan of the modular approach, but not the charging per module.

[@BizzMRK]

while it is shady at the very least they sold it without modules so you can just buy them ingame instead rather than paying a premium on an already extremely overpriced ship. Most people probably just see it as a relatively cheap Carrack loaner until the Galaxy gets implemented in the game in 2035.

[@ComfortsSpecter]

This is cool… But it feels like it has it way too many downsides for everybody that would want to use it at all for anything Bruh? I could just work a 9-5 Hercules space trucker job and keep getting paid Only spend my money on vanity and roleplay stuff like cool yachts and fighter jets This was interesting but where’s the sale after the hook?

[@LazzyRabbit]

ty

[@colin_mr]

So even with the cargo module you only get 128 scu of cargo space. Might as well just get a Freelancer Max with 122, or the little brother Connie taurus with 174? scu.

[@momakkjj9502]

The cargo module adds 512 scu if I’m not mistaken

[@colin_mr]

@@momakkjj9502 I hope so, but unfortunately documentation says 2 x 32 SCU containers.

[@CathrineMacNiel]

@@colin_mr the documentation/sale page of the cargo module explicitly states that it adds 512 SCU.

[@momakkjj9502]

@@colin_mr the 2x32 scu I believe is for the base version of the galaxy, as the base can only hold 64scu in total

[@쪼꼬매서쪼꼬미-p8n]

업그레이드 키트만 사두길 잘했네

[@themeddite]

I picked up the Galaxy because I have a lot put into this game. Considering I?have a Javelin and Idris.

[@TheSiriusEnigma]

The main points: unlike the Carrack, the odyssey, the 600i, it only has 2 decks. It is, literally, HALF the size of a Carrack internally. Just like the old 600i. I think this ship is an old concept that will need to be reworked intensively. Any ships the size of a Carrack should be 3 decks, not 2. I’m also talking about the Polaris.

[@BoogerLeader]

Why does a ship NEED 3 decks? That feels like an odd requirement. I hate the 3 decks because it feels overly huge and convoluted. 2 decks makes everything so much easier, plus it's a much thinner ship.

[@JDog_Unchained]

What is the point of this ship? It sounds like anything it can do, another ship can already do it better. I guess they just wanted to make more money by selling ships in pieces instead of one piece. Imagine if you went to a car dealership and they told you the car you just bought didn't come with seats, those cost extra

[@gyratingwolpertiger6851]

The point is flexibility. Eg my orgs looking at using one as a mobile refinery/security ship for Pyro mining runs. Ie acts as both refinery and security in one ship and then subsequently an armed cargo hauler for sale runs.

[@Fractal379]

Can you can imagine the furore if the Galaxy was designed to out-perform specialist ships? 'Specialist' ships, as the term implies, should perform better than modular ones. To those on a budget the Galaxy could represent relatively good value, and settle them into a position where they have no pressing need to upgrade to ship X, or to buy ships Y & Z. The Carrack loaner is also very persuasive, and the ship is visually appealing to many. The car seat analogy seems to have zero to little relevance to the Galaxy & its modules.

[@gyratingwolpertiger6851]

@@Fractal379 Same for it being bundled with a default module. Not having one off the bat means you can go for the ones you specifically want instead of having to pay the extra for a module which you may have no use or desire for.

[@AA-wd5hy]

So in general, Galaxy is not really a useful ship.😢

[@CathrineMacNiel]

with a module it is though. It can be a refinery deck ship, a hospital ship or a cargo ship.

[@gibboau85]

While I still think the carrack has got it, It’s not by much. The power creep is real. They need to make some improvements to the carracks weapons to justify the price. The M2, this, and the misc leave the carrack for dead.

[@lazylime8046]

Second?

[@speedywise]

First?