🖖Star Trek: The Next Generation 3x22 The Most Toys REACTION

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Jen Murray

Jen Murray

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@queegs73
@queegs73 4 ай бұрын
15:02 Data says “Perhaps something occurred during transport.” He didn’t lie. Something did occur…he fired the weapon. Data is learning the nuances of not revealing everything but he’s not lying.
@mr.a8315
@mr.a8315 4 ай бұрын
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@rl1171
@rl1171 4 ай бұрын
In this context, what does "perhaps something occurred during transport" mean? It means he doesn't want to say he fired a lethal weapon in order to kill him. Data knows it wasn't some sort of mishap with transport which is what he's implying, therefore he is lying by concealing the bottom line. Omitting information is a form of deception.
@sabin97
@sabin97 4 ай бұрын
he's lying by misdirection and omission. he knows he discharged the weapon, and that it was NOT something during transport.
@blechtic
@blechtic 4 ай бұрын
He was responding about the disruptor shot, not about why it was fired. It could have been straight literal interpretation, being evasive, or an assumption they knew about the strict logic of his morality and thus wouldn't need to ask about it so that it would have to be about the literal shot.
@sabin97
@sabin97 4 ай бұрын
@@blechtic no. data is many things. stupid is not one of them. he straight up lied about it.
@LearnToRefine
@LearnToRefine 4 ай бұрын
The final scene is great. Data has a unique way of saying "kiss my azz" without actually saying it. Data uses that old trope "I feel nothing for you.. I'm just an Android" because he knows his words will burn the evil collector. I love it!
@ozymandias1758
@ozymandias1758 4 ай бұрын
Beaten by the crown of his prized collection. By a valuable, if argumentative and rebellious "thing"😂🎉
@JKM395
@JKM395 4 ай бұрын
I just love this one. Data was perfectly willing to stick with passive resistance until he found out his captor was willing to continue killing people to get his way. As soon as he decided that there was a larger threat, he was ready to act. Perfectly reasonable all around. Well done, writers.
@bobbolondz2701
@bobbolondz2701 4 ай бұрын
I agree that it's reasonable but why did he not come out and say it to Riker?
@ianburns1167
@ianburns1167 4 ай бұрын
@@bobbolondz2701 He would rather not be seen as the kind of Android that would kill a person. Remember, his personhood is still very much ambiguous and he's been treated as an object for most of his life. Being branded the 'Killer Android' would be a real possibility, if not by Riker than by others.
@tedcole9936
@tedcole9936 4 ай бұрын
“He who dies with the most toys wins.” -This was a well-known saying in the 1980s. It was a tongue-in-cheek justification of the greed which became normalized in that decade.
@jonadabtheunsightly
@jonadabtheunsightly 4 ай бұрын
There's also "He who dies with the most toys, still dies." And, of course, the much older one, "You can't take it with you."
@JusBidniss
@JusBidniss 4 ай бұрын
Data's expression, or lack thereof, when deciding he must eliminate Fajo, and later when informing Fajo of the loss of his collection, are two great examples of Brent Spiner's acting ability. The subtle shift between his 'resting Data face' and this uber-serious mask of inscrutability, is genius-level acting. It's the scariest face on TV -- that of a mannequin who's been pushed too far.
@3Rayfire
@3Rayfire 4 ай бұрын
Like when he ordered the XO o the Sutherland to fire, and had to tell him again "FIRE!" There's a little demon in our android friend. Just a touch of the Lore.
@redpillfreedom6692
@redpillfreedom6692 4 ай бұрын
​@@3RayfireThat was feigned frustration, not bloodthirst.
@3Rayfire
@3Rayfire 4 ай бұрын
@@redpillfreedom6692 Frustration? No, that was feigned anger.
@glenngalloway6191
@glenngalloway6191 4 ай бұрын
Data has always had morals. And he's been learning humanity since the start of the show. This episode shows a more nuanced understanding (remember, his captor said he would keep killing to ensure Data's compliance). This isn't an 'evil' Data. It's a human Data.
@libertarianguy5567
@libertarianguy5567 4 ай бұрын
I don't think it makes him more human, this is basically the trolly problem given to a computer. Since diverting the trolly to kill one person only kills one person and leaving the trolly alone kills 5 people, logically you take the action to kill the one person. Only a human with ethics believes that there is an option here. Do I take action and kill the one person or not take any action and allow 5 others to die. On the one hand, I am killing someone and have to live with that for the rest of my life, on the other hand I can take no responsibility for the 5 deaths as I did not kill them making it easier on my conscience.
@Grindstone3838
@Grindstone3838 4 ай бұрын
@@libertarianguy5567but a regular computer would probably have concluded that total compliance was the best outcome for this particular trolly problem, as it would have saved everyone. Data’s desire to be free and wanting justice were pretty human-like traits.
@daerdevvyl4314
@daerdevvyl4314 4 ай бұрын
Grindstone3838 You’re assuming that his captor wouldn’t kill anyone else if Data complied. That isn’t a safe assumption. Something else could set him off, or he could simply decide that he enjoys killing and do so for no reason.
@Grindstone3838
@Grindstone3838 4 ай бұрын
@@daerdevvyl4314 i don’t think a computer would choose to actively kill someone now to avoid potential deaths in the future. Otherwise Data would just go around killing anybody who he thinks are likely to kill others in the future. Kivas has shown no evidence that he would kill anyone as long as they comply.
@KariLepola
@KariLepola 4 ай бұрын
I'd say calm and collected Data did fire that gun. When things come to it, you really don't want to cross him the wrong way. It's not that he get's mad (yet) but he can really do that Terminator kind of determination. Spock by comparison is a hothead.
@wolfslair31
@wolfslair31 3 ай бұрын
Always find it touching when Worf says he will honour data, same as Tasha, by performing their duties as well as they did.
@Kap00rwith2os
@Kap00rwith2os 4 ай бұрын
Even the look on Riker's face in the Transporter Room showed he had his doubts about Data. And the end line by Data..."I do not feel pleasure... I am only an android." It had a sinister vibe to it 🤔 and I LOVED it 😍
@karter95
@karter95 4 ай бұрын
Saul Rubinek later would play a collector in Warehouse 13. In season 4 Brent Spiner would guest in Warehouse 13 with Saul Rubinek playing the protagonist and Brent Spiner playing the antagonist
@taylemgames2652
@taylemgames2652 4 ай бұрын
IMO it is a damn crime Patrick Stewart and Brent Spiner never earned an Emmy. In fact, I believe Stewart was vocal in his disgust that Spiner never received one as he considered Brent's work as Data to be one of the best acting performances he has ever seen.
@MMuraseofSandvich
@MMuraseofSandvich 27 күн бұрын
Before the LotR trilogy, there were 3 genres that were never really taken seriously by Hollywood: Fantasy, animation, and sci-fi. It's like the "dentistry" joke in _The Voyage Home,_ no one really thought to nominate people for what they did on Star Trek when there were "actual" dramas like _Law & Order_ and _ER._ It's unfortunate, but that's show biz for ya...
@ChristianEhrhardt1
@ChristianEhrhardt1 4 ай бұрын
“Warp 8… he means business!” Try to explain that sentence to one of your non trekki friends 😅
@adamcohen233
@adamcohen233 4 ай бұрын
Watching Jen's journey into Trek fandom is a satisfying sociological experience. Moments like that one are great reminders of the many light years she's already traveled.
@humanvideosponge4529
@humanvideosponge4529 4 ай бұрын
The Most Toys is probably one of the most underappreciated episodes of TNG. Saul Rubinek's performance is uncomfortably believable.
@chetstevensq
@chetstevensq 4 ай бұрын
Saul Rubinek is always fun. He and Timothy Hutton teamed up on a couple series. Semi regular on Nero Wolfe and the initial villain on Leverage.
@mego73
@mego73 4 ай бұрын
He's especially good, considering considering he was a last moment replacement for the original actor that made an attempt to end his life during filming.
@Flatlander81
@Flatlander81 4 ай бұрын
@@mego73 They had actually been filming for a few days before they had to replace him. There's some of those unused scenes floating around KZbin, but I gotta say Rubinek's performance is superior.
@Omegaroth666
@Omegaroth666 4 ай бұрын
Agreed. Saul's performance is so malicious and cold.
@JustWasted3HoursHere
@JustWasted3HoursHere 4 ай бұрын
@@mego73 I thought David Rappaport had actually killed himself. Another late replacement for TNG that ended up being fantastic was David Warner in the two part episode "Chain of Command". He plays a Cardassian who tortures Picard. Supposedly he only had three days to prepare and so read most of his lines off of cue cards held out of camera view, but you'd never know it. Coincidentally, he and David Rappaport had both starred in another movie, "Time Bandits".
@ThePendragon1998
@ThePendragon1998 4 ай бұрын
I think Fajo tossed the disruptor because he was genuinely shocked and horrified by his first actual murder. I don't think he had actually killed someone before. But then, a minute later, he was realizing that actually...he kind of liked it.
@HawkGTboy
@HawkGTboy 4 ай бұрын
I noticed that as well. The reality of watching someone die from that weapon was different from his idea of what it would be like.
@ThomasFishwick
@ThomasFishwick 4 ай бұрын
If I remember correctly the reason Worf was upset over Data's supposed death was that it was an accident. In battle, or during a rescue mission, it would have been seen as an honourable death. One that had meaning, perhaps song. Especially for a Klingon like Worf. An accident would not allow Data entry into Sto'Vo'kor (Klingon Valhalla). Worf, like every other member of the crew, saw Data as a person and not a machine. It's a telling thing and something we all should learn about. Accepting people for who they are.
@michaelfinlay6341
@michaelfinlay6341 4 ай бұрын
We don't learn how deeply religious Worf is until much later in TNG, and then in DS9.
@drb6771
@drb6771 4 ай бұрын
Warp 8, he means business!! 🤣🤣
@jn-zr2ki
@jn-zr2ki 4 ай бұрын
if Jen says "frig off!" it's a good episode
@LuminairPrime
@LuminairPrime 4 ай бұрын
I would replicate a "FRIG OFF!!!" TNJ t-shirt lol
@NotQuiteFirst
@NotQuiteFirst 4 ай бұрын
14:20 "i'll kill someone else...him, perhaps" and then the guy instantly disappears in the edit
@ianburns1167
@ianburns1167 4 ай бұрын
Guy had the sense to get the frak out of line of sight
@kilroy987
@kilroy987 4 ай бұрын
Data had trouble resolving the correct course of action at the end. He decided to fire and deal with the consequences, but the moment he got beamed out, he knew all of his reasons to fire were gone again. So he chose not to share what he was having trouble resolving. I'd say it was a very personal experience for him.
@viceman8152
@viceman8152 4 ай бұрын
"I do not feel pleasure. I am only an android". And Data gave just a hint of satisfaction in his voice and a dash of smugness in his facial expression. Subjective and open for interpretation. But I think he did indeed enjoy seeing his captor as the captive.
@maokai-shek7611
@maokai-shek7611 4 ай бұрын
It's more like it was meant to be even worse for the captive because Data wasn't even an enemy. He lost against an emotionless machine and lost his freedom.
@viceman8152
@viceman8152 4 ай бұрын
@@maokai-shek7611 Yes, but I was speaking of the way Brent Spiner played him. Leaving us wondering if he did have some emotion in there. A brilliant actor and the perfect part for him.
@stephanieblackmore1461
@stephanieblackmore1461 4 ай бұрын
When Warf says “Data” I choke up every time
@SpectrumAnalysis
@SpectrumAnalysis 4 ай бұрын
Watching these scenes for the second time makes me realise... I already knew this episode displayed a different side of Data, but watching him realise the only way to open the door was by using the collector, then striding dispassionately over to him in order to... do whatever he needed to escape, before being stopped by the forcefield... I'm glad Data has such a strong moral compass, because an army a disposable Datas, as Starfleet said, would have been a terrifying sight, and it adds a whole new context to Lore. In this episode we see Data logically and matter-of-factly waltz up to someone in order to knock them out to use their door key, if not carry them over there bodily, or even potentially kill or threaten them to open the door. We see him emotionally manipulate a fellow prisoner to help him escape, even if he had good intentions of freeing her to justify it. We see him pushed to his very moral limits of questioning, as he's questioned Picard, is one life worth taking in order to save many more? Ultimately we see him decide "yes" and pull the trigger. Finally, when this is found out by his compatriots, we see him lie, somewhat convincingly, for the first time. While that last scene has him explain that he is an android and can't feel satisfaction in seeing the collector behind bars and his collection returned to their rightful places, but does he not feel it? Why would he go to his cell otherwise? Why even bring up what's happening to his collection? I think he is satisfied and the fact he is so, while staring with cold and lifeless eyes adds a really interesting dimension to his character. Genius episode.
@tls5870
@tls5870 4 ай бұрын
Ever since Warehouse 13 this is the Artie episode to me. Also reminds me of Eureka for the few episodes he was in at the beginning. I need to rewatch those shows.
@JordyJayHomer
@JordyJayHomer 4 ай бұрын
The actor who played the bad guy's dinner guest, Nehemiah Persoff, lived to 102
@ArtisticMysticSoul
@ArtisticMysticSoul 4 ай бұрын
Such a chilling episode. I like that they left the ending open to interpretation.
@roberthunter4884
@roberthunter4884 4 ай бұрын
YAY!!! I've been waiting a long time for you to see this one, so good, so good.
@adarael
@adarael 4 ай бұрын
Jen, I may be biased, but since I know you also love Data centric episodes... I think this is one of the best episodes of TNG. Brent Spiner had some REALLY good commentary about the ending, when the writers and directors were "Did he? Didn't he?" Spiner wss like, "HE ABSOLUTELY DID."
@michaelfinlay6341
@michaelfinlay6341 4 ай бұрын
Of course Data meant to kill Fajo. Data went through all of the calculations, we saw him do it. The only choice he had was to put Fajo down.
@synthetic240
@synthetic240 4 ай бұрын
"Something" did occur during transport: he fired coincidentally at the moment of transport. He technically told the truth. Which is about the only way Data could justify a half-truth.
@anthonymiele4320
@anthonymiele4320 4 ай бұрын
A lie of omission is still a lie, he did not tell the truth.
@JasonRule-1
@JasonRule-1 4 ай бұрын
​​​@@anthonymiele4320 "Perhaps something occurred during transport, Commander." Riker did not ask him what happened. He just stated that they identified a weapon discharge. By Data's response, I think Riker got the hint that he shouldn't ask him any questions about what actually happened. That kind of awareness comes from knowing someone and trusting him.
@3Rayfire
@3Rayfire 4 ай бұрын
That said, Vulcans are incapable of lying. Data has never made such a claim.
@ThePendragon1998
@ThePendragon1998 4 ай бұрын
Riker's reaction certainly looked like he knew something was up, but he also trusts his friend and I think he was willing to let whatever it was slide based on that.
@anthonymiele4320
@anthonymiele4320 4 ай бұрын
@@JasonRule-1 I don't dispute that at all. Riker probably knew data lied, but he did lie.
@Brasc
@Brasc 4 ай бұрын
Saul Rubinek, who played the bad guy, is a prolific TV actor who's shown up in many shows over the years. His most prominent was in Warehouse 13, though he also had a large role at one point in Frasier.
@3Rayfire
@3Rayfire 4 ай бұрын
And he brought enough slime and ooze to this role to make an army of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
@gaz-l621
@gaz-l621 4 ай бұрын
He also was brought on for this role basically later than last minute after mental health issues meant the original actor became unavailable.
@RandomAmerican3000
@RandomAmerican3000 4 ай бұрын
Also in Unforgiven as the annoying writer guy.
@mattx449
@mattx449 4 ай бұрын
@@RandomAmerican3000 writer? Of what? letters?
@kluneberg8952
@kluneberg8952 4 ай бұрын
the movie producer in True Romance too
@MichaelCoffman-w6o
@MichaelCoffman-w6o 4 ай бұрын
Greetings Admiral Murray 😊. Another 2 episodes on a perfect Sunday. Love ❤ your reactions as always. Live long and prosper. 🖖😊
@warpig4942
@warpig4942 4 ай бұрын
$50 says Fajo peed himself just like in "Unforgiven".
@flerbus
@flerbus 4 ай бұрын
duck i says
@anthonymiele4320
@anthonymiele4320 4 ай бұрын
Data: I consider this a hostile act. Fajo: You get used to it. Me in Data's position: So, you've chosen death then... It is the first duty of every prisoner to escape, the first duty.
@HawkGTboy
@HawkGTboy 4 ай бұрын
Data could have just picked up an object in that room and hurled at him with lethal force.
@anthonymiele4320
@anthonymiele4320 4 ай бұрын
@@HawkGTboy Maybe, maybe not. The episode didn't explore that idea one way or the other. It's easy to conceive that the force field thing might have protected him against that or perhaps he had other counter measures, we just don't know.
@e.d.2096
@e.d.2096 4 ай бұрын
One of my favorite episodes! Thanks Jen...carry on! 😊
@mikerhodes8454
@mikerhodes8454 4 ай бұрын
The original actor to play Fajo committed suicide shortly after filming, so they reshot the entire episode with the guy you saw. You might recognize him as the book writer in Unforgiven.
@jmwild1
@jmwild1 4 ай бұрын
David Rappaport attempted suicide during filming, only some of his scenes had been shot. They hurriedly recast the role and reshot those scenes in order to make their production schedule. He later went to a park and shot himself, three days before the episode began to air in syndication.
@chrislaustin
@chrislaustin 4 ай бұрын
@@jmwild1 That's so sad, and the fact that he went through with it after fact is soul crushing. I would have loved to had seen him in this role, as I think he would have done a great job as that character.
@jmwild1
@jmwild1 4 ай бұрын
@@chrislaustin Rappaport was so great in Time Bandits. I own the blurays of TNG and a couple of the scenes that were shot with him as Fajo are on it. He wore prosthetics for the role, but I guess in recasting they decided to save time not having Saul Rubinek go through that make-up process and just drew some tattoos on his face instead.
@brucechmiel7964
@brucechmiel7964 4 ай бұрын
Thing is funny thing is, he really likes to play characters that collect things. Snag it , Bag it, tag it
@WVRSpenceWestVirginiaRebel
@WVRSpenceWestVirginiaRebel 4 ай бұрын
Saul Rubinek, who was also on Warehouse 13.
@shanepye7078
@shanepye7078 4 ай бұрын
Saul Rubinek was brought in at the VERY last minute for this role. They had practically shot the episode, but the actor who originally played Fajo has a … self deleting attempt so the producers wanted him basically replaced. It’s a sad story and footage of him in the role is on KZbin. Saul NAILED this role so well and it still surprises me that it was all at the last min. Another show he was GREAT in is “Warehouse 13”.
@christiansabotta6368
@christiansabotta6368 4 ай бұрын
Top 5 episode for me! Love this one. Glad you watched it!
@VeegovonDOOM
@VeegovonDOOM 4 ай бұрын
This is one of my favorite episodes .
@robertfindley921
@robertfindley921 4 ай бұрын
Great episode. Filming got partly done when the original actor who played Kivas Fajo (David Rappaport) took his own life. They had to quickly recast to the actor you see (Saul Rubinek) in the episode. You can find a comparison of the two in the final scene on KZbin by searching for both their names.
@ChrisReise
@ChrisReise 4 ай бұрын
16:36 Data didn't lie what he said was 100% truth..."Perhaps something happened during transport."
@gwenthor
@gwenthor 4 ай бұрын
It was great to see you jiving to the intro in spite of the difficult intro. Commercial break!
@davidclough3951
@davidclough3951 4 ай бұрын
The main guest star is also an old friend of Brent Spiner (Data) from back when he did stage shows. Brent would later guest star on the other's TV show years later, Warehouse 13.
@friskycrewgerrusty
@friskycrewgerrusty 4 ай бұрын
Jen Murray would be in that collection because she’s one of a kind 😊
@mr.a8315
@mr.a8315 4 ай бұрын
🏆 🥂 Top comment.
@hellomark1
@hellomark1 4 ай бұрын
Okay I know this is a more serious one but "You know I love evasive maneuvers!" cracked me up 😅
@JusBidniss
@JusBidniss 4 ай бұрын
"Perhaps something occurred during transport, Commander." Technically, not a lie. Data pulling the disruptor's trigger _did_ occur during transport. And if O'Brien had energized a split second later? That same 'something' would have occurred immediately _before_ transport....
@blechtic
@blechtic 4 ай бұрын
I think he simply refers to the disruptor shot disappearing or not firing during transport.
@ErrorMessageNotFound
@ErrorMessageNotFound 4 ай бұрын
I like to think that Data fired because he was acting in defense of the next person who would have otherwise been killed.
@briguy399
@briguy399 19 күн бұрын
Totally agree....
@Will-nn6ux
@Will-nn6ux 4 ай бұрын
He may not 'feel' it, but Data clearly has some kind of sense of satisfaction at that psycho's fate.
@ianbuckley2347
@ianbuckley2347 4 ай бұрын
A great episode. Another good one from season 3 and yet another great reaction. Thanks Jen.❤
@ShadowTrailMedia
@ShadowTrailMedia 4 ай бұрын
"I TREATED YOU LIKE A SON! YOU FUCKIN' STABBED ME IN THE HEART!!!!" Saul Rubinek straight dining on scenery in True Romance
@NoMiedo1
@NoMiedo1 4 ай бұрын
Hearing "Commercial break!" during these reactions is a welcome highlight. Great videos!
@Markus117d
@Markus117d 4 ай бұрын
Data was going to kill Fajo, Because he'd decided it was the only way to stop fajo from continuing to harm others..
@mr.a8315
@mr.a8315 4 ай бұрын
Btw, actor Saul Rubinek (the antagonist) has a small but highly memorable role in True Romance (1993).
@chrisnielsen9885
@chrisnielsen9885 4 ай бұрын
He was awesome in Warehouse 13 too
@qjv1922
@qjv1922 4 ай бұрын
🖖 One of the best Star Trek villains! No interrest in political, religious or so power, just being evil for personal enrichment, to satisfy his ego... no moral compass, no regrets, no remorse whatsoever! And so damn' real as the darker ugly side of "humanity" Saul Rubinek really nailed it with his performance! 👍 👍 👍 👍👍
@Mastarfiin
@Mastarfiin 4 ай бұрын
Except Kivas Fajo wasn't Human and thus no darker ugly side of "humanity". He was a Zibalian trader and you can tell by his facial structure/features he wasn't human.
@qjv1922
@qjv1922 4 ай бұрын
@@Mastarfiin "Humanity" as a more philosophical concept not as a bioligical fact (like mankind) 🙄🤌...just in the same way Data uses the word! Kivas Faju is just a metaphor for certain human dark traits, like Ferengi are for human greed, Klingons for violence...and so on! 🤓
@Mastarfiin
@Mastarfiin 4 ай бұрын
@@qjv1922 Ah. My bad.
@TheTaelus
@TheTaelus 4 ай бұрын
I’ve always held, Data already has emotions. He just wasn’t “programmed” to feel them.
@BEBruns
@BEBruns 4 ай бұрын
Or to quote Bender: “Being a robot's great, but we don't have emotions and sometimes that makes me very sad.”
@michaelfinlay6341
@michaelfinlay6341 4 ай бұрын
If he had been, he would be Lore unleashed. A terrifying possibility.
@ianburns1167
@ianburns1167 4 ай бұрын
Or like they talk about with Death in Diskworld, as well as the recently dead. They have emotions but they don't have glands or a body, so it's different.
@jchendrix
@jchendrix 4 ай бұрын
Nice to see Jen getting her ranking pins back
@christopherwall2121
@christopherwall2121 4 ай бұрын
He absolutely would have killed Fajo if he was able to. "I cannot allow this to continue." In Data's calculations, whatever happened to him after it was found out what he did was irrelevant next to the amount of lives he'd be saving by killing an extremely dangerous man like Fajo.
@michaelfinlay6341
@michaelfinlay6341 4 ай бұрын
Fajo was text book evil. Data went through the calculations, we saw it. The only choice he had was to put him down.
@MrHritz
@MrHritz 4 ай бұрын
Maybe Bruce Wayne could learn a thing or two from watching this episode.
@TheMarionetteKitty
@TheMarionetteKitty 9 күн бұрын
I only just noticed the melting clocks Dali painting. The real one's actually very small, barely an 8x10 sheet of paper. I loved this episode.
@raterus
@raterus 3 ай бұрын
Data: "Fajo, I'll be shutting down now and sending a subspace message to the Enterprise know I'm alive and well. Best of luck when they show up! Toodles!"
@stegwise
@stegwise 4 ай бұрын
"I cannot allow this to continue" is the navigation of a deep moral dilemma
@jamesMarjan
@jamesMarjan 4 ай бұрын
Lr Commander Data has ALL GREEN LIGHTS to fire on him.
@MoogieSRO
@MoogieSRO 4 ай бұрын
A personal favourite episode, I've been really looking forward to your reaction to this one. Data is such a fascinating character, isn't he? It's a credit both to Brent's acting and the writers' skill that they're able to subtly show how his personality and humanity is evolving over the series. We don't need direct conversations about it, it's all through subtext, body language and actions. Something modern show writers seem to have long forgotten how to do.
@airmaildolphin7013
@airmaildolphin7013 4 ай бұрын
"Keep you captive?! OH, no! Certainly not. You have been STOLEN!"
@TylerD288
@TylerD288 4 ай бұрын
Jen, loved both reactions from Sunday! "The Most Toys" is my favorite of the two. Rubinek did a great job playing the haughty Fajo.
@89Timex
@89Timex 4 ай бұрын
The scene where Fajo shows Data the baseball card always makes me smile for some reason.
@Semaj4747
@Semaj4747 4 ай бұрын
The episode had a major problem behind the scenes, something they’ve never had to deal with. Kivas Fajo was played by another actor, David Rappaport, from Time Bandits. He filmed for 2-3 days, went home, and attempted to “self-deleted” himself. He failed, but the TNG crew could not go further. They scrapped the footage, which can be viewed on YT, and hired Saul Rubinek at the last minute. Saul, a huge fan of Trek, came in and learned the lines on the spot. Saul’s version of Kivas is much more playful and dark, like an obsessed fan who poses as being high class. That last scene with him in jail is very fitting. Yes, Data fired the weapon on purpose. Great episode. This isn’t the last we will see of the “collectors”.
@dostatochno
@dostatochno 4 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, Rappaport made a second attempt very soon after, and, tragically, was successful.
@Semaj4747
@Semaj4747 4 ай бұрын
@@dostatochno Yeah, Rappaport had some real talent. It is a shame
@daniellanctot6548
@daniellanctot6548 4 ай бұрын
*_Grim Fact: David Rappaport, a little person actor from the UK, originally was cast as Kivas Fajo. Rappaport struggled with depression and attempted suicide after only filming a few scenes in the role and so was replaced withSaul Rubinek, who we see in the episode. Even more sadly, Rappaport ended his life shortly before this episode aired on TV._*
@JamesC1981
@JamesC1981 4 ай бұрын
to add, the filmed scenes with him are available here on youtube if anyone wants to compare
@RandomAmerican3000
@RandomAmerican3000 4 ай бұрын
Unfortunate on many levels. From the scenes they did film with him, I rather liked his take on Fajo.
@mr.a8315
@mr.a8315 4 ай бұрын
Very tragic. :(
@captbunnykiller1.0
@captbunnykiller1.0 4 ай бұрын
I love the fact that Data actually pulled the trigger. He made his peace with ending this guy for the greater good, but he is also smart enough not to give it away. If he had been a human this action would have been much more easily understood as a result of emotonal distress than from an android as a consequence of logical argumentation. He has been scrutinized too often to trust that Star Fleet would accept his reasoning, he has survived to this point because his friends protected him and he is finally over that, which is very mature.
@johnpittsii7524
@johnpittsii7524 4 ай бұрын
Hi Jen hope you are having an great and awesome day ❤
@jenmurrayxo
@jenmurrayxo 4 ай бұрын
Thanks John you too!
@tvdroid22
@tvdroid22 4 ай бұрын
Data's neural net adapts and grows, so the complexity of the moment is an example of how his behavior was in reading in depth and complexity, while still being under the umbrella of his programming parameters.
@Omegaroth666
@Omegaroth666 4 ай бұрын
17:28 I love Data's response to Riker about the weapon discharging during transport, specifically because he's not lying, nor is he volunteering any extra information.
@MGower4465
@MGower4465 4 ай бұрын
0:59 I love that they had Worf, probably the lesst sentimental person aside from Data himself, be the first to verbally react.
@Sandy-dd4le
@Sandy-dd4le 4 ай бұрын
Jen seeking solace in the theme tune in case Data died, absolutely priceless! 😂
@roberthunter4884
@roberthunter4884 4 ай бұрын
The next episode is epic as well.
@zonedaiatlas
@zonedaiatlas 4 ай бұрын
David Rappaport was originally cast as Kivas Fajo in "The Most Toys" and several scenes were filmed, but he suffered severe depression and committed suicide. They brought in Saul Rubinek for the role and couldn't use any footage filmed with David. You can find deleted scenes Season 3 Blu Ray disc collection.
@spencerbookman2523
@spencerbookman2523 4 ай бұрын
Data must have written a special sarcasm subroutine in order to deliver that last line of dialog... Short of the writers retconing Data's personality (which is the real reason Data does any particular thing) it's hard to imagine a being seemingly motivated entirely by curiosity being able to do a lot of what Data does. How does he develop any moral character without a sense of indignation? How does he form lasting friendships without a sense of empathy or affection. For Data, understanding humanity must boil down to the most clinical study of the human evolutionary imperative imaginable.
@Ian-xx1xb
@Ian-xx1xb 4 ай бұрын
Let's get the early comment and like in to kickstart the algorithm 🖖 In the meantime a small trek joke - Why did Worf change his hair color? It was a good day to dye 😃 love next Jen Sunday's so much lady Jen is the best 🔥💙🔥💙
@kevinlewallen4778
@kevinlewallen4778 4 ай бұрын
This one got a laugh out of me, Ian!
@Ian-xx1xb
@Ian-xx1xb 4 ай бұрын
@@kevinlewallen4778 😃 glad you enjoyed it 😅
@kevinlewallen4778
@kevinlewallen4778 4 ай бұрын
Jen, I like how we got a little theme singing at the end. Thanks!
@TankZane
@TankZane 4 ай бұрын
This was DATA's 'Did you see the sunrise moment'.
@nialljohnson5191
@nialljohnson5191 4 ай бұрын
In case it wasn't mentioned so far, the title came from in ironic bumper sticker which read: He who dies with the most toys, wins.
@lavoixdelasagesse2837
@lavoixdelasagesse2837 4 ай бұрын
I love your dedication to STNG. Very good, ensign Murray! ;)
@BEBruns
@BEBruns 4 ай бұрын
If you ever get around to watching The Lower Decks, there is an episode built around the idea of a Collectors Guild. That episode is packed with easter eggs. There’s even a throwaway line suggesting Fajo isn’t the only one who tried to collect Data.
@bradbarter8314
@bradbarter8314 4 ай бұрын
One of my favourite episodes of TNG and Saul as Fajo was perfectly cast but there is a sad part in real life with this episode. The original actor to play Fajo was a British actor who was extremely depressed and unalived himself in the middle of production. There are a few scenes with him playing Fajo you can find on KZbin as well as more information regarding his passing on KZbin as well. RIP
@Briansgate
@Briansgate 4 ай бұрын
Ah! getting so close to the season 3 finale!!
@joemagnus5085
@joemagnus5085 4 ай бұрын
Data was fully going to execute Fajoh. He fully warned what he was capable of. Riker, Worf , Picard probably all done the same given the situation.
@DrummingWriterTrekfan84
@DrummingWriterTrekfan84 4 ай бұрын
"I need to get into the the music for a minute bum, bum bum bum,bum bum bum!" Lol! You're the musicly best jen! I always appreciate how you recognize the different instruments used. 🎶🎶🎶🖖
@VME-Brad
@VME-Brad 4 ай бұрын
Nice, always a good episode for Data development. Can't wait for next week though.
@josefgordon7712
@josefgordon7712 4 ай бұрын
2:00 looks just like a set from the Original Series 😝
@jonadabtheunsightly
@jonadabtheunsightly 4 ай бұрын
Yes, Data fired the disruptor, but the transporter pulled him out just at that moment. I believe Riker knows what's up, which is why he doesn't question Data's vague and obviously unsatisfactory answer, or ask Geordi to check the transporter for relevant malfunctions, etc. He lets the explanation stand, because he knows what kind of man Fajo is. (You know he does, because he cuts off Data's list of Fajo's crimes with "The arrangements have already been made," meaning, he already knows what sorts of things Fajo has done.) Riker is consistently a very strong proponent of self-determination. He is accepting of a fair variety of cultural quirks, but he consistently draws the line on that issue.
@vermithax
@vermithax 4 ай бұрын
As a chronic wheeze-laugher, I love that you can appreciate a good wheeze laugh.
@karlwest437
@karlwest437 4 ай бұрын
You telling me Data didn't enjoy seeing Fajo in that cell? Of course he did!
@pauld6967
@pauld6967 4 ай бұрын
If you enjoy Saul in this as Fajo, you will be very entertained by his starring performance in the series _'Warehouse 13.'_
@LuminairPrime
@LuminairPrime 4 ай бұрын
There are so many good episodes of this show that were made for Jen, I'm ded lollll TNJ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@TheDanEdwards
@TheDanEdwards 4 ай бұрын
Guest actor Saul Rubinek is better known to younger people today for his starring role in _Warehouse 13_ , but he also was a guest actor in one of the best, perhaps the best, _Stargate SG-1_ two-parters.
@Michael-id9bw
@Michael-id9bw 4 ай бұрын
Mr. Beauchamp from "Unforgiven."
@christopherwall2121
@christopherwall2121 4 ай бұрын
Or to a lot of people, Donnie on _Frasier_
@bobbuethe1477
@bobbuethe1477 4 ай бұрын
The inventor of Samaritan on "Person of Interest."
@shawbros
@shawbros 4 ай бұрын
I also saw him on Death Ship.
@hillbillyreefer8996
@hillbillyreefer8996 4 ай бұрын
The irony of datas painting...its a painting of infinity...he felt it was never complete.. genius
@martinfehringer6408
@martinfehringer6408 4 ай бұрын
I thought it was the vortex of season 2 "Time Squared" :)
@j.rileyindependentproductions
@j.rileyindependentproductions 4 ай бұрын
@@martinfehringer6408 Why can't it be both?
@SirChaosS
@SirChaosS 4 ай бұрын
it's also very reminiscent of the vortex the enterprise was caught in, in "Time Squared"
@Sandy-dd4le
@Sandy-dd4le 4 ай бұрын
One of the greatest gags in the entire show!
@slickfandango7915
@slickfandango7915 4 ай бұрын
nonsense. infinity looks nothing like that.
@charlesmarkovetz6797
@charlesmarkovetz6797 4 ай бұрын
If you go back and watch the first episode you will really see the evolution of data he is changing and so is the entire crew. By the end of the series everyone will be different. That is why rewatching tng is so fun and common. Love the reactions.
@humanvideosponge4529
@humanvideosponge4529 4 ай бұрын
I had some additional thoughts on Data's (possible) rationale for his decision to fire (Which he obviously was going to when he was beamed out). Fajo had just murdered Varia and was threatening to murder someone else. My theory is that Data reasoned that if Fajo murdered someone else because Data refused to cooperate, it would be essentially the same as if Data had killed them himself if there was something he could have done to stop it. So even though Fajo was not technically armed, he also could not have been stopped any other way due to Fajo's personal shield. Though it's a potential plot hole to ask why his shield couldn't protect him from the disruptor. But......the question remains. Why did Data lie to Riker? He could have easily justified his actions.
@bcn1gh7h4wk
@bcn1gh7h4wk 4 ай бұрын
the disruptor being discharged means that Data was holding Fajo at gunpoint without ammo. poker face bluff, through and through. fun fact, in Spanish slang "fajo" is what we call a bundle of anything paper, tied with a strip or sling (the _faja_ proper), most commonly associated to cash bills. Fajo here may be slang for "stacked", as in rich.
@AXSLA3
@AXSLA3 4 ай бұрын
Data: "I can get no...satisfaction..."
@kathyastrom1315
@kathyastrom1315 4 ай бұрын
Saul Rubinek is a remarkable actor. He made Kivas Fajo an iconic Star Trek villain. He has a small role in the 1995 film Hiroshima as Leo Szilard. In just five minutes, he nearly steals the film.
@michaelfinlay6341
@michaelfinlay6341 4 ай бұрын
Unforgiven. He went toe to toe with Richard Harris and Clint Eastwood. He's subtle, you don't see him coming. But when he does.... You get Kivas Fajo, the most clearly evil character in TNG (aside from the Borg).
@MantisEnergy
@MantisEnergy 4 ай бұрын
ahh, buh buh Buhhh, buh buh buuuhm! 🎶
@RoodeMenon
@RoodeMenon 3 ай бұрын
Every Data centric episode is a banger.
@MD-1982
@MD-1982 4 ай бұрын
Good episode - I always imagine what Kivas Vajo would've done if he found Lore and kept him captive
@colinmelton3815
@colinmelton3815 4 ай бұрын
Lore would have found a painful way to end Fajo and free himself twice as fast. Would probably involve blowing up the ship...
@MD-1982
@MD-1982 4 ай бұрын
@@colinmelton3815 more than likely
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