Star Wars Legion Battle Report: Episode eighty four CIS vs 501st

[@czarvak9186]

I can't wait to see Ventress vs Ashoka! and I want to see the 3 Sith list!

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

I can’t wait for Ashoka! Thanks for watching! -Joe

[@jwaterdrag]

Watching the spiders walk up and immediately get shot to pieces, I felt that in my bones. But it was nice to see Ventress come in and do work

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

Yeah she was good...the spiders were more user error...-Don

[@zackduncan5219]

Nice to see Asaajj Ventress on the table. She's very interesting and unlike all the other saber and force users. I also like that she came with a Dooku card, even for just the flavor. I know a lot of people were pooping on the 501st Battleforce when it came out but it seemed to do well. And Anakin is sooooo much better with the little tweaks to his Command Cards.

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

I agree on all the above. It’s amazing how Anakin went from meh… then a small point drop and small changes to his command card and boom he is very good. Thanks for watching! -Joe

[@mileshatch3804]

It’s nice to see Asajj working with Dooku. Little does he know Miss Ventress is plotting his demise so that she can have all the power!!

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

I mean he tries to kill her first...-Don

[@tomsyn]

i love how ventress likes to m- assajj obi wans ego as they fight

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

Thanks for watching! -Joe

[@theoneleggedraven1940]

My 3d printed list is growing and Ventress is in the lineup for the next run in March! Awesome stuff!

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

She has some good alt sculps -Don

[@jameswoodward280]

I like that Ventress sculpt

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

Thanks for watching! -Joe

[@terrorkiks9223]

good old cis vs rep on geonosis loved it and nice alternativ model fpr ventress as well :D

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

Yeah I don't like the regular sculpt at all -Don

[@brantschafer4735]

The first of the venture of the Ventress and Dooku. Thanks for the battle! It is nice to see the new characters.

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

Thank you for watching! -Joe

[@jasonadkins8434]

Awesome game, "I want that back" "don't worry, red isn't my color"

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

Haha right -Don

[@Jakyub]

That’s a cool custom Ventress. She’s has a cool arc in the series also. A good addition to legion for sure.

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

Yeah I like her redemption-Don

[@battlereadygaming]

Love that Asajj mini so much more! Would love to eventually see a Bounty Hunter version of her.

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

I mean, her card gives her bounty -Don

[@matthewrodriguez4059]

Been a watcher for a while now! Love the content! Especially the Legion Batte Reports. I really appreciate the pre-battle report vignettes. They add a nice flair that most other channels don't have. As someone who doesn't yet play Legion I also appreciate knowing the rules as well. Keep up the good work! This is such a good channel. I've always enjoyed dual wielders like Asajj Ventress, so it's cool to see her in Legion now!

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

Thanks for watching and for the great comment! -Don

[@alexvayhinger7704]

Every time I hear Republic players complain about the cost of their clones (and that is A LOT), I have zero sympathy for them. I point out the power of fire support and that there is no defense against overwhelming hits. Heavy cover, low profile, dodges all run out. Red defense dice can’t hold back that many hits either. It’s just ridiculous and clone players cover their eyes to this fact and complain even harder and their cost. Sad, just sad. The Salt Crown was definitely warranted directly because of fire support this game. Fire Support killed both Spider droids and finished off Dooku. Almost always a negative play experience for the other player. Wish they’d fix it somehow. Okay, stepping off the soap box now. Loved Asajj even though your post game analysis was probably correct that she should have gone up the middle towards the bulk of the clones. Also, this is the first video in a long time where you guys didn’t work in, “Star Tours, What are you doing here?” My wife look at each other and laugh every time…almost waiting for it like some running joke. Made us sad. Maybe next video. Love you guys…keep doing what your doing. And roll out those MCP videos when you can. Can’t wait to see em.

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

Thanks for watching, star tours doesn't go on all our tables. But we try to get it out often. We just filmed our first mcp the other night so that will be out soon! Firesupport is very strong for sure. -Don

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

Clones are strong but few, so the cost does hurt. Empire also has red def dice and are running the Meta right now. They cost a lot less. Happy with the point drops on clones, but they need a bit more on some of their other units. Also would love some non clone unit options for the republic :) thanks for watching! -Joe

[@alexvayhinger7704]

@@graysquadrongaming8670 I’d love it if they toned it down somehow. Maybe changed fire support to like a once per game per unit.

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

I don’t think fire support needs to be toned down personally. You have less activations then most and need a face up order. Also you have to really set it up to work well. And more and more units are coming to other factions with fire support. Just my thoughts. Thanks again!

[@hawkthetraveler6344]

@@alexvayhinger7704 maybe half the dice like a saber throw but you still get all the good key words for good swiss army knife abilities but not so overwhelming of a dice pool.

[@dokb1942]

Good game, surprised to see Ventress and excited to see her on the table more.

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

She will defiantly make a splash in the meta. Thanks for watching! -Joe

[@raxenladevaldak1749]

I was a little surprised to see Ventress run off to fight the ARCs, but otherwise I'm impressed at her performance. Nearly clearing two activations in one turn is some Vader level strength.

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

Yeah once she got there she hurt the clones. Luckily it was too late. Thanks for watching ! -Joe

[@Emperor_Atlantis]

Yea CIS litterly had nothing to do deal with vader properly. This will change now. In my local meta this is what the faction needed.

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

Yeah ventress is very good at killing force users -Don

[@sergiozurron9738]

Ventress and Dooku combo it's quite rough, but not so much as see the spider droids get smashed into rubble, love the custom assassin, she looks deadly indeed

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

Thanks I like that sculpt much more -Don

[@DeegoBix]

It was great seeing Ventress for the first time in Legion.

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

Thanks for watching! -Joe

[@Weaponx908]

The salt is strong with this one

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

Usually yes -Don

[@bwild7859]

I’m excited for ventress! Should run an all the sabers list, four with grevious, one with dooku, double blade with maul, and two more with ventress. Would be chaos!

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

It would be fun, but no points anywhere for upgrades -Don

[@kaz9357]

I just whallopped a 7 saber list this weekend with Vader, so very curious to see Assajj making a 9 sabers list. See how that works ! She seems like a beast, might need to focus her down.

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

She can do some real work, especially with peirce and her marksmanship ability and dodges -Don

[@JayOttawa]

Great game! Good call for the new house rule…salt crown =surge to hit! Haha

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

Haha wouldn't that be nice -Don

[@shadowscout0013]

Nice job. I was excited to see how well asajj did and she did pretty good. Thanks guys for posting this early!

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

Thanks for watching! -Don

[@meh13131]

Very happy to finally see Ventress come to the game

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

Yeah she feels very strong

[@happesushi]

Ventress seems pretty good, it is interesting that you can run a legal meme list with grievous, dooku, ventress and maul. I kinda can see the argument for her not using throw because its only black dice with no surge, and jar kai can only be used in melee. Hope to see more unreleased units.

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

With relentless though it's hard not to -Don

[@danielphelps2138]

Good to see Asajj put some hurt out. Very impressive damage output. Things just went sideways for the rest of her team. I’m wanting to try Ventress and Kalani together. I even named the list as if they were a power couple: Kalajj.

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

Haha sounds news worthy -Don

[@Maegorod]

Awesome game! Looking forward to playing a Ventress vs Obi-wan game, packed full of sarcastic and cheeky remarks

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

Haha that sounds about right

[@Hu9DS24]

Thats a really cool Ventress sculpt

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

Thanks it's much nicer then the regular one -Don

[@Zeromus5555]

Joe cheated at 15:30. I've seen him do this a few times. When moving a notched base you MUST start the move and end the move with the movement tool in the notch. Otherwise you're giving yourself extra centimeters every turn, and that adds up!

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

We play a little fast and loose sometimes with the movement tool, the painted tool and bases also make it hard to put them in -Don

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

Ummm… that’s don moving the CIS not me. But either way we don’t cheat. We just move them like don said above. Thanks for watching! -Joe

[@Zeromus5555]

@@graysquadrongaming8670 Soft cheat* lol. Just use a knife and clean out the slot a bit?

[@danielbungay8924]

Asajj looks scary to me. Anakin once loaded with all his cards is incredible.

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

Yeah asajj is going to be strong, and anakin is very solid once fully built -Don

[@hawkthetraveler6344]

I thought Don was gonna get in there on the flank and just relax into a comfy m`Asajj ... looking forward to a rematch when you've got some additional reps with her. Love seeing the matchup from the same era!

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

Yeah I have had another game with her that was much more successful-Don

[@travisskane5459]

Always enjoy the post game discussion, and even more so when featuring a new release. Thanks for the thoughts on Ventress, seems like a flexible unit.

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

She is very solid, just possibly fragile -Don

[@kingbobb007]

I’ve only played Dooku Ventress once, but finding a way to safely deliver them both to where you want them to be is key. I used a Persauder and Scanner droids to keep them alive long enough to make a difference. I’m worried that 7 activations won’t be enough against the current Empire lists.

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

No you need to get to 8 or 9 minimum-Don

[@sharkybrickfilms99120]

I'm waiting for a Toydarian Invasion Battle force with Ventress as commander and some sort of gimmicky wave mechanics with new command cards. For example a wave of B1s, then B2s, Droidekas and AAT(s).

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

That would be cool for sure -Dob

[@keldonlarose9944]

Ventress. There's my super sick cool comment for the day to get entered in for the real Sith.... Darth Grogu!

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

Thanks for watching-Don

[@justinmeyers5535]

What ever happened to AMG releasing Ewoks? I can’t wait for Asajj to come out.

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

They are coming :) thanks for watching!

[@kuriouskoopatroopa3129]

Love these battle reports! Could you guys do Gar Mandos vs Sabine Mandos?

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

We did that already -Don

[@501stclonecommander8]

6:30 when he coordinated with the b1 battle droids he could have placed that last order onto the magnaguards as they are also droid troopers

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

Yeah I must have missed it -Don

[@501stclonecommander8]

@@graysquadrongaming8670 Also coordinate counts as an order from the command card along with the Direct keyword so when Dooku gave dodges to units he orders, all the droids gain dodges. Very fun how direct and coordinate works

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

It depends on the wording of the command card. Dooku card specifically. Says when he issues an order, so coordinate would not work for each unit cause he didn’t issue the orders. Thanks!

[@kyleclark3364]

Does the Ventress have her Bounty Hunter helmet on? If so I think that's a lot cooler than the official model.

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

It is indeed! Thanks for watching! -Joe

[@chrishoobler522]

Great game. I can't wait to see ventress hit the tables.

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

Yeah my second non recorded game was awesome! She is a beast when played correctly-Don

[@V1ctoryGin]

Great stuff! Loved seeing Ventress in there!

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

She is very cool -Don

[@StormtrooperYD]

Ventress looks so fun. I have always had trouble playing Maul so maybe Ventress will work with me

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

Yeah she is very solid-Don

[@haydnchamberlain3740]

Did they change force choke, I was under the impression it was just a range one thing? Jedi/ sith sorcery

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

It was not changed. It’s a range one non commander/operative. The unit I chocked was at range one. Thanks for watching! -Joe

[@atleymiller6181]

Just got my half of a core set today. Clone came with the wrong leg. Also do you find the barc speeder loose om it's peg? Do you think we will see a bounty hunter ventress?

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

I do not, but you never no. I think that’s why the gave her the command card that allows her to get bounty. Th aka for watching!

[@jesperkjr]

Good game as always Loved seeing Asajj in play 🤩 she's a beast 💪

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

She is great ,Dob

[@evanstrong4064]

are those poker chip activation tokens? so cool!!!

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

They are indeed! Thanks for watching! -Joe

[@maddogtannen69]

awesome job guys

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

Thanks for watching -Don

[@taskforce417renegades3]

I’m excited for Ventress, but I believe I’m even more excited for Cody now that he’s been announced!

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

As soon as his cards are released he will be proxies!-D0n

[@Firefly00989]

Ventress looks like a good edition to the CIS. Nice game as always and seeing GAR win is a good bonus.

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

Haha she is going to be very strong -Don

[@andersmalmby8258]

I din’t Think That Barc (partial) compulsery move into The bunker is legal. You have to make a legal compulsery move if able

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

Thanks for watching! -Joe

[@Matthew8897]

Great game. Good to see what Asajj can do, just a shame she didn't get into it a bit sooner. Can't wait to see her again

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

She will be back for sure -Don

[@sepulchralmoon8841]

In the words of Miss Ventress “The Jedi will Fall”

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

Yeah for sure! -Don

[@isaacmackey1950]

I'm torn on Ventress on if she'll be the flanker from Hell or if she needs to stay with the main battle group.

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

She is flexable enough to do both I think -Don

[@Reeeeeeeess]

It’s Ventress baby!

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

Thanks for watching -Don

[@werewolfcomics]

I can't wait to get Asaaj on the table. Now we just need Savage to complete the collection.

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

Yeah thatbwould be bad ass -Don

[@TheDarthMader]

Sad Ventress had no chance to do a lot, i think she is a little to strong and has very much potential. Similar to the clone wars where she sadly gets betrayed by doku. However in the game they work really well together.

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

They really do -Don

[@josephsiessmayer6458]

Quick question about arcs. Is it generally better to load them out with a bunch of different upgrades, (Echo, transponders, stims, up close and personal, and targeting scopes in my scenario.) or with just a heavy weapon? Or with jut upgrades and no heavy?

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

Depends on your army and what you want them to do. But I try to add a heavy and 1 upgrade and stop there if able to keep cost under control. Thanks for watching! -Joe

[@josephsiessmayer6458]

@@graysquadrongaming8670 What upgrade woul you pick f you could only pick one? I'm thinking scopes just because they can accumulatee aims esily, but please let me know what you think.

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

Depends on if you want them to add a bit more offensive then scopes is not a bad choice. They are expensive units so I play a bit more defensive and go SA.

[@johnhalbauer4425]

I love the character of asajj, she has a ton of story potential with the witches.

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

She does, she had a great book as well -Don

[@jtmurphy9241]

Praise Ventress for the protection of Quinlan.

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

Thanks for watching -Don

[@logansett1400]

Excited for ventress, it’s nice to get another new force user. I’m a sucker for lightsabers what can I say

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

She is a lot of fun! -Don

[@charlesfox4449]

ventruss is almost enough for me to pick up a Droid army. her and dooku are awesome characters in the clone war shows.

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

Yeah the droids have some fun hero options -Don

[@charlesfox4449]

@@graysquadrongaming8670 just not sure I want to build and paint that many Droid troops lol

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

Just buy an army someone is selling prepainted...problem solved haha -Don

[@richardobrien5134]

You can choke any mini, you do not need LoS to use force powers

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

I didn't realize that -Don

[@Daan_Dubach]

Hey anyone read the Dark Disciple novel? Was good, and love to see her on the field!

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

Yeah I've listened to the audio book of that one twice, it's a very good one of my favorites -Don

[@jordanvozenilek1092]

GG guys. As-odge Ventress maybe? Eh?

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

Thanks for watching -Don

[@blakefoltz5872]

I think Ventresses attack pool was a little too uch, but other than that I think she's fairly balanced

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

This wasn't a great use of her -Don

[@chriskempf6787]

Where does VENTRESS VENTRESS VENTRESS(so 20 entries per mention?)..haha where does she show up?

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

What do you mean where? -Don

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

What do you mean where? -Don

[@chriskempf6787]

Sorry in what series or movie does she 1st appear?

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

Oh she is in the clone wars cartoon -Don

[@benc8738]

Dude they soooooo need to add more jedi for republic. Plo Koon should be in and the fact that Mace is not in the game is a travesty.

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

Yeah they really have been lacking for some reason -Don

[@jscott20002278]

Does anyone notice how these guys definitely stretch their measuring when it comes to movement....yall could never play competitively

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

We pre measure everything off camera, things might get moved or bumped in that process, but we know what we are doing and both have played competitively without issue. Thanks for the positive comment

[@graysquadrongaming8670]

Both of us have played at Gencon, adeptiocon and done very well. Everything is measured off camera as Don says to keep the video going and save time. Thanks for watching though. -Joe