StarCraft 2: THE ULTIMATE LATE GAME! (Neeb vs Scarlett)

[@jkobain]

Wait, StarCraft 2? Neeb? Scarlett?? Lowko??? HELL-LOW EFFREEEE-VON???!!! What a combo!! Instant like!!

[@quentinultramegadroiteradi7345]

Haha nicely said

[@quentinultramegadroiteradi7345]

I told u on stream lowko u always say effery one

[@moorebro2345]

This game is very surprising and very entertaining

[@SanityDrop]

and very lagging

[@kinsgaming8197]

how was this surprising? its literally the exact same game ive seen every single time ive watched a pvz where the toss went skybro the zerg builds tons of static D the toss cant do shit then eventually runs out of money and loses or gets shit on in one engage and loses.

[@jasonlynch282]

Ability to recall interceptors back would be a good quality of life using carriers.

[@ShadowHunter120]

I think teleporting back is a bit much but maybe.

[@raymonders001]

@@ShadowHunter120 I think what he means is a hot key that pulls the interceptors back into the carrier (so they don't deep around)

[@matthewclark7032]

Just hitting "Stop" causes the interceptors to return to the carrier.

[@literatemax]

That would be a flat out buff not just QoL

[@disiesgroto1881]

Matthew Clark But then the carrier stops as well. If you need the carrier to fly away from a bad fight, the interceptors just keep on spawning and suiciding themselves into enemy units following so you bleed the minerals and build time. A ‘Return interceptors and don’t send them out’ button would be handy, and not necessarily require balancing other units.

[@Firnen718]

When i saw one hour of lowko commentary, my heart fluttered

[@phunglung69420]

U R GAY

[@Jhaiisiin]

@@phunglung69420 You say that like it's a bad thing?

[@danielgalvez7953]

You know what it is that makes Lowko so much more enjoyable than other commentators? Like other commentators, he raises his voice in excitement when something cool is happening, but you can actually hear his excitement, his awe, how much he really does like what he's doing.

[@Drizzle52693]

47:35 carriers spotted, spire starts literally 0.1 seconds later

[@Drizzle52693]

Fred Wrinkle with my sundial

[@dataexpunged3914]

He was probably going for it anyway

[@MetalDavidRulez]

@@dataexpunged3914 She definitely wasn't, her build path looked more ground oriented. I genuinely think she's just that fast.

[@CountSpartula]

"Neeb vs Scarlett" You have successfully acquired my full attention.

[@jeremysawa7075]

more like, you had my attention, but now you have my interest...

[@jasonlynch282]

Both players seem equal in game play. Both make mistakes from time to time but both have the apm to move diverse armies with excellent spell use.

[@lightarmor753]

You had me at “hello”

[@terynmidzain7089]

OMG! What a series! This is the first win from the ultimate win condition I’ve seen for a looooong time! That carrier rush in game 2 tho👌

[@hawkenparker]

This is my first time. It was MUCH more exciting than I thought it would be...

[@riripebby]

Imagine if scarlett could build that gas and won..... Now that would be a twist

[@mostafab3239]

I wonder how many these long games we need before Lowko runs out of all the different adjectives he puts before "Late game"

[@flowenfan9678]

He flexin' that dutch education

[@elijahpeck3540]

Well, he did use this same title about a year ago or so

[@quentinultramegadroiteradi7345]

That’s the old terran waking up into neeb. The battlecruisers spirit still lives....

[@argentthefish2204]

Its currently 2:00 A.M here Me: planning to sleep Lowkowtv uploads Me: starts preparing my snacks for this one hour match.

[@NoHandleToSpeakOf]

so you DID pressed the bell icon, huh?

[@victorchen5663]

The lesson is still, even with high templar feedback buff, never go late game against Zerg.

[@lordpeckle6714]

I thought maxed toss beats maxed zerg?

[@Пашинамузыка]

@@lordpeckle6714, the whole idea of balance is that every possible unit composition is beatable so that no matchup is "survive until autowin".

[@lordpeckle6714]

@@Пашинамузыка yeah I'm pretty well aware of what balance is dude, a part of how balance is established is that each race would have different strengths and weaknesses. What I thought was an advantage for toss is a stronger late game. Idk what your intention was beyond being a condescending dick in response to a genuine question but if it was exactly that then good job comrade 👍

[@Necroneer]

@@lordpeckle6714 Late game Toss losses to Late game Zerg, usually only in high level, since Zerg can actually micro their late game units and get more value but Toss can't really get much out of it. You can even see Scarlet make some mistakes here but still win, other Zerg players would dismantle air toss late game.

[@Пашинамузыка]

@@lordpeckle6714 that means zerg naturally has instruments to deal with maxed toss. So that PvZ isn't "survive until autowin". It can easily be the other way around with adept rush, for example, because adepts can fall off and all-in strategies often put aggressor at disadvantage. You're mean. You're probably very unhappy. But calling names and sarcastic remarks are bad. Please, don't do that.

[@elijahpeck3540]

"the people who complain about protoss are just bad at the game." We'll remember this next time you get salty on ladder 😂😂😂😂

[@clarkwolfang9779]

Psi storm and smart cast is a bit cancerous tho

[@alejandrosmusic8685]

@@clarkwolfang9779 terran are much more "cancerous", Soo much

[@clarkwolfang9779]

@@alejandrosmusic8685 The terran race? Or the terran mains? lmao

[@alejandrosmusic8685]

@@clarkwolfang9779 both

[@raziel29a]

anyone complaining about any race is just bad at the game

[@quantinum2141]

This is the best ZvP series I have ever seen, thank you very much Lowko, late game + Carriers with blink Stalker + base race. Awesome.

[@NinjaAdorable]

About making Protoss late game more viable: Its great that they made the Mothership infestor-proof, if they can make them un-abductable as well, that will be great. Hear me out here: lore wise the thing is supposed to be half a planet in size, and a single Viper can abduct it ? Also for the cost and the lack of any other utility (other than the cloaking), getting one shot by a clump of corrupters is just BS. Also: THANK YOU for saying people who say Protoss is Easy has never played Protoss. Thank you for that.

[@clemensmartin1034]

Scarlett once commented on that on the Pylon show. She said that would break the game because the mothership has to die before you can engage/ abduct anything else as a zerg (obviously because you can easily kill all detection by target fire). I don't think the mothership is super interesting anyways so mby just replace it... Other general themes for late game by Artosis and Harstem (what I picked up from them): Spamming AoE by Zerg and Protoss spellcasters makes the game pretty boring and deathball-y, also late game shouldn't be centered around capital ships as much because that makes for less dynamic games. In general spells should be more stratetic/ interesting than do X damage at Y. I personally (as a master scrub) would enjoy a buff to Zerg Tier 3 whilst nerfing AoE spells and giving compensation buffs to protoss and terran as needed.

[@NinjaAdorable]

@@clemensmartin1034 then bring back Archon toilet !! Make the Mothership more viable. Or as you said, remove it entirely and make other aspects of Protoss unit composition more viable, like give the High Templars a better regular attack, so that they are not as helpless in one on one. Skytoss in general are slow and with low maneuverability, BCs are slow but because of the jumping ability they become maneuverable. Other than that the other Terran air units are mostly fast and with their own unique abilities. Do something similar to Skytoss, Tempests are debilitatingly slow and Void Rays can't chase down anything, I am okay with the capital ships ( Carriers and Mothership) being slow as they are, but the other Skytoss units need to be made faster or be given abilities that make them more maneuverable.

[@wmcarter6096]

@@clemensmartin1034 If it's not unabductable, then just straight buff it's shield or health.

[@wmcarter6096]

@@clemensmartin1034 Killing detection isn't that easy when there are forests of spore crawlers.

[@Sanguinarius9999]

Make mothership unabductable and increase upgraded overseer detect range slightly ?

[@hirzo6287]

This is my favourite Matchup and these Players are absolute awesome, thank you lowko!

[@rahulmandre3895]

Game 1 Lowko: it would be nice if there was more micro than just A-move protoss army Game 2 Neeb makes stalker for micro Lowko: *suprised Pikachu face*

[@jamesneiswender644]

Rahul you definitely missed the time dependence part of Lowkos statement...

[@AgentBuffy]

51:24 absolutely stunning use of force fields!! Was cheering a bit for Neeb after that move.

[@demoliter]

Yeah, reminded me of Parting drawing a J with force fields to win against Dark last GSL

[@chrisbray3084]

I feel like you under estimated her intentions on that second to last battle with the carriers. By letting several carriers live with low health, they were using part of the minerals that should have been available to the healthier carriers for interceptors. Second time she went in she targeted all of the carriers she had softened up and killed a lot of the army dps for a small amount of work.

[@dadski4364]

@Eerimen Bzej I don't think so, if it's the same scarlett from 2013 with her legendary banelings vs bomber

[@donkeysunited]

Agreed. It's a tactic I've seen a few times. Severely damaged units are using up Supply (denying the player from building fresh replacements) and are a massive handicap as they are next to useless in any future engagements. It's a brilliant tactic.

[@JaneDoe-jo8bc]

@Eerimen Bzej why would you care tho. like, do you need to be told that you are worthy of love and appreciation even if you let go of your bigotry?

[@JaneDoe-jo8bc]

@Eerimen Bzej Okay so your defence is that bigotry is ok because it matches your opinion*. That's great. *misguided and strawman-fuelled

[@JaneDoe-jo8bc]

@Eerimen Bzej So you think it should be illegal to not have children then, beside your obsession with using slurs?

[@yamilabugattas3895]

What an intense series! That second game was excellent by Neeb, totally unexpected. Awesome games!

[@estebancantero4751]

LoL! That commentary on 53:51.. It made my day!! I'm a Scarlett fan but Neeb played that pretty well.. Great content btw!

[@vargad3919]

I like it that Lowko differentiates between "my favourites" and "channel favourites". Whenevery Scarlett is casted, he refers to her as a "channel favourite" ;) Thanks for casting top level players other than your own favourites!

[@oDrashiao]

Amazing games with very uncommon BOs :) I'm always amazed at how much Lowko knows about the game. It really helps appreciating what's happening.

[@Technoanima]

It’s amazing to see how the Golden Armada has evolved since the last 8 months to effectively counter mass corrupter/infestor/viper.

[@brettstout-rojas5833]

That build by Neeb in game 2 was so sick, and this is coming from a Zerg main. Those forcefields. So good.

[@peppersaltman1805]

I have not played 1 minute of this game but I know so much about it. Thank you Lowko

[@Fuffcat]

the "hide buildings" tactic can never work because the moment you leave the area and reference that spot on the map, the unit vision is lost and you'll still see the building on the map from outside the fog of war.

[@swordwaker7749]

32:00 what do you think about nerfing vipers so that massive units are only pulled halfway through?

[@arthurchateau7475]

Random idea about SkyToss ball: Why not create an ability on the carrier that allows them to swap between 2 modes? The first one being the run on the mill carrier we all know The second one would be a "Turtle up" in wich the carrier would loose all offensive capacity but gain a heck lot of armor, by the means of using it's so called "Interceptors" defensivly, like an extra shield matrix It would increase it's survivability to the yank, to say the least

[@JCanim77]

I mean, yeah it would increase their survivability. But what would they be doing exactly? Sitting in the air and do nothing while the rest of their army gets obliterated? lol

[@seamusallen3839]

You've definitely got it on the nose that the micro potential of the two unit compositions needs to be brought more in line. This should be tackled from both the zerg and protoss ends. This would be my suggestion: For Zerg, I think it would be helpful to replace the Infestor with a new unit. This would be a ground unit with a powerful but slow-firing attack, decent range, and a very small AoE. Once upgraded at the infestation pit, this attack would behave a lot like fungal growth, slowing units it hits by 25%. This produces an interesting duality for Zerg when fighting skytoss - do I invest in this new unit to kill the interceptors, or corruptors to kill the carriers? My one concern here is that it might make zerg less swarm-ey, but late game was already like that for them anyway so it is what it is. From the protoss end, I really, really like the Arbiter suggestion - another spellcaster would go a long way, plus recall from multiple places would allow for some really fun plays and would help counter Zerg's mobility advantage. Still not much to do in a fight tho, so I think you'd have to give the new Arbiter one more ability, unlocked through research at the fleet beacon this time. Obviously stasis is too good, but I don't really like time warp either - it plays out almost exactly like psi storm. I was thinking something you could cast on your own units to save them from death, basically a stasis on your own unit. For the 2-3 second duration, the unit you cast it on can't move and can't attack but is untargetable and regenerates a small portion of its shields (15% or so). This would synergize well with recall and really be the bread and butter of adding the arbiter to the game, because now there is so much reactive counter-micro potential, and unlike storm, you can't cast it willy-nilly: you'll take your own units out of the fight. Finally, the arbiter from sc1 cloaked nearby units. This arbiter already seems pretty powerful, so lets maybe avoid adding that. What we could do, however, is make it a spell that cloaks all nearby units for 4 seconds and gives them and the arbiter a small speed boost (10%ish). Units would have to stay within range and killing the arbiter would end the effect early, just like with the mothership. Situational, but still useful. Thoughts? Suggestions? I'd love to hear your feedback!

[@thomasdooley5904]

Your commentary is the best. You should definitely consider becoming a mainstream commentator for a sport or something like that.

[@FairyRat]

What an insane series! One of the most entertaining recently :)

[@pooyataleb2514]

That second game was the embodiment of "you can't beat me if I play a different game!"

[@dallasorr401]

Lowko, carrier tweeks. Hold interceptors to fire 3 range air or ground barrage DPS = to # of interseptors DPS. Fleet Beacon research ability same cost and research time as storm. Or a kamikaze fighter option ground or air target damage = sheild+remain hit points. Basically trade damage for minerals and time.

[@kylewatkins9810]

So glad I stayed up late now!! Greetings from Australia! :D

[@spanwich]

I think something like "deploy interceptor", a skill that interceptor deploy to an area and existed even after the carrier is destroyed. It would still guard that area for some time which I think this would not broke the overall damage output and you need to deploy it wisely or else you are left with empty carrier until cooldown timer are reached. Losing full loaded carrier is such a pain. I would like to hear any idea if this would work, or not?

[@lelouchvibritannia7809]

Carriers used to have this ability. They could deploy interceptors anywhere on the map wherever on the map (like Battlecruiser tactical jump) but that was removed very early in Legacy of the Void

[@matthewknight388]

I feel there would still be a lack of ability to micro that very much as it seems it would be a little like a slightly weaker swarm host at that point since you still can't micro the interceptors. There would also need to be a limit on the range from which it can be done because if it can just go anywhere it might lead to pure turtling on the protoss end

[@theeraphatsunthornwit6266]

@@lelouchvibritannia7809 no, not anywhere on the map. But surrounding area. My favorite ability.

[@dallasorr401]

2 options as research ability can have one, not both. Mag-lock:- holds all interseptors to fire air/ground barrage range 3 DPS = interseptors x# Terminal Launch:- kamikaze all interseptors at target DPS = shield + HP.

[@dallasorr401]

Zerg:- microbial Shroud if cast on brood lords and not burrowed all hatchlings mutate into scourge damage = life HP + splash (DPS to be determined). Shroud still has normal affects on all other units.

[@LukeAps]

Yeah. It's 1am. I enjoy watching Starcraft 2 with Scarlett far too much. She's incredibly experienced.

[@smithers4420]

15:44 I love that little laugh you did. Like a child watching someone who is about to fall over 😂😂

[@chingompiew1]

"I think about late game Zerg vs Protoss" lmao. Lowko living the good life!

[@PhysicsGamer]

That first game is exactly why Scarlett is my favorite Zerg player. Countering skytoss with nydus-swarmhost? Inspired!

[@patricksullivan4080]

You lowko are person that keeps me competive into playing sc2

[@greyfox999]

That was a really close match. I love base races.

[@dallasorr401]

Zerg tweek:- microbial Shroud if cast on brood lords (if not burrowed) all hatchlings mutate into scourge damage = hit points + splash, range = 7 no targeting (targets like widow mines). Still has normal affects on other units.

[@jakesecreto]

That second game was so beautiful to see... Oh my God, Neeeeeeb, who would expect that from you? Holly...

[@harryschlotter3403]

28:42 "This is the moment where NEEB wants to once again go DEEP upon the CREEP" Well executed line, MC Lowko.

[@djordjeilic5355]

I think we prottoss need dark archons. Mind control and confusion could be very good micro potential. Reminder,dark archons are made from 2 dark templar which are expensive,plus they don't deal much damage,they deal around 20 and don't have bonus to anything. It would be balanced I think

[@Michael-bc3es]

Maelstrom would be really powerful against zerg and terran bio but I agree

[@Owlr4ider]

Honestly Protoss has the tools to contest Zerg in the late game. Carrier+Disruptor is a very potent combo. Tempests are also amazing with some ground forces and especially High Templars for both storms but also feedback against Vipers+Infestors.

[@pas9027]

I’m more of a noob but I was wondering WHY did Neeb engaged that last battle on the one and only spot full of Spore Crawlers? It was not possible to go around or move the place of battle in order to have a better outcome?

[@profetatube]

Probably one of the most interesting PvZ matches

[@yoggyajiwibowo8538]

you are so good at bringing the battle on this game to your viewer 👍🏽

[@dayeet267]

Lowko and Lunch, wow this is an amazing day!

[@creepz6872]

Lowko and sleep for me :D. The power of timezones

[@SarusMindfury]

29:50 Just as the fight starts, i will assume Neeb goes to watch the fight cause he DROPS APM during the fight... nothing to do while the shipity ships shoot it seems

[@jmac2065]

Lowko spits hard facts and at the same time is polite as f.

[@nandomercy1]

this game was just amazing, it looked like part of the campaing

[@tylerm.9408]

Great series and wonderful and entertaining casting as always! I don't think I can comment on any balance since I fall apart on my builds after like the 20th SCV when I play XD

[@kyouma0519]

dude the first game was insane and I was like ok no way it gets better from here... then game 2 happened. ok nvm wrote this before watching game 3. love messy base races like that so much fun. This series was actually insane.

[@knicklichtjedi]

Just watched TennoCon - Now its time to relax to the 1h cast of these Bo3! ♥

[@bearc9491]

7 minutes from publication and lowko already gave the hearts? damn. quicboi.

[@Sensenwerk]

"[...] this is the moment where Neeb wants to once again go deep onto the creep." - Holy shit that was poetic! 28:42

[@herbslobodov]

Amazing game and I totally agree that Carriers need more micro value added and a move lost like Lowko said. How much more sense would it make if by default carriers attacked with only 70% of total intercepter numbers so in desperate situations more could be deployed or with a special move all come out in first engagement and with briefly buffed attack speeds. If it got op the carrier health could be slightly reduced.

[@firebal6129]

A pvz where the protoss didn't get absolutely murdered?!? I'm down! That game two was HYPE

[@ScarlettSpitfyre]

Hey Lowko there is a final between Clem and MaxPax, can you cast it please??? It is super good.

[@loiuhuiygny7guyguiygk]

love the commentary! Keep up the good work :)

[@TrueReptainlove]

"Ive been talking for one hour, the only ppl watching are hard commited to the series" Me: only plays campaign and coop... is too scared to go into rankeds.... and doesnt watch any championships XD

[@tindroyes]

I found my soulmate xD I'm exactly the same Proudly got all the achievements for all the campaigns (currently working on all of the coop's) :D

[@VanCleef88]

@@tindroyes Me too :D

[@yuriguimaraes410]

Man, i dont even play the game XD

[@tylerm.9408]

It's a game, enjoy it how you want to! I play campaign a ton, I play against my brother a little here and there, I've played unranked a tiny bit. Sometimes I just go in and mess around against bots for fun. It's fun in all the ways! Good for you man!

[@zhoumadeit]

We have been blessed by an hour of Lowko! All hail emperor Lowko!

[@AlexPike1337]

Here are a few ideas for Carrier mico. 1: Give the Carriers the ability to send their interceptors to basically pull an Enders Game by acting as meat shields for namely anything that got abducted or wanted to get at something in the 'Heart Of The Swarm' and live to tell the tale. 2: Alternatively you could make the interceptors attach to something to make it go faster (Picture a carbon animation with interceptors pushing a Carrier along together.) 3: Give the Carrier the ability to 'Evacuate' which while destroying the Carrier would allow the remaining interceptors to find a new Carrier.

[@dafyddgiddins9861]

How about this for carriers, make them more like liberators. Offer a siege mode where you can set and attack area for interceptors a huge distance from the carrier's, but the carrier is locked in place and has to do some kind of transformation. You could also have a stand ground mode a little like with the observers/overseers, where they have more range in all directions. You could also disable interceptor launch when carrier is moving

[@patrickdavis8271]

Great Game Lowko! Love watching scarlet play.

[@bdizzle7072]

Interceptor cannon: carrier sacrifices an interceptor by launching it kamikazi style at a single target. Costs an interceptor for a burst of single target damage. Makes it possible to snipe vipers/corruptors and other high value targets but comes at the cost of small wind up and the mineral cost of an interceptor. Potentially the interceptor could even do a small amount of splash damage, reaver style. This would also alow early carrier harrass, similar to Yamato Cannon Battlecruiser openers. So it would be more agressive, more mico-heavy, but comes with a monetary and dps cost to the carriers themselves. Maybe ever require the ability to be reasearched prior to use to limit the power behind a little time and money

[@x10mark24]

maybe they reduce the abduct pull distance on the mothership. you could still abduct it but it would only get pulled half as far as a normal unit. just a thought

[@Battlemech3246]

What would all of you think of preventing the vipers from abducting heroic units? Would that make the mothership too powerful? Or would it be enough to make it viable again, since right now it is kind of useless in ZvP?

[@BaufenBeast]

What if carriers had blink?

[@JaneDoe-jo8bc]

I just want to say, that I appreciate the correct plural form of nexus.

[@matthewkay1327]

The issue seems to be free units. Put a cost on the swarm host swarm bettles that get killed by the player that fly. Put a 1 supply cost on 'static' defence.

[@davidholland4713]

Great series. Looks like Lowko forgot to mention that it's very easy to lose instantly as zerg also if you forget to build an extractor :-D And about the PvZ lategame: I think you have to make a new Protoss unit which is very microable, and then nerf or remove one of the existing Protoss units. In other words, a massive change, not a tiny balance patch.

[@lDominicl]

Microbial shroud is great in 2v2s :D

[@mrsomedud747]

Its always nice to see lowkos vids

[@sar_ptolemy]

hey lowko, have you looked into any of the custom campaigns available now in arcade? id recommend Odyssey by CooperHawkes, but im not finished with it yet. seem rather well done, written story is an interesting take on the scii universe

[@UwePetra]

They should add a carrier bomber that needs good micro and does good damge on a not to big area

[@goldensea03idk51]

God this game made me love neeb, the second game just YES. Different things are the best!!

[@AgelVytautas]

Lowko Don't know if you seen it but you got to see the match between Serral and Inovation on day 3 of war chest team league, just an amazing match

[@michaelpereyra3415]

I'm really committed to this series

[@BarefootWalker]

carriers opening is GENIUS !!!

[@dafuzzylobsterweasel]

for carrier micro, would like a "weapon-outfit" work? ie: one weapon kit is supremely good at antiground, another anti air, and another as like a "jack of all trades"?

[@dafuzzylobsterweasel]

@Kyler Dowling maybe different interceptor models? Or different payloads given? ie Fenix champion carrier in coop. And maybe the special loadoutz only last a small amount of time?

[@baze703]

I don’t know how the hell I found your channel but you crack me up! The Starcraft is cool too ha

[@nar2130]

The most successful PvZ lategames I've seen recently get less carriers and more immortal backstabs in the comp. Can't recall who (I think SoS?) instead of robo added in some fenix to specifically target down Vipers and Overseers, actually making the mothership useful again!

[@Regunes]

18:00. Viper and infestor : Am I a joke to you?

[@Frightning]

Seems like Skytoss has the same problem that Terran mech does against Zerg late game: You can beat them in a straight up fight, but you're much slower than them, and therefore they can abuse the late game split map and pressure you on the flanks and you just *can't* be in two places at once to deal with it all. This gives the Zerg better control over the map and generally allows you to do things like steal a base, or at least prevent any type of committed push by your opponent. I suspect another piece of this is the Zerglings have some of the best speed and DPS per cost of any unit in the game, so a relatively inexpensive (both in minerals and supply) force of lings make a more effective raiding force because they can get in, kill stuff, and get out faster than other races equivalent type of units (things like Reapers, Hellions, Zealots, etc.)

[@TheRyepoog]

yoooooo the force fields.. TWICE amazing.

[@ehk5948]

So would it be viable to send two probes to block both the natural and the third on maps where there's only one viable third?

[@yujingong7953]

Nice win by Neeb in the end.

[@leenverkade]

I think mobile "static"defense for zerg is also a thing. Having 20 spore crawlers helping out in every engagement that dont cost supply helps quite a bit.

[@Manasquid.67]

Leen Verkade can’t save the zerg if its off creep

[@harleysunset429]

Lowko Sky forces are op okay that's all a unit composition of air greatness

[@yrm1594]

I think a button to return the interceptors to the carriers would really help. And somehow allow them to launch all the interceptors simultaneously. Or, on the other hand, increase the range from the carrier interceptors can attack in. It actually makes zero sense carriers are so close to the actual combat. Edit: I just had an idea. What if carriers could form shield walls with interceptors? Wouldn't that add good micro potential?

[@seancomfort8611]

Nerf interceptors damage by 2 points, give carriers a spell that changes type of interceptors that do 3 extra damage to specific types (light, armored, bio, mechanical, massive, building, etc), give them a spell that changes interceptor abilities (extra damage, slight slow, extra range). Significant nerf to carriers that aren't micro'd, slight buff to micro'd carriers. No more A-move carriers

[@TwinAero]

That really looked like Scarlet throwing the first game, its been awhile since I saw any pros built tempest during skytoss fights since a revelation cost an entire oracle since it has to go in abduct range, but Neeb got so many free tempest pelts off from that. What about a fleet beacon upgrade that lets carriers blink if they currently have interceptors building? Let Carriers attack while moving? Let Carriers dock on the ground like vikings while interceptors are out? Let Carriers carry units like the prism to protect their splash damage?

[@quentinultramegadroiteradi7345]

Lowko u’re the guy that helps protoss macro players to still live without getting too much bullied about this race....I mean once u wanna pure macro it’s so hard sometimes to hold all the stupid stuff u can eat in the ladder....

[@noemabeardsworth4761]

I'm so sure Scarlett would have won had she made the extractor... Smh

[@JaneDoe-jo8bc]

I know, I was like "nooo there's no way" when Neeb had his army in her base, and then the mutalisks kept whittling down the buildings and I started hoping.. But alas.

[@thegoodthebadandtheugly579]

“Trading free units for energy” - isn’t that the second law of thermodynamics? 🤔😂

[@n00bnot]

"LowKo" sounds like an energy drink

[@joshuafischer684]

4 Loko is/was a combo of energy drink and alcohol.