StarCraft 2: The ZERG's Command Center! (Viewer Game)

A viewer submitted game of StarCraft 2 where the Zerg manages to win the game two minutes in, but for some reason doesn't go in for the kill. He decides to sit around and toy with his opponents units untill he can make his own Terran army using the Infestor and Neural Parasite.
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[@yawgmoth6568]

This was so wholesome. Red got rushed and wasn't even mad about it, he just kept playing and doing his thing, even laughed with amusement when Blue stole his worker and built a command center. Then after somehow losing a game he never should have lost, Blue congratulates his opponent with a gg.

[@stofsk]

The sportsmanship on display here is nothing short of wondrous.

[@imnotyourfriendbuddy1883]

@@stofsk gamesmanship not sportsmanship.

[@Golinth]

@@imnotyourfriendbuddy1883 esportsmanship

[@Montag87]

Yeah, I don't think this map had any Salt Mines.

[@megustAslagt]

The questions: - the supply is max 200, no matter which race the units. - only zerg structures can be placed on creep. Doesn't matter who owns the structures. - Nukes are stored in the ghost academy. This means that if you lose an academy that if you have 2 academies and one of the made a nuke. If the one that made the nuke gets destroyed, the nuke does too. - all mining units (SCV, probe, drone) can mine gas as long as there's a structure on top of it. Race of the structure doesn't matter, it just needs to be yours. Same goes for returning resources: any base as long as it's yours.

[@senyapsilent6694]

I don't know about StarCraft 2 but StarCraft , the supply for each race is divided by the their own kind.. because I tend to do this in sc1 I mind control the drone and scv and later make all 3 race together

[@great_hedgehog8199]

@@senyapsilent6694 yeah, but in SC2 it got changed

[@sefatsilverlake3816]

Fun fact: the shape of the gas depends on the structure, you can see drones taking cubes if it is an assimilator

[@lightzebra]

I really appreciate how Blizzard *could* have disabled workers' ability to build cross-race bases using Neural Parasite. But no, it's possible, just an absolute impractical pain in the ass to pull off. 👏‍

[@bb-im6hf]

after having the option of building 600 supply army with Dark Archons and workers from each race in SC1, removing such feature would probably make many people sad

[@tjclarke4604]

@@bb-im6hf Totally. i remember using dark archons to kidnap a SCV and eventually build up a Terran army of cloaked battlecruisers. My friend I was playing against almost crapped his pants, lol.

[@the_rabidsquirel]

While I never played StarCraft growing up, I loved in Warcraft 3: Frozen Throne using the dark ranger's ultimate, charm. In large, easy AI matches I'd take enemy workers from each race and go full Sim City with every race at once.

[@BaufenBeast]

It's a lot more practical against Protoss since you only need the probe for a few seconds.

[@hallymiao2825]

@@bb-im6hf too bad sc2 make you share supply between all the races, so you are still capped at 200

[@blerst7066]

It's so wholesome to see two people actually enjoying Starcraft.

[@TheIhtiander]

That was very painful to watch, but also very funny as well.

[@noneayourbusiness5149]

Gotta love when the first Siege Tanks of the game were made by the Zerg player XD

[@SpellCaster1830]

Yesterday: Oh, a Lowko video called “The Zerg Mothership” seems fun! I’ll watch it! Today: “The Zerg Command Center”!?!?! The timing is so perfect it is uncanny…

[@FireallyXTheories]

Next we'll see neural parasite used on enemy drones to spine crawler rush the zerg's own main

[@dis_iz_tud]

@@FireallyXTheories omfg yes!

[@jesusaguayo2637]

this is the most beautiful game i ever see... it's heartwarming the way they PLAY for fun... absolutely beautiful

[@Urono]

I think it's 8 neurals to build a cc. Neural lasts 10 seconds and cc build time is 71 seconds (+ distance/human delay on commanding) PS you can't land on creep and share supply Also, drones can mine from refineries and vice versa

[@DogmaticAtheist]

Do you lose the nuke if the armory is destroyed?

[@Urono]

@@DogmaticAtheist afaik if u lose the ghost academy u lose the nuke too. If the ghost started nuking something (aka red dot appeared) and lose the nuke silo after itll still go off. However, don't quote me on that because I didn't test it recently :D

[@DanStaal]

My favorite detail: drones mining from refineries carry drums of gas. SCVs mining from extractors carry the balls.

[@wojurera3131]

@@DanStaal But what about Probes in all this?! We can't forget them!😆

[@nicholasfactor]

@@DogmaticAtheist nope

[@somniworld8104]

It's like that meme with walking straight and taking a rake to the face, versus doing super cool acrobatics with that rake and then taking it to the face at the very end.

[@dharaypm]

I just checked it out, ur terran structures wont be allowed to land / build on ur own creep but refineries/extracters allow any type of worker, also ur hatchery/cc will accept resources from any type of worker

[@smilin_kai]

37:57 you can see an scv returning mineral to a hatchery!

[@phsycresconquest6636]

I like to think the Marines were screaming “FOR AIUR!” While making the comeback. As far as I’m aware we are now 1:1 in games where there has been a hybrid player

[@Ariescz]

This feels like some kind of crazy achievement hunt - build full Terran arsenal as Zerg

[@nicholasthepeck]

Did you know, if you neural a drone, then start a building, then cancel it, you get the drone!

[@southpawdevelopment]

I mean fair, but that means your already playing as Zerg, you could just build a drone.

[@Jbn0s0rus]

I didn't. But your Berzerker profile picture gives me the right type of nostalgia. You want axe?

[@Rockpet]

Ah yes the new way to take out the enemies full drone line.

[@vargad3919]

But instead of building a hatchery you could build a spinecrawler and cancel it, wouldn¨t that work as well?

[@aetbhieiils]

@@southpawdevelopment It's about sending the message

[@TITAN_101]

If I'm remembering right in SC1: Brood War if you took both races builders as Protoss with a Dark Archon, you get 3 full supply cap limits

[@lhouwie08]

Yeah..my fave ability then is mindcontrol

[@phoenixkarma204]

To my knowledge, Starcraft had 2 missions where you used two different races. The first was when you were directly attacking the Overmind in the last Protoss mission of the original campaign, and the second was when you needed to get one of the two crystals needed to activate the xel'naga temple

[@willydaplumber5154]

Probably one of the best if not the best viewer submitted games I have ever seen! Awesome! Love your stuff lowko! Keep it up

[@themistercoolest]

i cant wait for the final installment, "the ZERG hatchery"

[@loreguru3083]

Back in Starcraft Broodwar you had separate supply for each race (so a protoss Dark Archon could mind control a terran or zerg worker and potentially get up to 400 supply), but in SC2 you share supply. In both games, you can use workers of any race to mine from gas structures/ to return minerals to a CC/Nexus/Hatchery, as long as they are owned by the same player, and only zerg racial structures can be built on creep (in Broodwar, only the infested command center could be landed on creep).

[@stalwart56k]

Any worker under the same player can mine any refinery type and return to the same player controlled hatchery/nexus/commander center. "I don't see race, I only see team color."

[@Rikard_Nilsson]

34:04 If you build the refinery first nothing is stopping any worker unit from bringing gas back to the hatchery. But if you have creep on the geyser it will block you from building a refinery there.

[@GarretRempel]

Haven’t seen anyone mention this - “WhoIsV” could easily be a reference to V for Vendetta. V is the main… antagonist? who hides their identity behind the Anonymous Guy Fawkes mask.

[@badass6300]

In Warcraft 3 the undead have the banshee and it can control a worker and build the builds of other races, but you don't get another food/supply bar, the other race units add to your current supply.

[@Naratikk]

dont forget the neutral hero dark ranger with her charm ultimate. so technically every race can do this in wc3.

[@mikeplaysgamez7095]

i am a simple man. i see viewer submitted games, i click, i like.

[@playlessNamer]

Can you kidnap a probe? You take a dropperlord with a infestor, drop infestor, take probe, load it into dropperlord, bring it home. Kidnapped worker. Build nexus at home. This isnt even very unrealistic to do this maneuver. Sounds pretty easy doable.

[@oofmasta9395]

16:18 "Assimilation successful" Lowko: "The audacity..."

[@simonl1135]

btw just to clear this up, if in a case like this Zerg parasites a worker of a different race, builds that race's base, then builds more workers and builds Refineries and/or Assimilators, all your workers (drones, probes, SCVs) can both gather gas at any of your extractors/assimilators/refineries as well as return resources to any of your bases (Nexus, CC, Hatchery), in fact they will in all respects behave like your own workers (which they are). You can even end up with a combo of all 3 races. The supply cap obviously stays at 200, since this is all your army now. The good thing is that SCVs can repair all your mechanical Protoss units and Medivacs can heal all bio units, including all Zergs, but overall this isn't particularly efficient and, most of all, if you are in the situation that you actually can pull that off, it should already be a gg anyway.

[@welshy3289]

And this is why we love viewer games.. absolute banger :D

[@weepingscorpion8739]

Oh, I love this. It's like how in Broodwar you can build a Dark Archon and mind control an SCV or drone to create a combined Protoss-Terran or Protoss-Zerg army. Don't think I've ever seen that though. But this was cool for sure. EDIT: No, you don't get 200 supply per race in SC2 but you do in SC1. So in other words, in SC2 the races share the 200 supply while in SC1 the races have 200 supply each. In fact, there is a multiplayer option in SC1 where you start with a worker from all races allowing you to create an up to 600 supply army. Sadly, this option doesn't exist in SC2.

[@ArthasPL]

Ah, "JustMonika" Flashbacks

[@eddiekalista3222]

"Zerg has another command center" is the best sentence I've ever heard.

[@dawneagle7807]

Snatching Defeat from the jaws of Victory, incredibly painful to watch as always.

[@william_sun]

18:25 In Brood War, you get 200 supply for each race you control, so it's possible to have 600 supply if you have control over all three races. In StarCraft II, you only get 200 supply regardless of the number of races you control.

[@Komatik_]

Mind control is also permanent which makes these shenanigans way easier to pull off.

[@AkoSimeowmeow]

Insert darkest dungeon quote. 😂 glad these guys had fun though

[@xmante3937]

I really do enjoy these viewers submitted games, I had a blast this morning with coffee and breakfast :D

[@euroschlucker]

These are exactly the type of viewer games I love to see :D Great video

[@Jabawalk]

Lowko: I need a beer and it’s only 11am Me looking at clock which is also 11am: yeah let’s have a beer

[@CRF1994]

that marine split LMAO

[@The_Evel_Yne]

So in SC and SC:BW you could mind control and build a hatchery and/or command center to build the other races with their own supply total. In WC3 the missions that gave you multiple races gave you control of an extra player. SC2 shares population.

[@darthlightous3092]

I think the read terran player has the ravens at minute 42 in game because he was afraid of lurkers

[@Rikard_Nilsson]

This reminds me of a game i had in starcraft broodwar where I got creamed but had a ton of cash left, flew away and built supply depots and engineering bays all over the map flying around and my opponent got so pissed that he couldn't find all my buildings that he ragequit. Think I ended with one Engineering bay and no units. Big game hunters, top right corner was unobservable by ground units, it was also my original base so the last place anyone would look. 11:39 Did that strat in team games in SCBW when I played Protoss, dark archon mind control a buddys SCV and Drone, build everything...took forever though. In Starcraft Broodwar each race had their own separate supply pool, unlike in SC2 where it's shared.

[@BBlint]

You killed me at 26:09! Perfect impersonation.

[@OMIMreacts]

the scv at 37:56 mining with his drone friends while there is a terran army destroying all zerg buildings

[@chrisdaignault9845]

I half expected that lone corruptor to go caustic spray down a building all by itself. I’m also surprised we didn’t see like mass hydra/medivac. That seems like it might actually be good.

[@MasterMMM703]

Omg, i love this and im so fascinated by the hybrid zergs with infestor plays , like maybe everyone will say that is not even viable in a rank game or stuff but its so amazing that its possible in the game to play zerg while also getting the tech of the other 2 enemy races for permanent time in you're favor lol The video with zerg mothership viewer submited game was my fav and wached it 8 times

[@TinCanToNA]

In the original, Supply was only for Terrans. Protoss had psi and Zerg had control. All the same concept, all limited to 200, but mind control could allow you to get a 600/600 army.

[@danielcebriancalvo1045]

About the mission you mention at 18:50, maybe you're talking about original SC1's final mission against The Overmind. You play with protoss and terran simultaneously. Damn, now I wanna play it.

[@lailatulmatlazim6820]

9.25 didn't your mom told ur to not play with ur food Me the one watching : adds pop out hungry? Eat snicker!

[@Evox232]

I thoroughly enjoyed that game and your commentary. Used to seeing aggressive fast paced games. This was funny and chill.

[@sumonick2005]

Starcraft 1 with dark templar, you could build multiple races of armies by taking a worker and it would get it's own supply amount.

[@hungnguyenthinh4820]

These viewer games are so entertaining to watch pls do this more Lowko :>

[@josephpaulson9495]

It would be so damn funny if in a Z v P pro game that the Zerg neurals a probe and makes their own nexus, then goes on to build a giant Zerg + Protoss army. There is honestly unlimited potential with an army like that too, considering troops are balanced to counter eachother means that having comps of two races could probably break the game.

[@KK-sg5gl]

I feel like these kinds of games, the players stage everything.

[@deltaavatar6249]

This was an awesome game. It reminded me of Florencio's games

[@velocirapper]

Re: can drones return gas from a refinery to a CC etc, yes! I've tested this in ZvP against the AI

[@MauricioRPP1]

@2:43 made me laugh so hard, yet lowko got to the end and it was great all the time!

[@PavlosPapageorgiou]

33:55 I believe yes, enter the refinery at least

[@loudogg0028]

I've never been more furious watching a game of sc2.

[@davidavila608]

Reminds me of justmonika

[@SpellCaster1830]

Watched that match literally yesterday! It was very fun

[@ronelsass6934]

Loved the game I'm 66 years old and been playing Starcraft I since the game first came out. Just play for fun LOL

[@sakarasomapa]

Yes. Drones can mine from refinery and can return cargo to command center. They also get a vespene canister from refinery instead of vespene lump they get from extractor or vespene block if they mine from assimilator. The vespene block looks cool with mecha Zerg skin. If scv or probe mine from extractor they also get vespene lump.

[@Sc4rlite]

The Purity of Essence, the Purity of Form and the Purity of Cheese.

[@MakeSenseUSA]

The most painful Game you've ever casted... I cried as I Watched... LOL

[@ThePeteriarchy]

In Brood War, you can indeed have a 600 supply army if you can mind control a drone and an SCV in, say a 2v2 or a 3-player free-for-all. Definitely not a pro thing to do, but definitely a thing in LAN parties lol

[@parisakos]

8:07 me(ICEcold) proudly laughing )))) and yeah GR=Greece

[@isaac_shelton]

love viewer submitted games

[@mho...]

nostalgic feelings of LAN games playing C&C back then, when none of us really knew whats going on 😅

[@danishdude2191]

Best game in on your channel so far XD

[@calebadam2576]

Always love this kind of shenanigannery.

[@ninja-8224]

Zerg players saw the "zerg mothership" video and wanted to do something just like that

[@exploding_cake9402]

This is such an honorary brons league heros in my book good god

[@getawaykid]

This game had to be between like 2 brothers where the older brother cheesed the younger one, then felt bad and eventually let them win.

[@finns23653]

FINALLY another viewer submitted game!!

[@Fifury161]

I know in 4v4 games you can mine from other races/team players gas extractors if they have left the game. I also "steal" the Terran add-ons when they try to rush and fly the barracks away. I will build or fly my barracks onto the reactor add-on and claim it as my own!

[@JRRodriguez-nu7po]

Using dark archon in SC 1, you definitely can get 400 supply using 2 races.

[@Phrozends]

In Starcraft 1, when using a Dark Archon to mind control a worker, you get 200 supply for that race as well IIRC

[@jlee1522]

I remember playing around on original Starcraft, with the red Archon you can permanently take over enemy suvs and drones, and you were able to ultimately have 200 supply each of protoss, terran, and zerg.

[@BaufenBeast]

Of course having 600 supply in SC1 is unwieldy due to the 120 unit hotkey hardcap.

[@mikekollin4271]

Great game. Please make more of these always more views on these games. I literally check the playlist "StarCraft 2: Casts" and I will only watch the viewer games. these are way better than pro games

[@bwax3135]

Honestly one of the best match ups is TvTZ

[@bb-im6hf]

is there a 1v1v1 mode in SC2? is there a possibility of TvPvZTP?

[@Diemalexander]

you absolutely must make a series where all three races are controlled by one player. to answer exactly these questions

[@levikazama5601]

This reminds me of that JustMonika match where the zerg became the hybrid player

[@gutfriedvonguttenberg5614]

What I need to see is an Infestor stealing a Drone for a new Hatchery

[@BaufenBeast]

If you build something and cancel it, you keep the drone.

[@gutfriedvonguttenberg5614]

@@BaufenBeast I know, but does this mean that the original owner can just cancel the Hatchery?

[@BaufenBeast]

@@gutfriedvonguttenberg5614 No, once the building is started it belongs to the drone's new owner, and the original drone is gone.

[@chrislee367]

It is 7 if you are fairly effficient with neural parasite (61 seconds to build a CC).

[@mastersonogashira1796]

Im disappointed that the Zerg player is not JustMonika

[@Sbeas19]

Thank you very much for the slog weird viewer game. I'm a bit sad that the blue player didnt got to make Thors :/ but in the end we get what we were given and I cant complain that the red player let that one command center to finish. So kudos to these two strangers.

[@Pierre-Jonqueres]

Basically, one has no plan ahead of his cheese, let his arrogance speak and dies afterwards speachless. Deception-game, I didn't know StarCraft was one xP

[@rocketsmall4547]

this is why i always tell my scvs to not talk to strangers. every single scv that comes out of command center.

[@Vampirit]

No no no!!! i cant watch it till the end.... that game hurts sooooo much.... 😂😂 omfg.... thank you for casting this one 😂😂

[@Teacherofall]

What would the best combo of all SC2 races be? For example: would swarm host and siege tanks be an effective combination?

[@bagahbread]

Brood Lords and Carriers. I played a 2vs2 where my partner massed carriers and I masses Brood Lords. Everything got ran over and it made my pc lag.

[@thesquisheee]

I used to do this on brood war with a dark arching. Mind control a drone and an scv and have all 3 races. Back then you had a full 200 supply for each race but i think in sc2 they made it a shared supply. Madam pewpew thanks you 😊

[@thesquisheee]

Dark archon ^^

[@junemarteogayon4278]

i remember when i used to do that on broodwars dark archon in a lan party hahaha.. good old days

[@poodlescone9700]

He should have used stolen Terran tech tree for units as support like the medivac and ghosts with the zerg army.

[@colegrey123]

The wait is finally over!

[@kylocurkovic3143]

i remember you and winter pulling this off

[@JosephParker_Nottheboxer]

Liberators do in fact do air splash damage... so a few liberators vs someone that's not magic boxing mutalisks should annhilate them. Vikings won't work but people always seem to forget that Liberators have air splash.

[@krakerjakx8502]

In StarCraft 1, protoss could mind control opponents probe, scv, or drone and get up to 400 protoss, 200 Terran, and 200 zerg supply, but the workers from 1 race couldn't go into bases of the other races.

[@learningmadeeasy8548]

Really appreciate all the work you put in Lowko

[@randomdude5430]

Man my sanity is beeing lost while watching those games :D

[@zaelaporrou]

Wings of liberty. Literally wings.