Star Citizen's Idris Event was a MESS

Star Citizen's latest event made a LONG AWAITED ship flyable, but actually participating in the event was a NIGHTMARE for players...
Thank you to @SaltEMike for his footage!

[@Chooie6]

A correction they did a few waves of sales on the P but the contest was for an M

[@LevelCapGaming]

thanks got it mixed up.

[@Jewifer333x2]

They need to just let the thing go on sale for a weekend. Some of us have the money but no time to sit there and hit F5 and hope we get first dibs.

[@YaBoi-vj5tl]

When are their events not a mess.

[@YouTubetail]

😂

[@tarakivu8861]

Always a load test, so always on edge :D

[@FunkThompson]

They have had some that have worked better than others; rarely on the first go, but, I mean... that's how these things work. That said, I'm not 100% behind their plans, either. Two steps forward, two steps back in a lot of cases.

[@SuperMontsta]

Seriously. I didn't even bother with this event. Video just started and I can guess issues. Desync, lag, glitched NPCs, 40k screen. The usual.

[@Jason-fv5my]

@@FunkThompsonthe saying is 1 step forward 2 steps back lol

[@BTPDano]

This event was a hard bust. I attempted to put content together for the challenge, but after ~15hrs of just trying to find the event, I was left with the opinion that the event was only for a select few twitch streamers and those lucky enough to be on their servers.

[@orvyasis]

yup. fuckin CIG...

[@Shinssue]

As members of Wacko(Terado corpo), most Idris was spot and protect when he wasn't even here. This event was clearly for active corpos, having 10~20 humping between servers hunting for the ship, he was mostly call drop shot videos.

[@tsarrite]

As a mainly PVE space trucker type of player, just let me skill up and invest in NPC crew that would be good at manning turrets and other stations.

[@Rooboy-619]

I truly hope 3.23 will be a huge game changer because I'm completely fed up with the amateurish rollout of these patch updates and the mismanagement of, supposedly, big events.

[@AlexTSilver]

ahh yes yes, the next patch will be the huge game changer for sure!

[@marks7502]

SC the BEST GAME OF 2213

[@solventob]

Haven't you heard? CIG is planning for it to release when the year in reality matches the year in game. We can keep looking forwards to that. Forever

[@Uncanny_Mountain]

Edge lords are so clever Can't wait to play their perfect game that doesn't exist

[@solventob]

Looks like CIG's dropping their newest promotion: 'White Knight: The Art of Edging.' Defend those delays, earn your badges, and trade them in for the most elusive in-game item: a glimpse of the release date! Coming soon! But only if you can Quantum Travel.

[@FuriousImp]

There is a reason no one else in the industry is attempting what CIG is attempting. It's hard. Very hard. Something you edge lords don't understand. You've never challenged yourself. Just bitching about anything and everything online.

[@Otto_K]

I've never been so hyped to be so hyped!

[@666okano]

heres to another 20 years boys

[@RN1441]

The first time I got really mad at what was going on was watching Chris raising a toast to ten years of development and then he added 'and the next ten years of development'. I'm glad he's happy to collect a check for decades while the buggy tech demo struggles on way overdue, but I'd rather they actually deliver on their long overdue promises sooner rather than later.

[@SuperMontsta]

​@@RN1441Seriously. They be working on such small details when the overall thing is a mess. Do the BIG picture first. Put in the systems, missions, ships, all gameplay. Then work on making the eyes more realistic and hair blow in the wind. Chris does it backwards. It's why he was kicked off of Freelancer, so it could finish.

[@980tibaby6]

@@RN1441 Dude was a washed up, used car salesmen. What did you expect from him not being a scammer?

[@scrapyardwars]

I'm out this year and will not be following this regularly as I have for the last 13 years if they fail to meet the promises made by CR for this year.

[@Uncanny_Mountain]

Look at all the experts who haven't made jack shit 😂

[@0pTicaL]

By the time this game is released humans will be traveling space irl.

[@Nayrock]

Casual/Solo players unable to win a massive multicrew ship that requires a large group to fly? Because they are being beaten by large groups who would actually be able to effectively use it? Oh no...

[@BegForMyMercy]

Let's play a game. Let's have you capture the idris, and let's allow the folks to quantum for hours on end with no way to interdict it, and waste everyone's quantum fuel. Also if you don't have a mantis on your team, good luck!! Btw, this event wont exist in 99% of your servers/ games. But when it does, the idris can stop quantum and respool and fly off to 80million km away and turn around to a different jump point. ARC1 to MICL1 is 15million, and ARC1 to magnus is 79 million, the distances are so vast that getting a mantis to catch up or in front of the idris is physically near impossible due to math... Mantis has to get within 20km? GOOD Luck Oh god the Master modes thing? Yeah very much needed, does it remove skill? Not at all. We've had MULTIPLE flight models in game. 2.6 was the best in my opinion but out of all of them dog fighters were Over powered in a disgusting way. So much so that an Arrow can solo a fully crewed HH with skilled players and destroy it. Giving bigger health pools and shields to larger ships doesn't solve the problem because turrets wont land shots. Further more giving aim assist to turret gunners wont help either because the turning speed on the turret and the pilot may turn at random on you so you are limited to what the pilot does. SHIP SPEEDS IN THE GAME ARE TOO FAST. Everything needs to slow down. Turrets are useless ever since they came out on the star farer. The HH can't even do it's role, and aim assist for turret gunners is a WRONG approach too because where's the skill in that? Dog fighters were never meant to 1v3 or 1v12... that's stupid. Having to shift between power, shields, and guns adds too much complexity and never made sense the new flight model was dumb except for 1% who enjoyed it? Bye, if you're upset with that. Chris Roberts said it should take 3 hornets to take on one connie, that was always intended to be rebalanced. They need to tune the game for turrets first, then they can "up the speed on fighters" to where it is fair, because turret gameplay, multicrew ships need to be valid. You should get more bonuses when working together on a single ship, and there should be more skill involved there. Flying in an ARROW should have no chance in hell to take on anything larger than a heavy fighter, and even then they should fail. Vanguards were useless forever! Ever since 3.0 Vanguards were pointless. Sabres were out of the game in this last flight model. And these guys are crying because now 1v1 are slow? They're working on archtypes. So they can tune ships to have intended flight models, this is a great approach, so is adding gimbals to turrets. Give MM time, stop gas lighting people for MM and saying get good, because that's ignorant. Adapt to the new situation, provide sincere feedback and understand the game is NOT just dog fighting. What good are 99% of the rest of the ships in game that have turrets going to actually be if everything gets swatted by a gladius? That's why 90% of the player base left after 3.0 in the first place. Because the flight models went to shit.

[@YourArmsGone]

I completely agree. Something like the HH should be able to at bare minimum take on 10 L fighters at once, since that's the crew requirements of a HH. Realistically it should be able to handle almost twice that number of L fighters since that's its entire role.

[@BegForMyMercy]

right?@@YourArmsGone , but right now we got Avenger one telling folks that Turrets should be auto aim and the cone fire should require 2-3 turrets to fire in the direction of one fighter and he thinks "that is fair gameplay for the scrub noobies who don't want to learn how to play" A1 literally says multiple times that people who don't like the current flight model are noobs who can't learn and the tutorial is weak, etc like we weren't here playing this game before he backed the game either... these folks are gas lighting everyone and it's horrible. I want multicrew ships to have skill and actually be terrifying to other large ships and small ships. Chris roberts NEVER intended for 2-3 dog fighters to destroy everything.. Dude in the current flight model, you could literally take a single ares or an f8c and kill a NPC idris.. ffs... The range on the large turret guns should be absolutely hitting light fighters from 5 -10x the distance the dog fighters range should be. It SHOULD be the dog fighters have no chance alone and they should require a SWARM to even consider approaching large/cap ships. They got it backwards.

[@Uncanny_Mountain]

If a computer game breaks your brain like this you should just go outside

[@GUNNER67akaKelt]

Having a countdown timer and a schedule when the idris would show up could be a big help.

[@leiden5110]

What is the background music from like 7:30 onwards

[@vik12D]

What tier med bed was in the medbay and does it work?

[@whamo_3]

Wouldn't it be awesome if maybe, just a hypothetical here, there could be a way in which these priority missions don't occur/show in mobiglass until there are certain conditions met by players in a server. Maybe a number of missions in a different chain have to be completed first - these could have different objectives, like a first stage being different server rooms and NPCs being raided for coordinates that get uploaded, which then move into a new mission with those coordinates pointing to NPC bounties in ships... then maybe you have deliveries from there, or repeats of other phases at new specific locales like comms arrays or SPK. Ideally you have more 'dynamic' elements than that like specific RNG item drops have to be looted, or perhaps X number of players with CS have to be at a site for a mission to spawn, but this is a decent framework for a basic 'dynamic event' we'll call it. Give it a cool name like 'overdrive' and... why the hell wasn't this the basis for THIS event, again? It wasn't ready/built to go specifically into XenoThreat so when they started building the 'Capture the Idris' mission they couldn't go back or make it so they could spawn either/or mission off the 'Overdrive' chain? Instead, we get an absolute cluster where initially it only spawns via devs like F8 Platinum event, then the event is spawned generally across servers with AI but in atmo where AI hasnt been programmed to know how to fly the Idris out of atmo, and now is just spawned by devs initially then handed off to AI apparently? All the while 90+% of the community can't find the event to participate because servers fill up as soon as missions pop/Idris is found, and multiple email campaigns are still just firing off saying 'don't miss out' as players try and fail to participate? Really learned a lot from F8 Plat event CIG, keep it up marketing team!

[@yonakatsu4878]

Wouldn't it be awesome if maybe, just hypothetically, they released more than a few planets and a couple ships in 6 years? ohh....... that's their current track record isn't it. 1200 employees btw definitely not family and friends getting seated pretty.

[@DarkMoonZoroark]

@@yonakatsu4878 how long has it taken for GTA6? Hmm. They had a full dev team ready to go as well where as CIG built up and learned its mistakes over these years. Marketing team is definitely trying to do something interesting but still have a lot to learn.. it’s really shitty. If it wasn’t as hard to find it would be better, it’s sorta to be expected that a large group or org would be capturing and controlling one of these things though, takes one to legitimately fly them

[@yonakatsu4878]

@@DarkMoonZoroark GTA5 was fucking huge AND for a long time (not sure if it still holds true) but it was the most expensive game ever to make. Ofc gta 6 is taking a while but unlike SC, it won't be even half as desolate. I love SC, the idea of it. I've been a backer since 2016 and followed the project much sooner. Since fucking DAYMAR, they've added like 3 planets? Each only has one hub and only one has an orbital station. 6 years, that and like SOMEHOOOWWWW less ships have been finished than LANDING ZONES. Their entire business model was made off those ships and SQ42 which has been delayed year after year.

[@dashbolt101s]

I'm new to the game and I 100% agree with what you say about skill and skill gap. I tried to do some Star Citizen pvp dogfight and it just feels absolutely *impossible* to even do the slight damage to an experienced player. I also think that as you said, the gimball damage reduction would be good. As for the "1 experienced player against a group of lower skilled players using gimballs" - I think it should work that way. Even if you are a very good fighter you can't expect to outmatch a full squadron of light fighter if you are solo and piloting a light fighter too. I also think it's good that light fighter will not be as powerful as they are right now, because all the fights I've tried so far against people of similar skill than me (meaning fights where I could actually do some damage and have a chance to win) always ended-up becoming endless jousting back & forth with people flying away to recharge shields before pushing again. Even with a fully crewed Hammerhead we lost against two very good light fighters. Being the best pilot in the verse shouldn't mean being absolutely unbeatable no matter which ship you fly.

[@alexk7173]

agreed, light fighter meta needs to die, no point in even looking at a medium fighter, even for pvp against huge ass ships like you mentioned the HH, why would I take an inferno when I can take a hornet and easily handle a HH

[@Zeoran]

Master mode is a huge change to non-ship combat as well, that's what has everyone worried. Losing our shields just because we want to go fast or use quantum drive, is a big freaking deal. And I still have a huge feeling that they're massively underestimating how much they're screwing over non-combat players with this new mode.

[@FuriousImp]

Good thought. I'm curious to see what they came up with before I judge though.

[@Zeoran]

I hope CIG has an emergency parachute cord for Master Modes to UNDO the changes in case things go as tits up as many people (including myself) are expecting. Not only does it hurt 1v1 dogfights, which are the majority of ship combat, but its also screwing over NON combat players who lose their shields entirely & we dont even have armor to help balance it out.

[@forcommenting1017]

It's also bad for squadron battles because you don't have a chance of you get focus fired. There's no dynamic engagement, just slugfests. Slugfest make sense for cap ships but not fighters.

[@DarkMoonZoroark]

@@forcommenting1017 I think this is where they are struggling and they will continue to struggle until we get armour and proper weapon balance. From light fighter 1v1 to massive squadron and org battles it’s a pretty different experience and trying to balance it so everyone on that range is happy is pretty much an impossible task. I’m sure they are working to get as many happy as possible but I feel like some sacrifices will need to be made in the meantime. I don’t think the old flight model would be good for this range almost at all with capital ships in mind. Master Modes is closer, it just needs time and to be tuned

[@cygnuspmc]

All the server-wide events are goat rodeos. This event is about showcasing capital ships, testing and data gathering for big ships with lots of players on board, and generally understanding their impact on player and server performance. It's hype on the outside for sure, the tease of a prize is just to encourage more participation. Frankly I'm tired/over any server wide event until replication layer separation is implemented at a minimum. The fact that they are releasing the DCs with more of the exact same gameplay loops is in general adding tedium, although that does come with their ability to gather more data on how to improve things - the stuff we want (big ships, big fps, cool UIs etc.) is all coming soon, but the systems behind them are going to be the same, or overly simplistic (like MM) until they get to the point where they understand the full picture. It's really annoying, but holding the line, as they will (probably) eventually get there.

[@pekjoek]

well.. guess i'll wait another 10 yrs to log in

[@RN1441]

Let's just hope that the easily amused keep pouring $350,000 USD PER DAY in to keep development going for that decade... I closed my wallet after they failed to hit their original SQ42 release date in 2014, and every day that choice feels more and more right.

[@pekjoek]

@@RN1441yeah, same. been back a few times, and is't all just jank.

[@YourArmsGone]

Turrets are a mess on every ship right now (except maybe heavy fighters) They just aren't effective enough to be worth the effort. They need a serious buff to accuracy, range, etcetera. Basically light and medium fighters should get slaughtered if they attempt to approach a HH or Idris.

[@BegForMyMercy]

exactly why they did MM approach, I remember my whole PVP org getting upset when they changed from 2.6 to 3.0, then 3.0 flight model to this current garbage of switching from power/shields/guns, I'm glad they nuked the current flight model, we lost 90% of the player base to this, now the existing "1%" of dog fighters are mad saying "get good" while they are good at piloting but SUCK at aiming, and are mad that ship speeds are slowing down, yet we need the ship speeds to slow the fk down so turret gameplay exists for idk 90% of the game which has mutlicrew and turrets? This is why I hate spectrum too, people post good comments and bad comments and it's always the negative ones that get the fking limelight.

[@AHHHHHHHH21]

Man, the more i see about this game the more i want it

[@Dustygoodz]

After 2 hrs of playing it youll wanna wait a little or even a lot longer to play it again. Wayyyy too many bugs

[@georgek2574]

@@Dustygoodz honestly bugs aside it does have an experience no other game on the market can provide. Bug aside of course lol

[@BegForMyMercy]

it's sick for sure

[@AgentXRifle]

Bugs included! I never had an irrational fear of elevators before this game and now I take the stairs everywhere!

[@BegForMyMercy]

@@AgentXRifle lol

[@bingbong6422]

I think I might be dead before a full release..

[@Dustygoodz]

2098 release date. Your grandkids will be playing this game 😂

[@SuperMontsta]

I know people that have heavily invested in the game and have indeed died already.

[@tsarrite]

@@Dustygoodz They might be playing the just gone gold install on their real space ship while cruising to the Mars base.

[@kajmak64bit76]

With SQ42 being feature complete and in polishing phase I can see Star Citizen being 1.0 release in next like 5 years These next years... year or 2 from now... WILL be absolute game changers Like the changes to Star Citizen will be INSANE... i'm talking about having a couple of years worth of development packed into a single or 2 years Ratio would probably be like 2 or 3 years to 1 So 3 years of dev packed into 1 So basically Stat Citizen will change and get much better... a LOT in the next 2 years Plenty of SQ42 devs are now on SC and porting over stuff from SQ42 Server Meshing will get in and be expanded ( this a huge one ) They will get massive funding boost from SQ42 sales when it releases Which means Star Citizen will springboard jump almost instantly Huge fast forwarding of Star Citizen... it's gonna be insane

[@MR_E-00]

MM is the harbinger to the Content Creator Warlord Meta and this Idris event is just the beginning. Better hold onto your favorite creators pocket and hope they are generous and forgiving dictators. All will eventually bow to Test Squadrons 20k lmao.

[@Nayrock]

CIG needs to balance for the 99% of players in pilot skills and not the 1% who want intense skill requirements. It's an MMO, not a flight Sim tournament.

[@Nookie94]

“Enlisted” (got had) in 2015, tried to join most events since then, have never had a single event without a crash / 30k / falling out of my ship mid flight. And therefore have never been able to / had the patience to participate. Glad the tradition continues!

[@davidefarinella6396]

o7 people

[@Ash_Rackham]

My org Charlie defence company (CDC) took control of and fought the entire server with help from Arc_Vr and his lawbreaker crew. it was an intense battle that lasted over half an hour. It was there best fun I have had in this game for years. Charlie was here. there was 12 of us against a whole server.

[@BCGsports]

Serious question…. Like for real this time, which event they do ever work? Ever? I would love to know.

[@watsica3172]

Jumprown ghost hollow and many more its easy to only point out mistake

[@gregmoulton260]

CIG should have released the Idris a week or two after the event. This was a slap in the face to those that own the ship.

[@maxgamesst1]

What do you mean? The ship isn't released it's only in the event

[@bdo7765]

@@maxgamesst1 Exactly. They SHOULD release it. Some people shelled out a LOT of money a LONG time ago.

[@GHost-jj4su]

Light fighters won't have auto aim. They said only turrets will have auto gimbals, you will have only fixed and manual with pilot weapons

[@BboyCorrosive]

0:35 *record scratch* "they weren't"

[@nuclearscarab]

"Your ambitions outweighed you talent." Basically sums up CIGs crazy complicated, deep, involved events that they put in the game, when the game isn't even ready for a simple event.

[@BloodCorps]

Like a glove!

[@hikikomorphi]

I played Star Citizen for the first time when they had the free weekend a while back. I watched a tutorial from a youtuber on how to fly and shoot and I was off exploring in no time flat. Maybe instead of making the game/flying/shooting easier they should seek ways to make the game more accessible. AKA give the players in depth tutorials that way those who are curious can find out in game without having to rely on the community.

[@DummyThinksThoughts]

Virgil's reaction to A1's video is the best. 2 opposing opinions at once from 2 vets that are top at pvp

[@charlesrobertson2979]

when is the 3.23 patch coming?

[@hectorheathcote9495]

Streamer only event that players who aren't part of a large org have absolutely no chance of participating in. I'll stick to bunkers.

[@Meta-Space-TV]

The 1VS1 player combat will almost disappear in the development of the game which is intended to be a group game, not a solo game. When it becomes possible to rent NPCs for a crew for multi-crew ships, solo ships will become increasingly rare in game.

[@vahnn0]

Every star citizen event is a mess, including free flies. Welcome to Star Citizen.

[@zween87]

the only thing "earth-shattering" is the amount of marketing and the lies we are being told by CIG :)

[@JagHiroshi]

Amazing looking ship. God knows how the servers will cope when they properly release them.

[@Shinssue]

enjoy this event with my corpo, We even get to win the contest adding an Idris in our fleet. It's wasn't just a simple and boring quest, CiG give some objectives, leting us to organise, it was fun fighting with the entire server for space suprematy.

[@NANI_Official]

I think they said that only turrets will have auto gimbals. And everything else will have regular gimbals

[@tomalexander4327]

I wouldn't play this in a million years but it is fascinating to follow the drama.

[@VideoNinjaJim]

I have been an IDRIS owner since 2015 and I am pissed I can't experience the Ship I pledged for in my own time. But Other people can apparently can. Also due to work schedule and other people being ass hats QTing around in circles I don't even get a chance to see it. Now I have to wait Again. Like what's the point of waiting for SQ42 to not spoil the interior of the IDRIS when they do this Stupid event?

[@darkbro111]

I think there’s value to there being events catered towards bigger groups, but it’s kind of an issue when you’re in such an early stage in the game and I feel most people don’t have a huge groups to play with.

[@Mnerd7368]

But the Bengal Fleet carrier and the Javelin class Destroyer is still massive than the Idris-M and Idris-K and Idris-P. My BIGGEST problem about this game is when it is incredible boring when there is nothing to shoot and there is no alien humanoid creatures such Xi'an and Vanduul to shoot at. Also, there is no hostile alien creatures in all of the planets and feels empty. CIG can maybe learn a thing or two from Bungie, 343 Industries, Halo sci-fi Master Chief games, Star Trek, Mass Effect Andromeda, Doom 4 2016 and Doom Eternal, and Borderlands games. It is really ashamed with all that firepower is wasted since there is nothing to attack besides hostile human players and NPC humans. The Halo Covenant forces and Mass Effect aliens are the best looking aliens I have seen and maybe add in Star Citizen would be insane.

[@NovaAlcor]

When your space ship fomo starts leaking into your events you done fucked up.

[@animusnocturnus7131]

My main takeaway from master modes is that my Buccaneer will become more fun to do combat in. I do hope that CIG will consider increasing SCM speed slightly at some point if only to test how well it performs, so that PvP players can get their tests and CIG can bring up actual data to explain why they do one option over the other. I don't mind the current speed limit in MM but I'm not a PvP player. But that also means that I wouldn't mind the slightly higher speed limits some PvP players argue for. My personal opinion is that top tier PvP players running solo should be able to get overwhelmed by a group of casuals and also be driven away by enough NPC force, both of which is not the case in the current PU. But I also believe that a top tier PvP player should be able to win against 2 or 3 casuals and limp away. Basically we need a smaller skill gap than we currently have, but we do need to have some gap. How this can be accomplished and if the current trajectory of Master Modes is able to get us there though, I don't know.

[@980tibaby6]

I feel for the people who preordered this ship in 2012. All they get is these shitty teases and still no ship 12 years later. Imagine being scammed this hard. Yet these incompetent and greedy developers have the audacity to continue flaunting the Idris and still SELL this thing with no clear release date.

[@Uncanny_Mountain]

I feel bad for people who think they're the world experts on gaming but haven't made jack shit

[@980tibaby6]

@@Uncanny_Mountain Yet Clown Imperium no-Games hasn't even released a single game themselves for 12 years and counting. But keep sipping the cool aid, and funding this complete scam and thinking something will come out mate.

[@Uncanny_Mountain]

@@980tibaby6 that's a cute Strawman What games did you make Champion of the whole world?

[@DarthLofus]

I haven’t watched this video, but I’m sure it’s pretty decent.

[@MrSirFluffy]

Idk, why would people expect the event to be easy access and common if they are giving away a $1300 ship.

[@karakiri283]

The point ° . . . . . . . . (you)

[@yuurbi9136]

I’d just like to play the game without having to die as soon as I spawn in to get out of bed. I’d also like to stop somehow flipping my 890 outta the hanger tf

[@cornflakesyt658]

uff

[@AdityaWaghmare]

At this point, I only care about Squadron 42. Because that’s the only thing I believe will be a finished product.

[@superkaboose1066]

tbh I think the event being hard to find and dock into is a good thing, its a hard core game, if everyone can do everything it would just be bland and boring. Make some things easily accessible, make some things only elite squads be able to pull off.

[@FunkThompson]

Balancing in games *never ends* - especially complex games and games with any version of PVP, whether that is the focus of the game or not. The thing is this: Any system is exploitable by those that know the system well. So players can and will find ways to do crazy things that are not exactly intended by the developers, necessitating more changes and fixes and balance to "nerf" the unintended consequences. Each change adds new issues and contra-issues and yeah. It never ends.

[@SuperMontsta]

It's pointless to try to balance a game when the game isn't even fully fleshed out yet. They'll work on "balance" and then put out a new ship and then "oh no, l have to balance again". Rinse and repeat.

[@FunkThompson]

@@SuperMontstaNo, it isn't, because despite not being "done," many pledged players play this like it is a released game. And you kind of, sort of, usually can do so. So balance is a thing, already, and always will be. I get complaining about this or that change you don't like, but change is constant in most online games. Sure, things might settle down after a time, until new stuff is added and more balance passes occur.

[@MrAcuta73]

Tbh, there are MANY players out there that are going to be perfectly fine with laid-back game loops in cap ships. Hours of fiddling, moments of chaos. Most people aren't twitch players begging for constant dopamine hits. The twitchies just happen to be the second loudest group of complainers, "solo everything" people are the loudest with "I bought a PvP game and hate PvP" people in a close 3rd place. Cap ships are another example of how drastically the game will change once (if?) they manage to make NPC encounters more frequent/actually functional/actually enjoyable.

[@stormw777]

I think every time I do anything in this game I get stopped by bugs about 40% of the time.

[@MRMAN5551]

Does anyone think it's weird level cap hasn't done a Helldivers 2 video

[@AlexTSilver]

he said he is a devout catholic and will not engage with a game with the word "hell" in the title

[@MRMAN5551]

respect.@@AlexTSilver

[@TjarkoTarnen]

You need to add, “as expected” to the title, people going into a testing environment expecting it’s not going to be a mess are fools.

[@merclord]

Yeah mistakes were made. Let's hope they don't repeat this when they launch the BMM

[@ShaighJosephson]

Master Modes is going to kill the game... I can't believe the stupidity that is going on with CIG now... 😮

[@donnys2965]

I'm upset that on friday/saturday my org with 10-15 active couldnt even view an Idris. Ive been a backer since 2017 and at so many times things like this happen... I keep asking myself why? why not add more AI irdis? why not dock an idris at all spacepoints for viewing? why? why after all this time and money do these "special events" fail? ugh.. ----____----

[@Chase_The_Calm_Gaming]

Im wonderng how many people that purchased a P think its an M? For myself the event was just so far out of reach as a mostly solo player, I tried but by the time we had word the Idris event was on servers were full. o7

[@SuperMontsta]

Anyone with enough money to buy an Idris can probably read lol

[@Chase_The_Calm_Gaming]

@@SuperMontsta lol true for some 👍

[@Miratesus]

basically all newer players and casual players like mastermode, people who have put tons of hours into AC over the years and been mentored by simmilar players hosting regular events to practice are not happy about mastermodes. I don't mind either but I think it's healthier for the game to please the masses using mastermodes rather than just catering to a small elite group of pilots, Star Citizen has become so much more than a flight sim and people who play it for all kinds of reasons need to be able to participate to some extent I think.

[@jedi_drifter2988]

I don't think people realise that the big capital ships are going to be running multiple missions at the same time. You might have a couple fighters doing bounties, while a drop ship is running bunkers, a cargo ship is bringing in supplies and the Idris will rendezvous with a Starfarer tanker to refuel, before doing a convoy escort mission. How else can you support a huge cap ship ?

[@ChristoffRevan]

People just get emotional and go "I want it NOW, gimme it NOW" without realizing there's no real gameplay for it now. Even if the ship was 100% ready (and it's not), there'd be no way it could go into the game...servers are not ready for it, we need server meshing first as well as more star systems to justify the usage of a ship like that. Not to mention a lot more gameplay career/loops content to sink our teeth into and be occupied with

[@allthatishere]

​@@ChristoffRevanI feel like you're ranting about the wrong thing here. It's now about "I want it now," but that most people are simply looking to experience the event, but after 4-15 hours of waiting and searching, they found nothing.

[@plazmaballs1024]

Horrible event. Everything about it, completely HORRIBLE.

[@moonasha]

I hate these events that really just turn into streamer bait / large org playgrounds to stomp casuals. Even SoO has that crap at the end, it's basically impossible to get to the last part without a coordinated crew. Also I personally see zero point to ever having or using an Idris. The only use case is if they add RP servers, but the community is probably too awful for that and CIG doesn't give a crap

[@scottgust9709]

the amount of jank and bugs is off the Fing scale

[@sennemaa5976]

Basic CIG...

[@RN1441]

Learning that they had to use developers to man the Idris because the AI still isn't up to the job was disappointing.

[@yowza234]

This might be the coldest take, or even a hot one It's scummy to run high stakes events in an MMO that's barely stable and is hardly ready in terms of having dynamic systems that make it fairer to the bottom line player

[@Mr_Tea_Rexx]

Good to see them trying it cause this was cgi doing tests

[@ToitleInTime]

This master modes business just goes to show that these guys don’t even know what this game is supposed to be, how it’s meant to be, play, and feel. It’s like they’re just throwing whatever at the wall to see what sticks.

[@chrishoppner150]

lol when is something ever not a mess with CIG They have burned so much goodwill with me I'm not sure I have any left. Everything is T0 and "in the future". Nothing they do is even worth getting excited about, because it will just be broken. All of that aside, lmao boarding a capital ship with PDC should have something like a 0.001% chance of even making it on board alive.

[@subjectc7505]

Big Ship but for what use🤷🏽‍♂️

[@DABATTLEfieldER]

i see my name :D o7

[@Donkeymaster9000]

Hold up, I see mine too 🤣

[@bomberboyz1308]

After nearly 2 hours of a guy sitting in dead space with the idris it moved to hurston but nobody could get near it cause somehow a ship that big moves faster than any fighter sized aircraft in atmosphere didnt even get q chance to see the interior let alone win the event it was just garbage likethe F8 event at this point i can give less of a crap about their events even the solo ones like the vanduul mask screwed me over i just want the ships im waiting on in the pipeline like the zeus liberator and legionnaire

[@eelco8800]

Interpunction pls? It matters

[@jimbobhootenanny4440]

this game is a mess right now Very hard to play ATM

[@Glitch_Gaming]

A hot mess.

[@diamondswiss8026]

As expected, this event was a complete shitshow

[@yonakatsu4878]

No fucking waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay??????????????

[@BlazinNSoul]

Yea, I am already burned as I missed getting my $2,000 purchase from the Red festival event. Which was supposed to be through the 26th. Yet it ended like bairly at dawn on the 26th, which is bs. So now I have to wait till May before the next pledge event. Never did the iris event mission, but it sounds like I didn't miss much. Good, they are finally making good on some of these releases. However, it still can stand a little better execution, it seems from the sound of it here. As much as things change much remains the same. Which i guess we should have expected. Yet this was a huge miss at a time CIG needs some wins here. This could have helped give the new upcoming update some good buzz. Yet we end with nothing but empty space.

[@FiveCrazyGamer]

F the Idris Polaris is love Polaris is life XD

[@fatherrussell5303]

Master modes feels horrible

[@good_speed_0h]

Hello citizen's 🙏🏽

[@walawala-fo7ds]

I melted all my fighters last year. Not because of master modes, but because it was tedious non fun to use them. Desync, and endless meta of the patch, inconsistent balance and unfinished system make this game nothing but a waste of time with little fun return

[@jordanelevons1685]

All of their events have been a mess for 12 years?

[@DriOffaPerc7143]

So, when's the game gonna launch?🤣😂

[@klaric1]

I'm so burned out with these "Biggest update in SC history" updates. Not a damn thing changes and the same bugs and issues are present. If only SC could implement a presistence system as persistent as same game breaking blockers we're left to deal with year after year.

[@Uncanny_Mountain]

Go outside

[@eelco8800]

Who else is glad they didn't partake in the Idriss event? Me personally I don't have the stomach for all that stress.

[@gemini_1085]

I don’t really get the anger in the community. How many years have we said “all ships are earnable in game”? If you want an idris, it’s gonna be a grind or a purchase, there’s no in between, until now. Now you can potentially earn one with your buddies if you play your cards right. I think that’s incredible. The only exception I make for this rule is the “earnable by finishing SQ42” ship, whatever that may end up being, because that was a selling point to buying the game early.

[@Zero118]

I really dont like how master modes is looking. Much rather they just tweak the current system.

[@samuelreynolds8156]

I see star scam is still going

[@Backyard_Brouhaha]

SC players need to stop normalizing $200+ micro transactions when CIG cant even get an event to work in 2024......

[@DankasorusRex]

They need to focus on releasing actual game features and stop releasing new ships. We literally just want the game to work, stop making new ships to sell for $1000 real world dollars, you’ve made almost a billion so far and are just being greedy now.

[@daaaah_whoosh]

At this point I don't think they can survive as a company if they stop selling ships. Ideally they would have put out Squadron 42 by now and could coast for a bit on sales of that game, but I think they've committed too much to the MMO side and that's clearly nowhere near a full release. So the only way they keep the lights on long enough to release an actual game is if they keep bleeding the whales.

[@Uncanny_Mountain]

Classic edgelording by the usual keyboard warrior types 😂

[@lights4bre890]

SC is $45 dollars. The $1,000 is Optional. Why buy ships with $1,000 in real world cash when those same ship(s) will be purchasable with in game currency?

[@RS_Redbaron]

xxx

[@bewArcher]

3.23...could be earth shattering....but it wont. Knowing CIG, it's going to be gutted and we get 1/3 if that of the "promised" update Big games catter to the biggest slice of the player base...wich is PVE, CIG likes to be different....cattering to the minority...PVP, and if they continue...I see Age of conan all over again

[@chawkes70]

You got to admit.... CIG does questionable decisions really well lol