Star Wars Squadrons - minimal HUD and head tracking is a rush

So yeah, being an old fan of the Xwing and Tie fighter series, squadrons definitely both made me interested and also initially alienated me with it's weird hybrid gameplay that's halfway between arcade and space-sim -- but after giving it a second try with everything maxed out, minimal HUD, and HOTAS plus head tracking -- well, let's just say I might be playing a bit more like this.

[@shortstuff780]

This game needed more love. It was fantastic, hard, and engaging. Yet no advertisement, no fan base, kinda died faster then it should

[@javkiller]

I fear they completely missed their built in fan base with it. They tried to build a hero arc with the setting and sensibilities of the one trilogy everyone dislikes. A large part of the appeal of the x wing trilogy was experiencing the pilot life of a random dude working his way through the conflict, slowly becoming an ace as the campaigns roll. But for the most part you got to live the world from the ground level, experiencing being a small cog on the greater machine of an army. This game, as spectacular as it is, misses the mark on that completely. Such incredible wasted potential.

[@masteryoda7207]

​@@javkiller What do you mean the one trilogy everyone dislikes? This is set closest to the original trilogy, it's still the Galactic Civil War before the battle of Jakku.

[@Christian_Maoist.]

Not really. It was a watered down mediocre version of the rogue squadron games.

[@johnsledge3942]

In VR it’s absolutely breathtaking

[@acidtwin]

I think it was more the lack of replayability. The main multiplayer mode was pretty awful. The single-player was great though.

[@Mirage0153]

It took me forever to realise this, I was sucking balls at flying through and through, until I went for the minimal option despite the warning. I don't play VR so I don't have head tracking, but this is a huge QoL improvement.

[@korofrog]

I don't know this guy's setup but there's TrackIR which isn't VR. It's infrared trackers similar to how a wiimote works with it's tracking.

[@korofrog]

@@thatzaliasguy quick Google search says that as of update 4.0 it does

[@stevenmendoza472]

YES.... All Space Games take note Minimal HUD

[@Rochon_]

ahh hahahh simmer down before the star citizen enjoyers hear you.

[@Sniperboomheadshot49]

Good for immersion terrible for gameplay

[@LockOn7016]

@@Rochon_ i mean realistically you could never have a hud like this in a real space sim. star citizen is a bug messy but this looks like star citizen for dummies lmao

[@Caligari87]

That poor TIE at 10:56 got absolutely shamrocked by like three people at once.

[@CognizantCheddar]

Poor life choices will do that.

[@omgwtfbbqkitty]

Looked link more than that. Maybe even 5 total including the player. It was at that moment...

[@DyingTiger]

X-wing from 1993 also had minimal hud.

[@mayonnnnnaise]

I wish this game had allowed me to remap pitch and yaw. I don't want to play with a controller, I don't have money for a joystick, and I just couldn't get over how it was mapped. I'm envious of anyone who got to play with a super immersive experience like this.

[@fuzzywuzzy1355]

You can remap the controls though. At least I was able to on PS4

[@XJNautilusEX]

i remapped both the ps4 and pc versions. So you should be able to do the same.

[@mayonnnnnaise]

@@XJNautilusEX ! thanks for the heads up. You could not change either pitch and yaw or roll. It might be the roll. It's been a long time since I played. I'll give it a shot again!

[@wysoft]

This is the first time I've seen or heard of this game. I didn't realize there was a modern equivalent of the old X-Wing & TIE Fighter games. I played those a ton as a kid and this ticks all the same boxes. Gotta play this now

[@gruud6700]

If you're patient, it often goes on sale on Steam for $6.50

[@shade9272]

The old tie fighter games are so much better. Graphically the new one is sick, especially in VR, but overall gameplay and adherence to the star wars universe tech guide (tie fighters should not be as durable as they are in this game) is weak.

[@Person-jw7mk]

In my opinion, the new game is not nearly as good as the old games. In the new game you're a part of a 5 person mixed-ship squad, and that's really the only allies you have on missions. You want a bomber? You only have one Y-wing. You want an interceptor? You only have one A-wing. You don't get the feeling of being a smaller cog amongst multiple 12-ship squadrons (no mixed ships within a squadron) like the old games. Also the enemy AI cheats hardcore on the hardest difficulty, instead of just flying better. You might want to check out the Upgrade mods for the old games instead!

[@jpfr624]

Equivalent is definitely not the right word lol

[@connorbaz5980]

@@Person-jw7mk where can someone find those mods? ModDb or Nexusmods?

[@thestooge200]

Nice to see Pigde joined up with a new team after Voltron fell apart!

[@mauryhatcher]

Minimal HUD and VR with a Quest 2 is fucking _outstanding_ in this game, you truly feel like you're in the cockpit. Played through multiple times it was so good. Hell, I think I'm going to fire it up again this weekend in fact now that I'm thinking of it!

[@buzzfunk]

Can you play it in VR even if you bought it via the EA app? Or does it have to be steam?

[@mauryhatcher]

@@buzzfunk I believe it's natively supported in the game, I did buy it via Steam but I believe it's the game engine that enables a VR support - I'll play it in the next day or so and respond again when I've had a chance to try to check that

[@Olivier.Colonna-Comedien]

I play with hotas VKB and warthog throttle and head tracking, the game is very very good, gameplay excellent.

[@MichelangeloDraconis]

Nice vid and yeah of course is great. And headtracking is also included in Virtual Reality awesomeness And here in this video you are still seeing the game in a 2D hardware as a monitor/tv. With VR you not only gain the headtracking but also the true stereoscopic 3D and an entire 1:1 scaled world around you. Instead of seeing your room you will be seated on an X-wing. That is the priceless feature of VR, you are literally inside the games.

[@joepwrsurge]

Great video... Best Star Wars in-cockpit since Tie Fighter.

[@rokinz3270]

those hit boxes on the ties seem a bit generous

[@tunabreath11]

@@Jay_Reacts_REAL There actually is baked into the game mechanics, but it's not explicitly explained. All the cannons have some degree of a guided, gimballed cone which enlarges the allowable aiming error and gives the impression of big hitboxes. Guided cannons have large allowable error but do less damage, standard cannons in the middle, burst cannons have very little allowable error but do more damage.

[@dominicm6144]

Awesome! Nothing beats star wars space fights.

[@monostripezebras]

man, that looks nice!

[@its-butters58]

This is how this game shouls be played

[@IKhanmakeWAR2]

one of the best games to play in VR

[@Tesla7]

playing it in vr is so much fun

[@HyperspaceCafe]

Straight up Anakin Skywalkerin it in there!

[@josephwimerYoYoYo]

I really tried to get into this game since I played ALL the Xwing and Tie Fighter games religiously. Unfortunately as great as this game is at telling a story it is very limited in the simulation category. If you haven't tried Elite Dangerous then you may not understand, but I was hoping for a much more realistic flight model.

[@liukang85]

how I would play it. Is there a no HUD option?

[@ArbyTV]

Lol i remember at launch you couldn’t re-map acceleration or deceleration to the scroll wheel but you could do the other (I don’t remember which one wasn’t allowed). Last time I checked it still wasn’t fixed. Crazy how something so simple was ignored even after multiple posts on reddit

[@DaDoubleDee]

This looks a lot of fun, but the ui crosshair and targeting recitals aren't very good looking, it could definitely use an uplift

[@ProGamingProphecy]

Are you playing with Joystick, Mouse & Keyboard, or Console Controller?

[@Keys879]

I would really love a DC Combat style Star Wars fighter game...

[@basedeltazero714]

That'd be difficult with the inconsistent and frankly insane mechanics. Closest thing that I can think of is like, Rogue System, but that got cancelled before it ever really developed.

[@revanamell1791]

Are the controls still goofy? I remember them being weird. Played a lot of flight games and it was an awkward experience.

[@No1sonuk]

I played X-wing so much it was like muscle memory - even coming back to it on Steam after years away didn't take long to get back into it.

[@revanamell1791]

@@No1sonuk can't remember exactly but there's something about either controls or physics that bugged the shit out of me.

[@jinchoung]

they finally get trackir support?

[@jklappenbach]

This game is really good with VR.

[@dimitriosdesmos4699]

dope

[@cokyrobes]

wow they nailed this game! - I can't wait for someone to do a quality game like this but in Warhammer 40k!

[@TheSarinaide]

lock x foils into attack position

[@UnclePengy]

Reminds me of Freespace 2.

[@Imperial8933]

That mission is a pain when playing on Ace difficulty. Those TIEs keep flying circles around you and firing like crazy. Not sure how to shake them off.

[@icanhazgoodgame3845]

Try spinning that's a good trick.

[@Imperial8933]

@@icanhazgoodgame3845 thank you for the Star Wars meme quote. 🥳👍

[@CognizantCheddar]

@@Imperial8933 It's fair play when the usage is so appropriate for the setup.

[@Imperial8933]

@@CognizantCheddar it may be fair to the ai but as a player, it’s rather unfair being shot down a lot of times. I tried drifting and going half speed to turn faster, nothing seems to be working to get the jump on them. But maybe that’s not the worst thing. I mean I’ve played online multiplayer, and the players are even more difficult to catch up with in speed, maneuverability, and firepower.

[@CognizantCheddar]

@@Imperial8933 My guy, I was referring to the (tired) meme quote. 😆 Yeah, I'm sorry, I don't have any useful advice for the game. 😅 I want to play this, but people told me the experience is a waste without a VR setup.

[@williamolsen5904]

Make sure you don't get some guy pissed i stole there noodle cups and only evil - willy 0

[@dinkmartini3236]

Games are just always going to have cringe banter. It's like a check box. "Well, we' ve finished and we're ready to ship!" "Hey, wait a minute, we still have to tack on some pointless yammering that is cringe to start with and then gets tedious as hell starting with the second time the user hears it!" "Oh, right. I forgot. Let's do that. The players expect it."

[@NardoVogt]

Does Squadrons now allow headtracking?

[@NapalmAtSunrise]

Yes you need a VR headset

[@MikMoen]

They didn't get the scale of that SD right, it's not nearly big enough.

[@doyoulikeworms3151]

I was just thinking that. I dunno what it is about SW games and nerfing cruiser sizes but I swear every single one does it. The new BF2 is horrible in this regard, it is blatantly obvious in space battles that a single tie fighter is damn near taller than the hangar well is deep. Weirdly tho the scale when you interact with them during ground battles feels mostly correct, though still smaller than they should be, so obviously they knew what they SHOULD be doing. There's a campaign mission that takes place on the exterior of the SD and the scale is damn near perfect. One day I will play a SW game that lets me truly appreciate the true scale of an SD :(

[@Kopie0830]

why is the voice of fox of metal gear solid here?

[@ttq3661]

One complaint...you boost too often when dog fighting and that causes bad manuverability

[@TheFluffyDuck]

The only thing that shat me with this game was the servers. Absolute disgrace.

[@igrok5549]

😁

[@Boemel]

tried this game a few times for VR but ,never got it to work and refunded.

[@EQOAnostalgia]

Lol the flight sim nerds losing their minds in the comments.

[@yamapikarya215]

They cant stand a simple game like this, like everything they touch has to be a borefest of reading a manual for a month just to even know how to start the engines of a virtual plane.

[@Nurhaal]

I'm so used to actual combat sims like DCS that this looks AWFUL in terms of pace. It feels so slow to a viewer. I also expected the head tracking to be a LOT more of a "on swivel". In actual combat, you're practically panicked looking everywhere you can to ensure no one get's in the blind spot. I mean George said he wanted Star Wars to basically mimic WW2. Even Warbird era combat is a lot more visceral than this. It's almost like the devs ignored that detail.

[@cardinalnight3883]

This is not VR?

[@thiefofa1073]

It is, but this vid is head tracking. Track is not VR they are different

[@UbaldoJimenez1]

The enemy always targeteted you and not your allies, that's what I hated the most about that game.

[@oOBlackadderOo]

Doesn't make sense. Imersive woukd be that the ships themselves provide basic information on your coordinates as well as FoF-Information. Tthat would feel "real". Funny enough the generic crosshair (no HUD) is there on "minimal HUD". And why use a whole screen in the cockpit for the thing you are targeting (left screen) while it does not provide any useful information about it vectors and position. They missed the chance to cross the line from arcade-shooter to "somewhat real" - considering you basicallly accept the whole StarWars space fight setting.

[@A._J_.]

Pick up your visual scanning.

[@evydaemon]

Why is there sound in space?

[@Fuskendov]

George Lucas and the other Star Wars filmmakers added sound to make space travel and space battles more exciting for the audience. Telling an engaging story and providing a thrilling experience was more important to them than being scientifically accurate.

[@ZA-7]

Are you serious...?

[@Fuskendov]

@@ZA-7 ​ @ZA-7 Of course I am, or at least that's what I personally know but I am confident that this is the reason

[@ZA-7]

@@Fuskendov I'm not replying to you buddy, but the one who asked...

[@Fuskendov]

@@ZA-7 Aight my bad dude calm down just trying to help.

[@dibby4482]

Pisses me off the lack of support and advertisement for this game from EA, awful company.

[@bannor216]

lol why is everything flying like nonstop forward...there is no friction...it's not like you will fall out of the sky if you slow down to a crawl or stop even. lol dog fighting crap.

[@No1sonuk]

Slowing makes you an easier target.

[@yamapikarya215]

Lol, you can stop the ship from even moving in this game, anyway this is an arcade shooter not a fucking simulator dude

[@MichelangeloDraconis]

This is a differenc gameplay. However check Elite : Dangerous for realistic simulation of physics in space

[@InspirationalBacon]

This game is so bad without 6 degrees of movement

[@connorbaz5980]

Man, this voice "acting" is so freaking bad. If I was given this game I probably wouldn't play it. Unless I could turn all the voices off.

[@M4r11on]

Boring...

[@dannyd464]

The campaign was woke garbage 🗑

[@captnwinkle]

Agreed. Didn't finish the game. Got tired of looking at those woke characters you couldn't even tell if they were make or female...and Alphabet squadron?! FFS

[@CognizantCheddar]

Must be exhausting to be so bothered by stuff which doesn't matter. Maybe try therapy.

[@dannyd464]

@@CognizantCheddar I could say the same about you....... but I'll always have your mum.....🤗

[@CognizantCheddar]

@@dannyd464 I haven't expressed any 'bother'. Toothless response, my dude. I'm sad for you. Edit: completely serious about that therapy suggestion, by the way 🙂

[@dannyd464]

@@CognizantCheddar not really a gamer are ya ? Still bothered you enough to comment......lolz 2 times...... send your mum around I feeling an itch only she can scratch.

[@RoboBreaker]

Can't enjoy anything Star Wars related anymore, knowing the creators hate people who look like me

[@marclebret5590]

???

[@DarkestKnightshade]

everyone join 5mans for friday night events! This game is still alive!

[@bingus549]

Youd enjoy Star Citizen

[@kleeklee4572]

If you really want to play this play it on vr