Star Wars Jedi Survivor On The "Minimum Spec" Graphics Card - Is It That Bad?

There's been a lot of negative reviews regarding the performance of Star Wars Jedi Survivor in PC, so today I thought we see how bad (or how good) it runs on the RX 580 GPU, one of the suggested minimum spec cards.
Thanks for watching :)

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Why didn't I test 1080p native I hear you ask? Well it seems that turning FSR to "disabled" doesn't turn it off. Yep, native resolution is broken lol. Not sure if it' s my machine or a bug in general but at the time of this video disabling FSR just seems to enable the "ultra performance" option, or it scales the game to a lower res, something like that anyway. Something is broken hahaha. What a mess.

[@czbrat]

Edit the config file to use 100% resolution scale then set it to read only.

[@valentinocarlozzi1447]

The graphics quality setting changes 3d resolution, so for example low quality and fsr off is 50% 3d resolution.

[@technophyle66]

the game defaults to 50% resolution scale on native for no reason, only way to fix is to edit the config file

[@Crimsongz]

Only the epic preset let you play at native resolution 😂

[@conyo985]

Yeah if you set it below the epic preset the resolution scaler will be below 100%. The trick is setting it to epic preset then tweak the individual settings below. It's a broken setting for sure. What kind of asinine decision was it to tie the scaler to the preset and why is the resolution scaling hidden in the graphics options? This game will need a lot of patches before it's in a playable state. Sad trend for PC ports these days.

[@wakingfromslumber9555]

Priceless statement , “Never thought there would be a learning curve for adjusting the menu graphics settings”

[@renaicirculation4143]

Always a great video! It's really sad that PC games nowadays are a mess. All we get are apology statement from these companies.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Yep :(

[@t3amb4sh]

This game is a mess on every platform. I've never seen EA apologizing before :p

[@renaicirculation4143]

@@RandomGaminginHD Biggest fan!

[@dyslectische]

​@@RandomGaminginHD sorry bro. Weeks a go the 1e part on steam sell for 5 euro

[@MMaRsu]

Stop buying these games before optimization reviews are outt.

[@intraspec]

I think 1080p around 60fps low settings WITHOUT FSR should be the standard for minimum specs. Upscaling techniques are great for getting older or weaker hardware but shouldn't be relied on to make a game playable

[@Jasontvnd9]

Certainly not ultra performance at 1080.p.....

[@MsMarco6]

But then it wouldn't be an accurate example of minimum settings. If they didn't use FSR then it'd make the game seen less scalable than it actually is and discourage people who have rigs perfectly capable of playing it. Minimum spec is the bare minimum for a playable experience not the minimum for a quality presentation that's what recommended settings are for. Nowadays pretty much everyone uses FSR/DLSS by default anyway, it's not just for low performance machines but even high end rigs use it to get 4k ultra at >60fps. Anyway I don't understand why you'd be ok with low texture, low models, low resolution etc but not FSR when that's the setting that gives the most bang for ya buck in terms of visual quality to performance. Also this game clearly isn't using FSR ultra performance for it's minimum spec, seeing as he raises it all the way to balanced with medium settings and still gets a good framerate, if anything the devs undersold this games performance on the low end.

[@intraspec]

@@MsMarco6 Ok, fair points. But some additional considerations. FSR upscaling varies quite a bit depending on the game. Sometimes it's near indistinguishable from native, other times it looks markedly worse even on "quality". Also FSR generally works better at higher resolutions. I believe AMD said so themselves, it's more suited to 1440p and 4K resolutions while 1080p isn't as great. I guess one of the problems is what is considered "playable" and that depends on both the player and the game. There's no one right answer so I'll take back my "1080p ~60fps low NO FSR" statement. Perhaps the best way for published min specs is the settings, resolution and framerate achieved with the suggested hardware. I know Resident Evil 4 did this and I just checked, Jedi Survivor does not. EA should take notes from Capcom

[@aleksazunjic9672]

Nope, for this kind of game (hack & slash 3rd person ) 30-40 FPS is enough to play comfortably. Frankly, with RX 580 yould even try 1080p high with some FSR.

[@MsMarco6]

@@aleksazunjic9672 Exactly, the original game was 30fps on consoles and noone had a problem with it. I and pretty much everyone else my age grew up playing games at 20-30fps on X360 and loved it. Just because 30fps isn't ideal doesn't make it unplayable and claiming that it's not even acceptable as a minimum spec is something only someone who grew up with too much money would say. PC gaming has become so elitist nowadays it's crazy, 30fps with FSR is a fine way to experience a game, its still way better than the games we grew up with so claiming its suddenly unacceptable is ridiculous. Tbh looking at this performance it runs well on the RX 580, and i know people who actually use that card will be more than happy with this, cos if they thought

[@FFox98]

Devs nowadays simply suggest a top tier old gen graphics card for "recommended" settings and throw in FSR and expect it to call it a day... Unreal Engine needs work, this game feels exactly as the previous one but with slightly more features. Additional note: What im saying is Unreal is not a "bad" engine, but if the devs are lazy under the excuse of "record time" these things will happen. And having played Fallen Order before gives me the right to say this game is more of the same but with a more cinematic touch, that's all, same mechanics same boring traveling linear level design, inefficient saving/checkpoint system. Feels like they did Ctrol C + Ctrol V in the editor and continued from where they left.

[@Boogie_the_cat]

My brother works with Unreal Engine 5 developing games for Double Fine (Psychonauts 2) Unreal Engine 5 has incredibly high polygon counts. The level he was designing had a single stone wall that was 100,000 polygons. It's incredibly detailed and complex. UE5 is optimized fine. He can design levels on an i9 3080 workstation with 128 GB RAM. It's clearly EA studios that need optimization, since the game can't even pull 60 fps on a 4090 with a 7900x3D. Game devs nowadays DO optimize their games half assed and use DLSS and FSR to get decent performance on a top of the line system and then release the messy code to Steam. It's not an unreal Engine 5 problem. Please stop making assumptions based on insufficient knowledge, and then posting comments claiming it's the truth. Please.

[@shepardvasnormandy]

This is not a UE problem at all. It's the lack of optimizations. Even a 4090 struggles to consistently stay above 60fps.

[@FlopFan69]

Devs need to stop using unreal, garbage engine

[@raresmacovei8382]

@@zackburkhart8693 RX 480 in 2016 was basically 290X/390X/780 Ti/980 top of the line 2013-2014 GPUs, only 980 Ti / Fury X being faster by a bit. They were great cards. Imagine getting a new 200$ card in 2024 with the performance of 4080 / 7900 XTX. That's not gonna happen

[@niloyck2540]

@@FlopFan69 LMFAO🤣🤣 Unreal engine is leagues ahead of any other engine out there, its just trash optimization by the devs

[@harryspapadopoulos8818]

I swear, devs-studios don't care to optimise their games anymore. It is absurd to see that a game that looks pretty close to the last one to have such bad performance. Shame

[@The.Crawling.Chaos.]

Only Id Software cares. Look at Doom Eternal. Butter smooth on old pc's and last gen consoles.

[@pottingsoil723]

@@The.Crawling.Chaos. Restricted environments create ingenious solutions. -John Carmack probably

[@The.Crawling.Chaos.]

@@pottingsoil723 Well this Jedi game is linear as fuck for the first few hours yet it can go as low as 24 fps on a 3080ti which is a joke

[@durchfaII]

@@The.Crawling.Chaos. Rage 2 exists, also Id ain't a good company either way (:

[@EarlingSteward]

@@The.Crawling.Chaos. there's a game that was released between Doom 2016 and Doom Eternal, and that game took more than a year to optimize it.

[@dyslectische]

Programming in directx 12/vulkan is more difficult than for directx 11. For example, you now have to do your own memory management, the driver did that for you first. If you don't do that properly, you run the risk of fragmenting your memory and then you quickly run out of memory, the teams of nvidia and amd have decades of experience writing good memory management routines. The combination that shaders can now be made by artists with shader graphs, with the PSO of directx 12/vulkan, causes an explosion in the number of shaders and thus long shader compile times. The shader has to be compiled differently for each GPU (and sometimes even for other driver versions) This makes it impossible to precompile the shaders for the PC (which is possible for the consoles) and has to be done during the game So i hope people now know wy a long time games are stuck on directx 11 and 12 hybrid . This is wy full directx 12 sucks . And wy we now have a memory problems on gpu side

[@slothonastick32]

Refreshing to hear an actual reason.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Ah thanks for that. Very interesting info

[@nanenab8744]

Why would any customer care about this? The end product should work properly. That's it.

[@xtechtips152]

​@@nanenab8744 Yes man. Like I get the issue for developers. But my green mint is real and it's hard earned, so it better be worth it.

[@ginyu5009]

don't care

[@sheep83]

Runs better than it does on a 4090. Nice job EA.

[@jessepearce01]

Lovely. Electronic Ass games are the best :)

[@splasherrrr]

4090 get 70 fps in 4 k wtf u talk about

[@Dar1usz]

4090 is a crap

[@MrKillswitch88]

Yea eats 21gb of vram at 1440p while only running 35-40fps while gpu utilization is locked at 50%. I somewhat feel like giving up on modern gaming if this is going to be the trend going forward for the next few years or more.

[@visceraeyes525]

@@splasherrrr 4090 cant even play at a steady 60fps

[@iNubpwn3r]

2023 gamers are basically beta testing new releases.

[@brando3342]

Yep, not only that, they are PAYING the company to beta test. It used to be that you would GET PAID to beta test. People seem to not care at all that they are being used and abused, and that’s pretty sad.

[@iNubpwn3r]

@@brando3342yes, all that for "just" 79,99€.

[@FlopFan69]

60 fps with FSR at 1080p is NOT ok. You’re running the game at 640x360.

[@cairnex4473]

...and it looks like it.

[@trackingdifbeatsaber8203]

Considering the gtx 1650 the most popular card on steam is slower a lot slower and with half the vram, this is not good.

[@beardalaxy]

Maybe if you're playing on a phone screen.

[@pengu6335]

That ultra performance was super blurry. I could even see it on my phone. Medium settings with balanced FSR didn't look too bad. What really stood out like a sore thumb was the stutter & slowdown.

[@kyosefgofa]

@@trackingdifbeatsaber8203 BTW 3060 is the new most popular GPU

[@punishedfilthyfrank7348]

lmaoooo adding Denuvo to an already badly optimized game is just asking for disaster lol

[@beardalaxy]

I didn't even know the game had denuvo and just assumed lol that explains some things.

[@punishedfilthyfrank7348]

@@beardalaxy One indicator if a game has denuvo is that if the game blocks you from playing it on other devices (say, you have to benchmark this game on another pc) and you hit that limit Second is always the performance

[@HardWhereHero]

The problem with this game is hardware scaling, it has no idea how to handle better hardware. Test it and see, go and grab your main rig, the one you use to game and edit on (i feel like you have one that has like a 3050 or 3060, I cant remember.) Put it up against the same settings on this PC that you have in the video and you will get the EXACT SAME frame rate and core utilization. This seems to be a problem between the allocation of hardware and the game actually using it. Let's say it allocates 15GB of system ram to use for the game but the game engine is only accessing like half of that amount, same issue for CPU and GPU utilization. This is an unreal 4 issue that happens to games that are brought to console and rushed to PC. However the game is also having problems on consoles too due to no optimization. DEVS DO NOT WANT TO OPTIMIZE FOR ALL HARDWARE ANYMORE!!! They release a broken mess and then they will optimize for the most used hardware, so some folks with more obscure setups may not ever be able to run the game properly, even through their hardware should allow them. Again this is a product of the gaming industry using engines like unreal4/5 and then using tech like dlss and fsr to do all the "optimization" for them. Anyone notice the quality of PC ports after DLSS and FSR became a thing? This is not Nvidia or AMD's fault because they brought this to us for people with low end hardware and devs are using it as a reason to not release a full-playable game. bullcrap.

[@pottingsoil723]

These games are also designed around the fixed function hardware in consoles -- namely, texture decompression chip and I/O accelerator which allows blazing fast asset streaming. The system doesn't get changed for PC, it's just chucked on as an afterthought. Well guess what, PC doesn't have these fixed function chips & accelerators, so the pipeline gets stuffed to bursting and the CPU goes into meltdown due to the insane # of memory heaps being shoveled in it's direction (thanks to 4K full resolution textures they are using with a texel-to-pixel ratio of 1:2 or worse) Just look at Hogwart's Legacy. It used 9.1GB VRAM at 960p (yes, 960p!!) at launch..... Now? They've alleviated the asset streaming issues and even the RTX 3070 can do 1080p/Ultra without exceeding VRAM. Wow... optimization for PC made the game run better on PC? Who would've thought! People going "It's VRAM we need more VRAM!" Clearly 24GB GDDR6X didn't help the 4090 which gets 24-45 FPS in Jedi Survivors at 1440p Ultra even when using DLSS. (And just to reiterate, I think it's perfectly acceptable to assume 12GB is the new 8GB, we do need more VRAM but this is irrelevant to the issue actually going on) THE ISSUE IS OPTIMIZATION. This is just one aspect of the horrific crimes being committed on recently launched PC games. So you're right, developers just aren't optimizing for hardware anymore. If they do it's months after the game launches and they'll only do the bare minimum to get people to shut up. But I wanted to include my 2 cents after months of research and speaking with graphics developers and programmers. I'm still investigating other issues but I believe this is the main cause of recent PC optimization woes and yes relying on DLSS/FSR is definitely being used as a crutch. Again to reiterate - these games are designed around fixed function hardware consoles have and PC does not. Lack of optimization and full stop incompatibilities mean we get games that look like last gen and require future gen hardware to run properly.

[@gottalight3574]

Pc ports has problems way before fsr and dlss came out. Ironic that these technologies were looked as giving new life the low budget gpus but instead fucking absolutely everyone

[@PrashantMishra-kh1xt]

​@@pottingsoil723 Thanks. Truer words have never been said.

[@frugalfun2.07]

Cant wait for the "Can Jedi:Survivor run without a GPU" video 😂 Incidentally, my son bought the game without paying full price and on his system with a Xeon E3 1270, 16 Gb RAM, and GTX 1650 (4GB VRAM 😂) seems playable. Hopefully it'll be better after a patch or 2.

[@Nagizak1]

I can't believe to said this but PC Master Race have been finally hit a rock with how lazy these devs are for a couples of releases games lately and seems like console is looking more appealing at this point.

[@Carnyzzle]

Not with this game, even Series X and PS5 can't hit a constant 60fps in performance mode

[@tackier52]

I just stick with indie games now, 100x more than there are on consoles and they're almost always much more fun too. Run 20x better aswell. Also cheaper!

[@iwishilivedinafreecountry5749]

Why has NO game in the last 3 years looked better than Doom Eternal while still running at a decent frame rate.

[@beardalaxy]

Idtech kicks ass that's why.

[@bpcgos]

decent ?? Doom Eternal run in awesome frame rate even on my 1060 back then

[@The.Crawling.Chaos.]

Because ID Software got actual talented people. The company were made by some of the biggest nerds. And yes I wish more would use Idtech engine for their games. Then again if they are incompetent it might not matter :D

[@oo--7714]

Doom eternal has way smaller maps with a lot less stuff going on, also artstyle. Like come on, it’s like asking why asphalt 9 looks great and runs on integrated graphics at 1080p max settings 60fps.

[@The.Crawling.Chaos.]

@@oo--7714 oh yeah, then why is Rage 2 running totally smooth as well on their engine? Large maps in that game. Also we had plenty of open world games and mmo's that ran better than recent trash releases.

[@brottochstraff]

The walking running animation is the same since last game. It looks off to me, similar to Mass Effect Andromeda before they patched it. Its like leaning to much side to side and it looks like hes constantly floating over the ground, not really affected by gravity

[@pillar.1]

i noticed the same thing too, looks awful IMO.

[@zirkoni42]

He's a jedi. Maybe he really is floating all the time.

[@puppy.shorts]

​@@zirkoni42 😂

[@64bitmodels66]

I like it. it shows that Respawn cares more about player fluidity and control than immersive animation and realism which is paramount for an action platformer like Jedi Survivor

[@TheFoolTohru]

Not just the walking animation. The running one as well. Super Janky

[@bryantallen703]

Using the mouse wheel actually changes the settings. What's even more crazy, is that Fallen Order ran at 1080p60 maxed out on a RX580 8GB with a 8700K.

[@kristijanceple6026]

fallen orders maxes out at my gtx 1650, much less an rx 580 this kind of shit is just unacceptable, and Im glad I didnt preorder or buy jedi survivor, they deserve to have to fix this shit before getting my money

[@m8x425]

2017 literally feels like yesterday to me. I vividly remember driving to Fry's Electronics on a saturday morning to pick up an i7-6700k and Z170 Maximus Hero board that were on sale. Tried this setup with an RX 480 at first but I found a deal on a GTX 1070.

[@Boogie_the_cat]

I'm so happy you covered this setup, because ALL the other KZbinrs are going to play it with systems that cost $3500-$4000 which isn't realistic. Big companies send them those GPUs to make videos, and they want to show them off. My love for PC gaming only hits a maximum of $2000 and thats after saving up for a year. Yes I'm poor. Laugh all you want.

[@Extrn1488]

I can't even afford a RTX 3070 :(. The max I could go for is a 3060 Ti

[@brando3342]

You’re not poor, you are the common man. Hello, fellow common man 👍

[@ssjgoku80]

@@Extrn1488 same bro..i could save up for new one but i doubt its gonna be much better... for them prices nowadays

[@themightylordofgoblins6880]

Wtf since when was a 2000$ pc for poor ppl tf wth bruh fr ???? Here in country a used ps4/xbone (150-200$) is mostly what the average citizen coulf afford and next gen consoles like series s are only for the rich

[@pengu6335]

​@extern extern The 3060ti is a better buy anyways. It is barely slower.

[@MsMarco6]

Brand new Patch just came out that fixes the CPU limited issue. I'm getting ~ 15fps boost on my 3070 laptop, so if anyone's worried about performance on a 580 it'd be worth checking out some post-patch benchmarks to see what improvement there is. TBH considering how quickly they got this patch out and how much of a boost it offers it's shocking that they didn't have it ready at launch. It's not a great performing game now but it's pretty average for modern heavy titles so they could've saved themselves a lot of bad press by either getting the patch ready for day 1 or delaying the launch for 3 days. Publishers seem to have forgotten that they only get one chance to make a first impression and the sales they lose through bad press is far worse than what they'd lose through a small delay.

[@rheinhardhuman4017]

Me : Looks at my pc with my RX580... RX580 : Please boss, I'm tired...

[@englematic]

Im curious to see how core count/HT/SMT affect performance. Completely untested hypothesis but when looking at CPU usage of high core count CPUs, the game doesn't appear to be leveraging all available threads, so it makes me wonder if there aren't scheduling issues afoot, hence why you're getting decent performance with your quad core i3

[@pottingsoil723]

It's reported Jedi Survivor uses 4c/4t so it is not well parallelized from what I've seen

[@gozutheDJ]

im pretty sure there are scheduling/thread usage issues.

[@pottingsoil723]

@@gozutheDJ Yes for 30-40% CPU usage something is wrong with that lol

[@pillar.1]

that moment when the minimum requirements can run the game as it is intended but recommended requirements cant 😵‍💫

[@MuchWhittering]

I've been playing on PS5 performance mode (managed to get it 2 days early) and the FPS reminds me of inFamous on PS3, where you could quite clearly see the frame rate jumping up and down, depending on what you're looking at.

[@ssm840]

is it really that bad even on performance mode?

[@cowboybenbop]

i'll take lower fps as long as its smooth, but this isn't. What i don't understand is the console gamers claiming it runs fine when it clearly does not.

[@wtf17727]

@@cowboybenbop Could be that they have VRR TVs, framerate, as long as it not flucktuates heavily, could then look pretty smooth. I saw PS5 on performance mode runs at around 50 FPS most of the time. And Quality seems to be pretty much fixed to 30 FPS with good framepacing. So either they play on Quality mode and are fine with 30 FPS or they could have variable refresh rate and that mitigates a lot of stuff, but the 50 FPS indicates that there are problems with the performance even on console, I bet performance-mode also has dynamic resolution and FSR on PS5 and it still doesn't hit consistent 60 FPS, so seems to be bad all around.

[@RisingRevengeance]

@@cowboybenbop Console gamers generally have lower standards for what's considered playable. I can agree though I'd rather take a solid 30 to it jumping up and down. Either way you shouldnt tolerate games this bad no matter if you play on console or pc.

[@cowboybenbop]

@@wtf17727 fair enough

[@AndrewRyan716]

Are there any good pc ports anymore? Days Gone was one of the few recent games that really seemed to me have been done right in terms of optimization and ran very well at launch (at least in my experience). I'm sure there have been others, but for every decent port, there are dozens of games like Arkham Knight that had their pc version handed off to a tiny team that wasn't given the time or resources to do it right.

[@thilankavithanage1891]

Ultra performance FSR is like 540p .... right? 580 should not get 50fps on 540p. That's just wrong.

[@beardalaxy]

Even lower than that. 360p.

[@Pamani_]

It's fricking 360p internal, how is that playable ?? Edit: the later medium with balanced FSR is much better.

[@cinemasanders977]

How are the controls with kbm? I had to use a controller for the first game but don't have one anymore.

[@HiltTilt]

Jedi Survivor is still Unreal Engine 4. That's what makes the lack of optimization even sadder.

[@mrlolsss]

did u enabled unified gpu usage monitoring on msi afterburner just curious

[@PrincessZoey]

Thanks for covering this, my first time seeing gameplay

[@insanepaulsen]

Keep up the good work. Love the content.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Thanks 😁

[@Z3_Edi]

So will i see performance issues under 60 fps if I have 6 gbs of video instead of 8 gbs? I easily match the other specs required to run the game.

[@coolpiano9459]

I’m running the game on 980 (4gb) at low with balanced fsr, the game runs at 50 fps for a while, but after some time suddenly drops to 20 fps, and only goes back up after 5 minutes, this often triggered by my charcter dying, but just playing the game causes this to happen I don’t know if my card is running out of vram, any ideas/

[@snicit8471]

what is the program you are using to see your stats

[@andrzejs.3139]

What motherboard do you have anlong with this i3-12100?

[@berkaithedumdum]

100 w is kinda low for that card am i wrong? i got the SE version clocked at 1430 mhz and it draws 180w at full load (tested in first game, all cranked up to epic settings)

[@MarcosCodas]

Dawid Does Tech has recently shown a bit of overhead/FPS limitation when using Afterburner, which was solved using FRAPS. It’d be interesting to get more thorough testing on that.

[@TheLastLineLive]

Fraps? That’s a name I haven’t heard in a while 😂

[@MarcosCodas]

@@TheLastLineLive it’s still around and kicking!

[@TheLastLineLive]

@@MarcosCodas last update was like 10 years ago lol

[@MarcosCodas]

@@TheLastLineLive what I meant is that it works, hehe

[@countadrian]

how about on i5-4570 gtx 950 16gb ram ddr3 can you test it?

[@aomine6817]

how on earth did you get over 60 fps with i3 when other people drop to 40s with 5800x3d?!

[@shawnlim1194]

I have an RTX 3060 but with only 6gb vram which is the only problem with my setup. should I still buy it?

[@UncannySense]

look forward to playing this game when its finished and on sale in 5 years.

[@beri4138]

2023 games are so bad I actually started going outside. Walking around the supermarket is more exciting than these games.

[@psyolent.]

Yeah the release now fix later is the MVP minimal viable product software vendors are classic for. Think of the last of us part 1 on PC ; how many iterations of patches has that been thru? I’ve had an rx580 for years and years now and its been brilliant and sufficed my gaming experience, I’m not an avid gamer so for me has been perfect. I bought another for a hackintosh build i am doing only a week ago too - brilliant card that has weathered the test of time IMHO.

[@foxboi6309]

Ayy my exact gpu on the thumbnail! Nice!

[@tenryuta]

1660 ti, 32giggles, can it run standard(1080)

[@michael-pg8fi]

Why is this game 150 gb lmao

[@game.different]

0:50 The prior game, Fallen Order, had similar weirdness with the settings menu.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Ah ok good to know, I think haha

They had time to fix it from that game... they didn't.

[@trollingisgoodforyourhealth]

can you benchmark the game with a radeon hd 8730 - radeon hd 8730M

[@pengu6335]

What really stands out to me is the stutter & slowdown more than anything. That plaques so many games nowadays, it's ridiculous.

[@chilbiyito]

The game that pissed off muta

[@RandomGaminginHD]

😂 love his videos

[@kadrix732]

@petah Imagine not.

[@PiotrPiwowarczyk]

Thanks for the video. As an owner of an RX 5700 I was worried I can't play this game. Now I will give it a go.

[@user-du1dm2ch4e]

bro i have an i5 10500 1650gtx 4 gb 16 gb ram i get 20 fps in some scenes on low graphics on Jedi fallen order i use to get 80 - 90 on high graphics any advice ?

[@ric3poversace477]

Do you think a Intel i5-4590 Gpu, gtx 750 card, 8 gb, could play it at 20 fps? I ran Lego Star Wars tss at 4k, 24-30fps and it ran great. I could never hit 60 fps, i could hit 40-50 fps if i put the resolution to 1440p i believe.

[@crapmoviereviews1878]

Love this card I have one. Loving the videos so keeping them coming

[@boredasian9445]

I have the RX580 but I keep crashing and getting BSODs with MEMORY_MANAGEMENT or IQRL error codes. It sucks man.

[@bluej511]

How does it do without fsr?

[@TheTactialLlama]

Can you cap the FPS on this game?

[@andreja3009]

Shame we did not see native performance numbers as well.

[@doomguy979]

My budget allow just buy xbox series s or build ryzen 5 2600/rx 5600 or r5 3600/gtx 1660 which would be the better choice ? İ can upgrade gpu 2 years later

[@poorsap1598]

Between the computers I would get a better cpu with a lower gpu. Like in the video an rx 580 type card for cheap and invest more in the cpu since you'll upgrade the gpu in 2 years anyways. Get a ryzen 5 5600x and a rx 580 8gb upgrade the gpu in 2 years to maybe a rx 6700xt or 7700xt type card depending on pricing of course. If you could stretch it to "future proof" get a ryzen 5 7600x on the am5 platform as you won't be really able to get much higher than that ryzen 5 5600x on am4. I don't play consoles but that would be your call.

[@THEBIGBEEFIS]

when the first game came out i had a i5 4th gen and a 1650 super and it ran fantastic.

[@CapNemoDRS]

NVIDIA: "4090!!!" .... "DLSS3!!!" Game dev: "Ok! Now without optimization..."

[@zlatto]

Seems like it has good performance on AMD cards. Wonder whether I should buy it and how it will run on my RX 6800, since my CPU is R5 3600.

[@pottingsoil723]

Idk but people with 6950XT says their GPU runs at 400W or higher so they're getting absolutely thrashed. Higher perf on AMD is likely because Jedi Survivor uses 4c/4t so it's heavily CPU bound and AMD does not suffer from driver overhead like Nvidia ergo higher FPS.

[@zlatto]

​@@pottingsoil723 wow 400W for this, its ridiculous. I can run UE 5.2 tech demos on 200W with better performance on the rx 6800 haha.

[@markojovanovic9651]

About the graphics settings, it was the exact same in jedi fallen order, idk if you played that

[@bartechh]

You're getting better performance than i am on 7900 xtx right now lol

[@The.Crawling.Chaos.]

I am thinking that since he is shooting for the lowest settings on older hardware he might avoid some bugged settings that you and others with high end pc's are using. Hope that makes sense. Try and set the game to lowest with FSR quality. Just to see how many fps you get :)

[@kelva1304]

AAA gaming is in such a sad state... there's maybe 1 decent game each year. Just lazy design all around - gameplay, optimization, bugs. They're just hoping the big IP carries the sales. At least we have indies and a LOT of games, but still.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Yeah things need to improve optimisation wise for sure

[@SavagexRaccoon]

I have an old i5 4 core cpu and a 1080ti and the game just crashes at random or in cutscenes I guess it might be time to upgrade ur dam is it disappointing

[@zt_zane2552]

I'd say AAA game have often been releasing as buggy mess's since the mid 2010's well before dlss and fsr were a thing, if anything the scale of AAA games combined with harsh deadlines and crunch are what is leading to such a poor performance rather than a reliance on up-scaling especially when indie games don't seem to be suffering the same performance issues when they appropriately scale their projects

[@bdhale34]

About the time Denuvo came ont he market and became the go to DRM software... interesting.

[@kylewagenaar5786]

My 2080Ti seems to do 4k 60fps on high with fsr quality for 10-20 minutes and then it drops to 30fps and stutters to the point its unplayable

[@Beisepimp]

I've tested the game with the RX 480 8GB and with Low settings ( Medium Textures) and FSR on Quali it was really good playable , slightly under 60 FPS . The RX 6500XT can also run this game, but the stutters are more there because of the 4GB . :')

[@juaccoz]

Yep las GPU con 4gb de vram ya tienen sus días contados, porque las de 8 ya andan medias al límite en algunos juegos

[@flegetonte8491]

You were playing lower than 720p I think.

[@Beisepimp]

@@flegetonte8491 It was 1080p, but with FSR on Quali, so it could be an upscaled 720p. 🙂

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

@@Beisepimp Settings used ?

[@Beisepimp]

@@DragonOfTheMortalKombat For the RX 6500XT : 1080p - low settings (FSR on Quali) For the RX 480 8GB : 1080p - low settings (Medium textures) + FSR on Quali This was also at the beginning of this game as in this video, so i can warry later on.

[@aboveaveragebayleaf9216]

Almost maxing out 8 gigs of vram at what is that 50% of 1080p?

[@megaranc5430]

what software did you use to monitor cpu gpu

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Msi afterburner

[@RisingRevengeance]

It's not even just various pc hardware having issues, they haven't even made it run well on consoles.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Yeah I’ve heard that too :/

[@Healcraft]

never used fsr on 4k but 1440p or 1080p i just cant really stand looking at it

[@Chris-yc3mm]

Learning curve for adjusting graphics setting. Try some jrpgs they have terrable menu controls on pc too.

[@diggertheminer]

before the performance patch i could get 1080p low at 30fps (fsr quality) on 4gb 580 after the patch im around 60

[@JJMand]

I wonder if my old gtx 570 gainward could handle this game at 720p

[@SuperShermanTanker]

Would have loved to see how it runs native without FSR even if it was just a quick 5-10 second clip

[@adaw90]

My modest specs: Rx 580 4 gb on auto overclock through amd software Ryzen 7 1700 16 GB ram 2666 mhz A320m-k Mainboard Latest amd patch The game is installed on a dedicated 256 GB SATA 3 SSD. Windows 10 I had some strange experience: First level/planet had very bad performance. I had to play 720p, low, but with fsr set on quality. I was around 30 FPS, with some dips under 20 - during some cinematics and sometimes when the game was loading assets. Lowering fsr did nothing. If I set it to 1080p, the game was around 26-27 FPS. The image quality was bad. Also, the GPU showed 100 percent usage, even though it was around 40-50 degrees and quiet during gameplay. In the menu it was getting really loud with around 70+ degrees. BUT!!! On the second planet I had between 60 and 80 FPS! I switched from 720p to 1080p, again at low, and I was having the same results. Then I set the game settings to medium and am having between 40 and 60 FPS. There are some dips around 30 , but it's much more playable. There is also some asset and texture popping, no matter the settings (though more frequent on the second planet) I got through the first level because I had previously played 1/3 of the first game with similar settings and am used to such performance. Recommendation: If you can stomach poor performance the first hour and a half of the game, you will have better experience on this modest hardware. Also, I recommend you turn off the FPS counter, in reality the game feels better than the FPS show. If you are patient, just wait for the next digital foundry performance test. Don't search anything else "jedi survivor" on KZbin, you will get spoiler thumbnails. That's why I bought the game. Don't be afraid to test the game on hardware lower than the minimum requirements! Have fun testing!

[@RichardMontgomeryYT]

will a 5500xt do much better than this>?

[@thedreadedgman]

3:53 "This seems like more of a GPU intensive title" famous last words!!

[@lightwing1096]

I heard that once you get past the first world the performance gets better but I'm not sure

[@gooddrugs649]

Can you check some older cpu's in some demanding titles like this?for example 4790k, 3770k, 7700k or/and some AMD counterparts.

[@Morgan423Z]

As someone who daily drives a Steam Deck, I'm going to hold off on this one until it gets its optimization treatments. JFO worked great after some tweaking, with a solid non-stuttery 40 FPS most times... really hoping that this will eventually live in the same neighborhood in the future.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Yeah good idea

[@oo--7714]

Eh I’m probably gonna sell my steam deck, the performance in newer games ain’t good. The device hits its limits too many times. In 2 years these handhelds might be feasible but for now no (the rog ally seems to be like the bare minimum for newer games)

[@wekkimeif7720]

It is sad that games on PC are often nowadays built for temporal AA and break if you try to make them run at native resolution. Like red dead redemption 2 all graphic rendering breaks if TAA is disabled

[@candidosilva7755]

You never played the first one? The ui was exactly the same.

[@Ryan-xn3mt]

I'm gonna wait for this to get patched, and possibly a sale before I jump in. I'm tired of game companies releasing broken buggy games. Great video though, I enjoy your content. I have to say, those 570-580 cards were amazing performers given their price point.

[@tamoghnamaitra9901]

I kid u not the UI control in the settings is like a mini boss battle

[@joshj88]

I wonder if the AMD cards work better then nVidia for shaders and etc. and of course GCN vs RDNA differences might matter too.

[@SerjStar]

I heard people saying like getting 20 fps on a 3080 wich is weird

[@bcsr4ever]

Just played this on my old 2600X/1060 system at medium 1080 with FSR as a test. Averaged around 45 fps and quite playable.

[@physxme]

4:31 the game's only on current gen consoles with fast ssd's (and PC) and they still had to use that "squeeze through tight hole" game design?

[@Bodneyblue]

I want to see how well "S.T.A.L.K.E.R 2: Heart of Chernobyl" runs on low end setups. And what it takes to run it well...WHEN it comes...(been waiting for years and years).

[@gottalight3574]

They have a legitimate excuse for releasing the game with poor optimization, still not okay but i will understand why that could happen

[@poorsap1598]

My daughter hasn't complained about the ryzen 7 2700x and rx 5600xt i built her years ago for this game. I was curious about rhe 6gb of vram, hut someone mentioned that with the compression ots not bad with 6gb, but I'd probably avoid 4gb of vram for this game.

[@kyperactive]

English mf, do you speak it?

[@itsKtoday]

I have a ryzen 5 3600 and gigabyte rx5600xt 6gb I was curious is I could even run this game

[@blaster-vv8so]

Its good to see some test with and Intel cpu most of the problems seem to be with amd. if you have and amd cpu you should test it as well see if you get less than 100 percent gpu usage.

[@bigboyud]

can you test the 1660 super if you can 😁😄

[@paulie_tremolo]

Ouch, it seems my 1060 & 2700x would kinda struggle running this, i'm curious how it would run on a steam deck. And no, the trend of "release now, fix later" started a while back, facilitated by the inclusion of ethernet ports on mainstream consoles, especially proliferated during the ps4/xbone generation. Cheers!

[@armandopineiro4022]

I mean your getting much better than me I cant even get a stable 30

[@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716]

Whrn i installed the game, the first popup said EA Recommends a controller. Clearly the menu were built for a controller first keyboard second

[@dodgydruid]

Am always surprised you never feature Train Sim World or Microsoft Flight Simulator, both titles that push PC limits quite hard and are made in that flash new building next door on the dockside of the old Rochester station so you could prob wangle a guided tour if you fancied to see how games are actually made.

[@wozzablog]

TrainSim world 2 was BRUTAL on my PC at any settings. It definitely doesn't get the respect it deserves as a minimum -spec torture test

[@delowardark3541]

nah im not sick of it in fact please make more video about rx 580.keep testing it

[@TC-tn9tb]

my brother has a 4090 he messaged me saying he can only get 40fps and that his gpu usage was only at 40% and couldn't get it to go to 100.