Stargate SG-1 - Season 5 - Meridian - Jack is adamant / A true friend / Jack cautions Jonas

That's the kind of loyalty you'll find once in a lifetime.

[@bees7604]

What gets me here is that Jack is playing Daniel's role, even though he's never been outwardly enthusiastic about Daniel's perspective. But here he does his damnedest to deliver Daniel's point, stepping up on the ethics grounds because Daniel set the standard, and isn't around anymore to maintain it.

[@TangomanX2008]

Yeah, but one thing, Jack is explaining how basic deterrence works. This is already well understood on earth with our experience with the atomic bomb, nuclear weapons, and the study of nuclear war theory. It doesn't sound like the people in this world had their own atomic or nuclear age. They look like they are about to, except that instead of atomic weapons or nuclear devices, fission or fusion bombs, they are developing something far more powerful. Imagine the movie Oppenheimer, except is Nauquiah bomb resesrch(or whatever this clips calls it) instead of the Manhattan project?

[@Qaeta]

@@TangomanX2008 Also, imagine testing the first nuke had the capability to wipe out the entire western hemisphere by causing the remaining uranium in the ground to detonate like thousands of additional nukes too.

[@AdeptKing]

I think Jack admires that part of Daniel. He respects that he continues to remain optimistic(relative to him) and continues to try and see the best(to an extent) in people.

[@lyianx]

@@AdeptKing I think Jack also respects and admires that Daniel hates backing down when he knows hes right, and that stubbornness is what broke though Jacks walls and how they not only became friends, but has gotten Jack to see that Daniel WAS right on many occasions. Even tho Jack doesnt like to admit it, he understands that Daniel DOES know what hes talking about and that when he makes a point and becomes a pain in Jacks ass, that he has a very good reason.

[@richtea615]

Hammond's professionalism and levelheadedness throughout this episode was stellar. Small wonder since Don S Davis was a US Army captain.

[@burge117]

I love how Jack is willing to put Daniel's reputation over an important resource. The relationship between the two is just fantastic.

[@Ragitsu]

Never leave a man behind...never leave a man's *name* behind.

[@burge117]

@@Ragitsu Oh nice. I like that.

[@ShadowJL]

Daniel was Jack's best friend. there was no way he was just going to allow him used as a scapegoat. when he said it was going to happen over his dead body, he meant it.

[@jefflemere4609]

That, and when one considers the transactions from the first stargate movie to Stargate SG-one series, the two formed a history of understanding.

[@hemmojito]

heartwarming how Jack defends Daniel's honor if you think about how they were in the beginning. This whole episode is a tear jerker.

[@odisseusrh]

or the fact he'd like to have shield instead of a mega nuke

[@hemmojito]

@@odisseusrh Yes. Season 1 Jack would have gone for the nuclear option.

[@odisseusrh]

@@hemmojito Jack and Daniels character relationship over the series is interesting. They went from begrudgingly co-worker to best of friends.

[@hemmojito]

@@odisseusrh Great writing great actors, great story.

[@AdeptKing]

It’s like he said in the first episode, when someone saves a person and their friends the person will tend to feel favorably towards the one that saved them.

[@bubblesthemonkey6615]

I love how despite their constant bickering Jack was the most ardent defender of Daniel in this episode. He doesn’t show it often but he cares about him in the way only a true friend could.

[@Ragitsu]

Acquaintances agree. Friends disagree.

[@MizzStarr-lj2zn]

Jack and Daniel,are like brothers.jack thinks of Daniel like a brother.

[@odisseusrh]

Love how jack at this point was cool with having shields instead of a bigger bomb

[@cernstormrunner7263]

one thing i always thought - in the original Stargate, Jack has lost his son. Along comes a character literally named "Daniel Jackson." Jacks. Son. Maybe Jack sees Daniel as more than a friend and coworker, but as his son. And here he is, losing his son all over again.

[@RealFrinata]

While I think it's a bit of a stretch, Jackson being a fairly common last name, I do think it does help to signify a bit more of a relationship between the two. During the original Abydos mission, Jackson believed they were there for exploration, where as O'neil (Spelled with 1 L and not as funny) was there to assess the military threat, and even further unknown to everyone else, had no intention of ever coming back, not because he was staying, but because he was looking for any way to die without it being suicide. He couldn't live with the guilt, blaming himself for Charlie's death, even accounting himself as to be blamed, thinking he effectively murdered his son. He told no one, not General West, not Catherine, not even Kowalsky, who was his best friend at the time. The only person who managed to find out was Daniel, and not only did he help Jack come to terms with what happened, but saved his life as well. In season 1 or 2, I forget which, there was an episode where they were 'brainwashed' into believing Daniel had died via being dragged into the ocean by a fish creature, and it basicly destroyed Jack, because he was unable to do anything about it to save Daniel, and now here in Meridian, where it's the same situation, but this time he can atleast make an attempt to try and save him, and he's even fighting Hammond, the man he respects the most. Hell I'm pretty sure if Thor showed up to make an excuse, Jack wouldn't of played nice with him either, and Jack basicly is the most polite to him out of everyone

[@develynseether4426]

Seeing this scene again it's not hard to see why Jack was so hard on Jonas at the start on Earth. Yeah he came clean eventually but he didn't at the time and Jack is quite a harsh critic, especially when it involves his friends lives.

[@SeizureGman]

It's cause of Jonas coming clean at the end I feel that he gave Jonas a chance rather than take a Russian officer on SG1 he was giving Jonas a chance to prove that he can make amends for dragging Daniels name though mud to protect his people's stupidly

[@Ragitsu]

Look at how much the relationship between Hammond and Jack has evolved since "Cor-ai".

[@mattboesch8907]

That's what I love about this show the character development of all characters Main and Supporting.

[@dm12377]

It just crossed my mind that "we" used it to build bombs within just a few seasons as well.

[@Ragitsu]

Jack ought to know that defensive technology is invariably turned towards offensive ends.

[@NATIK001]

Very true. I will say two things in Jack and SGC's defense though. The Earth built Naquadria enhanced warheads were safer than Kelownan style weapons as they relied on tried and tested technology (regular nukes) enhanced with Naquadria, making them much less unstable and unpredictable. Earth generally used Naquadria bombs to level a playing field not to escalate conflicts (I say generally as clearly they were used in escalation vs the Asuran homeworld). Earth's enemies already possessed weapons as powerful or more powerful than Naquadria bombs.

[@CyberJellos]

Yeah it always bothered me how the black ops guy with the highest possible security clearances in the world often pretended to be so naive and innocent.

[@lyianx]

Maybe, but wasnt most of it used for portable power generators and their first hyperdrive tech?

[@ThePandoraGuy]

@@CyberJellos Why naive? He is right, the only way to use a weapon of mass destruction as a deterrent, is by using it at least once against an enemy. Now imagine what happens if a Naquadria bomb is detonated on a planet full of highly unstable Naquada and Naquadria deposits. Big BIG Badda-Boom.

[@davidchism6081]

I can **GUARANTEE** that it'll never have the effect you want until you use it, at least **once.**

[@Ragitsu]

*boom*

[@altasilvapuer]

@@Ragitsu "No boom?" "No boom." "No boom *today*. Boom tomorrow. ...Always boom tomorrow."

[@marsspacex6065]

Defence shields 😂 here is this mark 9 naquadria enriched warhead.

[@patrickwilkinson7351]

Well, by that point, they figured out that naquadria is just too unstable to use for anything other than a one-use bomb. The reactor aboard the Prometheus overloaded within 20 minutes of use and with that kind of potential devastation if it went critical, it's not like it would be approved for deployment on earth. At the time, it was thought that naquadria had the generation potential to power up shields and hyperdrives, but eventually it was determined that the material just has too many wild cards when it comes to sustained use.

[@MIGBMWLOVER]

this reminds me too much of WW2

[@IRMentat]

And yet it was the use of 2 WMD that forced a countries hand back then in terms of surrender. Then started the Cold War.

[@Humaricslastcall]

That was kinda the _point_ of the episode iirc.

[@notsureyou]

That is absolutely CRUVICE!!!!

[@ThePandoraGuy]

Jack, you said Cruvice.

[@notsureyou]

@@ThePandoraGuy "Did not"

[@ThePandoraGuy]

@@notsureyou Yes you did.

[@notsureyou]

@@ThePandoraGuy "Didn't"

[@ThePandoraGuy]

@@notsureyou "Yes you did."

[@RurouniKalainGaming]

Jack so harsh when Earth made that mistake.

[@Asertix357]

He's harsh because he's speaking from experience.

[@tylerwinkle323]

well, hes not wrong

[@icer1249]

this episode was sorta like looking at the past for SG-1. They can see exactly whats going to happen cause the same thing happened on earth. There going to go to war, 10s if not hundreds of thousands will die and the bomb will be used.

[@michaeljames7358]

Can we no start a group of peoples that love this show? 😩

[@ich8583]

Das würde jeden Rahmen sprengen wahrscheinlich....

[@michaeljames7358]

@@ich8583 I can’t translate your comment, English?

[@ich8583]

"that would go beyond the scope...."....this is the translation according to my cell phone