Star Trek: TNG Review - 4x25 In Theory | Reverse Angle

[@MichaelApproved]

Data would like you and Q to know that he’s not a robot, he’s an android.

[@marshallhuffer4713]

Technically, androids ARE robots but are designed to look human.

[@MichaelApproved]

@@marshallhuffer4713 it’s a reference to the Deja Q episode where Q calls data a robot and data replies that he’s an android, not a robot.

[@halfsourlizard9319]

@@marshallhuffer4713 And humans are robots that are made of meat.

[@charlesvan13]

They know. But use the derogatory "robot" for comedic purposes.

[@gcooper642]

I've always liked this episode. I'm female and Brent Spinner was quite attractive. He plays Data with this soft voice and he was taking an interest in Jenna and listening to her. That's really attractive. I would have given it a go too. Wouldn't have worked out, but worth a try. The Orville has the android dating the Doctor and their relationship lasts longer.

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

Jenna is the android, it turned out.

[@kilmcm45]

Data's gf is real looker. I mean cute by conventional standards. The Dr from Orville is not really CoverGirl material....and I'm not saying the actress isn't beautiful. I took some advertising classes in college and these industries have their cookie cutter standards. I don't buy many commercial products at all. I think that the whole business is pretty corrupt but, trying to pretend it doesn't affect the general average standard of beauty, just obfuscates the issue.

[@dr.juerdotitsgo5119]

I love this episode for the advice on women each main character gives to Data. Geordi and Picard, "I got nothing" Riker, "hope you crush that puss, bro!"

[@kilmcm45]

@@dr.juerdotitsgo5119 fuck, Worf was even more hardcore than Ryker. Yo, marry the bitch immediately and kill something in her name!

[@halfsourlizard9319]

@@dr.juerdotitsgo5119 I mean, what else did you expect from Riker!?

[@asahearts1]

They make a lot of dangerous decisions for a ship full of civilians.

[@TheRealKaiProton]

I always loved that Argument Data has with Jenna, when he brings her mother into it,

[@TheInfamousBob314]

Bold of them to have both the A and B plots cover minefields.

[@shawndorisian1857]

If you remember in THE CHILD, Troi's son was in an area that had a number of puppies that he played with.

[@woofy2000]

True, I wonder what happened to them... eaten by the reptile/dog aliens from season 1?

[@Mehwhatevr]

i always respected Picard for that response. Geordi should have responded the same way

[@jamessatter7418]

This was one of my favorite Troi episodes, even though she was barely in it. She knew that Data dating was a bad idea and was willing to level with him.

[@jamessatter7418]

This episodes shows that ... In Theory ... Troi could be a better counselor than Guinan

[@bingbong9076]

I vividly remember being pretty young and catching the scene where the ensign no clips into the floor and dies on like the SyFy channel way before I started watching TNG and getting nightmares from it.

[@EnzeruAnimeFan]

we've been doing our first watch-thru of TNG (we got it on blu-ray) and only had time for 1 episode tonight. it was this episode and i'm still up 5 hours later partly bc of that scene, so i came looking to see if anyone else had something to say abt it.

[@memoryhero]

My favorite wrinkle this episode was the death of the crewman. I mean, that lady was firmly IN the floor. Imagine trying to collect the body for a funeral. Pretty dark.

[@MichaelApproved]

Love the series but could you lower the volume on that intro/outro? It’s jarring when it comes on after listening to a conversation. Regardless, thanks for making these!

[@chardtomp]

The thing that most consistently annoyed me throughout the series was the other crew members constantly expecting Data to have emotional reactions.

[@chardtomp]

@@SpockLover27 That's still a very cerebral reaction that Data is describing. It would pale in comparison to an actual human emotion and that's what they constantly expect him to have. It's like when they found his head in the Presidio in San Francisco. Everyone seemed to expect him to be depressed or freaked out or something.

[@bingbong9076]

Its the same thing with Spock and Tuvok too. "WHY DONT YOU HAVE AN EMOTIONAL REACTION TO THIS EVEN THOUGH WE ALL KNOW IT ISNT POSSIBLE FOR YOU"

[@jadegecko]

It bothers me so much that Guinan doesn't even measure her ingredients and just dumps them together

[@CrispyGFX]

High level mixology. That'll be $25 please.

[@BedsitBob]

I think Data overcomplicated the situation. I suspect she just wanted to get her rocks off.

[@ZeoViolet]

She didn't succeed after six weeks with him! Watch _First Contact._ You'll figure that out.

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

She's one mixed-up junior officer.

[@allenussher5884]

As soon as it was clear where this episode was going, I had to turn away from the screen every once in a while. It felt pretty awkward to watch. I felt sorry for the Jenna character. I wish they delved into her side of things as the episode just made her seem sad and pathetic for wanting to get it on with a robot instead of a human.

[@gordoncamacho8649]

She was an idealistic fool. Data was wasting his system resources trying to make sense of her childish BS

[@jordancobb509]

How in the world did you pass up the "passionate kiss in the torpedo bay" line. Come on man I expect more!

[@halfsourlizard9319]

Actually the best part of this shit episode!

[@MichaelLongshanks]

I don't think I've re-watched this episode since it aired

[@halfsourlizard9319]

I just rewatched it and can confirm: You are missing nothing.

[@bodasactra]

Very well done my dudes, sure to take off at some point.

[@carldagroundskeeper]

Funny episode just because of the elephant in the room as far as the relationship part, you really have to wonder wtf Jenna was expecting from going out with Data.

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

She did a literal repeat of her last dude! Also, Riker and Troi completely mis-advised the situation; literal incompetence. What I found by the end is that Jenna needs an emotions chip too.

[@Elly3981]

@@RideAcrossTheRiver Jenna wanted more than Data was able to give and kept giving him mixed signals that would have driven even a human man crazy. Yet, Data still tried so hard to please her. He's not as emotionless as people or he himself thinks. Data has shown that he could care for others, even more than himself. So he's definitely capable of love as well if given enough time.

[@mikeluit3027]

Lol...this episode...was interesting theoretical episode...but why do I keep wondering if data has different speed settings in the bedroom? Oh well...a C- seems on point for me.

[@DissociatedWomenIncorporated]

The Sega Saturn is so cool! It was my second home console after the Mega Drive. It’s so hard to sit through the A plot of this episode without cringing hard, which is a shame because I really enjoy the B plot. It may be just some thrown together weirdness but I’m _always_ a sucker for a good space anomaly, side note Nagilum terrified me as a little girl.

[@chriscolabella880]

Picard pilots the shuttle because the person in the shuttle will be in the most danger and meet any threat first. He is a good leader.

[@halfsourlizard9319]

Why didn't they just use an uncrewed probe!?

[@chriscolabella880]

@@halfsourlizard9319 Why not have the Enterprise fully automated and unmanned?

[@ThePeacemaker848]

First time watching this on the air was entertaining, mostly because of the B plot being a mystery. This episode has very little replay value.

[@wayner396]

Jenna for some reason always reminds me of a dollar store Linda Hamilton. Same hair, same face, same expressions.

[@rienjen]

Take a look at the actress today. She's aged like fine wine--really beautiful.

[@wayner396]

@@rienjen same can't be said for Linda. She's curdled milk at this point

[@saturn580]

That officer who got phased into the floor had such a horrifying and pointless death. Almost makes me question the wisdom of sending a ship with 1000 people on board into an unexplored dark matter nebula instead of just using an unmanned probe instead.

[@charlesvan13]

Data is more successful than Geordi. He's had Tasha, this woman, and the Borg Queen.

[@ShamrockParticle]

True, but which one started the advances?

[@clearsmashdrop5829]

This is one of those episodes that I also will never watch again.

[@scorinth]

Trying to think about how such a relationship would actually go if someone had been able to explain that the point of a relationship is to be with someone who makes you happy and who you can make happy in turn. Lots of weird relationships that look distressingly like unhealthy codependency and creepy uneven power dynamics spring to mind. How do you make Data happy and satisfy his needs? Help keep up with his maintenance? Entertain him with weird human novelty? Meanwhile, he can provide for all of your needs, knows (or can instantly learn) everything about everything *except* forming a true emotional connection between equals. Uhhh... eww.

[@thedanespeaks]

What if you're into, like spanking your partner? Dude can't feel either pain or pleasurable pain. And you'd know he never feels pleasure in any way, ever. I would feel so unsatisfied by that. Maybe an asexual relationship, without sex, would work. Or a polyamourous relationship where you get romance and connection from someone, just not him.

[@chriscomp20]

I would love to see how yall react to issac and claire on The Orville after the strong reaction to Datas interactions with the crew

[@therealhardrock]

Drinking game of the video: take a shot every time Nick says "robot" in that condescending voice.

[@SnabbKassa]

The way Data comes out with plausible sounding but emotionally dissonant stock responses is exactly what ChatGPT does now.

[@Elly3981]

It's been a long time since I've seen STNG but I do think that Data does have emotions from the start. He just couldn't feel or express his feelings as intensely as Lore nor could he recognize them for what they were until he installed his emotion chip. He was programmed to be much more mellow and reserved because it would have been disastrous for everyone around him if Data were to ever lose his temper over anything or panic in a critical situation and screw up. Data has shown that he's capable of caring for others, even more than himself, so he's definitely capable of love as well if given enough time and patience. Jenna's problem was that she was far more attracted to Data's good looks than who he was as a person. Yet he still did his best to make her happy.

[@allenussher5884]

Also, how clever of you to remove the masks from all the previous thumbails!

[@xx3868]

Yes, i think they got the right actress as they needed someone who could be gentle and warm and vulnerable and she did a great job. Easy to watch and the B plot creaked along but i often wonder why do you need a unrelated plot if your writing is solid enough and theres enough material to have everyone part of this episode as the story plays out. They did it in voyager with Seven and the 1st officer with varying degrees of success; just wished they had better chemistry for that lot as the show could have been twice as good. hmm

[@Breffix]

So I wonder whose job it was to clean up that crew member that merged into the floor. I also wonder how they did it

[@jamesjamiem6033]

"delete this episode from my memory", LMAO!!!

[@cheradenine1980]

Sad that Michelle Scarabelli of Alien Nation fame didn’t get a shoutout here!

[@NOTHEOTHERGUY]

Where was Dr. Crusher in this episode, I wonder.

[@halfsourlizard9319]

99% sure we saw her for about 4 seconds ... but Data didn't think to ask her advice.

[@matthewnunya6329]

See you guys gotta drop TNG and review the best star trek series...DS9. All the eps and plots are A+. Yeah A+...all of them..no delusions here!!

[@demosthenes995]

I love how dumb star trek is

[@Rick_Cleland]

😮😮😮

[@miamibo1]

The music is one of the best parts. It's the official "hump" track for all Star Fleet officers and sexy Corporeal & Non-Corporeal aliens

[@HopeAndrea_HFG]

This episode was so cringey. That's all I can really say about it.

[@halfsourlizard9319]

100% there was no point to any of this ... and there could have been some interesting things exploring ... literally anything about Data's character and his attempts to be more human.

[@EdReed-r8n]

A woman thinking an emotionless robot would make a good boyfriend and then getting frustrated sounds pretty realistic actually

[@timmiller1954]

Why do you guys always call Data a "robot" when he's an "android"?

[@gordoncamacho8649]

It's bizarre. I can't figure out of it's shtick or not, but they really seem to hate Data and even avoid classic scenes if the point is to praise him

[@riverAmazonNZ]

Jenna’s behaviour was infuriatingly stupid, and Picard piloting instead of the computer doing it was infuriatingly stupid. Bad writing wasting an interesting premise.

[@GrimKhazi]

I am remembering a previous episode where cpt Picard had his ship in a life and death situation where he had to make minute adjustments at the helm. He removed Wesly to do it himself. I thought is was a good call back to that episode since he did the same here. I believe, he may think himself the superior helsmen of the ship or that he just wants to be the big deciding factor in the possible life or death of all his crew. I do see what you mean about the computer possibly controlling better. Was thier a reason the computer wasn't used unlike the previous episode?

[@KristoferOlafsson]

So many robosexuals in the future

[@matthewfischer9983]

I'm kind of an aspie, and well I kind of needed a romantic subroutine. (I'm more Spock than Data.) I think Data dodged a bullet in this one. This Jenna chick who is definitely a simpleton just wants someone to do what she expects and read her mind. In the words of Troi, "I don't sense anything... not out there... not in here." They should replace Troi with a fortune teller. However, mind reading even for Troi is a waste of time.

[@RobertTLongway]

I definitely very rarely watch this episode

[@viscountalpha]

This is an F episode. Maybe F- because it felt wrong and off. It was suffering. This episode was unwatchable back then, and worse now. it's on my TNG "do not watch list" Even D ranked stuff should be watchable again. An F rank is deserved for something not really watchable.

[@fullyvictorious]

Great

[@jamesjamiem6033]

Nick, You need to apologize to Jenna for calling her an idiot. She may want to date you. LOL!

[@chriscomp20]

Except for Troi, i feel

[@mtgoxsucks435]

Gotta give this review a B- Data is an Android, not a robot. Plus, You missed a couple potentially very good points…. Firstly when Riker says “I hope you’ll find out” (what a relationship is like), you missed adding the fact that Data f@cked Tasha in the naked now so he already found out😝 Also, the song Data sung is included in the most viewed TNG video I’m aware of. (kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJ2YhYitbNiIeNU) Would have loved you to make a nod there. Still love you guys, and just like TNG some episodes are gonna be better than others👍♥️

[@halfsourlizard9319]

ngl, Data + Tasha was kinda hot ... this was cringe af.

[@ShamrockParticle]

3:49 wow. Worf was paraphrasing Khan! 😵‍💫🤯😄 4:30 - 4:38 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂🏆 This episode probably was inspiration for Isaac and Dr Finn from The Orville. And parts of its episode Pria... 6:57 leads to the best moment. Total agreement, Data is a robot. Honorable mention for "Sega Saturn" 😅🤣🤣 Loving your reviews and summaries, thanks much!

[@halfsourlizard9319]

You know an episode is a complete piece of shit when everyone else is giving worse advice than Troi.

[@mr.a8315]

❤️

[@lelonfurr1200]

yes there are 5 toms on board spot becames pregnant

[@BedsitBob]

Did they bump uglies?

[@Rick_Cleland]

Data smashed her back doors in.

[@BTScriviner]

He is fully functional and programmed in multiple techniques.

[@Josh1Day]

F

[@DeathbyKillerBong]

good vid

[@FRACTUREDVISIONmusic]

Pretty sure a window to space in Data's quarters, is not enough to keep sane a cat stuck in a space the size of Data's quarters.