Kevin Brown: The Forgotten Ace of the '90s

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@MLB
@MLB 4 жыл бұрын
Always bringing the heat!
@zack21_v3lo7
@zack21_v3lo7 4 жыл бұрын
Hey when we getting baseball back I miss it
@noah_that_bills_fan1613
@noah_that_bills_fan1613 4 жыл бұрын
@@zack21_v3lo7 july 23rd
@kevingohdcantgo10_0
@kevingohdcantgo10_0 3 жыл бұрын
@@noah_that_bills_fan1613 ok
@Roflmao30000
@Roflmao30000 2 жыл бұрын
Always bringing deez 🥜
@cadenloyd5220
@cadenloyd5220 4 жыл бұрын
Bruh he’s my great uncle. He’s lives in Macon Georgia now. The Mitchell Report really hurt his career. And with his alleged steroid use, and his hot temper, it’s unlikely he will ever be inducted into the HOF.
@yankeesfan2821
@yankeesfan2821 4 жыл бұрын
Stumpy 74 cool that he is your uncle
@Mericaguy
@Mericaguy 4 жыл бұрын
Used to play against his son while playing at North Macon.
@Michael-bb9tr
@Michael-bb9tr 4 жыл бұрын
Yoooo that’s crazy
@fishingthelist4017
@fishingthelist4017 4 жыл бұрын
He's not even the most famous person from his home town. It sucks to be upstaged by Honey Boo Boo.
@Dkedwards99
@Dkedwards99 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t think he is your great uncle because he is like 50 and he is my baseball coach at tatnall square academy and his brother does not have any grandchildren so don’t lie to get likes
@jtstevenson81
@jtstevenson81 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up in San Diego during the 90's as a die hard Padres fan. My favorite season ever is still the 1998 season in which the Padres went to the World Series, and one of the biggest reasons (aside from the WS appearance) was being able to watch Brown pitch every 5th day. It was a joy to watch him pitch, from his unique delivery to his pure dominance to his take-no-prisoners attitude. I feel so lucky to have been able to watch him pitch.
@thomasmartin4281
@thomasmartin4281 4 жыл бұрын
Sadly he’s just known for punching a wall now despite also being the first $100 million player
@coinraker6497
@coinraker6497 4 жыл бұрын
Also known as being a roid'er
@themadlad8540
@themadlad8540 4 жыл бұрын
Dang forgot about that
@sammymorales6838
@sammymorales6838 4 жыл бұрын
should change his name to Kyle lol
@JWex-jy7sk
@JWex-jy7sk 4 жыл бұрын
You know Dodgers paid him that $100 million and they never even reached the playoffs once with him... You just gotta wonder much money in total the Dodgers have spent in the last 30 years that’s led to zero championships?
@TheLocalLt
@TheLocalLt 4 жыл бұрын
Punching a wall and Game 7 against the Red sox
@PatrickTX
@PatrickTX 4 жыл бұрын
Stark raving sports with yet ANOTHER amazing video. It's crazy how Kevin Brown isn't talked about that often. One of the greatest Rangers pitchers of all time.
@lazarorodriguez7996
@lazarorodriguez7996 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best videos I’ve ever watched. It’s at such a niche level that I truly feel like it was specifically made for people like me. Kevin Brown was an excellent player. I think I’m going to try to get a Kevin Brown Florida Marlins throwback jersey after watching this.
@robbiekader1437
@robbiekader1437 4 жыл бұрын
“he wanted to play closer to his hometown georgia” man if he ended up signing with atlanta, the rotation would’ve been so filthy
@hankscorpio7767
@hankscorpio7767 4 жыл бұрын
Maddux and Glavine leaving wouldn't have been as big of a deal
@TheLocalLt
@TheLocalLt 4 жыл бұрын
He was kind of a clubhouse cancer everyone on the Yankees hated his guts
@JB-yn9ui
@JB-yn9ui 4 жыл бұрын
TheLocalLt and he didn’t like the Yankees cancer organization that wasn’t about the team at all.
@JB-yn9ui
@JB-yn9ui 4 жыл бұрын
TheLocalLt don’t talk about a matter you’re not at all educated on
@TheLocalLt
@TheLocalLt 4 жыл бұрын
J B that’s fair, the Yankees totally lost their way and their team character during the period when they traded for brown, but it’s also fair to say brown’s surly attitude didn’t help, there were a lot of other guys who weren’t nearly as disliked in that zoo of a clubhouse
@josecarranza7555
@josecarranza7555 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this. Kevin Brown is one of my all time favorite pitchers. His sinker is the best I’ve seen.
@geneabrego9759
@geneabrego9759 4 ай бұрын
Being a Padres fan in the late 90's, especially 98, this guy was a hero!
@cayorne
@cayorne 4 жыл бұрын
Finally someone made a video about Kevin brown
@ericwalsh4881
@ericwalsh4881 4 жыл бұрын
great vid from the underrated goats
@miguelangelsucrelares5009
@miguelangelsucrelares5009 4 жыл бұрын
09:17 He didn't break the rules. He retired before MLB's PED program was adopted. Whether we like it or not is irrelevant, but before 2006 PEDs were not prohibited, so Brown didn't break any PED rule.
@mikeklein1779
@mikeklein1779 4 жыл бұрын
But he did break multiple things in the dugout during post-game tantrums, and his hand by punching a wall. That's why I remember him
@Keough.
@Keough. 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikeklein1779 that means nothing, he still could get into HOF
@justinlast2lastharder749
@justinlast2lastharder749 2 жыл бұрын
This is very, very false. PEDs, and Steroids specifically, were banned in 1991. Testing didn't begin until 2003 when the Scandals erupted.
@TheLocalLt
@TheLocalLt 4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately for Brown, he not only wasn’t well liked but pitched in small markets for his entire career and then with the Dodgers he was more known for his contract and his temper than for his pitching (the PED stuff didn’t come out until later). Then as a washed up 39 year old he steps into one of the biggest sports spotlights we’ve ever seen, the 2003-04 era Red Sox-Yankees rivalry, and thus the majority of people only remember Kevin Brown for the disasters awaiting for him in New York. Brown’s 7-0 start to the 04 season was effectively the last good stretch of pitching he ever put together, after that, in order, this was the rest of his career, and unfortunately for him what most people remember him for: Brown went on the DL in June 2004 with a bad back (it was actually shot but he didn’t want to admit it) and an intestinal parasite, missing most of the summer. then about a month after returning from the DL, as the Yankees were in a huge slump and the Red Sox were hot, Brown was getting knocked around by the Orioles when he huffed his way off the mound into the Camden Yards clubhouse after the 3rd inning and broke his non-pitching hand punching a concrete column. Joe Torre said to his face that it was “the most selfish fucking thing I’ve ever seen in baseball”, and the Yankees did not cover it up, which led to Brown becoming public enemy #1 in the New York sports media and an object of national ridicule. To be fair, the guy “punched a wall” (as it’s usually told) in September while the Yankees were hemorrhaging their AL East lead to the Red Sox, who were red hot since the trade deadline, and he had also done it in the middle of a start with no reliever warming, it was a terrible look for Brown. Then it only got worse: his first start back was against those Red Sox at Fenway (the Yankees avoided pitching him at Yankee Stadium the rest of the regular season so he wouldn’t get booed), where he couldn’t get out of the first inning, the Red Sox scoring 7 runs while Brown only got 2 outs before Torre yanked him. The Yankees did hang on to win the division, and their pitching was so thin that Brown was not only in the postseason starting rotation, but he was the #3 guy. He pitched his last quality game in the big leagues against the Twins in the division series, getting the road start and the win. But the Yankees then had to face those Red Sox again, and Brown was again slated for a road start (the Yankees still wanted to avoid using him at home, not only due to the fear of him getting booed, but also because Brown was a career 0-5 in playoff home games), against Bronson Arroyo. The Yankees took a 2 games to 0 lead in their ALCS home games, and then in game 3 at Fenway the Yankees took a 2-0 lead before Brown even toed the rubber. But Brown again got beat up, as the Red Sox ran into an out to squander the 1st inning and then scored 4 in the 2nd to knock Brown from the game with the Yankees now trailing 4-2. Although the Yankees would win 19-8 it was no thanks to Brown whose last two starts against the Red Sox were stuff on nightmares. But I don’t think it could fully prepare Brown for the nightmare that was game 7. He can’t have expected to even pitch again in the series, as who could have imagined the Yankees would lose 3 games in a row to set it up. But after two extra innings losses in games 4 and 5 and then the bloody sock, controversial home run, a-rod swat play, and a non-double play that brought out the riot police, which all occurred in game 6, the Yankees not only felt the momentum crushing against them, but they also didn’t trust Brown. The Yankees bullpen catcher later said players were saying to each other “We’re fucked” before the game because they knew he had nothing. Torre apparently tried to start anyone else but didn’t trust Loiza after game 5 and El Duque told him he was unavailable to pitch. So they had nobody but Brown. He surprisingly didn’t get booed in his first home start since the “wall punch” incident, but it later turned out there were about 50% Red Sox fans there in the Bronx. The Yankees fans present were too nervous and angry to boo, except for booing the umpires that they felt had cost them game 6. It didn’t help Brown. After giving up two singles in the 1st, he got a huge break when Johnny Damon ran into an out at the plate (same exact thing that happened in game 3, conceivably if neither of those outs happen on the bases Brown could have been knocked out of the 1st inning in 3 straight starts against the Red Sox, going back to that game after the wall punch). After Brown got a groundout to both end the 1st and then start the 2nd inning, Brown failed to record another out in the game, giving up a single and then losing back to back hitters to walks after going ahead 0-2. Torre then pulled him and he left game 7 to a smattering of booing with 1 out in the 2nd, down 2-0 and the based loaded. Torre then went against his own word and put in Javy Vazquez instead of a relief pitcher, but to be fair Brown left the Yankees in a near-impossible jam. Vazquez gave up a grand slam on the first pitch he threw and that was pretty much good night, as the Yankees completed the choke of the century and surrendered the 86-year “curse of the Bambino” over the Red Sox. Brown’s numbers against the Red Sox in September/October 2004: 3 starts, 4 IP, 16 ER Brown only made a handful of further big league starts in early 2005 before abruptly retiring during the middle of a game, in somewhat similar fashion to the wall incident. So yea everything I just wrote is the story most people know about Kevin Brown, while sadly most of the stuff in this video is largely forgotten, but it’s just tough to overcome such epic negativity under the brightest of spotlights.
@XBarajasX
@XBarajasX Жыл бұрын
Poor Yankees management on trades, getting old players way passed their peaks, like Randy Johnson and Brown. Was it for pride and marketing? Just to say "they were Yankees"
@1worldnews1worldmagazine26
@1worldnews1worldmagazine26 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Yeah, he was an Ace on the mound. HOF material, I say yes.
@cpottervlog8122
@cpottervlog8122 4 жыл бұрын
Could you imagine if he would have been on those 90’s Braves teams? They would have been unstoppable
@jgagnier
@jgagnier 4 жыл бұрын
As a fan of a team that was in their division, the 90's was a horrible time to come of age. Glavine / Smoltz / Maddux / Avery / (Neagle or Mercker or Schmidt or Millwood) was the bane of my poor Expos' existence. What they needed more of? Playoff RNG.
@anthonyconant6537
@anthonyconant6537 3 жыл бұрын
Kevin Brown was nasty. Glad someone made a video of this Ace
@johnburgundyyy
@johnburgundyyy 4 жыл бұрын
He was on the Padres for 1 year and was a beast
@MelShibson
@MelShibson 4 жыл бұрын
He was also cursed by pitching along side all time great pitchers. Add just one Cy Young award and he'd be much better remembered, but it's hard to compete against guys like Randy Johnson and Greg Maddux for it.
@BachBeethovenBerg
@BachBeethovenBerg 3 жыл бұрын
I remember him most for contributing to the Yankees 2004 ALCS collapse
@rpheasant3995
@rpheasant3995 4 жыл бұрын
Back in the day I was hoping he would join the Braves. Their pitching always seemed to choke in the playoffs but he was a beast who I thought would excel in the playoffs.
@Mondo762
@Mondo762 4 жыл бұрын
As a Giants fan I certainly remember Kevin Brown. I hated when he pitched against my team because he was so dominate. However, I did respect him both then and now.
@Cookiemanscity
@Cookiemanscity 4 жыл бұрын
Brown was a beast!!!
@Bmoredood
@Bmoredood 4 жыл бұрын
Love the videos man great stuff
@keith3915
@keith3915 4 жыл бұрын
This was recommended to me because there's O's announcer named Kevin Brown and his twitter jokes that he's "Not that Kevin Brown" I had to look up who the other one was and when I saw he didn't get the '96 Cy Young I was in utter shock.
@avocada2874
@avocada2874 4 жыл бұрын
he was so fire in Ken Griffey Jr.'s Slugfest
@justinlast2lastharder749
@justinlast2lastharder749 2 жыл бұрын
I remember Livan Hernandez for his mostly mediocre Giants run from my childhood. It's so odd seeing him on that Single Game Playoff Strikeouts record list.
@tankwfw
@tankwfw 4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: During Kevin Brown has a higher career fWAR than Tom Glavine and John Smotlz. both of whom are in the Hall of Fame
@bonn1771
@bonn1771 4 жыл бұрын
Kevin was a stud for fantasy draft
@tigerkiller113
@tigerkiller113 4 жыл бұрын
Add this man to The Show 20 👌
@thezdbailey
@thezdbailey 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. He got that few HOF votes??? Idk if I consider him a HOFer, but he was incredible to watch doing his thing. My God, he threw a heavy ball....
@janellemaynait
@janellemaynait 4 жыл бұрын
He was the most stubborn player that I ever seen
@goodfellow9932
@goodfellow9932 4 жыл бұрын
DUDE.. the ring up by the umpire at 2:27 is the shit only legends are made of
@idIethreat
@idIethreat 4 жыл бұрын
Boss.
@joshuapatrick682
@joshuapatrick682 3 жыл бұрын
I might be weird but I honestly don’t mind PED use in sports. It helps aging players keep from getting injured as often or as long and makes games for memorable and fun for consumers. If everyone is allowed (since we know some will always do it regardless of legality or find loopholes such as HRT) then the playing field is now leveled. The mental game cannot be taught but nootropics are legal even though they’re basically mental PEDs. So, for some reason people are allowed to take Mental PEDs but not physical ones...
@saucydawcy0811
@saucydawcy0811 4 жыл бұрын
You should do a video on the 07 Rockies the greatest comeback that never was
@BlairDaly
@BlairDaly 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid! Solid info. thanks.
@ticnatz
@ticnatz 4 жыл бұрын
It is quite amazing that the Rangers called him up in '86, his initial minor league numbers were't very impressive. But scouts know things. Playing all of 1987 in the minors, he was abysmal. 1-11 record, 6.49 ERA, and in A ball, AA, & AAA. But again, scouts know things. 1988 was quite a bit better, but not outstanding (AA), yet he got called up again. He never looked back after that only having a couple of rehab stints later in his career. Very respectable career and he made almost $131 million playing a game. Good for him.
@bradsully6620
@bradsully6620 3 жыл бұрын
He had a killer stache back in 1992.
@hmhm856
@hmhm856 4 жыл бұрын
Kevin Brown, Javy Vazquez, and Carl Pavano had great talent and were supposed to lead Yankees from 2004 and on, after Clemens and Pettite went to Astros. Shame they couldnt stay healthy or just get it right.
@TheTEN24
@TheTEN24 3 жыл бұрын
Crazy how he constantly didn’t get support which is probably why I don’t know much about him
@Lawomenshoops
@Lawomenshoops 4 жыл бұрын
The Rangers had Bobby Witt and Brown on their staff. Witt became a journeyman.
@jaredgrant3565
@jaredgrant3565 4 жыл бұрын
Yuh I want the show but like there’s a new one every year
@trajan75
@trajan75 4 жыл бұрын
Kevin was a great pitcher, but sometimes he couldn't control his temper. I recall that towards the end of his career he was pitching well for the Yankees but after a bad outing he hit the water cooler and broke pitching hand. I believe that injury may cost him a shot at the Hall of Fame.
@Roysorb
@Roysorb 4 жыл бұрын
Seems to me that steroid questions are really a case to case basis. The mitchell report and mlb suspensions (actually getting caught) are the two things that HoF voters and fans alike don't like to overlook.
@OlympicSwimmerGhostRider
@OlympicSwimmerGhostRider 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on Johnny Vander Meer?
@boypancake1231
@boypancake1231 4 жыл бұрын
I didn’t even know Michael Jordan had a flu game
@charlieparkinson9666
@charlieparkinson9666 4 жыл бұрын
Can u do a vid on Tim Lincecum
@StarkRavingSports
@StarkRavingSports 4 жыл бұрын
We actually did one last year! kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z6Oniaqsjq6BjLM
@NebMunb
@NebMunb 4 жыл бұрын
Kevin Brown kinda works like Nolan Ryan from the mound
@dougg2012
@dougg2012 4 жыл бұрын
All I knew before this was Game 7, 2004 ALCS.
@Snuckster2
@Snuckster2 4 жыл бұрын
FINALLY! literally belongs in the hall of fame but for some unknown reason totally gets forgotten. I flippin hate him cuz of the nono against the Giants but there were few pitchers I legit dreaded to watch games they pitched. ...he was one
@jgagnier
@jgagnier 4 жыл бұрын
The reasons are very well known : PED and a personality only a mother could love. We can debate whether these reasons merit exclusion (I think yes and no, respectively), but yeah, they're known.
@mattmcgovern6448
@mattmcgovern6448 3 жыл бұрын
Clemens?
@msgtblbj
@msgtblbj 3 жыл бұрын
I'm just learning right now that Randy Johnson pitched for the Astros. Wtf?
@Reedinho
@Reedinho 4 жыл бұрын
How can you break a rule that didn't exist yet??
@ejkle
@ejkle 4 жыл бұрын
What about al leiter? Do a vid on him.
@jomama4320
@jomama4320 4 жыл бұрын
We’re is baseball in Puerto Rico
@mikevismyelement
@mikevismyelement 4 жыл бұрын
I literally and I mean LITERALLY don't give a shit if you juiced between 1980-2008.
@billnye1329
@billnye1329 4 жыл бұрын
5:20 yeah who tf is Roger Clemens
@SirAnthonyChirpsALot
@SirAnthonyChirpsALot 4 жыл бұрын
Along with all the reasons mentioned in the video, I think I have another reason why he got so few HOF votes. This might seem silly, but hear me out: the name "Kevin Brown" is really boring and forgettable. When people talk about Pedro, Clemens, Verlander, etc., you only have to refer to them by one name for people to recognize them and they stick in the minds of people. "Kevin Brown" is barely more interesting than "John Smith". Randy Johnson is an exception to this idea, but I think his imposing frame certainly helped him stick in the minds of people.
@l.rongardner2150
@l.rongardner2150 4 жыл бұрын
Got the big contract from the Yankees, got off the 'roids, and went south.
@pigpotty
@pigpotty 4 жыл бұрын
L. Ron Gardner I think he was still using something with the Yankees. There was one month where Kevin Brown and Jason Giambi both went in the DL with “intestinal parasites” they supposedly got in Japan. Always assumed that was bs to cover they used something that made them sick
@JB-yn9ui
@JB-yn9ui 4 жыл бұрын
pig potty sorry. He actually had food poisoning from raw fish in Japan 😂
@ryantouhey1997
@ryantouhey1997 4 жыл бұрын
My Yankees got him waaaaay tooooo late.
@LoowheezeBreeze
@LoowheezeBreeze 4 жыл бұрын
Some other forgotten stars to consider for your next video: Johan Santana, Carlos Delgado, Albert Belle, Todd Helton, Gary Sheffield, Fred McGriff, Nomar Garciaparra, Pedro Guerrero
@rogerszmodis
@rogerszmodis 4 жыл бұрын
I've seen clearer video of bigfoot than some of the stuff in this.
@bigperm4119
@bigperm4119 3 ай бұрын
He was better than Mike Mussina
@idIethreat
@idIethreat 4 жыл бұрын
Filthy Stuff. You can't teach what he has. His windup made him that much harder to face. The fact that he has an absolute cannon and that he's hard to time due to his windup make him one of the scariest pitchers of All Time.
@burnlastsunday
@burnlastsunday 2 жыл бұрын
No one ever mentions the charity Brown and his wife started for kids. As big a jerk as he could be, I guess he was great around kids.
@t.o.6953
@t.o.6953 4 жыл бұрын
JAWS has Rick Reuschel at 49. He deserves to be in. He was the only bright spot for some truly dogshit Cubs teams
@TheKhaosDemon
@TheKhaosDemon 4 жыл бұрын
I blame Kevin Brown for the 2004 ALCS collapse for the Yankees. He’s hot garbage in my eyes.
@lawrencetaylor4101
@lawrencetaylor4101 Жыл бұрын
This was a very confusing video for me to watch due to my colour blindness. You talked about a guy named Brown but then talked about it not being black nor white?
@SconnerStudios
@SconnerStudios 4 жыл бұрын
He doesn't deserve to be on the same level as Johnson, Pedro, Maddux, Glavine, Mariano, Wagner, no ace or closer. He did roids, his stats weren't that amazing, and he never showed any remorse for taking steroids.
@JB-yn9ui
@JB-yn9ui 3 жыл бұрын
Ice cold take😂 so bad
@benjaminchristiansen9852
@benjaminchristiansen9852 4 жыл бұрын
I think he just has too boring of a name...
@dukedematteo1995
@dukedematteo1995 4 жыл бұрын
The big 4 of the 90s was Clemens, Pedro Johnson and Maddux. Schilling Smoltz and Kevin Brown are the next tier down.
@harleypeterson2433
@harleypeterson2433 4 жыл бұрын
And Glavine
@donwhiteley3293
@donwhiteley3293 4 жыл бұрын
@@harleypeterson2433 And what do all those pitchers have in common? Pedro, Johnson, Maddux, Smoltz, and Glavine - all 1st ballot HOFers. Clemens would have been a 1st ballot HOFer if not for PEDs. Schilling would already be in the HOF if not for some conservative comments combined with some "questionable" comments about members of the media. Kevin Brown - either forgotten or yeah, he was decent. Again, with Brown there is the steroid issue, but strictly by the numbers he deserves to be in the HOF.
@harleypeterson2433
@harleypeterson2433 4 жыл бұрын
@@donwhiteley3293 agreed. Even Mussina is in the HoF and he didn't have quite the stretch of dominance that Brown did. Maybe it was the name being so easily forgettable, the same way Larry Walker slid under the radar for so long too.
@hmhm856
@hmhm856 4 жыл бұрын
No no. Tier 1 of 1990s was Maddux, Clemens, Glavine, Randy Johnson, and Smoltz Tier 2 is Mussina, Pettite, and Schilling, and Kevin Brown. Pedro is more Tier 1 of late 90 and early 2000. What made Pedro special in the 1990's was that he dominated the heart of the steroid era while pitching in the AL East with a DH and all those hitter friendly parks, and also how he dominated in 1997 with Expos over Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, and Schilling.
@AnsticePalo
@AnsticePalo 4 жыл бұрын
@@harleypeterson2433 Mussina is in because he was incredibly consistent. He also won 270 games compared to Kevin Brown's 211.
@cammriggs
@cammriggs 4 жыл бұрын
Can we get a vid of my boy Fred McGriff?
@riding4beers889
@riding4beers889 4 жыл бұрын
Scruff McGruff
@FishCatsHistory
@FishCatsHistory 4 жыл бұрын
How about Tom Emanski?
@idk9276
@idk9276 4 жыл бұрын
Crime Dog 🐶
@denistuohy2535
@denistuohy2535 4 жыл бұрын
Woof
@bradsully6620
@bradsully6620 3 жыл бұрын
Crime dog!!!
@captainmorgan8691
@captainmorgan8691 4 жыл бұрын
kevin brown has the same pitching slot as trevor gott in mlb the show 19 lol
@Secretservice709
@Secretservice709 4 жыл бұрын
You mean Trevor gott the same as him
@jasonfire3434
@jasonfire3434 4 жыл бұрын
I mostly remember Brown for signing that huge contract with the Dodgers and being... ok to good, but hurt. Which is a shame
@razzrazz8791
@razzrazz8791 4 жыл бұрын
Can we get a vid explaining how Alfonso Soriano, a 7x all star, 40-40 season guy with over 400 homers, has only a career war of 28.6
@noahwright8109
@noahwright8109 4 жыл бұрын
Easy, he was an apallingly bad second baseman early on in his career. -50 total zone runs and defensive runs saved combined from 2000 to 2005.
@chasep86
@chasep86 4 жыл бұрын
Noah Wright Good pts. I remember how bad he was there, had to put Knoblauch I think there occasionally with others. Dude made up for it with his stick for sure
@fnregistration
@fnregistration 4 жыл бұрын
If you're a Cubs fan you already know how.
@mattcomer6379
@mattcomer6379 4 жыл бұрын
He didn’t walk a lot either. WARs aren’t very high with a low OBP
@Il_Exile_lI
@Il_Exile_lI 4 жыл бұрын
He had -10 career dWAR and only a career .319 OBP. His career OPS+ is only 112, good but not great. His terrible walk rate really hurts him there. He had nearly 4x as many strikeouts as walks.
@mftepera
@mftepera 4 жыл бұрын
Other than the stink of roids, I suspect the combination of changing teams so much and having a very generic name didn’t help his cause. Sounds silly, but that’s how little faith I have in the HOF voters. I really enjoyed watching him play for Texas...they were such a piss ant organization until he and Nolan Ryan showed up. Great idea for a video.
@billkarim9715
@billkarim9715 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like he never got the credit he deserved during the 90s, due to pitching on small market teams and not being likeable. Despite the fact that his numbers were about as good as anyone else's during his best years, showing up in the playoffs, taking unheralded teams to the WS, etc... So, he got Bonds syndrome, he was probably jealous, so...he cheated. It's unfortunate that he chose to do that, if he did, but, it's understandable.
@charismatic9904
@charismatic9904 4 жыл бұрын
Marlins fan here since 1993...trust me those of us who are over age 34, we love Brown. This dude was beast. I am 39 now and still feel he got robbed of the 96 cy young. (finishing 2nd). He also came 1 hit batter away from a perfect game. I loved the 98 padres and always loved the dodgers (after my marlins)...so I was a fan of his for a lonnngggggg time.
@lefthooklansing
@lefthooklansing Жыл бұрын
Chipper Jones said he was the toughest he ever faced and Maddux said he couldn't even bunt off him
@nabisco0523
@nabisco0523 4 жыл бұрын
I’m a noob to baseball, just starting to learn and fall in love with this sport, but damn how have I never even heard of this guy until this video? All I’ve been doing during quarantine is researching baseball and this guy’s name never even came up. Thank you so much for this video, going to look up more on this guy now!
@TheLocalLt
@TheLocalLt 4 жыл бұрын
He was a dick lol also his September and October 2004 was beyond nightmarish and also when he was under by far the brightest spotlight, see my comment on it, sort by new
@cnking27
@cnking27 4 жыл бұрын
He was completely untouchable in his Padres year. I also think he changed the game in that a ton of guys started adding sinkers and two-seamers after him...and Maddux, but mostly him. Maddux was known for painting corners, not throwing a heavy sinker (he did), but Brown was notorious for being able to induce grounders whenever he wanted.
@Kharmatos13
@Kharmatos13 3 жыл бұрын
i agree with the other guy. he was painted as a dick by the media, like barry bonds was, so they got to be villains. the difference is bonds hit 8 billion homers and will eventually get in the hall. probably also like a-rod. got blasted for getting his 250 mill deal. brown got the first 100 so he would've gotten the same anti-money blasting too.
@rocknrallsoul94rockero4
@rocknrallsoul94rockero4 3 жыл бұрын
Ironically I'm a noob to the nfl
@Supadupasebas
@Supadupasebas 4 жыл бұрын
It these players that are essentially homeless and without a definitive franchise to be attached to that have the hardest difficulty when trying to get into the HOF
@HarrisHighlights
@HarrisHighlights 4 жыл бұрын
Dodgers legend
@ColeAdams
@ColeAdams 4 жыл бұрын
Do you have a bobblehead of him lol
@HarrisHighlights
@HarrisHighlights 4 жыл бұрын
@@ColeAdams Hahaha if they would've made one for him I definitely would
@Ear426
@Ear426 4 жыл бұрын
I think after watching this video, a strong modern comparison to Kevin Brown is Jake Arrieta. The only difference is that Arrieta did win a Cy Young (and to our knowledge has not taken/been accused of taking illegal substances), but the similarities are uncanny: --6'4" RHP --Sinker baller --Funky motion that hides the ball well --Had periods of struggle and dominance --Pitched for 3+ teams, including in both leagues --Won a WS --All-Star --1x 20 game winner --1x sub-2.00 ERA season --Thrown a no-hitter (Arrieta 2, Brown 1) --Big AAV contracts for their time --Bit of a temper And I'm sure the deeper analytics would find even more parallels. Awesome video by the way!
@JustinWPruett
@JustinWPruett 4 жыл бұрын
That’s neat, but don’t act like their careers are comparable. Kevin Brown had a seven year peak of dominance. Jake Arrieta had two, arguably two and a half seasons. Very big difference. Everyone will remember Jake for his very brief dominance. Kevin’s wasn’t brief.
@Ear426
@Ear426 4 жыл бұрын
Justin Pruett For sure, another difference is that Brown didn’t slow down nearly as fast as Arrieta once they figured it out, which again, they’re quite similar pitchers from different eras but far from clones.
@paddykeefer6345
@paddykeefer6345 4 жыл бұрын
It sucks what the Phillies did to him. They changed his form, and ruined him. The cubs let him flyyyyyy.
@josecarranza7555
@josecarranza7555 4 жыл бұрын
Paddy Keefer No, Jake Arriatta was already regressing when he was with the cubs.
@maxamillionphillipbeckett3237
@maxamillionphillipbeckett3237 4 жыл бұрын
Besides the funky motion I get Matt Cain vibes
@macandrewes
@macandrewes 4 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a comparison of players in the hall who were notorious for sucking up to writers/media, vs guys with similar numbers not in the hall who were notoriously salty.
@willm3027
@willm3027 4 жыл бұрын
Yankees got him too late. Thats how i know Kevin brown
@JWex-jy7sk
@JWex-jy7sk 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah Game 7 when he got shelled by the Red Sox is all Yankees fans really remember him for...
@CalebsCards
@CalebsCards 4 жыл бұрын
Too bad he had injury problems later on with the Dodgers, cause he was dang good!
@shadowjefflander
@shadowjefflander 4 жыл бұрын
Brown was robbed of the Cy Young. If he and Smoltz had those same seasons in 2019, Brown still would not of won it but would probably have placed higher than Smoltz. I also think one of the reasons he is a forgotten ace is how it ended: lit up in two starts by the BoSox in 04 ALCS and his worst year statistically in 05. Despite the Mitchell Report and his temper, I hear Brown is a really good dude. I hope retirement is treating him well.
@guyincognito320
@guyincognito320 2 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite windups all time. As cool as Lincecum's but without utilitarian reasons. It looks like he developed that twist as his career went along. It's weird that this is the only noteworthy player named Brown in baseball history. It's the 5th or so most common name. There have only been MLB 8 players with that name according to baseball-reference. So the GOAT Brown is most definitely Kevin. I always liked him and thought he got kinda shafted in the awards category. He supposedly was a hard ass, but I tend to like whoever the media doesn't. Ornery pitchers are one of the things I really like about baseball. On a side note, I completely forgot that that stacked Astros team of 1998 rented Randy Johnson for a half year, gunning for a WS. He only went 10-1 with a 322 ERA+. That team was a big disappointment, never getting very far despite being exceptionally talented.
@daviddamascus9657
@daviddamascus9657 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid. I was one fan who was well acquainted with how good Kevin Brown was because I'm a Braves fan. He was a really good pitcher but for some reason when he played against Atlanta he became Roger Clemens pitching to a highschool team.
@PunaniTsunamii
@PunaniTsunamii 4 жыл бұрын
I think Josh Johnson and Ian Kennedy are 2 that fell off.
@VenomousStare
@VenomousStare 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. In Joe Torre's book he said Brown was emotionally fragile
@MrPezdispencer
@MrPezdispencer 4 жыл бұрын
Another one of those good underrated pictures from the 90s and 2000 I think was Brad Radke. Stuck behind terrible Twins teams and had one of the most ridiculous walks to innings pitched ratios.
@LiveFromThePorcelainPalace
@LiveFromThePorcelainPalace 4 жыл бұрын
I could be wrong.. but wasn't Kevin Brown the first $100 million player?
@vonheimler
@vonheimler 4 жыл бұрын
I remember him...because I am a braves fan...Brown absolutely OWNED the braves, I just knew they would lose if they were facing him. Respect.
@Arms1234
@Arms1234 2 жыл бұрын
First $100 million man.
@jamescurth701
@jamescurth701 4 жыл бұрын
6:56 Kevin Brown “Destroyed a toilet”
@ligmaemperor7064
@ligmaemperor7064 4 жыл бұрын
that damn Taco Bell
@billkarim9715
@billkarim9715 4 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Joaquin Andujar. Kinda shocking that it actually happened more than once...nd both times courtesy of hot-headed, veteran SPs
@RoboSeal1
@RoboSeal1 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah he was very forgetful after signing with my Dodgers
@caffmeister
@caffmeister 4 жыл бұрын
Randy Johnson, Pedro and Clemens were the first three that came to mind for me
@miro11912
@miro11912 3 жыл бұрын
Johnson, Maddux & Clemens for me
@neilyaremchuk6798
@neilyaremchuk6798 4 жыл бұрын
KB anchored my fantasy baseball time year after year.
@EL-iw5ci
@EL-iw5ci 4 жыл бұрын
Became a Giant Killer in FL, then he moved out west to continue killing them. I think I celebrated when he signed with the Yankees
@fryncyaryorvjink2140
@fryncyaryorvjink2140 4 жыл бұрын
Why was he forgotten? Was it because his name was too average?
@yungplouie
@yungplouie 4 жыл бұрын
right lol
@NYGOLD
@NYGOLD 4 жыл бұрын
He's one of the guys on the Yankee list that took them to the cleaners. Kevin Brown, Carl Pavano, & Jacoby Ellsbury all signed BIG contracts with the Yankees and hardly played at all. These are the only Yankees I like. LOL Lets go Mets!
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