Starfield is SO MUCH FUN WOW

[@Roosterboi21]

Bethesda would choose bankruptcy before they ever choose to build a vehicle.

[@Frostknight231]

I think they are trying to get the modding community to do that

[@Roosterboi21]

@@Frostknight231 No doubt lol. They bailed them out on Skyrim so why not here too. Having a deployable dune buggy I think would take away some of the issues with the empty planets. I get that you can use the boost pack, but it just isn't that fun jumping around a desert.

[@peterclarke7006]

​@@Roosterboi21they at least had horses in Skyrim.

[@HarryS77]

You have a space ship.

[@peterclarke7006]

@@HarryS77 not much good for travelling where you need transport the most, though, is it? It wouldn't have hurt Bethesda to include a jetpack or something, surely?

[@AcidHeat]

Run 3 or 5 min in Skyrim and you'll have a little hunt, met a wonderer, seen a dragon, got jumpscared by a wolf and get a side quest with a plot thicker than the whole starfield...

[@reginaldpitifuqmcgee420]

From Skyrim to Starfield is still a crazy degradation for a game studio. I suspect half of Bethesda underwent divorces and/or drug and alcohol addictions.

[@tihonannenkov4114]

@@reginaldpitifuqmcgee420 Actually everything turned out exactly how I expected. I used to like Bethesda, but already Skyrim was worse story-wise than Oblivion, which was worse then Morrowind. I didn't even enjoy Skyrim all that much, I found the game shallow after a while. Then Fallout 3 came, which I didn't like at all, then Fallout 4 which was even worse (in my opinion), I bought both when they had a big discount. So seeing the clear trend, Starfield was the first game I have no intention of buying even on discount.

[@blackbenetavo7715]

I've gone on a simple A to B travel run and I ended up on the other side of the country after having multiple adventures. Never got to B.

[@florians.849]

Space is vast... Only the distance from earth to the moon around 10 times of earths equator.

[@reginaldpitifuqmcgee420]

@@florians.849 yur moma is vast fuqboi

[@PW580]

Bethesda's response. "Well, there wasnt anything on the moon. Those astronauts werent bored."

[@bellm79]

They had a moon buggy

[@FEARSWTOR]

I can't believe no one immediately fired back with: "Those astronauts had a full list of things to do while on the moon given to them by NASA. In a video game we call those 'quests'."

[@hexcolin99]

Someone shoulda replied with "We're not astronauts, we're gamers."

[@Kris-wo4pj]

​@@hexcolin99literally first reply would have been they also werent in their underwear at home on their pc playing your boring ass game.

[@NRSGuardian]

Also, exploring your first empty moon might be interesting, or at least novel. After doing it 10 or more times like Bethesda expects you to do the novelty wears off and it becomes boring. That was even true about the Moon landings. How many people remember anything about the Apollo 15-17 missions? Most people had stopped paying attention or wanting to watch them, because it had become almost routine.

[@Cryogenius333]

"Theres like...a baby in the trash but its actually a grenade..." It was the sound of a baby crying in a stroller and it got me in the most comical fashion. I walked up to it slowly...and just as I got to the stroller I thought to myself..."There are no babies in fallout..." BOOOM!!!!

[@ulisescruz3340]

I was so confused when I heard that for the first time. I went past one and i heard crying from it so I looked back and it blew up in my face lol

[@efu2046]

I have not played Fallout, THAT'S ACTUALLY A REAL THING??????

[@ulisescruz3340]

@efu2046 yes, baby carriage traps aren't that common though. Its funny when you find one.

[@cbalt2243]

I walked upto it fully expecting a super mutant baby to jump out at me not a grenade to just blow up in my face

[@chaosinc.382]

Actual Loony Tunes shit 😂😂😂

[@vewyscawymonsta]

"Oh cool, there's nothing here" Starfield in one sentence.

[@viadelhernandez8666]

When the astronauts arrived at the moon, there was nothing there either…. and THEEYYY had fun…. so yeah…. enjoy nothing brrrrrrrroooo

[@MyBrainGlows]

In fact, Fallout 3 and 4 did neatly the same but even there where some enemies and ammuntion. This is next level of nothingness

[@doomslayer8025]

Redditors when someone is having fun with a game they don’t like:

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

​@@viadelhernandez8666 lol, considering just how boring this game looks and plays, I think majority of people would rather go to moon and do absolutely nothing than play this crap lol

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

​​@@doomslayer8025 Average Starfield enjoyer

[@RIISK04]

Its so immersive. I really feel like im walking aimlessly on a moon that nobody gives a shit about.

[@andrewmaximo4485]

Good spot for an outpost.

[@AresF4]

Funnily enough thats what Todd Howard said he was going for, when asked why there wasnt anything to do he replied it was a space exploration game and that in space theres a whole lot of rocks and nothing 😂

[@Atypical-0]

​@@AresF4So people paid money so they could travel to planets so they could walk around and do nothing

[@warman3096]

10/10 comment 😂.

[@AresF4]

@@Atypical-0 yup 😂 there's RPG elements to it of course but many of the moons are void of life, it's basically 30%game and 70% explore

[@grudgebearer1404]

As someone else said, space being empty is okay, not having a good form of transportation isn't okay.

[@hambonejamboree7750]

Space being empty in a docudrama about Neil Armstrong is fine. Space being empty in a science fantasy rpg is not.

[@RandomGuy-ft3cj]

@@hambonejamboree7750 exactly give me space dragons, wreckage asteroid mines, and let me build a space station

[@reposter6434]

Yeah this I agree with. We do need vehicles. It would add another element to upgrading/improving.

[@dr.ergungurer8996]

Amp, Runner's Delight drugs. Personal atmosphere power. And boostpack of course.

[@justashadow126]

​@@dr.ergungurer8996bind your forward boost to the helps soooo much. And the last rank off endurance i think it doubles your O2

[@Undefined9]

Fallout 4: "I guess I discovered everyth--- hey, an undiscovered school! It has a basement? Alright, let's check it out! *find out it is a vault you missed, spend the next few hours nerding out looting and discovering the nefarious purpose of the vault*

[@KamiCreatives]

Comparing earth to space is crazy

[@T3rr4T3rr0r]

@@KamiCreativeshuh? What kind of defence is that

[@TexasDinoHunter]

Honestly so true, I’ve beaten the game and I still haven’t even done like 30-40% of all the random stuff in the background in fallout 4😂

[@BlastinRope]

spending hours in one location in fall out is wild

[@booblaa9734]

​@@KamiCreatives comparing a good game to a bad game brother it's a video game not literally space not sure if you knew that.

[@rw0dyxer012]

Still cant get over the fact that Todd himself compared this to RDR2 saying it has just as much detail as RDR2. He must've had the world's best weed.

[@Nutty916er]

😂 bro was on them portabellos 🍄

[@SolarErazer]

Xbox looking quiet these days

[@TSE_WOODY]

Dude is literally smoking crack laced with his own farts

[@B-26354]

No he's just a professional liar. He's built his career off of it.

[@danlorett2184]

Bro all Todd Howard DOES is lie.

[@shanehughes740]

Even in the 60s and 70s, astronauts had that moon buggy. It's not like they had to walk everywhere. Not having a vehicle is ridiculous.

[@mdegauss]

THERES A SPACE SHIP. WITH LOTS OF ROOM TO LAND MOST PLACES. >,>

[@ansuz5903]

​@@mdegaussHow you supposed to pop the trunk on a mf with a space ship? Im tryna be on some hoodrat shit in space

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

Bethesda being Bethesda

[@taqial-faris6421]

There is a lore explanation why you don't have it. Engine does not support it, only horses.

[@mdegauss]

@taqial-faris6421 and only straight up mountains

[@Eiwoanxkf]

Bethesda dodging any vehicle mechanics is making mad

[@aumatomos7811]

Riding some alien dinosaur could be fun. Atleast we have boost packs and dash.. those make travelling much faster. you can also use "amp"

[@aumatomos7811]

Jump skip dash jump skip

[@uneterostardust8233]

Space Horses

[@SuperPoochootrain]

I just want a huge ship that I can use to make a jump ship that turns into a mech.

[@aumatomos7811]

How about living ship creature ? Space whale..

[@valix884]

Half of this game is this exactly, the other half is fast-travelling...

[@hayato1886]

It feels like Daggerfall which isn't a compliment. Daggerfalls massive open world is honestly the shittiest aspect of the game, because it's empty. There is absolutely nothing to do or find between towns or dungeons, which is why you fast travel everywhere.

[@slowdown8at606]

Nah thats not true. About 20% of the true starfield experience is loading screens

[@captainploum3376]

And loading screens...

[@Arasaka107]

What about the cool combats in space and on foot

[@Kinqpadi]

nonsense.. things changed crazy with Mods

[@Justmeandmy20cents]

Tbh Todd Howard actually said there was going to be a lot of "space" exploration in the game, but when he said space he actually meant emptyness.

[@SirMeowthius]

So he took "matter" into his own hands and made 1% gameplay. 😅

[@OutgoingGamer115]

To be fair, space is a vast area of basically nothing But as a video game, we should have had rovers and more

[@Kris-wo4pj]

Yeah fucker is good at lying without lying to the point he can be sued. Theres no actual space exploration since all the ships just hang out in small sky boxes for shitty combat no one likes.

[@muffinconsumer4431]

“…when the astronauts went to the moon, there was nothing there…” but “…they certainly weren't bored” -Bethesda Actual fucking quote btw

[@JohnSullick]

he meant explore the vast space of ur imagination

[@rossjs1980]

In space... nobody can hear you snore

[@IHateThisHandleSystem]

Under-rated comment

[@_Arugula_Salad_]

*fart 😉

[@ChildishGambeaner]

​@@_Arugula_Salad_ - a 12 year old

[@macfunker]

The younger players won't get this one🤣

[@JumpAttack25]

😂

[@patrickbateman3366]

Running in Skyrim for 5 minutes: "Hmm what an interesting little cave. I'll just take a quick peek." *spends 6 hours inside a ruined Dwarven city*

[@therealdee3176]

No fr

[@supermaster1325]

Yeah, but man look at Morrowind, look how much fucking content that 2002 game has, why so many Bethesda franchises are devolving over time?

[@patrickbateman3366]

@@supermaster1325 Idk I never played Morrowind, but I'm planning on because I just recently discovered Morrowind memes and I find them insanely funny for some reason. But I still love Skyrim. Especially Dwemer ruins. They really fascinate me.

[@chinobiraizo1060]

😅

[@Mr_Gray_1995]

So. True.

[@tomb6576]

Honestly I love space and the idea of a space Bethesda game alone sold me. There has never been a space game that has truly scratched that itch for me, but especially Starfield. It doesn't feel like a space game, it feels like a directionless, empty cyberpunk knockoff with a clunky UI and a couple random maps connected by long loading screens.

[@bradcatoe]

Right ty. U never feel like you're in space. The space "flying" you're literally like in a gyro spinning around. So lame.

[@kebsis]

Starfield looks like it might be a pretty cool game in several years after modders finish making it

[@user-vx9jy7jl2l]

Bethesda half-ass a game and then the modders make it decent yet fanboys thinks Bethesda is a godlike developer. 😂

[@stormzo6235]

​@@user-vx9jy7jl2lthey have yet to release a good game.

[@monky._.]

@@user-vx9jy7jl2l Yes God Howard Is the King 😭

[@xChaosFlower]

So like most Bethesda games? 😂

[@Picklenicksasianadventures]

I'm glad someone noticed it. They spent 20 years building us a space sandbox and expect the modders to turn it into an actual game. Zero freedom of choice Zero npc dialogue improvements, just lazy long winded spiels from Sam f##$ing​ coe and quest discussions you are best to just skip Through their that empty. The big hoo har they build you up to is just a repeat of the same game with slight randomisation of character roles and the same linear bs as the previous playthrough. And whoever taught tod Howard the concept of procedurally generated maps done us over big time. Honestly.. They should have just made skyrim 2, or remade morrowind or some other game they bothered to make properly with actual rpg mechanics. Hell even a remaster of skyrim or oblivion would have been more successful and took half as much money to make and needed less god Howard bs hype and 45 minute gameplay preview trailers that embellish the absolute destruction of the BGS legacy

[@OriginalCatfish42]

I love how Bethesda's official response was: "well duh its a fcking space game ofcourse its boring and empty.."

[@otrebor1261]

Yeah well star citizen isn’t that boring, no man’s sky either so i guess bethesda just sucks like that

[@anotherone3815]

even in the 70s astronauts already used a vehicle

[@SuperVincent0000]

Dude even dead planets in No man's sky are better than this...

[@jedziej]

This game is created by following rule: size over quality instead quality over size. Many sandboxes nowadays would be called that way.

[@skylarmichellex]

Lmaooooo

[@TD2008T]

I spent my 4-year PhD researching a cure for insomnia but then Bethesda released Starfield.

[@thequestion8697]

Damn!

[@007Hutchings]

PhD in 4 years? You must be a magic guy so cool

[@EdingardSIGMA]

PhD is garbage. 95% of PhDs are idiots.

[@elcee3292]

PhD often takes 3-5 yrs

[@dabadoo7631]

its like everyone is trying to make these huge games at scale but its really not possible, they had 8 years and still no, so lets scale them down and make them good

[@GRITBONE]

I recently fired Star field back up after not playing for months. Took me about 30 minutes to realize why I hadn't played it in months. Sad state of affairs for a game in which I had such high hopes.

[@bradcatoe]

I know. I have a vivid imagination. Like I can sink into a game. I enjoyed the one side quest I can't remember where like you're working for competing corporations in that industrial place. Then I was limr wait this is stupid. Turned it off and never went back. Such a bad game.

[@e33d90]

Why did you trust bethesda in the first place? Hope you learned your lesson!

[@peachy_lili]

@@e33d90 did this make you feel better sweetie

[@e33d90]

@@peachy_lili it did thanks darling

[@Artanis667]

Lmao "oh cool, there's nothing here" perfectly sums up the starfield experience

[@jaye4157]

I mean before you land on a planet u can see if there's life on it or not so of course a moon will have no real activity on it.

[@verified_JC_Denton]

@@jaye4157 That's cope.

[@bobcostas6272]

@@jaye4157durrrr

[@Harryjw67]

@@jaye4157even the planets with cities are dead

[@Wesleycobra]

Eu meio que já suspeitava que esse jogo seria um imenso "pastel de vento", o desperdício de tempo que tiveram criando um monte de objetos inúteis que só servem pra fazer peso no inventário do jogador, e esse modo preguiçoso de criar uns mil planetas aleatórios, deveria ter sido focado numa experiência menos "realista" e mais divertida (por assim dizer), eu me conformaria em explorar uns 4 ou 9 planetas, desde que estes tivessem suas próprias peculiaridades, inimigos únicos, riquezas naturais, biomas complexos, possibilidade de se criar novas armas e itens nas bases com os materiais encontrados nesses lugares (afinal, é mais fácil fazer isso tendo um veículo de exploração terrestre que a gente possa levar na nave, do que encontrar um vendedor a cada esquina do universo)

[@SarcyBoi41]

Even fucking Mass Effect Andromeda had the decency to give players a nice vehicle to drive around in through the lifeless open worlds

[@SvenTviking]

Mass effect Andromeda had a hatchet job done in it by fanbois still salty over the end of ME3. It was in no way a bad game

[@SarcyBoi41]

@@SvenTviking I was not salty about ME3's ending, especially since I didn't play until long after the extended cut came out. I still think Andromeda was fucking ass.

[@ecksbest]

@@SvenTviking It was an ok game, and a terrible Mass Effect.

[@housewilma4904]

it was trash the writing was awefull the plot so unfinished they left out the entire quarian ship and the faces were more bulbous then warted potatos.@@SvenTviking

[@Pav94an]

Andromeda is an ok game but a terrible Mass Effect, it in no way lived up to the name.

[@blakesby]

My favourite thing about Starfield is that I don't have it.

[@letitbe90210]

The main story is set around multiverse theory. For a space game it's not nms or sc buy I can say this for sure... there are some really cool and unique things about this game... but you should try and look up what actual space exploration is like and realize this game gives you way more than what we as humans are capable of lol

[@swampraider3488]

​@@letitbe90210 high on copium, lil bro

[@swampraider3488]

​@@letitbe90210you're high on copium lil bro

[@YoshisVinyl]

​@@letitbe90210 ok so it's still a boring ass game

[@YoshisVinyl]

I got game pass for one month played til I got bored and then ended the subscription lol Xbox ain't scamming me

[@JustinBowsher]

I'm just here to be smug. Did Bethesda not tell us who they were already?

[@Remmy0930]

It's absolutely HILARIOUS that there are actual REAL people out there that swear Starfield destroys Baldurs Gate 3. 😂

[@lylelovset4495]

I don't even think thats a realistic comparison they are two entirely different games

[@srai5333]

@@lylelovset4495yeah but even then Baldurs gate 3 seems more fun than Starfield.

[@CabreraAparicio-xm1gs]

​@@lylelovset4495Don't matter. People unironicly have this mindset over a game like this being top quality.

[@tbone2049]

Tbh cyberpunk 2077 made a comeback and is way more fun than StarField,plus Panam I’ve yet to play Baldurs gate gate 3 for i’m waiting for it on Xbox but it also looks and seems more enjoyable than StarField.

[@NiteAngyl]

Baldur Gate fun? Watching some dice that are there for some bizarre reason and listening to endless boring dialogues. Yeah, you do you.

[@TwiliPaladin]

Starfield: A mile wide, but an inch deep.

[@shippy1001]

Not even that wide to be fair.

[@renztimtiman-496]

@@shippy1001figurative of speech. Basically means the game has hella potential but they haven’t really done much lol.

[@Jakeio-w9j]

@@renztimtiman-496 no mans sky was like that, but they are digging existing things deeper each update

[@renztimtiman-496]

@@Jakeio-w9j yea true. Honestly put some of the features from no mans sky into starfield and it would already be a better game.

[@Jakeio-w9j]

@@renztimtiman-496 I really want to like it but from what I've seen I don't want to get it yet hoping for an update sometime

[@deantebritton]

"hey guys I think there might be some more gameplay over there" lol im dead

[@modisp]

10/10 phrase. Peak gaming

[@jachcoff]

"I CAN'T BELIEVE I PREORDER THE PREMIUM EDITION!"

[@napalmballwipes]

hwankpshpshpsh hwankpshpshpsh

[@andrewe.8321]

I understand what they were trying to achieve with the “scale” but the illusion is ruined when you realize that space is just a skybox with pictures of planets that you can’t actually fly to, and planet surfaces are big empty sandboxes with random copy paste POIs scattered 500 meters apart.

[@bradcatoe]

Exactly. Once i realized this it couldn't be unseen shut game off forever. So disappointing.

[@yvngdxtr6166]

Someone said there are invisible walls in space. Ive never played it, im waiting until its about 4 dollars and i can do all the star wars mods to it. But how you gonna make a space game with invisible walls?

[@diegomolinaf]

"Astronauts went to the moon and they weren't bored" is the official answer on Steam to a customer that wasn't happy (bored) with planet exploration.

[@drmaulana2600]

I swear to god I want to slap someone that made that answer. Like did they seriously didn't aware that Astronaut HAD BAZILLION TASK TO DO IN SUCH LITTLE TIME? Jeez no wonder why starfield is crap

[@oompalumpus699]

They had a moon vehicle.

[@makan1568]

Do they really?

[@GunShark0]

​@@makan1568 yes that was a real response from a real Bethesda employee.

[@makan1568]

@@GunShark0 well so it has to be true 😄

[@AttentionSpanZeroShow]

i had insomnia, so my doctor prescribed i play Starfield for one hour before bed. Now im alseep before i even get to the 10 min mark.

[@CITYZEN50]

😂

[@flat6simracing625]

Underrated comment 😅😊

[@ohiograssman1564]

I use old retro games I’ve played a thousand times over for this 😂. Legend of Dragoon always soothes me right to sleep haha

[@jeremyrhansen6637]

My doctor recommended it for my claustrophobia

[@axelrose9383]

Damn

[@flyingplantwhale545]

The problem isn't empty space. The problem is, when you DO actually come across a landmark, it's the same garbage copy/ pasted over a million times by AI on countless other planets. NONE of it means anything and provides no surprises whatsoever. In skyrim, every landmark has a name, place and story behind it. The open world here is piss-poor by every metric.

[@SvendleBerries]

Thats what I always liked about Bethesda games was the environmental storytelling. If everything is randomly generated, those unique, personal details cannot exist. Whats the point of exploring if you know ahead of time you wont find anything interesting?

[@flyingplantwhale545]

@@SvendleBerries Exactly. It’s just utterly disheartening to have waited such a long time for Bethesda to release something this uninspired and creatively sterile

[@user-on6db4rf4s]

@@SvendleBerries you sound like you`d really, really enjoy the yakuza/like a dragon series lol

[@toybirdy]

Ur Skyrim comment reminded me of Pocahontas’s song color’s of the wind.

[@Hoppelite]

@assman3487 You're right. This generation of soylent drinking blue haired millenials have stripped games of their charm and soul. Everything is so sterile and meaningless. They're afraid to push boundaries and be daring. Fallout 1, 2, and NV were edgy. Many times I'd be playing them and come across something that made me pause and go "oooooooh shit thats dark". Even Skyrim and Fallout 4 had some heavy themes and uncomfortable moments. Starfield has never made me question anything, never made me uncomfortable, never made me think. It's such a disapointment. I've adored every BGS game. I'm a die hard BGS fan. But Starfield is the epitome of the word bland. Makes me worried for TES 6. But hey, thats what modders are for right? Unfortunately Bethesdsa even fucked that up in Starfield. Mods are much more complicated to install.

[@Zinj1000]

Todd didn't understand that when the astronauts went to the moon, they had tons of scientific experiments to perform. He thought they just wandered around for 3 days looking at rocks and taking pictures.

[@nagash2731]

"No, you don't understand. The emptiness is actually FUN!" -- Starfield Devs

[@Ravenport]

And Starfield fanboys...

[@turbotrup96]

To be fair, Elden Ring was somewhat the same - it had tons of platforming sections that didn't reward your efforts when you climbed up those big spiky rocks in the 1st location, for instance.

[@Ravenport]

Not really no. At least u found some enemies to kill oder some Treasure to loot 90% of the time. In Starfield u run and jump for minutes and all you finde ist pure emptyness.@@turbotrup96

[@averythegamer4949]

@@turbotrup96 Elden ring exploration is interesting for 2 playthroughs. After the initial run of just exploring, finding some things and missing others, and the second completionist run to clear every dungeon and side quest there's pretty much nothing worth going back to. Sure nothing is blatantly copy and pasted, but aside from a few dungeons having a unique gimmick there's essentially no reason to engage with the dungeons besides grabbing a piece of gear you need. I wish there was an incentive to actually re do them in NG++

[@xheiii]

@@averythegamer4949 "after completing a game 2 times theres nothing more to do" jesus christ, what do you expect out of a game? these people

[@CharlieStickmanFilms]

“Oh cool there’s nothing here” sums up this gameplay experience

[@zc8673]

I keep playing, hoping the next quest will be worth it. I feel as silly as a people who actually took the time to learn to play caravan lol

[@TheWholeGrainBread_Real]

It's a space game

[@CharlieStickmanFilms]

@@TheWholeGrainBread_Real I’m aware, I’m also ok with criticizing something I enjoy, you could say the same thing about the snowy areas in Skyrim but there is minute to minute gameplay, my main issue with starfield is not feeling the urge or rewarded to explore.

[@ghjcmo]

That literally made me "laugh out loud."

[@orijimi]

Wow, look! Nothing!

[@Cyberpunk-cq7wm]

Every time I can't sleep I fire up Starfield. Start walking to an unknown point on the map and boom hello Mr. Sandman.

[@Aaroncarter95]

By the time it's loaded up, I'm usually asleep.

[@cameronwalker8284]

😂

[@potatomasherr]

this is so accurate

[@RockyLaRosa]

they schould make a arkham batman dlc

[@Harkness197]

Bethesdas new walking simulator with space aesthetic.

[@magnificusdominusduxchad4229]

they legit used space as an excuse for a empty video game

[@ShepGibson]

Except for all the content 👍🏼

[@nuh-uhbro765]

@@ShepGibsonWhat content? You mean the 4 mediocre cities spread thinly across 1,000 planets? 😂

[@MDHDH-iy7nm]

@@ShepGibson man these kinds of takes permit them to peddle garbage like this

[@crazysoundman]

@@nuh-uhbro765thanks for proving to us you didn’t actually play the game! Haha morons like you are hilarious

[@crazysoundman]

Yea “empty” go play your bug riddled Spider-Man 2

[@Corusame]

Got to love Bethesda's smoothed brain responses to all the criticism. I think they're actually living on the moon with how disconnected and out of touch they are.

[@JORDAN-CHRISTOPHERSPENCER]

it just works. dont you guys have phones?

[@DraconicAux]

"The people who explored the moon in real life weren't bored! you're just wrong!"

[@Yugga_Bubba]

They need a new engine

[@FZJanimated]

can you blame them when you have so many stupid people that still buy their game and praise a liar like todd howard because he is "charming" ?

[@vonhellman]

Funny thing is there's still a bunch of people who think this is actually a good game with no flaws lmao.

[@vergodagoat]

LMFAO “there’s like a baby in the trash, but it’s actually a grenade…” 😂

[@ramseyahmed5]

literally an encounter in Fallout 3. Something that scared me the other day replaying it after years.

[@buru2437]

Fun fact: in gears of war 3, they have something like that, but it's a recording of a baby that if you get close to it fires off a bunch of guns in every direction

[@nicholasjackson8709]

Your profile pic perfectly describes my face when he said that 😂

[@MrEstaporqueria1]

It boggles my mind that at no point someone was like “maybe we should add a vehicle so at least the players can do some sick tricks”

[@docproc144]

Even Mass Effect gave you the Mako for exploring planets and that game came out in 2007 lol.

[@FuuzBeeen]

Long live the Mako, you beautiful bouncy jet jumping boostie rover

[@Bodya_CN]

The fucking Warthog, dude. 2001.

[@fireblade295]

Drunk Rihno is garbage.

[@DeadwaveCarrier-oc1wo]

​@@Bodya_CNWho Framed Roger Rabbit and Dick Tracy on the NES. 1989 and 1990.

[@Bdavis2475]

Mass effect is in a whole other universe from this game

[@napalmballwipes]

"I CANT BELIEVE I BOUGHT THE PREMIUM EDITION" bro really woke up from a nightmare only to realize hes living it and paid for it

[@LilBoyTasmanKim]

I've never felt so called out like this

[@fcon2123]

No - he PREORDERED the premium addition. Which is even worse.

[@Solon_The_Lich]

Regretfield

[@ThatHungryAfricanChild]

I pirated it and still feel ripped off

[@deathtoraiden2080]

Thanks Rainier Wolfcastle

[@a55a55inx]

In Elder Scrolls, when I explored a random cave, I would find undead skeletons/druids, puzzles, treasure, weapons etc... In Starfield, I find... minerals

[@DanielLopez-zt4ig]

Pickaxes and minerals have a fundational value/symbol attached to it.

[@j.c.ulater]

Minerals that encumber you so it's harder and longer to get back to your ship...😂 Fun times

[@a55a55inx]

@@j.c.ulater True! 🤣

[@Fantasygod19999]

Minerals that are useless for building anything with settlements. Gear and weapon upgrades are cool tho

[@sourlessfix9109]

Yeah, in Skyrim I struggle to make it to my objectives because I keep finding things to explore along the way. My first playthrough I never made it to the Graybeards because I got distracted doing literally everything the game threw at me. Then there's Starfield...

[@jaybruce6974]

This is the only game ever that consistently put me sleep. No game ever have a fallen asleep time and time again, just to wake up running into a rock.

[@ZaCloud-Animations___she-her]

Bethesda advertised a massive 10-foot-tall bag of chips. But when opened, it contained like 5 Fritos, padded by nothing but air.

[@offspringfan89]

Laughed so damn hard at this comparison 😂

[@eiszapfenderwutendenwinde3233]

Clownfield is the literality of Bloatware...

[@misterturkturkle]

theres no air in chip bags

[@ZaCloud-Animations___she-her]

@@misterturkturkle What country is THAT true in? 😅

[@misterturkturkle]

@@ZaCloud-Animations___she-her all of them? pure nitrogen isnt air

[@drdeadred851]

"Oh cool theres nothing here" the experience of landing on 95% of all planets in the game.

[@Maxx_XIII]

If you count Pluto and the Ceres dwarf planet inside the asteroid belt, we have exactly 10 planets in our solar system. Guess how many of them don't have life on them or anything to do there? 90% of them. Starfield is more accurate than you think.

[@Sagacifer]

to be fair thats probably realistic tho xd

[@sammy_wills]

​@@Sagacifer realism shouldn't get in the way of fun when it comes to games.

[@K.aO.secondary]

@@Sagacifer At least in real life you could enjoy the view… or else.

[@sandlotscout6358]

Play No Man’s Sky

[@SirBlitzALot]

"It's supposed to be realistic"😂 "There's content I swear"😂 "There's so much to do"😂 "The combat is great"😂

[@bry10101]

To be fair the gunplay is better than fallouts. The hit boxes are realistic

[@SirBlitzALot]

@@bry10101 this proves my point

[@The_Sharktocrab]

​@@SirBlitzALothow does people acknowledging the games strengths in spite of its weaknesses prove any point you may have made?

[@SirBlitzALot]

@@The_Sharktocrab chief, a pile of shit is a pile of shit, no matter the seasoning that goes on it. Starfield needs a content update, multiple patch updates, free dlc with extra to do in the dog water campaign, overhaul the AI so ally and enemy AI can actually hit each other. Quality inventory management like having all the weapon tabs smaller/ weapon mods (not just fallout 4 reskin weapon mods) patch ship glitch when only fast traveling everywhere, *Add Conflicting Story PROS: *BETHESDA CHARM* *Tod Howard, "it just works" * Sound design is magnificent on all fronts, (shooting, powers, spaceship) *Quality looking spaceship *The ship builder is awesome, could use more! CONS: * Enemy health bar should be changed or overhauled with different system in place. *Dog shit story, side missions are better. *AI is outdated, compared to other competitors *Combat scaling needs rework. *Shooting is a reskined verson of Fallout 4. *Melee is utterly non existent, with no depth on any level *Super powers are not intertwining with boost pack and other movement abilities, including dash super power * NO True depth with pirating/ smuggling cargo to and from uc and other place etc. * No depth in gunplay very basic, little to no appeal.

[@The_Sharktocrab]

@@SirBlitzALot none of that changes or invalidates the previous commenters claim that the gun combat in starfield is better than fallout. Seems to me that you're just blinded by how salty you are about the game and you get angry when anyone has even a slightly positive opinion about it

[@hannahw7023]

"Erm, but planets irl would be barren and empty. Not every planet has interesting things on it" OKAY, BETHESDA! But that doesn't make for a fun game, now does it? At least adding a vehicle would make the barren landscapes *slightly* more forgivable. It wouldn't be as big of a deal if you could cross the barren landscape in 30 seconds as opposed to 3 minutes

[@ericianwalters]

My favorite was when Bethesda developers took to Steam comments to argue with players that it "wasn’t in fact boring".

[@markymark425]

What did they say in response to that?

[@randalthor6872]

@@markymark425 "yes, we know our game is buggy and boring, but at least it had pronoun selection!!!" -Todd Howard probably

[@FPRobber]

@@markymark425 A Steam review complained that many planets are super boring and emtpy and they explained that since Neil Armstrong wasn't bored on the moon (it's also completely empty) they shouldn't be bored either

[@privatename7634]

when we went to the moon we weren't bored... LMAO

[@markymark425]

@@FPRobber hahahahaha no WAYYYY 😂😂😂😂

[@dy3531]

And they called death stranding a walking simulator...

[@NoahsArk999]

This game has a dozen cities, multiple faction questlines, space combat, tons of random encounters and better combat than any previous game. You probably haven't played it, but you should

[@bryandoley9227]

​@@NoahsArk999pointless debating it, the collective that are bashing either expected a different kind of game or are PlayStation fans who bash anything that isn't PlayStation

[@NoahsArk999]

@@bryandoley9227 i haven't seen a hoard of smoothbrains so dense since the last time the fallout 4/3/nv debate was raging on in full swing

[@VColossalV]

​@@NoahsArk999I wouldnt call them cities. There are plenty of valid critiques about this game, some in video form. The game can be vastly improved by mods, for sure. Fix the damn bugs first, non game breaking bugs are fine, but there still being countless game breaking bugs this long after launch isn't good enough.

[@rpcheesman]

@@NoahsArk999 And you get vehicles at one stage to travel too.

[@AegisAuras]

This game should have an alarm sound when you reach your destination so you can awaken from your nap and take the tape off the controller movement stick.

[@WhiteGeared]

Is there no autorun feature like fallout and elder Scrolls?

[@donaldrts]

​@@WhiteGearedsadly that is PC only.

[@clowncargaming8046]

​@@WhiteGearedThere is, but you'd still need the alarm to wake you up at the destination

[@gmzogga]

@@clowncargaming8046 Actually... I don't want an alarm. I'd rather keep sleeping...

[@clowncargaming8046]

@@gmzogga In starfield you might as well keep sleeping, I don't dream usually but even then my sleep is more eventful than the game

[@SOLIDSNAKE.]

Starfield was supposed to be Skyrim in space

[@Calaban619]

Why I stopped playing Starfield pretty early: someone at Bethesda thought "Exploring" meant "hold W key for 20 minutes on empty terrain, to see each new landmark." Over and over again.

[@donaldhysa4836]

"It just works...and we dont have to actually make anything for you to discover and have fun with. We get to save money and time, you get to press W. Its a win-win."

[@TheRogueX]

That's why you take AMP and use the Personal Atmosphere power to SPRINT REALLY FAST FOR A LONG TIME... ...ok it's still pretty boring though.

[@robertdeckard2136]

Haven't played, but judging by the footage, "landmark" is a generous word.

[@thesamon123]

It's even better when you press Numlock to have your character AUTO WALK for 20 minutes on empty terrain to see each new landmark

[@usmc4good]

You do realize if you scan the area and the landmarks are 500+ meters away, you can hop back in the ship take off and re-land, just re-adjust your landing zone a pixel or 2 closer and when you land you’ll land nearly on top of what you were going to run to…

[@Kenjjoo]

Don't forget- "The planets are empty by design- BUT! That doesn't mean the game is boring." -Some random Bethesda Dev

[@Helperbot-2000]

theres so much to do, but when there isnt, thats because its realistic, but when its not realistic thats because its an rpg, but when the rpg mechanics are bad or simply not there thats because its realistic...

[@Solipher]

That was Todd Howard firing back at criticism, probably would have made a better game if they didn't cut out 60% of the playerbase.

[@raidenj1295]

Best game of all time

[@notchomomma239]

​@Helperbot-2000 if you want realize, go to the park.

[@Ralathar44]

Stop walking across empty planets to explore a generic POI. Start scanning everything from space and then exploring only unique POIs/quests/activities. Your experience will be night and day. The real problem here is that people recognize generic POIs and dead planets don't have interesting things to do...and then explore them anyways. And never learn.

[@vamuse]

What you're describing is the pacing of the gameplay experience. Designers, namely level designers, typically take great consideration in how far we're asking you to walk between objectives for this exact reason. Like you said, this is why during that walk we'll add a narrative beat, a combat encounter, a traversal puzzle. Just.. you know... SOMETHING interesting so you aren't just holding down W. Cracked me up when you closed your eyes, illustrates this point beautifully.

[@Rather1Dashing]

My favourite thing about Starfield is that I have a PS5.

[@mikebak8915]

No Mans Sky did good by being able to traverse the planet with the spaceship at low altitudes so you could travel long, uninhabited distances. I wish they had that in Starfield

[@longxiao9823]

Elite Dangerous and Star Citizen can do that too. In short, any mainstream space sim game lets you do that.

[@hulksmash3429]

​@@longxiao9823 As per usual, Bethesda's games are bested by the technology of games over a decade old

[@spelaoxy]

But when when the game came out it had 2h of content...

[@mikebak8915]

@spelaoxy starfield has a budget of $400M. No Man's Sky was an indie game, probably less than $1M . . Maybe they'll add more of this later on though, but it's surprising they missed a lot of buyer expectations.

[@spelaoxy]

Game was based on lies..period Im not defending starfield im just saying that most of games are trash nowadays and full of false advertisement....

[@jacobboeser]

the fact that they didn't give us, at the very minimum, a rover, was absolutely criminal lmao

[@OutLanderUSN]

I had a buddy tell me the other day to just use the jetpack because a bunch of environments wouldn't support using a vehicle. This clip proves that to be bullshit.

[@SevereOutcast]

​@@OutLanderUSNhe's right though. This is a flat moon Kyle is on. Other planets have a LOT of verticality and Flore/fauna. Using a vehicle would be impossible on many worlds. It would be cool as an option, but you definitely wouldn't take it everywhere.

[@OutLanderUSN]

@@SevereOutcast Cool. It should be an option, specifically for these flat planets. And if it's modifiable, it could even be used on the less flat ones.

[@woulfhound]

Why not just let us fly our ships around the surface like No Man's Sky.

[@HappyH4x0r]

The fact that some people actually bought this piece of shit dumpster fire for full price after all the shit they pulled after Skyrim is criminal

[@seantrevathan3041]

*Crosses a stellar cluster in minutes *Has to spend 30 minutes walking a mile the rest of the way '___________________________'

[@JS-kr8fs]

They did really nail that NASApunk vibe that space is a boring place of lifeless rocks, dust, and radiation, at least.

[@ThatsOurRobert]

Pretty ironic that Starfield is now a budget No Man's Sky.

[@residentrump3271]

🤣🤣🤣

[@user-lh7pl2fu9c]

not even cuz nms is like 50% cheaper to buy

[@mlg4lyf]

@@user-lh7pl2fu9c Id give starfield one thing the gun play is much better then nms

[@JJSideshowBob]

Ironic?

[@Levyathyn]

I'll never give No Man's Sky the benefit of my doubt. It's a company that lied to me, they put it out pure fraud, completely fabricated videos that they pretended were their upcoming video game product for years until they launched. Say what you want about Bethesda, but we all knew what was coming with this game, and they didn't send out fake videos to try to trick people, and lie to people, and take interviews in front of their fake footage where they posted about features they had added that, to this date, NMS still hasn't gotten. I'm not going to buy either game, but to pretend like No Man's Sky wasn't a classic, glaring case of actual consumer fraud is purely disingenuous, and anyone trying to push that game without the added framing of that context has an agenda.

[@엄희성-t3u]

“Space is vastly empty.” This isn’t space. This is a fooking videogame, todd.

[@Guardian582]

bet you enjoy elite dangerous and its takes what a good RL HOUR to reach anywhere in a system you jump to with nothing in between, fricking hypocrite(and moron)...particularly if you complain about the timeframes in starfield

[@vnthony2439]

I would say starfield has more empty space in it than actual space

[@kaydens6964]

Aimed for realism, it’s more of a hard sci fi similar to the expanse than Star Trek which is awesome. Looking for exploration worthy planet is a mini game itself, there are so many things to do in the game, and I literally spent more time building ship than playing cyberpunk from start to finish at this point but hate is gonna hate😂

[@NOHEART19]

​@@kaydens6964ah yes spend hundreds of hours building a cool ship just to sit in one spot in space and shoot stuff. At least there aren't 4 different loading screens when utilizing your ship. Oh wait..

[@Sniped137]

​@@kaydens6964the ship builder is essentially completely pointless, since you can't even take off or land manually because it's a loading screen lmao, not to mention if you are doing a quest there's no point going back to your ship and instead might as well fast travel because you'd rather sit in less loading screens that way. It's such an overcomplex feature for a game that needs content elsewhere. Ship combat compared to other space games out there is a joke, because the power allocation system is a gimmick. Stop defending Bethesda they aren't pay you for it lil bro

[@v0id525]

Truly peak space gameplay, too realistic even.

[@murigrim]

"Listen to the cool radio." I'd completely forgot the radio station and he is right. Why isn't there a intergalactic radio station

[@Boristheborat]

Yeah the game is too serious

[@Romanticoutlaw]

because all the budget went into making vast empty expanses and pointless radiant fetch quests, like hell were they going to commission or license any actual _songs_

[@mrkiky]

They'd need to think of a lore friendly idea of how you can transmit at high speeds, because those star systems are tens of lightyears apart. It would take years for a signal to travel. Then again, the premise of the game makes no sense to begin with: a bunch of Earth like habitable planets with only 1 city on them and the rest is empty. Then you have hundreds of hostile hellscapes that for some reason have "abandoned" habitats on them, fully functional and populated by some "bad guys" who are bad just because the game needs them to be. Seems to be FUCKTONS of good, unsettled land in the Settled Systems, yet 3 groups of badguys™ just decided they wanna spend their whole lives in spacesuits on some deserted infernos of frozen rocks with nothing on them and just harass random people who also visit those deserted infernos or frozen rocks for ... reasons I guess.

[@bickboose9364]

Why bother? Having radio stations would not make this game good, anyway.

[@d3ltaohniner261]

​@mrkiky considering they have FTL capable ships, they should be able to bullshit space magic a reason why long distance communications are more feasible, especially one way radio broadcasts not expecting an instant response.

[@inthedeadhours]

"Thered be a baby in a trashcan thats actually a grenade" is a pretty good summary of the weird wasteland.

[@mieastra]

It's also actually a thing in Fallout 3 lmao. At least, they have fake babies that blow up in carriages, dunno about garbage bins.

[@azbag1906]

Are the trash babies ever not grenades?

[@Kyryyn_Lyyh]

@azbag1906 sometimes you get a “Infant” item and you need to turn it in at a settlement for Karma. Just spam “Interact” on the carriages when close.

[@newdefsys]

In fallout 4, if you travelled that far you would have come across 5 raider camps, 3 feral ghoul nests a random encounter and at least one 3-way firefight between BoS, Gunners and Supermutants. And any of those encounters could easily get your character killed.

[@F0nkyNinja]

And Preston Garvey 2 times

[@Vagabondobiondo]

Which could easily get your character to commit suicide

[@residentrump3271]

Raider: I got all day!

[@divinecomedian2]

It's pretty sad when Fallout 4 is considered exemplary

[@The_Kronicus]

​@@divinecomedian2That actually is an amazing point. When I can legitimately say, "Fallout 4 is a better game", then all reasonable people know damn well that we a problem on our hands.

[@PainfullySoberAndUnhinged]

Meanwhile no mans sky there is no end to things to look at, mine, places to explore, ships to collect or make, and its actually fun.

[@NightBread]

“Most Innovative Gameplay Award”

[@Antractica]

Legendary troll

[@thedominator5620]

Well earned, I'd say! Nothing, and I mean NOTHING, says innovation like making one of the most interesting genres to have ever existed boring!

[@vapingfury4460]

@@thedominator5620 I still think people who pre-ordered this are suckers who will pay for anything whenever Bethesda says "open world" or "go anywhere you wanna go"

[@thedominator5620]

@@vapingfury4460 Never could understand pre-orders, myself. I am fully prepared for Elder Scrolls 6 to be a long wait for procedurally-generated trees and maybe gameplay, assuming that isn't all just the same radiant quests. Fallout 4 burnt me hard, and I even waited for it to go on sale.

[@sopcannon]

umm i pre-ordered but i didnt pay full price.@@vapingfury4460

[@qwopiretyu]

Bethesdas design philisophy went from: complete it, to ship it, to patch it, to let the community mod it, to fuck it.

[@jensenraylight8011]

All they need to fix this is adding a Rover, the second best thing is to add an Aircraft & air battle Heck if they can create a mecha battlesuit and let you modify it, that would be Incredible but no, they chose to let people to enjoy the view of generic Rocks and Nothingness

[@gabrielfrohlichhernandez3175]

That’s why I got No Man’s Sky instead of this pile of shit, lol

[@lulu111_the_cool]

​@@jensenraylight8011so all you said was no man sky

[@jensenraylight8011]

@@lulu111_the_cool Dang, i'm missing out on No Man's sky then, gonna check it out

[@thesatelliteslickers907]

​@@jensenraylight8011its a crazy story of a game that was rushed out the door by publishers, which meant the game was litterally not finished when the publisher forced them to release it. only for the team to work their asses off in order to actually finish it and deliver on the experience they promised it feels like the rest of the gaming industry saw that and instead of seeing a story of coming back after getting screwed over. they saw it as a how to guide for every single game going foreward

[@bizmonkey007]

The biggest problem in Starfield is the lack of vehicles. And frequent loading screens. And the overuse of fast travel. And the barebones combat. And the complete lack of anything resembling real space exploration. And the glacial pacing and boring main quest. Besides all that, yeah sure it’s a masterpiece.

[@mediocrity4life]

You left out every single NPC giving you the bug eyed Xanax stare everywhere you go.

[@jaybutcha109]

@@mediocrity4life😂😂

[@VonTaylan]

The game is also sooooo safe and woke. For example.... are white people extinct in the future ???? 😂😂😂 i am brownish myself but tjeeeeezus they realy like to throw it in ur face.

[@crazysoundman]

You don’t have to use fast travel idiot, combat isn’t barebones, it actually does have space exploration, if you’re that bent out of shape go play so gay ass 10 hr Sony game! While paying 80 bucks for it lol

[@courier6960]

“BuT dOn’T wOrRy ThE mOdS wIlL fIx EvErYtHiNg” This game is terrible and poorly made but everyone is afraid to criticize it because it’s made by Bethesda. There will be no large scale modding scene for this game because the base experience isn’t good enough for people to come back to it. There’s no DLC large enough to fix the colossal foundational issues of the experience. Unless there are some serious foundational changes to the way Bethesda builds it’s games and it’s studio, I think the elder scrolls 6 will be terrible and all the good will that they’ve been coasting on and rapidly depleting will be all gone.

[@ThaGrimbler]

"Todd, how much has Skyrim made Bethesda?" "It made over a billion in first month of release.." "So Bethesda can afford to develop a drivable vehicle?" *Blood vessle in Todd's head pops, spraying your fedora, and the press card stuck in your hat's band

[@Xexanos]

This won the Steam Award for "Most Innovative Gameplay" btw

[@senatuspopulusqueromanus2082]

That was a troll nomination

[@Galimeer5]

Yeah, the Steam Awards were the lastest 4chan prank

[@AvreeL89]

How? How???

[@RRRR-jr1gp]

@@AvreeL89 Steam awards are player-voted and they give (aesthetic, because we can't have real loyalty programs in 2024) rewards. A lot of people played Starfield, as such more people, in absolute terms, enjoyed starfield than the other finalists. And even the ones who didn't would probably rather vote for a game they played. Starfield has 60% positive reviews; however, that's still 85 thousand. Remnant 2, the closest competitor, had 83% positive reviews; but only 38 thousand in absolute terms. It didn't have any bigger competitors because hogwarts legacy, BG3, Dave the Diver and Lethal Company were nominated for other awards You can't nominate expansions (idk why more awards don't have a "best expansion" category it might enocourage not trash DLCs) so Phantom Liberty was off the table. Honestly Steam should only let people who own all 5 games vote, would generate a lot of money and make it a bit more fair lol.

[@nickg.3741]

​@@RRRR-jr1gpMe mad Starfield won an award.

[@Pyappers]

Never pre-order games people.

[@Shamoose010]

I did this one time with Anthem. Never again will I pre-order.

[@TROOOOLLLLLLLLL]

Never preorder from AAA developers. The smaller studios who still have passion for creating a good game still need the support.

[@mlo51987]

Especially Bethesda games

[@nihilisticnerd832]

I would say know the quality first I almost never pre-order, but I did for tears of the kingdom. No regrets there.

[@Typon]

I preordered talos principle 2 and I don't regret it :)

[@noxwarlord4909]

If we get vehicles, it will take 3 loading screans to use 😂

[@MiguelMartinez-pw9op]

And to think I was considering buying the game..... Thanks review, you save my money and time.

[@pauln6803]

After Fallout 4 I'd had it with Bethesda and their god awful writing and shallow quest design. If they ever shell out the money for a better writing team I might reconsider, but at this stage they're just rehashing old games with new bugs.

[@Saladman45]

“16 times the detail, it just works”

[@M3h3ndr3]

with 16 times more loading screens xD

[@relishcakes4525]

If you stop giving them money, they stop doing this shit.

[@KoreanSpy1997]

People keep preordring this type of rubbish just because they're AAA developers are just.. idiotic, stupid moron, no excuse.

[@worm343]

No that won't work, ya know. Blackrock will make sure the "games" keep coming.

[@relishcakes4525]

@worm343 not buying those "games" still results in you not dealing with it.

[@sercravenmohead3631]

Yeah but the problem is goyslop consumers, this is our future.

[@allgtg3]

@@relishcakes4525😄😄😄

[@spinyslasher6586]

Even No Man's Sky, a game developed by a way smaller team and was also pretty broken on release, had seamless transitions from outer space to planet, and even let you use the spaceship in the planet to fly around.

[@IronHorse1854]

It also has a range of vehicles allowing you to traverse the planet any way you want to as well as stay protected on planets with hostile atmospheres or bad weather. It even has a submarine so you explore underwater. And a mechsuit that you can upgrade to be your own personal bodyguard when you aren't driving it. I don't know why Starfield needs to exist when No Man's Sky exists and is a better Starfield for a fraction of the price.

[@es68951]

Yeah but Bethesda can't do that with their broke-ass 20 year old technology that they keep dragging around like their dead mother's head

[@metarugia3981]

Wait til' you see HelloGames newest game Light No Fire. It will shit all over starfield even more.

[@metarugia3981]

@@IronHorse1854 No Man's Sky is just a better game overall and they have less than 20 devs on their team, compared to bethesda's 200+.

[@iCloxx]

That was also the main content of NMS. seemless exploration of different planets is the core concept the game is built around.

[@AliDavodifar]

Thats one of the reasons that games r not usually like real life. Cuz u see, in real life thats how space and all those many planets will look like.

[@lordspaz88]

Skyrim is a game where the story takes place within a world full of secrets. Starfield is a game where the story is about finding the location of every secret. Imagine how tedious Skyrim would have been if finding every single Word wall WAS THE MAIN QUEST.

[@Tony-ix4oc]

Sounds like destiny 2

[@ChadKakashi]

If the main quest unlocked or delivered through finding the word walls, then it would be fine. Just finding the word walls can’t be the main quest though, that’s boring as hell.

[@SpicyItalianMeatball1]

not even finding. that would be too much exploration. how about we put a quest marker on every single word wall and have you fast travel between them?

[@Ironclad404]

>people who remember sumeru world quest

[@kaiserepsilon4011]

No Man's Sky: planets scaled down for convenience Starfield: "Fuck you" (flattens your Earth)

[@jessetanner8774]

I can't believe people play starfield over nms, the comparison is uncanny

[@Toxic_Uncle]

​@jessetanner8774 play both, NMS forever my alltime favourite space game and it keeps getting better (I love the devs) but still starfield has potential, NMS wasn't all that too good when it first come out (I still enjoyed it more then I should tho) but still they plan heaps of updates and just bettering the game all together and plus mods help, but what I'm saying is give a game a good couple years before fully criticising it (NMS still better tho I agree)

[@zacziggarot]

​@@Toxic_Uncle I just played starfield for 12 hours and nms 1.0 is still better than current starfield. It's absolutely wild that Bethesda didn't think about adding alien races to their space game. They've gone back several generations and produced a pile of slop with no roads and one landing point per City. Even Hammerfell had ports that could fit multiple ships, no man's sky's ship ports feel more alive. When a single building in one game is seeing more activity than an entire city in your game you've done something terribly wrong

[@wenexplosion5538]

@@Toxic_Uncle The thing is NMS is a passion project, Starfield is just after your money, therefore if you going to take my money you better make it work from the get go and not years later. NMS fcked up super bad at the start but the devs didn't give up on it.

[@ShadmehR_23]

​@@zacziggarot wait what!! no alien race???? Its a joke right?! Uou can't be serious. a si-fi space exploration without any alien?? so why are we going to explore again???😂

[@fbbb5747]

In Skyrim if we run for like 5 minutes we will encounter a fucking thief who wants our valuables.. imperial transporting prisoners... A troll a dragon a wolf a merchant a town.... Damn Bethesda... What happened?

[@dustynmofos]

Microsoft bought them and secretly laid off half the fucking devs. Probably. /S

[@ronaldhollowayiii2777]

i’m terrified for ES6…

[@patsol8013]

@@ronaldhollowayiii2777Assuming it ever comes out it’s just gonna be like starfield unfortunately. Anything out of that game studio comes out as a fallout reskin now, I’d assume the same will happen to the ES series

[@ronaldhollowayiii2777]

yeah it'll prob end up being a reskin as well but the mod support will help a lot @@patsol8013

[@paulterrell5935]

@@patsol8013nah. At least we won’t have 95% of the game be rng. They wasted so much time and money on making thousands of worlds that nobody asked for

[@connorwiseman3685]

even with the update with the vehicles, its still quicker to run and boost to a location. Just like any Bethesda game its only playable with mods

[@DarthGardens]

When vehicles weren't in fallout 3, we said "that's understandable, the game is still super tight." When vehicles weren't in Fallout NV, we said "thats okay, the game is very fun to walk around in." When vehicles weren't in Fallout 4, we said "heyyyyy you definitely have the technology to do vehicles. this has to be an artistic choice, so it's whatever." Now it just doesn't make any sesne

[@mechadeka]

I've literally seen people argue that in-universe it wouldn't be technically possible to fix up any of the thousands of cars laying around the wasteland. But somehow a guy getting powered armor working in his garage is fine.

[@KeelahSelai161]

in fallout you get interesting encounters like you saw diffirent things while walking in starfield there is just space rock and no music or anything

[@DreadnaughtyArt]

@@mechadeka those same people also then say "umm well that's different" when you bring up the several times in the series that functional vehicles have appeared

[@yarou3124]

​@DreadnaughtyArt for real, it's literally make much more sense to have a vehicle than a fully functional robotic armor suit.

[@guerney2000]

And you had a car in Fallout 2, so it's not like "cars don't exist in Fallout world"

[@courier6640]

I don't think they have a valid excuse for not letting us fly around with the ship they let us build. Edit: if unpain modders can do it, why couldn't BGS? At least let us have greater enemy frecuency and variety between locations.

[@Flameville]

They do, it’s called the creation engine.

[@offensichtlichfabian]

it's called "think about every user" Go in star citizen then and have fun with 15 fps in cities with ryzen 7 7800 and rtx 4080. Thats what you get with the no-loading-screen-realy-fly-everywhere-game you asked for.

[@Flameville]

@@offensichtlichfabian no man’s sky exist lol they didn’t need this many loading screens be honest

[@mr.voidout4739]

Absolutely. We can build these elaborate ships with our time-invested credits, then you ...load "up into" space and yeah... Let's play Asteroids. Let's farm resources for the sheer useless crafting system. Let's pew pew at the occasional enemy ship. Let's.........do a Q/A with a cruise ship full of dimwits. It feels more like a Lego game than a space-faring experience.

[@offensichtlichfabian]

@@mr.voidout4739 This Engine can't handle more. Then leave and play Star Citizen if you realy wanna fly. But don't rage then if you're System only runs with 20 FPS in Big places.

[@christopherthomas9218]

Tod Howard "modders will fix our game anyway, lets focus on how many re-releases of starfield we want by 2035"

[@donaldhysa4836]

"Modders can make the game for us, we will just be making the money."

[@senatuspopulusqueromanus2082]

And then they made creation engine harder to mod)

[@joblo2671]

Sick burn.

[@Drexaan]

not even that since they neutered mods and want paid mods

[@endra808]

And BGS says it’s your fault for not having fun in their empty game. (This short is one example. As we all know there is a myriad of issues).

[@liviuursegr]

"oh, cool, there's nothing here" Glad you got that off your chest😂

[@deadbeef576]

They fired the guy who invented using NPC heads as trains, and they couldnt figure out how to translate this into Starfield. Based trainhead man, you are missed

[@cy-one]

... wait, what? Not the firing-part, the npc-heads-as-trains-part... Huh?!

[@rezzophantasma]

​@@rufumag6742Ok that makes sense. Kind of genius with a limited engine but Bethesda I'm sure is anti fun and pro inconvenience.

[@cy-one]

@@rufumag6742 Holy fck that's jank :D Makes you appreciate what devs like the ones behind Star Citizen mean when they say "we don't want to take shortcuts that would limit features in the future by faking things, but rather make them happen in actuality." Like, while head-train is "workable", that system sounds like it would never allow you to _walk_ onto a train with other NPC an have interaction on the train while it moves around. Or maybe I'm, just misunderstanding it :D

[@cy-one]

@@rufumag6742 I mean, considering all games since FO3 (which is where I started being more interested in BGS) have _shared_ the same issues, even after it had been fixed by modders in the game prior, your conviction there is most certainly leagues ahead of mine. For me, Starfield just... broke me. In a weird way, I felt more scammed by SF than by Star Citizen, because the moment I play a bit in SF, it feels like a game that's 10+ years old. Like, the city where the Lodge is, where you first go... That city's graphical fidelity reminds me of Mass Effect 1, just in 4K (cause I have newer hardware) and better textures. But it _does not_ remind me of, say, Cyberpunk (again, speaking graphical fidelity). CP'77 is 3 years old, Mass Effect 1 is from 2007. That's just a shame. Then people come and say "well, it's an RPG, not (something)", but then you compare it to BG3, where NPC _actually_ look like human* beings with actual faced that express emotion, even if the game is mostly just a birdseye-top-down-game, not one meant for first or third person (where you'd assume the quality of faces and facial animation should play a bigger role). Ah well, sorry. I'm still bitter about SF. I was never huge on the hype-train, but for the last years I had hoped SF would keep me busy until Star Citizen is out. Just a bit mad that hope was crushed :(

[@cy-one]

@@rufumag6742 I had already toned down my expectation a lot (loading screens, facial animation, etc), but it still underwhelmed me _massively._

[@BigDan12]

The ultimate pinnacle of gaming in 2023, the “Space jogging simulator”

[@cletusmandude1]

I get it, but use the quick travel nerd

[@robertvigh9699]

​@@cletusmandude1can't fast travel to get somewhere if you've never been there before. Nerd.

[@cletusmandude1]

You can still fast travel to planets and just go to your missions and fast travel to where almost always u can get to destinations with use of your boostpack to full exhaustion twice.

[@Cognitoman]

😂

[@vocnisicle]

Death Stranding still holds that title. ;)

[@kodster234]

Space being empty makes a lot of sense, however most space games have the decency to occupy you while you're traveling the emptiness or make it expedient to leave faster so that you might stumble across something

[@LevantineR1]

If you fall asleep while holding the analog stick forward, it's like fast travelling to the gameplay!

[@FlameRat_YehLon]

And like, unless you are doing sequence break in speed run you don't ever need to walk long distance to do quests, as 1. You get fast travel point when you accept the quest, and 2. You can literally fast travel to landmark using the scanner. Either play the game or stop teasing about what you don't know like it's political correctness or something.

[@nospmoth6923]

@@FlameRat_YehLon If your response to an open world game, where there is supposed to be SOMETHING if you decide to walk to the next objective, is to say just use the fast travel, theres a serious problem with the game

[@FlameRat_YehLon]

@@nospmoth6923 then there is supposed to be nothing. Do you really think it make sense that an uncolonized planet would be filled with artificial stuffs? Also it's not like of track areas in Skyrim or Fallout 4 would be particularly detailed. Starfield does okay here, just that you got way more off track areas and the "track" is a mesh of points rather than actual roads now.

[@LevantineR1]

@@FlameRat_YehLon Of course it's a ponysona getting this assmad on behalf of Bethesda. Hope Todd Howard sees this, bro. If there is nothing in a space, then of what value is the space?

[@FlameRat_YehLon]

@@LevantineR1 of course you have to bring up irrelevant information as if everyone care about political correctness or something. But the space is there because it make sense. Just like how Breath of the Wild isn't designed to be an open world but they ended up not restricting the player's movement. Just because something is in the game doesn't mean it has to offer something.

[@Enoc63]

Starfield is hands down the best method to fall asleep. It just works

[@michaelconners9624]

Just because Bethesda is incompetent at making vehicles doesn’t mean we should let them off the hook

[@ShepGibson]

Just because you want vehicles doesn’t mean Bethesda needs you to “let them off the hook”

[@crazysoundman]

😢😢😢😢

[@sharkeatinpizza]

​@@ShepGibsonlmao quit licking their boots white knight

[@jacobross735]

It’s because of that relic of a creation engine there still trying to pass by in modern day it’s pathetic. Same reason this game feels like it’s a decade old. I don’t think it’s that the didn’t consider vehicles. They just physically can’t code them into that engine lol

[@frogery]

you keep them on the hook when you keep buying their games.

[@NeonSuperNovas]

“You can’t fast travel while enemies are nearby.”

[@_JOJ_]

Enemy's like on the other side of the planet 😂😂😂

[@TheForbidden_1ne]

Lmfao as soon as they said there was gonna be 1000 planets it was a done deal that there was gonna be a bunch of empty environments and filler out the yinyang

[@ItsAme7143]

I think they completely planned on relying on the modding community to make it a good game🤣👌 I could imagine in a couple years it being amazing with some mods but until then It's just a walking simulator with cool visuals🤦

[@braxinIV]

@@ItsAme7143dude, top modders in the community have already given up on the game. This game is cooked.

[@ItsAme7143]

@@braxinIV i dont keep up with it like that I was js I saw potential with all the worlds for there to be some cool galaxy conquest type mods but I wouldn't even really care if we just forgot about this game either tbh🤣

[@imeverywhereandnowhere56]

No space exploration game will ever beat No Man's Sky. It has over 18 quintillion planets. And all of them have something to do. Plus all the other stuff you can do.

[@yipperdeyip]

They looked at the vast empty worlds of Ubisoft garbage games and thought: Let's one up them! 🤡

[@GuretoSefirosu]

In NMS I simply hop into my starship, fly to that person, then land again. Or I use my mech to get there. Or I use my motorcycle to get there. Or I use my dune-buggy to get there. Or I use the jet-pack to get there...

[@danjjjatest]

to get where exactly? NMS has nothing to do lol

[@GuretoSefirosu]

@@danjjjatest Clearly exploring isn't your thing. Finding the perfect base location, identifying 100% on a planet, getting to a fellow player's base to do something, to save a fellow player or be saved, to do a mission or questline, and more. I guess millions of things are nothing now.

[@danjjjatest]

@@GuretoSefirosu Lol quit kidding yourself. NMS has no side missions or storyline. Its just a big empty space. To compare it to Starfield is laughable.

[@GuretoSefirosu]

@@danjjjatest There is plenty to do. Just because NMS doesn't hold you hand and give you exact pointers and all doesn't mean it isn't there. Heck there is an entire storyline that starts after beating the main storyline! Are you referring to NMS in 2016? I would tend to agree then.

[@danjjjatest]

@@GuretoSefirosu LOL NMS doesnt even a combat system. Its literally an Indie game

[@fohhee]

In space, no one can hear you scream for your money back

[@devincoleman2870]

Why not use Rev8? I just started playing was it added later or something?

[@MaraAlexandra-b3q]

It was added in the latest update.

[@Atoll-ok1zm]

When we're treating fo4 as the good old days you know something is properly fucked. How bethesda manages to completely miss what people like about their games over and over again is just beyond me. Its not the story, its not the characters, not the grand narrative or events or whatever. Its a world and the ability to just stumble across random shit for hundreds of hours.

[@chatteyj]

is it really though? Or are those things just nice distractions.

[@vapingfury4460]

"HOLY SHIT ANOTHER RADROACH THIS IS AMAZING!"

[@night1952]

@@chatteyj Whatever it is it's all Bethesda games had going for them because the main stories or the combat sure aren't.

[@vapingfury4460]

@@The_Venerate i play for atmosphere

[@insidiousmaximus]

yet people keep buying their products every single time.