Star Wars: The Old Republic (SWTOR) - The Endgame | Should you play it?

[@Khan69317]

Great videos. Even if they don't get a ton of views, please keep going. I'm really enjoying them.

[@1dir951]

Good video, thank you. Only thing I might have different observations on is companions. We lost some of our main companions (likely associated with the voice actor strike around that time) and gained a ton of new companions with Fallen Empire and Star Fortress missions. IMO, BW chose to normalize companions skills by giving all companions DPS, Tank, Healer specs because players with DPS, Tank, Healer characters needed a complimentary companion for the missions and star fortresses where specific companions were required as they were integral to the story. They also dropped companion gearing because it would have been near impossible to get all companions optimally geared. There are still companions that do better with certain class/spec performance. Dual weapon companions have better DPS. Melee companions are better at standing in the enemies face, taking aggro, and staying closer to your melee character. Z0-0M is the best heals because of the hidden bonus AOE, Lokin is the best Tank because he jumps right back to the target when pushed away and holds aggro better as a result. Just my observations, thanks again... ;)

[@Sofa_Sof1030]

I've been playing free to play since it first came out and I never had any problems with it. My friends and I never really felt THAT restricted. only with movement speed but that's about it.

[@joel7342]

Same but we play prefeered

[@tituspetersson571]

I'm going to sub next week to get the expansions and as a f2p I don't feel restricted.

[@woahitstheillusion9749]

I'[m so glad I found your channel fam; saves me a lot of time trying out a million MMOs just to find out the end game is garbigio.

[@GameLogicWasTaken]

I'm really happy you like my videos! :D

[@feller1912]

Just discovered this video, because i just resubscribed to the game. And boy you deserve many more views! Very good content! I like the way you structured your video!

[@TevyaSmolka]

Well to be fair the reason why they change protagonist from being silent to he or she having there own voice actually appeared in mass effect 1 first

[@Obliticus]

After playing for 3 years now, I concur they have definitely turned this game into online single player game or multiplayer pvp game. The multiplayer pve content is years old and all of the best raiders in the game have left (and probably will never come back). In the past few years, games like WOW have added 6+ new large player raids....swtor has added zero.

[@joel7342]

No Swtor added raids!!! THEY ADDED...uhhh...the revan expansion one

[@ninvusoogoar6098]

thats because swtor isnt trying to be a good mmo or game, its a fanboy factory, it takes the die hard star wars fans who have no other star wars mmo to go to (now SWG is gone) and widdles them down with its f2p model till they give up and pay the sub fee and then get hooked on the game's story which if successfull it will turn them into a fanboy of the game who will keep paying them money for a below average MMO

[@Epictroll48]

Imperial agent story is one of the best of any rpg stories and I've played many

[@ultimatum117052]

Hookemhorns48 I love the trooper story

[@darthsidious1177]

I love both but bounty hunter will always be my fav

[@noahbuster4333]

Thank you for this video. I am definitely coming back to wrap up the stories.

[@Golden_keyboard]

Really enjoying these 'end game' videos you've been making! Gives you great insight on the post game :)

[@Mahgwa]

I just came back to the game and love the new companions. No more spending all your credits outfitting a companion or being stuck with one you don't like. Now I can hang with Vette whereas before I hardly used her because I needed Doc.

[@kentuckyjones7242]

"the End Game, where is it" fixed it for ya.

[@kareemedits3969]

Acutally, you still need to level up the influence of your companion to improve their efficiency.

[@DaleTHFC]

I left when they messed up the Companions,, One minute they are fine, then the KOTFE comes out and they are changed, they were a bit over powered, so, they reduce them,, to the point they were utterly useless. I know they boosted them up again to a better level. That was on top of finding there was more grind and so on to get anywhere.

[@ИванСеливанов-в5ы]

Well mostly true, game not worth now to be paid for But you forget one important thing - separation between old players and newcomers. Because with new ridiculously stupid rng gearing system and the fact that all group content is at least 2 years old (last ops and fps added, uprisings not count, they are pathetic), old players will have to play again a lot of things they already play a lot of times before just to get a little chance to get new gear, and without the gear - they cannot move to HM ops, which are mostly interesting for old players. On the other hand, newcomers after reaching lvl70 will play ops and fps a lot, mastering skills in them and slowly getting gear. So I would say, that in current state game is bad for old players and good for newcomers.

[@ninvusoogoar6098]

the game isnt very good as a mmo. if it was kotor 3 single player RPG it would of been an 8/10 as a mmo its a 3/10. ignore the player story and focus purely on the MMO aspect's and you will find the game is horrible and its hidden behind RP elements and a passable story.

[@TheFlametroll]

Recommendation: Buy a subscription and play the story content, you will have 1 month to experience a epic journey where you make choices that influence the galaxy....borderline Mass Effect. Just don't renew that subscription, because the MMORPG content in this game is fucking shit! Actually, everything except the story, soundtrack and some of the voice acting pure shit. Personal rating: Story 10/10 (Honestly, I would recommend the game just for that but you gotta subscribe if you wanna enjoy it all. The last 2 expansions offered an incredible story line) Free 2 play model 0/10 (The game will constantly throw it in your face that you should subscribe and limit EVERYTHING, even running) Endgame content 0/10 (Mega grind with RNG boxes, you may in fact never get your gear. Oh and no need to raid, not rewarding at all given the time it takes) PvP content 0/10 (Unbalanced and game engine is shit, 30 frames at the most when fighting groups of players) Graphics/Animations 4/10 (Although decent for the most bit, animations will often glitch or look clunky. As for visual effects, you can put everything on maximum and play your story with 20-30 frames pr sec, but whenever you want to do PvE you will have to dumb the settings down to medium at least for a smooth combat experience and as for PvP you are unfortunately forced to dumb everything down to "very low". You might ask "but isn't that just your PC that's crap?" My PC is fucking beast, I can pull more frames in DayZ or Arma 3 or Battlefield 1 on ultra than in fucking SWTOR, that's how bad their game engine is. Economy 0/10 (I know, weird, but the truth is so many buy ingame currency that SWTOR is chinese goldseller heaven and frankly, if there is something you want, you should buy gold/credits too. Because you are either a shit poor casual, free to play player or pvp'er. The only rich players are some bizarre basement dwelling nerds that never do anything else than repeat the grind and those weird fuckers only sell to each other at astronomical prices.)

[@TrevorLentz]

They've actually made free to play soloing pretty easy. I just played through the Jedi Guardian and Sith Warrior solo without subbing. You can use legacy unlocks (with 40k credits) to allow piloting at LVL 1!

[@Noamalmoggg]

recon herlev i agree.. and i play since 2012

[@hellothere9781]

recon herlev I agree with you on alot of this but fps? Maybe I just got a stupidly strong pc but I never even had to think of putting the graphics lower, even in pvp with large numbers in one area.

[@Userius1]

The game runs just fine. The graphics are still around an 8.

[@jrosa__]

credit cap restrictions are just rediculous. they make the game unbearable to play. RNG adds even more frustration since all you get is trash.

[@angelphoenix7784]

Not only that, but if you play the new expansions you wont be earning any command points. And as far as I know there is nothing to buy to get the command xp.

[@VidanoMano]

So very true. I am not going to sub anytime soon and I cannot play this game without the unrestricted credit cap. I have 13 million in escrow, which i can't use. It sucks.

[@Chris-ct1xy]

Why bitch about free 2 play it's free 2 play in WoW u get 2 lvl 20 and that's it for you!

[@jrosa__]

Chris Pankhurst wow is free to try, not free to play. very different.

[@seth2428]

i mean, technicaly this game is free to try as well, just more of it

[@yurrien8305]

SWTOR is my number 1 game i love ti for 6 years now and i still enjoy adventuring

[@MagicSpud]

The credit cap is the only one of the F2P/Preffered status restriction that I find to be ridiculously cumbersome. The rest are very manageable, especially if you buy certain unlocks while subbed that let you keep certain sub perks on even as F2P/Prefered status.

[@mjw665]

I hate how everyone leave out how barren a lot of the planets felt. I don't mean for lack of players, I mean for lack of content. The planets progressivly had less and less content. They tried to combat this by putting in more Kill X of and putting quest objectives further and further apart.

[@geraldjosephdonttrip1370]

Thanks for this video. Ive played for a bit, and got up to lv10 as a sith. Let me tell everyone who is interested, that this game is laregely underrated. Dont let the majority stop you from trying this game out, the story, soundtrack, design, voice acting is great.

[@Noamalmoggg]

hi guys im a hardcore kotor 3 fan and i got to say that chapter 6 of swtor really is the replacement we were asking for ( replacement because revan isnt part of it)

[@Mogsey1972]

As an ex player of this game I actually felt like having another go at it thanks to this vid. Good job!

[@DaleTHFC]

I don't know if I could be bothered with all that grinding to get the crates to up approval and to get better gear and so on. I hated those world Elite zones during main story, then have to do them again. Also, where are the rest of the companions ?

[@haze_mako5570]

really well explained i been playing this game for 4 years now very well scripted

[@nicholasswartz7819]

actually, i like not taking a few months to reach endgame, wow was amazing but man was it a time sync back on woltk and bc.

[@teathomas]

I disagree on the companions feeling shallow. I never played with anybody other than Kira Karsen because I was a tank, even though I loved T7 and Doc. Now I can play with whoever I want without it slowing down my combat experience.

[@KeybladeWielderXV]

I'm amazed that you're video hasn't been taken done due to including even one track from the Star Wars ost. How did you accomplish this? Also great video!

[@ThanTreeKull]

CXP and lootboxes are in fact NOT the primary way of getting the best gear in the game. Operations and PvP are, you will earn high lvl gear tokens in this activities. Also you will earn components that you can turn in along with command tokens to buy the next lvl of gear. The RNG of the lootboxes is just a complementary system to keep you engaged, and if you never participate in OPs or PvP, you will not be able to get your best gear. Also they introduced a new type of gear with the ossus update, that requires killing worldbosses, and leveling up your reputation on ossus and crafting.

[@lmillam1971]

You cannot choose "Ranked warzones." Ranked is arena only. There are no ranked 8x8 warzones. Galactic command isn't just a menu that you can queue from - it's basically the only way of endgame gearing now. (Besides crafting, which doesn't come with a set bonus.) Overall, there is very little discussion of "endgame" in this video considering the title. I think you're correct that the game doesn't know what it wants to be, though.

[@sgbsflgbsf]

i love how OP the companions are.

[@fuhi4080]

Great video! Same goes to me. In the moment I am also waiting for the next expansion, because the boxes and farming system doesn't appeal to me either. And don't beging with pvp, please! 😂

[@santiago451]

14:48 "Make Bee" explained: When a daddy bee and a mommy bee love each other veeeeery very much... Wait, did you mean MAKEB? (omg I died)

[@hadoukenocx4746]

rly nice and true youtuber he rly deserve more keep the god work up

[@GameLogicWasTaken]

Hadouken OCX Thank you! I appreciate it!

[@vladimirsimic669]

i never liked mmos but i am a huge star wars fan and this game is really worth playing for the single player content only.Tho i liked even the pvp operations and flashpoints and the community is kinda nice.One of the best games i played

[@CallmeDou]

Although i agree sometimes the answer you choose is a bit different than what you actually say its pretty rare and not that big of a deal... dont cry

[@cultofmalgus1310]

really wish they'd make a successor to Star Wars Galaxies

[@ninvusoogoar6098]

they never will. SWG isnt brain dead easy to play and you actually had to think. swtor you dont, you button mash or afk and let your companion in tank/dps mode 1v12 everything for you while you are afk. SWG was a game ahead of it's time and they tried to copy its space content in swtor with the starfighter pvp but failed to understand why space in SWG was so legendary.... because it was open world not just a pvp square (cube for space)

[@ninvusoogoar6098]

@@VirtueGOAT what ruined the game was poor leadership and lack of any real direction from the dev team and SOE at large in general... there is a reason SOE is not longer around. SWG was an amazingly flawed game that i would probably still be playing if it didnt shut down, jjedi were not that bad the game pre-cu and before was just niche trash that had you just playing unarmed master spamming terminal missions and RPing because the game had 0 content to it. it was a shit show from the start but it was my shit show!

[@rasmuserlandsson2204]

As someone who loves MMORPGS, it all comes down to FFXIV and SWTOR for me. I am a founder of SWTOR and played to 50 then quit 'cause of work, however, I do feel like most of the negatives you listed appeals to me. For someone playing casual, that sounds like a lot things to do. Also, I played A LOT of PVP in this game and it is not as bad as people say. I always found it smooth and classes did unique things. Especially how they've bad tanks viable.

[@MikkiZHskDK]

what a nice review., have you considered doing lord of the rings online?

[@exquisite8967]

What would best a gaming laptop or a home computer setup for gaming i feel like a laptop would be ideal for on the go but a home setup could be better alien? Ware ha any suggestions thanks

[@ColdieHU]

"If you are into space battles, this game got you covered." LOL No, it really doesn't.

[@BFHtrooptrapguy]

You seem quite well informed, I'll give you that. Some points seem like you just haven't bothered to play the game though, or do some research. Warzone commendations were removed with the latest expansion, is one example. Veteran flashpoints (or hard mode flashpoints) are second only to operations, when it comes to end game content. Please don't encourage below level 70's to do said flashpoints, because they will be undoable for the person and even more for the group, resulting in frustration on both sides. Uprisings (where you made me spit out my drink) are not hard at all. They're wave of adds back to back, before followed by a boss with a singular mechanic if any mechanic.

[@MannyMM]

great video bro

[@GameLogicWasTaken]

Discord link: discord.gg/dJwxzrx Oh, and if you want the annotation menu to work properly, watch in theater mode instead of full screen :P Failure in video games: kzbin.info/www/bejne/npO7gqufmJhmeZI&ab_channel=GameLogic

[@michelle2011995]

nice video like it.what to do some flashpoint to level to 70.can you give me some hilt

[@cody1o3]

Good review, shame you didn't mention the active RP community in swtor. And fair enough about not wanting to continue I'd say swtor was best when SOR was the newest expansion. OPs were still hard, gear was worth something, and the rp was still strong. Once again good review, buuuuut good lord you're bad at the game xD

[@DaBearsGG]

Really nice reviews

[@GameLogicWasTaken]

Thank you!

[@BouncerAllods]

waiting for mmos like FF14 and Black Desert in your reviews be interesting to see your take on those.

[@GameLogicWasTaken]

The games that are at the top of my list are: WoW, FF14, ESO, Albion Online (When it releases) The Secret World (Love that game), And then maybe revelations online and archeage once Rev comes out, and Archeage's queue's calm down. It might also be fun to do some kinda mini-episode show for things like the Pokemon MMO, or 8bit MMO if I can find time to squeeze them in-between Endgame episodes. So yeah, you can expect WoW, ff14, and ESO in the near future :P

[@BouncerAllods]

GameLogic sounds great cant wait

[@MrPetur4o]

You can start veteran flashpoints at level 10, not 50.

[@ninvusoogoar6098]

also your choices dont matter at all in any impactfull way. its given lip service if even that. the stories are not written well but are entertaining enough that most people dont care.

[@thesheepthemightythecrazy]

this felt like a full game review, not end game review.

[@ericfluellen8957]

I was never a fan of MMO but I really liked SWTOR, when the game first started it was all about the story, but lately that aspect has fallen at the waste sides, and that is truly unfortunate. I think that SWTOR really needs to stop with gimmicks and go back to what made SWTOR so popular the story.

[@joel7342]

They are but the probelm is they are only focusing on story and not caring about everything else. Some players like story while other likes warzones, operations, galactic starfigher, etc. They aren't doing anything to keep them entertained.

[@ericfluellen8957]

Respectfully, I don't think making the focus of SWTOR the story takes away from making warzones, or any or any other operation. The main story arc makes creating those other operations far easier because the story is the base for other operations. For instance, without the beginning story you would have never had any flash points or galactic Starfighter operations, or warzones. So, respectfully I say again the story is the most important aspect of SWTOR.

[@ninvusoogoar6098]

it does take away, the story is there to distract gamers from how shallow and empty the end game is AFTER the story is over. it gives the illusion your choices matter and encourages you to re roll several times to "experience all the choices!" but ultimately every choice you make has no real weight to the class story and is mostly paid lip service if its even mentioned at all. the expansion story's is just them being lazy and not wanting to continue with the class stories but instead shoe horn all classes into the same story which makes the enternal empire shit very stupid when playing a non force user who is some how able to go toe to toe with the most powerful force user in the galaxie and his children who are also highly powerfull. you cannot take half of it seriously. commando/smugler, agent/bounty hunter make those expansions too silly and unbelieveable. while on the other hand as a force user its basically a even worse version of dragonballz... just gotta get more powerfull because your not able to fight them bullcrap

[@LilianOrchard]

"What was wrong with this system?" It sucked. Having a silent protagonist dead-eye staring through the entire game isn't more engaging. If anything, not knowing what your character is going to do beyond a vague context is a lot more interesting because it shows that your own character can surprise you. A lot like the interrupts from ME2 onward, where you give Shepard the instruction to do something vaguely Renegade-like, and you don't know whether that will be to fry a computer, punch someone, or push a guard out the window. BioWare dropped the silent protagonist idea starting from Mass Effect and onward for a reason: Because it sucked. Having a protagonist that can actually interact with the story is far superior to having someone stare their way through the story just so a small handful of people can project onto it.

[@KitchenSinkSoup]

Lily Peet The silent protagonist allows people to project their voice through the character. Lots of people hate for example Fallout 4's dialogue system and Mass Effect/Dragon Age 2 and Inquisition.

[@farfilms4478]

Who cares about credit caps and stuff? (I do but still) It's Star Wars! It has somewhat good graphics, and a pretty good story line (In my opinion). I don't see it as a sequel, but instead more of it's own thing.

[@ninvusoogoar6098]

its a sequel that was supposed to be kotor 3 but half way through development they decided to turn it into an MMO for higher profit's (because you cannot attach a sub fee to a single player game without everyone shitting on you) ultimately its a bad "mmo" and notice i say MMO not game, it would of been a damn good kotor 3 8/10 in my books if it wasnt a mmo.... BUT!! as a MMO its a solid 3/10 worst ive seen in the last 15 years of playing MMOS... hell even wildstar does the MMO elements better than swtor and no one plays wildstar anymore

[@farfilms4478]

I never said anything about it being an MMO?...

[@KaasTVNL]

your content is awesome dude ! SUB +1

[@aboodfouda]

In my opinion, the class stories were amazing. But beyond that, the quality of the story drops dramatically. The stories of the last two expansions were utterly terrible and boring. But that's just what I personally feel.

[@MikaelLV]

Lol, dick move by the scoundrel at 12:02 . Ninjaed the koltos when you needed the big additional heal.

[@whippersnapper7632]

I don't remember Rise of the Hutt Cartel being f2p.

[@MultiMetalsnake]

Do do you play WildStar? Make make some gameplays of it XD

[@GameLogicWasTaken]

Leonardo Rodrigues my last video was on wildstar :P

[@MultiMetalsnake]

GameLogic do gameplays, like world PvP, pvp, battlegrounds, arenas, guides, i wanna play a MMORPG, and i am thinking to play WildStar

[@GameLogicWasTaken]

Leonardo Rodrigues I mean, that's what the last video was. Same thing as this, but wildstar.

[@GameLogicWasTaken]

Here you go, buddy. kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5-xi5yYh8mGibM

[@MultiMetalsnake]

GameLogic you are weird, i liked you, dont stop with your videos

[@CulltureShock]

0:53 What is the name of that chest piece, it's important

[@GameLogicWasTaken]

VeKay I can't remember, I'm sorry. Why do you need to know?

[@CulltureShock]

i've been wanting to make a "desert scout" outfit, that chest piece would do very nicely. that's why it's "important".

[@CulltureShock]

turns out, its called "outlander Effcient shirt" i can see it in the video, but its a Blink and youll miss it. and its a reward for completeing Chapter 9: The Eternal Throne, for kotET.

[@0Sweetsugar0]

Blade&Soul next pleeease!

[@pindakaasman5413]

How to play knights of the falen empire in STWOR can someone tell me please

[@johnsilver9488]

6 expanions? there are only 4, RotHC, SOR, KOTFE, and KOTET

[@GameLogicWasTaken]

Galactic Starfighter and Galactic Strongholds are considered expansions.

[@johnsilver9488]

EELUM no... ILL-UM... MAKE-B NO JUST NO IT'S MUH-KEB!

[@GameLogicWasTaken]

Soar-e.

[@exquisite8967]

Scrolling through all these comments makes me kind of happy of not playing this game and im glad i got to be part of star wars galaxies this game is an imitation of swg and this video shows all this game has to offer and im convinced not to play id rather just play knights of the old republic on my xbox ha

[@waldemarhilt3574]

Thanks very much for the video. but PLEASE! do nont show content of kotet or something like this because of spoilers and so on!

[@drackkor725]

Why have so much about early game play if this is a end game review?

[@randomtoontownexpert]

make b is a gr8 planet

[@ncupton]

Bioware>Blizzard

[@nagilumsadow]

Can you imagine if SWTOR had been designed similar to The Elder Scrolls Online? What an mmorpg SWTOR could have been.

[@Venoch_]

prelevant XD

[@LordProteus]

Knights of the Eternal Throne does not have end-game content. It barely has content. Galactic Command was the worst thing to have ever been added to the game and I think it's ruined everything. They're also hiding too much behind subscriptions now, it will scare off the customers.

[@professorwho6315]

Tried to play it (fourth attempt since launch) and got cock-blocked by their Bitraider streaming service program, which more-or-less crashed the computer multiple times and then when I went to uninstall Bitraider it wouldn't let me as it explained the game would not run without it. Checked the forums, and other players confirmed the Bitraider issue. So... Sorry Bioware... Simply not going to give your shitty game another go. When I was able to get the game working on previous attempts to get into it, I was not impressed by the dated gameplay nor the fact that the game loves to remind you after every mission what you COULD have been rewarded if you were a subscriber. Some missions were even denied to you outright because you weren't a subscriber. Now, I'll be honest, I love Star Wars more than Star Trek (but I like them both) and when Star Trek Online has a much better F2P Model and you're not constantly reminded of how terrible you are for not forking over more money, then I can't help but think... Why am I even bothering? Is my love for Lightsabers and the Force so strong I'll put up with what basically amounts to abuse from the Devs? No. Voice acting and story were good. Love the cutscene vids and music. But don't get dooped with this one. There are better games. Especially for F2P.

[@joel7342]

I love the story though which is why I am still subbed.

[@ninvusoogoar6098]

subbing to the game seems like a total waste of money, you sub for the story? why? the story isnt even that good, half the class stories are riddled with plot holes and/or written poorly with bad voice acting that makes them sound bored and are just doing this to pay off a car loan.

[@ninvusoogoar6098]

shame, star wars galaxies was a much better MMO (note i say MMO, because it does what a MMO should do. good raids/pvp/and highly social game and player driven economy. swtor has raiding and pvp but both are wanting. raiding is stale and pvp is generic warzone style that 8/10 groups will ignore the objectives and just kill shit that gives no points. while SWG had amazing stuff, downside to SWG was it was miss managed into the ground by SOE, if you dono who SOE is then good all you need to know is its a dead company now known as day breaking games (they bought them out)

[@vargothleonid]

should you play it? HELL no; EA's non-existent and frustrating customer support alone is more than reason enough to reject the game, regardless of any of its merits, which are few. Further, the way the game is managed, its total disregard and downright disrespect for players is a HUGE slap in the face of those that pay their bills. This game is the worst of the gaming industry.

[@ninvusoogoar6098]

wouldnt call it the worst of the industry (ride to hell and mind jack hold that dishonor) but it is the worst mmo in the last 15 years. they closed star wars galaxies for this hunk of shit? shamefull

[@Charok1]

Should you play this game at all? No. No you should not. Play Star Citizen 3.0

[@Sir_Coffee_first_of_his_bean]

i played this game yesterday after several years break, it still sucks

[@ninvusoogoar6098]

i love how this guy doesnt really talk about how the game actually is. its a terrible mmo. its a single player game hidden inside of a mmo just as an excuse to be able to have a subscription price that they cant do for an actual single player game. its a rather bad MMO. it should of been kotor 3

[@DanielTAKD]

The storyline isn't the problem... All the blasted restrictions are, my young Padawan

[@Crisscross918]

Criticism: This wasn't about the endgame, this was an overall review. And a very rudimentary one at that. You just told us about a 7 year old game and didn't go into any nuance or insight about it. "You do quests until level 70. You have tab targetting combat. Raids are called operations." These are things we can read off the box (or website); we don't need a reviewer to tell us that. On top of that it takes 3/4ths of the video before actually getting to the endgame; misleading title. Finally, spend your damn focus and stop spamming your basic attack when you're capped, you dirty clicker.

[@cameronmoore3651]

There's a fine line between ornate and cluttered. This game is cluttered.

[@Hey_Mack_jay]

Game became to repetitive.

[@grendel1013]

Micro transactions killed SWTOR for me. I don't mind paying the subscription, but having to deal with cartel adds, and feeling like I am missing out on gear and items because I don't want to gamble with real money on cartel packs that 95% of the time give you trash. One of my friends plays SWTOR and he has been known to drop over $100.00 a week on cartel packs, it's a complete ripoff.

[@Chris-ct1xy]

What have you actually played the game??? Cartel market is not micro transaction it's purley cosmetic it does not change your stats at all SMFH

[@darkredwing]

When all they really add is more cartel items, even if its only cosmetic items then yeah you kinda of are missing out on stuff. KOTFE and KOTET were great stories, changes to the companion system imo was a nice quality of life addition. But instead of building on the companion's individual stories, they no longer have conversations outside of the main quest line and are all pretty much the same. Regular flash points are a thing of the past, star fighter battles is largely abandoned. And they're only now, after 2 years starting to develop a new operation with the first boss due out in a couple of months. Lets not even talk about their fancy RNG gearing system they still insist is a great idea. It feels like Bioware only really cares about adding stuff to the CM, everything else they just through stuff at the walls hoping something will stick.

[@charlesford7887]

+Chris6184 Of course not, this fuckwad probably spent five minutes in game tops.

[@argh100100]

to me story and dialogue was horrible. Dont play it. Maybe if you're into mmo's and like EA games, but it has nothing to do with kotors quality.

[@ninvusoogoar6098]

its a cheap rip off of kotor 1/2 in name only because they know it would sell and would have fanboys instantly even tho its a bad mmo

[@michaelcoffey498]

I agree great story and the worst free to play model I ever saw

[@MOJOJOJO1999]

this game became trash the minute they stopped focusing on the Empire vs the Republic. Had they stuck to that, this game could have been huge. Instead we get this story telling bs of a third party. It completely sucks.

[@marcwittkowski5146]

MOJO JOJO Exactly. So many people fail to see this, when it is in fact obvious. Star Wars has always lived off of the Rep/Imp conflict in some way, shape or form. Changing it for the sake of change made the whole thing... bleak.

[@MrBas-cu7dt]

Yeah, i don't understand why the hell they went with this terrible fanfic-tier plot. My Wrath is more-or-less a wandering ronin yet they forced me to be an emperor/commander. Fucking hell Bioware and their overused "chosen one" plots.

[@lonewarrior250]

They ruined the potential for the game to be seen as an MMO the moment they made every single player the emperor. It was like the plot was written by a twelve year old Star Wars fan. I enjoyed the story up until that point, but after that I was like, "fuck this game. "

[@rafaelmocochinskifreitas9016]

It's called innovation. And now that the Eternal Empire has fallen, they are bringing the original conflict back.

[@drackkor725]

No this game is shitsville at higher levels its about Gear and doing the same old shitty ops for gear. Costumes are for sale and of course Strongholds / Houses. The expansions are fun get a 1 month subscription for them then go Free to play and don't bother playing.

[@epicxel]

nope you will get bored easily .....damn this game is old, end game is so stale. yet ea's swtor is flawed, they recycle the same crap/items in terms of gear and appearance. they still cant implement a system where players can choose a different voice or customize their voice, hence darth sion, vader like, nihulus like etc..full body scars and tattoos still are not in the game. no new ships, space is still a boring combat play on rails, no implementation of you own personal capital ship with your own personalized crew armata a side from the companions. still cant call more than one companion at a time, no mounts to be used in combat. specialization of force abilities is limited, no force drain, force stun, basicaly just a death field, lighting and basic choke options mixed in with some lightsaber attacks depending on which cookie cutter class you play, pvp is bassicaly in a closed world atomosphere unlike swg where you battle in open world contested cities mixed with players and npc battle for influence of the planet itself for your faction.

[@ninvusoogoar6098]

god star wars galaxies was amazing, i would pay 60 bucks plus a 15 buck sub if they remade that game and did updates on it. it was the better star wars mmo in every way

[@uncleanexecution]

Make-B? The fuck? It's "Mah-keb". Like really? For real? Make-B? What are you on?