Starmer says NHS must ‘reform or die’ - but how?

[@modelzone5727]

Isn’t it funny how England have the money to throw about other people and other countries but they can’t help us who live in the UK and are born and bred in the UK!

[@chazwyman]

Those people work harder, pay their taxes, and cause less crime. DO not panic - you have been lied to, you are in a cult.

[@7-Earths]

You're both in a cult. They just conjure up money digitally and on plastic notes. Yet they can't "afford" any of this.

[@ziggyzagg5419]

thats the 22billion black hole

[@Lulu646]

Absolutely! Rubbishers!

[@carolinehops]

It’s a narcissist mindset…narcs so nice to outsiders,but thoses one or two close to them ,they treat like shite.

[@maurabrown6229]

Stsrmer you have money for war etc... But not for the NHS or the pensioners

[@EarthWatcher736]

Bring back guy fawkes.

[@ibrstellar1080]

Because the 2ar makes money for his Sabbatean bankers via blackrock/Vanguard.

[@accountdos6650]

Laughable seriously!!! He just stated that USA and UK are strong in supporting Ukraine in war!!!!! What is this??? Why the UK people don't fight for their country????

[@Sage-Em]

Well at least now you know, and he flat out showed you who he is. This one isn't hiding his inner villain

[@happydays4302]

​@@accountdos6650 we need to tax the superrich a bit more. Highest rate tax has gone down.

[@benvair1370]

This is Starmer's first indicator that he is kicking the NHS can down the road, the NHS will be slowly strangled as he blames the Conservatives, just as the Conservatives when they were in power blamed Labour. In 1946 the new Labour Government put into effect their plans for a national health service, two years later in 1948 the NHS was up and running and was the pride of the nation for the next 25 years.

[@richardparmenter188]

It is now the global service. British people are pushed aside whilst we treat foreigners. Not racist. Fact

[@piper081147]

We are no longer a country with an NHS. We are an NHS with a country.

[@themk4982]

It never ran that well

[@daveyjuice7710]

To complete what Stevens failed to do.

[@jacquityler2803]

Didn't it ? Even Thatcher properly funded the NHS​@themk4982

[@KB-bf2io]

Why 2 billion for the Ukraine war, when we don't have money for NHS. In my opinion it's utter madness.

[@jmcc2275]

Down a black hole.

[@Christinebanks11]

Because people in Ukraine are more important

[@jmcc2275]

That money is ensured for as long as it takes….£3b a year I think.

[@jmcc2275]

@@ChrisViking-k1qbecause the whole thing is none of his business.

[@fuksmkoud6716]

Ukraine looses? Putin expands. Bad for us.

[@The_History_Simp]

NHS - No money for you unless you modernise. Trains - Here's some extra money lads, don't worry about improving anything.

[@Watermeloncatendorser]

You forgot the fresh of the boat too

[@Steven-vo4ee]

@@Watermeloncatendorser Who receive £8.86 per week and if the Tories hadn't caused the backlog grow exponentially in-order to use it as a wedge issue, the housing costs would be vastly reduced too.

[@Watermeloncatendorser]

@@Steven-vo4ee typical labour voter enjoy not being able to smoke with your pint 😘

[@Steven-vo4ee]

Misrepresentation of the issue, rail *and* NHS workers as individuals have had pay settlements, however neither system themselves have received additional funding.

[@Watermeloncatendorser]

Steven find me who asked please ?

[@pionelpessi707]

He says while giving £600 million in foreign aid to Ukraine as well as freezing pensioners.

[@kqiesaw.9385]

How are you supposed to fund your medical bills with Storm Shadows and Challengers? I agree, we need to defund the military. - Your local KGB agent.

[@TimComley]

Seconded

[@Steven-vo4ee]

OK Pootie poot bot.

[@jawadarif5676]

You do know it only applies to rich pensioner like boris dad or the once that immigrant to spain

[@nickclague3942]

Honestly why does everyone keep going on about the pensioners. The pensioners that will be affected are the boomers who have the money as assets that the younger generations have no chance of having. The poor pensioners won’t be affected by the changes.

[@robertcalleja2348]

Imagine if we acted like this at work you would be sacked

[@_Tony.Montana]

That Labour leader has to resign.

[@Steven-vo4ee]

Starmer will be PM for a decade plus.

[@fredmercury1314]

@@Steven-vo4ee Oh, I expect he'll give himself a much more impressive title before starting his 100 year Communist regime.

[@paulchambers6537]

​No he wont

[@10a17a]

@@Steven-vo4eehahaha no he won’t

[@10a17a]

@@Steven-vo4eenot even possible pea brain

[@velmacooper6681]

Go ahead - privatise. It's worked so well for the railways, the Postal service , the Water companies, the Gas and Electric etc., etc.

[@fredmercury1314]

Has it not?

[@cw8867]

Privatisation isnt inherently bad. Its Privatisation without accountability that is! Think, if the train service is privatised then how come the government are in charge of their pay? If these companies were held responsible for their failures they wouldn't be so bad. But no, they just spend spend spend then get the government to give them money... How is that privatised?

[@nighttrain1236]

Or British Leyland?

[@A67255]

Thames water , now there is a gem of privatisation…not.

[@splinter1055]

They never privatise, they give kick backs to the mp scammers and they turn a blind eye to the inefficiency and waste.

[@CyberProductions-r2h]

The winter fuel money went to the ukraine to fund weapons

[@FingersniffingGynaecologist]

Nah we have a good defence budget really, that money went on buying Mercedes for the Islamic invaders and African witchdoctors

[@Izaz21]

And NHS money going to israel. Be ready to sell your properties.....

[@Foxy57237]

Yes in a war they have already lost .

[@adrikhankant6170]

Why is this guy allowed in Labour party when is worst than a Tory?

[@bereal6590]

Dumbo

[@samaspic7846]

@@ChrisPatrick-q6k they're right wing degenerates and blame the Labour government for everything the Tories did and are trying to undo

[@richardparmenter188]

Are you being serious???

[@thegamer-xd6uw]

@@ChrisPatrick-q6kand is it running sustainably?

[@aleccap5946]

This is what labour supporters wanted

[@BrianKnight-m6o]

Stop paying immigrants put the money in our nhs

[@davidjohnson5635]

We paid our way here and we don’t get access to benefits/public funds. You’re complaining about refugees

[@Air7Rhythms]

Is this guy trying to make himself more unlikeable or something?

[@ernsailor9041]

He doesn't care his entire career has been punishing as many people as he can, he hates us to an absurd level. Davos and the wef are his home he can't stand the British people.

[@Sage-Em]

He's just showing you his inner villain.

[@homgurung6254]

Money goes Ukraine.

[@ravenmad9225]

Holding the British public's health to ransom. Blackmail.

[@motab9981]

Corruption needs to be stopped in the UK within politicians and local councils. I don’t think people realise how much the government gets ripped off when buying literally anything. The trustee’s of our tax money want to give government contracts to his friends and family…

[@selfless6654]

Cancel all the contracts of private companies in nhs , put a team of chief doctors and investigate in 3 months fully where all the money went to pvt companies and here after the govt needs to buy medicenses countries like india , Indonesia where big pharma companies are there , order from them give tax break for amazon and FedEx, dhl tell them to deliver all the stocks to central warehouse, this may help to bring back the nhs back in track

[@jacquityler2803]

If only

[@TheStarBlack]

Sadly what is going to happen is the exact opposite. They will put private businesses in charge of assessing and suggesting changes. Guess what solution they'll choose!

[@jojojo8835]

‘Cut out the middle-men’ would free up a helluva lot of money across all public services

[@susansaxon4780]

Yes, 4 senna tablets in Asda 40p cost to the nhs £2.60 ….via NHS supply chain…..the government need to stop these companies ripping of the NHS

[@aafiaturkey6748]

Never will happen They are bribed by private US companies

[@paulnailor6723]

JIM WILL FIX IT.

[@stuarthall2523]

😂😂

😂😂😂 He definitely fixed it to Savile!

[@michaelbritain5546]

Starmer let that t₩@t off too

[@KathrynBurkhill]

How ????? The country is bulging at the seams , but hey we are not allowed to talk about that particular problem .

[@TheStarBlack]

Countries don't work like that. Population is forecast to reduce a lot over the next generations as people aren't having enough kids. But you keep on parroting the rightwing talking points. Free speech and all that.

[@chrishateley5582]

"No more money for NHS without reform." There you go, folks, Two Tier said it himself; vote reform.

[@philipcovell3272]

For many years Mr Starmer has said that the NHS has been under funded, but now in government he says that the NHS has plenty of money.

[@michaelbritain5546]

As an NHS employee I can say it's not underfunded, but higher management don't know how to run a business they've never had to, they spend Millions to save Thousands, and that's why it's always short of money.

[@chrisroberts5668]

Our NHS is the envy of the world, but every government wants to mess with it, you have been elected to make our country a better place to live, PM do your job, and stop blaming previous governments, your in charge now, the job you wanted the people to give you, it's yours, sort it out then.

[@tabularasa7775]

​@@michaelbritain5546Exactly . Useless with other peoples money . Also the NHS costs 7 billion a year just from law suits for negligence .

[@tabularasa7775]

​@@michaelbritain5546The NHS needs more people with proven track records of business acumen and running their own businesses successfully with their own money .

[@Dhhcnkk]

Traitor starmer

[@undercrackers56]

Simple! Stop NHS tourism. Enforce payment of private care. Cut out nepotism in administration. Start promoting simple health measures to the public such as loosing weight, drinking water, avoiding sugar drinks and getting some kind of exercise. Also aim to cure patients instead of treating them with pharmaceuticals. The NHS is a British treasure and I don't want to loose it.

[@benmarley3086]

If hospitals and pharmacies actually cured their patients, they would go bankrupt.

[@bping123]

Too much sense in your words…

[@fredmercury1314]

@@benmarley3086 Because people don't get born and get ill. _There will always be a market for servicing the needs of ill people._

[@fredmercury1314]

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. _Millions_ of people get cured of stuff every year.

[@c.s3369]

‼️

[@tankspeed]

Any chance of raising taxes on billionaires or implementing a windfall tax against the obscene profits of mega corporations ??

[@mfh848]

The unions will decide if the NHS is reformed not Starmer. Furthermore he won't get 10 yrs, he's a 1 term government.

[@hannahdyson7129]

Yeah, the Torys get back in and finish off the NHS

[@mfh848]

​@@hannahdyson7129hopefully

[@fredmercury1314]

No they won't.

[@chazwyman]

He has sold the soul of the Labout party for just 34% of the votes. WHilst he has a landslide his popularity is paperthin. I doubt he will go full term.

[@OrangeLemon-o8q]

NHS top management is too focused on appeasing the Woke, and spending huge sums on employing the Woke in the NHS, often rejecting the more competent normal candidates.

[@Steven-vo4ee]

A full house on fruitcake buzzword bingo

[@thebackup2121]

Thanks ableist

[@thebackup2121]

​@Steven-vo4ee Thank you for your response though it made my Friday 😂💙

[@TheStarBlack]

If normal is anything like you then I'll take the woke doctors and nurses every time!

[@michaelbritain5546]

If my Manager had to run a business we'd be bankrupt within a Month, the money absolutely WASTED every day by NHS higher management is staggering...

[@margaretgreenwood4243]

Simple. Anyone coming into the country who is not a British citizen should pay for treatment as they did in the old days

[@davidjohnson5635]

We pay £1100/year/person UPFRONT for access to the NHS. Also we still have our taxes pulled for NHS just like you jolly lot.

[@margaretgreenwood4243]

@@davidjohnson5635 Who is We?

[@howareyou857]

@margaretgreenwood4243 British citizens do pay. Blame the Tories for creating massive back logs in Asylum administration

[@shallomn4746]

​@@margaretgreenwood4243every person on a visa.

[@peterpie4732]

Those people are the ones who are working for the Nhs . If they say, they don't want to work for the nhs ..guess what it will collapse.

[@BMack-p9s]

The NHS is already dead. I gave up using it years ago because I don't have the fight in me to get an appointment, and for what? What help do you actually get? Took them 7 months to diagnose my friend's broken shoulder, it was 6 months before they even let her see a doctor, instead, she was sent straight to in-house physio in the surgery which made it worse. There is no such thing as an NHS dentist either, that went a decade ago now. I would rather die in pain at home than stay in a hospital these days.

[@adamdoeslife]

Why dont you start by stopping the influx of people coming in with nothing to offer the UK rather than constantly asking british citizens to burden the cost in some shape or form.

[@JohnEvans-ue3re]

Stammer needs to listen too the british public. Stop all imigrants

[@me-cu7ds]

Cant.......Yvette Cooper said she will deport 10000 before end of year.....on arrival, we have little or no idea where they came from as all ID is got rid of....so, where do we deport them to and if we actually know will they be allowed back as we allow criminals in from countries who won't want them back.

[@TheStarBlack]

I'm white British and I like immigrants. So do my friends, family and most of my colleagues. Don't pretend to speak for the majority. You are a minority and always will be.

[@clivewalker5465]

Problem is , the way Starmer spells reform is , Privatisation .

[@TheStarBlack]

Exactly. He's going to do what even Thatcher and every other Tory ghoul over the last 40 years couldn't achieve. This has all been planned and agreed behind the scenes. It's all just far too convenient.

[@u-two]

I dont get it, how UK can afford to send billions on aids abroad and they can afford to back up NHS, january this year i was 2 weeks on hospital due to my disabled I waited 14hrs to see by Doctor, crazy

[@ambientsounds1416]

No, you don't get it. It's billions IN form of aid. Not on aids...😂😂

[@Jokerjaxs]

@@ambientsounds1416No it’s bull 💩 .

[@jenih1684]

Different problem, same answer- stop unlimited immigration!! Use the money on the NHS!

[@RunOfTheHind]

Reform always = further privatisation.

[@user-ug8wx5er1w]

Labour and PFI debt 🤷🏽‍♂️ still paying it off

[@TheStarBlack]

Yep. Starmer is corrupt as they come.

[@carolinehops]

@@user-ug8wx5er1wit was brought here by John major,the Tory party.

[@chrisred3847]

Sounds like blackmail...he knows reform is a threat to him and his ideology

[@clairedyer9764]

This guy starmer should be in jail 😡

[@johncollins3391]

Lack of money is a country in decline,we're just not performing or competeing anymore,its just the blame game year in year out.

[@michaelbritain5546]

Britain since Brexit is now the 4th largest exporter on the planet, the city of London turns over 5 times as much money per annum as the entire EU, money isn't the problem, paying for people who shouldn't be here is.

[@carolinejohnson22]

The NHS must charge people from other countries and stop treating the whole world FREE.

[@ab8865]

Building more and more houses and no schools and hospitals another problem

[@Maggy47]

Only private housing tho

[@wecandothiswarriors]

All by design..They plan t o redrum most with shots and poisonous skies and food. Educate yourself on Satans plans

[@simonspider]

nearly a million new mouths to feed, homed and treat every year is HUGE elephant in the room!

[@jacquityler2803]

No they haven't, since 1997 the Labour Party and the Tories have continued to sell off council​ housing and not replace it with new stock.

[@user-ug8wx5er1w]

@@simonspideryep. And all of the muuuuch more reliant on the government for hand outs.

[@Bungle-UK]

The NHS in Wales is just as bad….and Labour have run it for 20 years 🤷‍♂️

[@lervish1966]

The people are the problem not the politicians.

[@roops2939]

​@lervish1966 do you suspect that your politicians are also people?

[@lervish1966]

@@roops2939 Are you overweight?

[@Steven-vo4ee]

With central government funding levels

[@lervish1966]

@@Steven-vo4ee It is overfunded.

[@decoyfox]

What party is Starmer from again?

[@KnightmareUSA]

He is a human rights lawyer who delved into trotskyism socialism in his younger days, but he wants the new version of labour to be conservative, centre right and appeal to business, focusing on growth. He also supported brexit in that he sees no way back from it. One big issue is that the tabloid media are still very much in the hands of the conservative party, so it may do him no good at least regarding public popularity

[@FredScuttle456]

Uniparty. He attended training sessions in East Germany as a student.

[@FredScuttle456]

@@KnightmareUSA Sheep.

[@EarthWatcher736]

Operation gladio party.

[@fredmercury1314]

@@KnightmareUSA There is _nothing_ centre-right about Labour. And the only way back from Brexit is a second referendum. And even then, and EU deal we get will be awful after we go back to them, cap in hand. Which means _there is no way back._

[@Changingtimes2024]

Something tells me we have to look after ourselves and others around us with some illnesses , symptoms together forever. Take care everyone

[@bc8251]

Starmer the Harmer has just deleted the first thing on his manifesto - bringing down the NHS waiting list. UK is heading for a recession - 2 months of no economic growth rate and the budget speech with a rise in Taxes we are going nowhere. Starmer will do nothing for the UK

[@Lemoncake34567]

You’re right starmer, the country needs REFORM! NOT LABOUR!

[@richardhillier1593]

Yet you can find 600 million for the Ukraine crisis

[@sandor4989]

600 milions it means nothng my friend ... in uk are living 80 mil people ... if 80 mil people pays 1£/month ,that means 960 million/year . So i am happy to pay 12£ /year for help the ucrainian people who are in a real war and their fighting to live and win the war .

[@oweng7987]

Could start by not importing over 1 million new NHS users every year who have no history of contributing into the system.

[@3D_Printing]

PRIVATE HEALTH for YOUR MONEY after paying a TON of Tax

[@Swissbluemountain]

What a lies ! For immigrants , for wars , for fantastic salary he have money !!!! But for basics hospital treatment people who pay taxes he don’t have money !!!!! Who voted for him ???????????? Kick him out !!!!!

[@norman7527]

What reform is he talking about? Maybe sell off everything so private insurance companies can do what their used to doing in the US.

[@MrBoboiscool]

Considering wes streeting is lobbied by said people I would say its likely.

[@TheStarBlack]

It's definitely what they're up to. We need to stop them.

[@KPatel-d9j]

£ 600,000,000 fund for Ukraine war continuation. But penalise Pensioners & NHS.

[@SIGSEGV1337]

so what i'm hearing is the UK is in crisis and we should get out while we can?

[@alexander777-n3s]

Yes absolutely

[@MichaelCharalambous-n4u]

Sow is ok to send billions to Ukraine but we don’t have money for our NHS 😡😡😡😡

[@annriley4106]

What starmer doing now picking on NHS now

[@user-ug8wx5er1w]

Will be the family homes and inheritance next.

[@1991maz]

What about the Military?! Or funding Wars? Spending Billions.

[@ipohtennischannel5482]

I'm not a politician. Nor am I an accountant. But I think the government should get rid of the 800 diversity and inclusion jobs in the NHS. This would bring many substantial benefits. Firstly, in the health system at least, it would end routine and systematic racial discrimination against the native population. It would save about £40,000,000 per year, and this money could be more wisely spent on providing efficient medical services. Stop wasting the public's money on woke nonsense.

[@amirraza7706]

Why not stop funding Ukraine? Much better idea than your insignificant propaganda

[@tl464]

£40 million is absolutely nothing in the grand sceme of things, barely a tenth of whats needed to build a new hospital AND that money woulnt be there to immediately be put to use so no

[@MsMivvi]

@@tl464 Every little helps, DEI jobs are just the tip of a very wasteful iceberg.

[@ipohtennischannel5482]

@@tl464 I'm fairly certain the great majority of people employed by the NHS diversity and inclusion industry can themselves claim some sort of 'minority' status. They will therefore be first in line for alternative employment within the NHS. It would be far less socially divisive if they were employed in more useful roles, like cleaning services or whatever.

[@hannahdyson7129]

​@@ipohtennischannel5482Based on yout quotation s on Minority I detected a lot of scorn towards those people

[@hughmuir3063]

If Starmer can be strict with the NHS why can he not do the same with train drivers or any other public sector group ?

[@paulriley6418]

But there's another 66million for Ukraine!!

[@50_Pence]

But the commies are coming 😂

[@Steven-vo4ee]

OK Pootie poot bot.

[@50_Pence]

@@Steven-vo4ee get out on the front line and help.

[@amirraza7706]

No no no …. It’s close to £1 billion !!

[@amirraza7706]

@@Steven-vo4eego and fight for Zelenskyy and pay higher utility bills 😂

[@KhrystynaBraverman]

He is Mad….🤪

[@lervish1966]

Are you overweight?

[@jockstrappery]

Wes Streeting is already talking to Milburn (who lobbys for private health firms since leaving government) and wants to learn how to also get to be a millionaire by 'consulting' for the private sector . get ready for outsourcing as the money is ready. Btw, Milburn is NOT a minister but has ministerial access via his puppy dog Wes.

[@JJ-tb9cq]

Stop giving our money away to other countries and put it in the NHS

[@ataboyboyboy8895]

He does not know what he is talking about. Yes NHS needs reform as it is incompetent and wasteful and too many manager and too many frauds and not enough locals with high standards we used to have, unqualified and assessed. Standard is very low. Too many managers for the wrong reason. I give up on nhs. What Starmer means is that there aren’t enough foreign workers and lgbtq in NHS.

[@carolinehops]

He’s going to change it into a big tech..the computer will see u..next.

[@matthewkilner]

"Just increase productivity. " That's a shame. We were actually hoping to decrease productivity. What a fucking genius.

[@ab8865]

People will get a shock if it goes private because it will be worse 😂😂

[@Steven-vo4ee]

It won't, at least not under a Labour government.

[@shaunhall5391]

​@@Steven-vo4eeput the crack pipe down please it's dulling your sense's

[@u-two]

soon they will copy past USA plan in NHS , so we all need to pay lot of money for halthe insurance

[@minui8758]

@@shaunhall5391I’d like to hope that if we did move to insurance Labour ensure it was the French or Italian model rather than the US one. I’m almost certain the Tory Party would go the US route

[@thepositivenihilist8400]

@@u-two Well we all currently pay a lot of money for the NHS. At least in a private system it’s not exploited by health tourists and you can see a medical professional in good time. You simply can’t sustain a public system when so many don’t pay into it. It’s doomed in the current climate. 🤷‍♀️

[@carolhornett9605]

The nhs has been in constant state of reform since the 1980s. The staff are exhausted by it.The major problems are chronic long term lack of investment a nd misuse by the public. All missed appointments should be charged and people that attend inappropriately should be turned away.I worked in the nhs from 1978 and the number of hospitals have gone down as the population has gone up-to-date it is obvious this crisis would happen eventually. Paying for a report that highlights problems but suggests no solutions is another example of waste in the system.

[@bouldy2]

instead of increasing a a service that is struggling for example extra bed for people before that need abit more care before going home... to free up hospital beds. They hire a private company to do it... Who then wants to make there margin increasing the actual cost to the NHS... WTF are they thinking...

[@giakolou2876]

The problem is, the doctors the gps aren’t real doctors. You go to them with a problem they blow you off, telling you you’re stressed or tired and to try yoga, walking, drinking water, and ibuprofen. You have to keep going to the doctor over and over again for them to take you seriously. To get referred to specialist, for tonsillectomy, it says in official nhs guidelines that u have to present to doctor with tonsillitis at least 7x a year for 3 years. 🤯🤯🤯🤯 Doctor can’t refer you for tonsillectomy otherwise. Imagine the number of gp appointments wasted, the money and the time. It would be cheaper overall to get tonsillectomy done after 3rd or 4th case. Same is with other conditions. Go to any forum of people with chronic illness and see how they are treated and mismanaged by this system. GPS have no autonomy. On the other hand the number of obese and overweight people is record high this is causing huge issue on cardiovascular disease and diabetes services. Where care is needed it is neglected and withheld. And in other areas it is abused.

[@robertcalleja2348]

So if it does go private then i wont have to pay national insurance anymore

[@TheStarBlack]

Would you rather pay a bill every time you need medical attention or medication. Do you realise how horrific it is in the US for this?

[@Wtfisahandle344]

Even starmer says vote reform

[@donaldtchaps1686]

This will be the wose pm uk never had

[@michaelbritain5546]

He was from day one

[@ThePerfectMr]

Where have these 1000 gps left unemployed by the last government come from without more money? the boats? Why do politicians have such disdain for the working class and think theyre all thick

[@HypocrisyLaidBare]

None of this is overloaded services is it? None of this is caused by spending money on vaccines for flu for school kids who are healthy? None of this is because private contracts is it? None of this is NHS paying private healthcare I.e. BUPA to take patients is it? None of this is down to over involving NHS in everyday lifestyle nannying is it? All this is money wasted and not focusing on what the NHS should be doing, offering basic healthcare not doing ingrowing toe nails, diagnosing ADHD, and employing managers of managers of managers. The NHS is invested in year after year, but it's government that direct the NHS and they have and will continue the private investment contracts like AstraZeneca and the school flu vaccines lining the pockets of AZUK (AstraZeneca) share holders. The coffers of AstraZeneca have more than doubled in 6 years from £5b to £12b today. That is the private contract to sell flu vaccines to the NHS for our kids that don't need them. That is where the money has gone

[@helenfitch6590]

Too late to give a vaccine once they're ill. It's called a preventative measure, so they don't end up with secondary illnesses, which means they need hospitalisation.

[@sundayboss3062]

Why give our money to countries that don't even speak English like Ukraine and Israel while citizens of the UK are suffering. This unacceptable.

[@archimedesbird3439]

The latter country actively antagonizes and displaces masses westwards, too Literally paying for poison

[@stephenHolloway88]

Charge migrants and immigrants for healthcare. You shouldn't get anything free in this country unless you are a British born citizen or have lived and worked here for at least 5 years. The same should apply to benefits. British citizens are suffering now because of foreigners.

[@davidjohnson5635]

We already are. We have to pay £1100/year/person UPFRONT to move here. Also migrants is just the short form of the word immigrant. You guys really do need us.

[@davidjohnson5635]

Also we don’t get benefits until we pay an additional £3000/person after being here for five years.

[@hanselmansell7555]

Mate, it's not that simple. It's not immigrants that are killing the NHS, they're practically running it. It's decades of tax give aways to the wealthy that's starved it of cash.

[@jacquimchugh4486]

​@davidjohnson5635 you are what we term legal immigrants, I think what others commenting on are the illegal boat immigrants

[@moonie-zw5by]

He reminds me of Blair. Speaks socialism but will act extreme Tory.

[@adamdoeslife]

Or maybe dont bring millions of people in to the country who intended to sit on welfare. Too many people using the NHS is the real issue. Yep the British citizen will now be affected. Great work government.

[@chazwyman]

Those people work harder, pay their taxes, and cause less crime. DO not panic - you have been lied to, you are in a cult.

[@kane951]

Where is all this money they want for reform coming from???

[@TheStarBlack]

He's talking about privatisation. That doesn't cost anything up front but will cost the people an unfathomable price over the coming generations.

[@sandor4989]

@@TheStarBlack its a great idea ...cause now everybody benefits from social care and its not fair . i pay taxes for my whole life ,and lets say after 20 years i need a surgery ... i dont want to wait 6 months to get it ,cause are some people in front of me who never pay any taxes ,they are homeless or on socials .. so lets privatize the health care , like the dental clinics ... who are paying taxes and its insured will get help , and who are not, thats it ..

[@bertrandrussell894]

The 15 + million a day hosing people who entered the country illegally might be better spent caring for the people who fund the care?

[@ab8865]

The tories have wrecked the nhs

[@bereal6590]

Truth and it was deliberatem blood on their damn hands!

[@andrewbarrett2685]

Are you a comedian.

[@hannahdyson7129]

​@@andrewbarrett2685They are right

[@viv8117]

He’s got one thing right REFORM 🤣🤣🤣

[@steveoutdoorsuk1788]

Instead of spending money on the NHS, why not use that money along with the money that the pensioners will not be getting now and put all of that money towards getting more immigrants over hear. After all they obviously need a helping hand much more that the British citizens.

[@nnamdiokeke7547]

www.gov.uk/healthcare-immigration-application

[@bereal6590]

Stfu about migrants

[@hayleyanna2625]

Your ignorance is astonishing. Please read a goddam book and look around..

[@Beyond_Belief534]

When it says "die", it means you

[@leehogg4624]

What is the cause of the troubles for the NHS ?? Lack of funding or 10 million extra people in the last 20 years ??

[@TheStarBlack]

10 million people who work and pay taxes which fund our public services.

[@leehogg4624]

@@TheStarBlack whether they work or not that's a requirement for hospitals, schools and infrastructure for 10 million people too. The only way to pay for that is more government debt, which working and middle class people pay. How many women of that 10 million work ? Many are busy having children so don't talk rubbish.

[@sandor4989]

@@leehogg4624 i agree with you . i think 70% of all problems comes from the people ,cause they dont care about their health , they smoking , drinking alcool , big amount of sugar foods , fast food etc ,if you are realy care about your health ,to avoid the hospitals, you should eat and drink healthy stuff and do some sport ,its very simple .

[@Codename-b3x]

Reform or die? Who tf does he thinks he is? Gestapo!

[@keithwallington4966]

how can it with all the extra people comeing into the country

[@howareyou857]

That is not the reason why the NHS has been chronically underfunded for 14 years

[@minui8758]

We’ve got an aging population and many of those pouring in are here to run the NHS and social sector

[@bping123]

Hmm underfunded? Could it be also that demand exceeds supply? That bureaucracy makes things worse? That money is spent on the wrong things? Having worked for the NHS for more than a decade there is enough money to go around. You could cut the NHS budget by 10-20% and still have a good functioning NHS. For example, look at the procurement mess - one hip replacement can vary wildly in different parts of the country. Many other examples of waste to go around…

[@chazwyman]

Those people make the NHS work. They work harder, pay taxes, and cause less crime that the average Brit.

[@howareyou857]

@bping123 of course it is underfunded. In 2010 the NHS was considered a leading light in the world regarding health care with high levels of patient satisfaction. In a decade Germany has spent 70 billion more than the UK. Stop gaslighting

[@owenmckee4053]

What went wrong? It's not like there is any more of a demand than 20 years ago but we're paying a lot more in tax, and smoking is being banned, so where's the money going?

[@missmag1709]

In their pockets

[@nicolalunt5781]

There are a lot more people using the NHS today. Britain is getting full to the rafters. The more people, the much larger the need. Many many more patients = much more staff needed, also resources, treatment & usage = A massive amount of money needed to run the machine.

[@howareyou857]

​@nicolalunt5781 Britain is not full to the rafters at all. Due to Brexit and fewer births

[@nanochase]

Over the past 20 years the UK has had relatively meager pop growth from 60 to 67 million. The main issue is the building restrictions due to 1947 Town & Country act that make it nearly impossible to build new infrastructure in the UK, so new hospitals don't get built, roads/rail don't get improved/expanded, electrical lines stay the same for decades, telcom lines don't get installed. Keeping everything the same for decades becomes expensive as everything takes increasingly longer to complete, costing more time and more money.

[@howareyou857]

@@nanochase I work in a Victorian seaman's mission. It is literally falling apart with a persistent rodent problem

[@3D_Printing]

Didn't Doctors just get a BIG pay Rise??>?

[@EarthWatcher736]

But 5 billion a year for kiev nazis.

[@OliverShillito]

Indeed. We do need Reform.

[@TheStarBlack]

Reform would privatise the NHS faster than either the tories or Labour. Come on.

[@Jokerjaxs]

Yes we do need reform party .

[@Jokerjaxs]

@@TheStarBlackbull 💩 this is what the Tories and labour want that’s why they have withdrawn money from the NHS for years .

[@robertcalleja2348]

Well its your job to fix it or go if you cant

[@DaveFrags]

NHS… the UK needs reform to survive aswell

[@markbird1965]

Just employ some of those hundreds of free doctors we're picking up the tab for starmer !

[@kayalvizhi7564]

Can you explain please? Which doctors are you picking up the tab for ?

[@ENGLANDCAMS1]

Every London NHS has over 90% foreign patients!

[@symonsmith3497]

Should have voted Reform.

[@Steven-vo4ee]

No thanks

[@hannahdyson7129]

Torys on steroids

[@giakolou2876]

They are liers and cheats using nice words to seduce you deeper into horse dung

[@MARCIAEROBERTS]

Judging by a recent hospital visiting family, the NHS is not on its knees, it's on its nose to the floor with staff lacking the basic empathy and professionalism required to make the whole system work. 😮

[@tabshoura]

Obesity obesity obesity

[@chazwyman]

Fast food. Snacks, Cereals, and poor nutritional advice.

[@jackdelaney3285]

Stop the migrants who have not paid into NHS from getting free treatment until they have paid for at least one year... stop the NHS tourism...make them pay

[@archimedesbird3439]

One year seems reasonable and in line with the fact that legal migrants come in with an education paid for by their own government

[@Celticsamuraiblue]

Joke Tinpot PONCE country 👉🏻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Joke FINISHED UNION 👎🏻🇬🇧 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿☮️🇪🇺

[@lervish1966]

Chrisum

[@jmcc2275]

Back to your PlayStation.

[@Nollauno]

Having worked for the NHS in IT - one thing I can say is that it isnt being run as a business - I came up with various ways in which we could streamline various IT functions. I was ignored - for instance one change to the DSIT figures (which is reported to the government), resulted in a 9 day change to do one change to one of those figures. If, they had adopted my proposal it would have resulted in a 1 day turn around. You can now imagine that I no longer work for the NHS as I became disillusioned with it.

[@001HK0]

Starmer's a Tory? Wow, what a surprise. /s

[@ant7936]

As Comrade Starmer says, we certainly need Reform!

[@byblispersephone2.094]

I don’t think a taxpayer funded health system is viable in this day and age

[@DCDPM]

And a US Version is?

[@byblispersephone2.094]

@@DCDPMit’s better than the NHS, that’s for sure

[@lervish1966]

Most people are lazy and selfish.

[@Steven-vo4ee]

@@byblispersephone2.094 Not on this planet

[@Joey-ct8bm]

@@DCDPM Look at the Dutch and German system. Both have private too, but way better than the US. I'm Dutch and i would still love universal healthcare, but for a private system it's pretty good. It's a mandatory healthcare insurance you can choose yourself, not your employer. That's just modern slavery in the US. Poor people get a social benefit if they can't pay based on their salary/unemployment benefits or get it all if you're homeless. You can opt out on dental if you're don't need it that year. Every year you can choose a new insurance company. Most things are in the insurance for free, but yearly you pay a own risk of 375 Euro's depending on if and what you use it for outside the base package. Don't do the own risk policy. You do get a heart operation for that 375 own risk policy. it's all covered. We hate it here the own risk policy and we didn't used to have it. Some insurances have extended or different base packages where it doesn't affect the own risk. Think more rare preexisting conditions in those. With dental it's now around 250 euro's a month, but used to be cheaper. without around a 120 dollars a month. 15 years ago we pay half of that without the own risk. beware, they will eventually get you with higher prices. We do have a rightwing government Tory like capitalism party in or near the hotseat since 2001. 23 years since a left party had control in my country. Don't worry, somehow left voters like me in my country still get the blame. They will find a way. It's still tax funded, but not much. They fund some of the medicine and regulate medicine prices to keep prices lower. The insurance companies compete to have the lowest price. Denmark and Finland do have universal healthcare and education, but they don't have the debt the UK has. It would be a better thing for my country. My country in Europe is the only country without universal healthcare or education, while being richer than Sweden and Finland in GDP per capita. It's pretty painful as a left voter here. Now we got far right in the coalition too with the most seats. Where you went left, my country went more right. Do not vote Farage! Our far right Wilders now have all kinds of tax rises. Students are absolutely done by this coalition. Sport, schoolbooks education itself, festivals, theater, sport all go up in price. Tax cuts were the promise. 95% is gone of what they promised. Even the NEXIT is gone. They suddenly wanna stay in the EU, but are constantly complaining about it too. Only immigration is left, nothing else. They want to do border checks now. The police is striking in my country because of lack of manpower and customs officers too. Airport Schiphol have been short on those 10 years long. It's because of the left of course, but the last governments were all run by the VVD for 12 years, their coalition partners. We are 9 months in and there were like 5 times i though it would fall. It's been a absolute circus between coalition partners, not even the opposition.

[@bonnieo910]

Yes he’s right we do need Reform in government 🇬🇧🇬🇧💯