Starship to Mars! What Will the Journey of the SpaceX Ship to the Red Planet Be Like?

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[@Firestorm637]

I am 67. I have enjoyed astronomy as a child and adult. I stayed up all night to watch the landing on the moon I hope I live long enough to see first steps on Mars. Right now my son is an airline pilot. His cockpit is very similar to a rocket for earths atmosphere. I am happy with his achievements. I still hope for Mars.

[@slaphappyduplenty2436]

I moved to Canada for three years, and I was not the same person when I returned. I noticed that I had become… three years older.

[@cadenhannon3273]

That’s really scary 😨

[@LisaAnn777]

Lol Canada isn't even a real country.

[@scarecrow236]

You would still be the same person.

[@bishbish9111]

xD

[@Sebastianmaz615]

Stop. 😊

[@demian7567]

I don't think people comprehend the level of damage that the fine dust on mars will do to everything it touches, including your eyes and lungs; let alone equipment

[@manco828]

Don't worry Elon Musk said that we're going to occupy Mars any day now...

[@adriaancanter4573]

Yes dust abrasion is estimated to be quite severe on Mars, you have to dig a cave because of radiation, the list goes on and on. I don't understand why channels like this boost this stuff.

[@Kindertautenleider]

Indeed, a planet full of baby-powder fine irradiated dust, what could go wrong? The moon missions had serious issues with dust too

[@Zeuskabob1]

@@adriaancanter4573 I understand why but I still urge channels like this to try to filter out futurists like Elon who don't understand or appreciate the relentless march of technology. His constant promises for immense technological advancement within a year are enough reason not to take any of his statements seriously. The thing is, despite all the dangers and despite us having no clue how we would realistically build a human presence on Mars, we still want to dream about it. Elon's selling that dream right now, and people are buying it in droves.

[@cinnis5670]

@@Zeuskabob1 PREACH!

[@thehopelesspragmatic6701]

"The first human will be walking on Mars within this decade", I doubt it. There are so many issues between radiation, mental health under small enclosed conditions, and creating a living environment in the most extreme hostile radioactive desert, it's downright ridiculous to think it's going to be solved in 10 years. We been saying "we'll have a man on mars very soon" 30 years ago.

[@andrewreynolds912]

Also your also forgetting we could live underground and such, take a look at the martian government and the people on Mars in the sci fi series the expanse how they live inside of mountains and underground, how they used technology to give Mars it's own magnetic field and atmosphere when they are terraforming yes will take hundreds of years but their doing it because of determination and we humans are good at doing hard things

[@thehopelesspragmatic6701]

@@andrewreynolds912 We can't even remove plastic from our own ocean, we can't stop global warming, a lot of Americans think global warming is a conspiracy theory, do you really believe we're going to airdrop an excavator to Mars to dig tunnels or build Mars it's own magnetic field this century? That's nuts.

[@andrewreynolds912]

@@thehopelesspragmatic6701 you think I'm not aware of that?! Yes I know that it's nuts enough but if we can use the existing caves and such to live their is a good start and nasa has been looking in uses of legged robots like the ones from Boston dynamics so really yes its nuts bit we humans have done many things before and so many massive mega projects and yes its nuts but you have to understand we humans have done hard s*** before and were goof at doing hard things so pretty sure you should study how will be able to live on mars before you say sorry pale.

[@ruud9767]

Yes, this trip will change you. When you travel for six months with a hundred passengers in an airtight spaceship, you'll have to endure a tremendously high concentration of farts and body odour in your atmosphere. My guess is that the first thing that will change permanently is your mood. Like never before you'll know what despair and regret mean, and that a long time before you even arrive on Mars.

[@AshrakAhmed]

This is the reason why every outer space colony Sci-Fi show from Gundam to Expanse, all the colonist seems to be perpetually angry at inhabitants of earth!

[@msytdc1577]

Dear God, imagine if someone smuggles on some Axe body spray.

[@athing8523]

And then the mission fails in a tragedy after months of embarrassment getting there. Really hoping they think things through.

[@DeBanked]

Trying to escape one of Gary's farts? No chance 😂

[@BEZERKSTUDIOS718]

At least they won't have to refuel their methane tanks

[@andyp257]

As much as I'm excited to see the advances that SpaceX are making, I think a 2030 estimate for putting a human on mars is extremely optimistic. I'm more than happy to be proven wrong (in fact I'd be thrilled if I was) but 8 years seems like a laughably short amount of time to go from starship not even having its first orbital flight to taking humans to mars and back.

[@sodalitia]

It's not even likely within this century. Starship is at most a little step forward to get more payload to LEO at once. Human mission to Mars require massive space-station like vessel with artificial gravity and already build radiation insulated infrastructure on the Mars surface. Without prior habitats its a suicide one way mission no sane person would take. To build such infrastructure you need really advanced robotics. Currently with our best technology we can't dig a meter borehole for seismograph without failing and they want to send humans in this stainless steel can? Also regarding landing the spacecraft the size of starship on Mars I really doubt if its doable in 1% of Earths atmosphere. Don't get me started on how they abandoned the idea of legs for now and are quiet about it.

[@michaelphelan423]

My thought exactly. I lived through the Mercury, Gemini, and Apollo era and it seemed like there was a manned mission every other month. Look how long JWST took to finally launch and there were no life-support systems to worry about. I think this whole manned space effort is going no farther than the ISS, unless Musk makes it work. And, like you, I'd love to be proved wrong.

[@dazuk1969]

I agree, the challenge of getting humans to Mars...keeping them safe and ensure their safe passage back if required is insurmountable at this point. Musk will have long departed this world before that happens. But I will say this, he is paving the way for future generations to do so if they wish....it would be a really bad idea but fill ya boots.

[@ImSpun13]

Who said anything about back?

[@dazuk1969]

@@ImSpun13 Me

[@Chris.Davies]

Starship flaps are most definitely NOT to slow down its descent by any significant amount. They are control surfaces designed to maintain the correct orientation throughout re-entry, and to stay on the right glide slope.

[@williambrasky3891]

Then they’re flaperons. First ones I’ve seen on a vehicle whose only re-entry is back into its component parts.

[@penthyn]

At the speeds they will have to deal with they provide a lot of breakikng force. They surely can't slow you to 5km/s like parachute but their ovcerall impact is definitelly not negligible.

[@bernieschiff5919]

@@williambrasky3891 Or Body flaps, I believe this term was used for the movable center flap on the space shuttle

[@xBINARYGODx]

@@nocontent4178 much less than in the mids of muskrats

[@richard--s]

The flaps make sure, that the vehicle is not diving down head on, but is putting as much surface against the air in the atmosphere as possible. Just for landing it must be upright. And it must have enough fuel left to slow down from the airdiver speed to zero. Mars is different, the air density is low, but aerobraking still is a thing. It's free slowing down without fuel. Just some fuel for the end to stop completely.

[@DeggaTheDev]

If that timeline is anything like the cyber truck or the hyper loop, we'll never get there. 🤣

[@maxtoke5557]

💯

[@jefferythomas4414]

You literally just described what is essentially a 6 month long prison sentence in a prison shaped like a spaceship traveling through space, in the most elegant of ways I might add.

[@davecasey4341]

300 years ago humans would climb onto large sailing ships and set out on journeys that would take months to complete. It appears they survived the ordeal and we were able to explore the entire world. People poo-poo the idea of going to Mars with today's tech. But NASA and SpaceX have loads of people a lot smarter than you and I working on the problem of getting there and surviving there. Stop listening to the naysaying losers on KZbin. Most of them can't see past the end of their nose.

[@kinngrimm]

"maybe this is something you do in your lifetime" me looking down at my aging beerbelly ... nope

[@okankyoto]

Keep in mind all the interiors depicted are fan art. The HLS cabin is currently extremely mass-constrained so its unlikely we'll see anything like any of these dreams any time soon.

[@Pleplerhep]

Starship is reusable sure, if you "re use" the scrap left after it has crashed. :P

[@calinculianu]

Sounds like hell. And then when you get there it's an environment harsher than Antarctica. Nope.. you go! :)

[@jmikronis7376]

AND unbridled radiation, which nothing can withstand, it’s a killer. Once it begins, it only builds more devastation. NASA has built spacecraft circuitry specifically designed to be “hardened” against this. It’s gold doped. No human can withstand this damage. All of them will get “cooked”. Sorry. The 6 month trip beyond low earth orbit will present levels never before encountered by astronauts.

[@ROVERLORDD_]

Watch Adam Something's video on Elon Musk and Mars colonisation, its very interesting ! 😇

[@ilivedbeforethefall2330]

I doubt at least early on that our explorers will come back at all. Still people will volunteer. Brave folks. I have a lot of respect for people that are that dedicated.

[@shepardice3775]

I would call it stupidity rather than bravery honestly. At the very least, we need spacecraft built in orbit that have gravity rings. That's simply essential for interplanetary travel. Trying to rush past that engineering challenge by discarding it is asking to predictably kill a lot of people.

[@sfguzmani]

@@shepardice3775 yep those early astrounauts are all stupid..

[@bifrostbeberast3246]

@@shepardice3775 Not everyone can be an opportunistic Karen like you. Some people are just born to be pioneers. With those people you would still be british peasants.

[@stevencoardvenice]

Not brave. Stupid and gullible

[@bifrostbeberast3246]

@@stevencoardvenice Right, I'd recommend you to move back into the caves and practice making fire. Damn those pioneers and dreamers! Stick to hunting mate.

[@daveadams6421]

100 people in a tube for 6 months will be like "Lord of the flies" at the end of the journey 😎

[@adv-rider7368]

I really love the Astrum channel. But this feels so far off base it’s depressing…. Despite what is said in the optimistic scientific community; there will be no humans making it to mars and returning alive if at all. There are SO MANY challenges to overcome to support our bodies making the trip safely. The details of it all are just mind boggling. But hey; Musk got FSD going in 2018, the Tesla Semi and Cyber truck are selling like gangbusters and he has made Twitter a place of truly transformational communication I have no worries at all that he can keep to his promises! Those lecture halls, movie theaters, and restaurants on the trip are gonna be killer for sure! 🤣

[@inspectahgex1910]

Even if you overcome all the challenges of getting the people there, there’s then the challenge of surviving on a hostile planet with barely any atmosphere. I just don’t see it happening without a lot of people dying in the process to see what works and what doesn’t.

[@msytdc1577]

Who needs to survive? The human race has zero problems sending people off to die in wars to defend or conquer resources, to bring back coal from deep within the Earth, to bring up crabs from the ocean bottom, to harvest wood from forests, why the fixation on caring so damn much more for people who's job it is to drive to work in a space craft instead of a tank, mine elevator, fishing vessel, or helicopter?

[@maxtoke5557]

and to top it all off, he's promoting a scam as a sponsor. Astrum has been fooled by the cult of Musk and it really is quite depressing. The guy is one of the biggest scam artists on the planet. :(

[@Bgrosz1]

"There are SO MANY challenges to overcome to support our bodies making the trip safely." Then you do it unsafely. Christopher Columbus' voyage wasn't safe. Lewis and Clarks trek into the west wasn't safe. The great majority of humanity crave safety, but the great explorers throughout history ignore it.

[@Bingiisyaboi29]

Woooooo🎉🎉🎉 another astrum video

[@happyhappyjoyjoy6563]

these renderings are the closest musk is ever going to get to mars...

[@maxtoke5557]

💯

[@gregoryanto3673]

But but but the astrum video says It's not science fiction anymore and 8 years from now we'll likely have 100s of people going to Mars coz Elon Musk showed us the renderings of how it is all going to happen.

[@happyhappyjoyjoy6563]

oh and star link.. he also launches satellites.. but thats not new

[@annoyingcommentator1582]

I hope he has consider that problem solving skills go DOWN in groups of over ~12 people. We never had a spaceship crew that large. They might have to train together like a military unit first.

[@jefffinkbonner9551]

There would definitely have to be a rank and command/ governance system in place. Just being a bunch of random tourists on a safari bus would absolutely not cut it. Even a physical outburst of frustration could seriously damage critical components of the ship.

[@TheMoneypresident]

There won't be more than 15 per ship.

[@Machiavelli2pc]

Just wait until you see future iterations of spaceships (including future iterations of starships) Elon is already planning starship 2.0 (twice the diameter of starship 1). Elon wants to create star fleet as soon as possible, and that includes bigger ships, more capacity, and obviously command and crew positions per the ships (like in Star Trek). I’m sure further in the future for space tourism, it’ll be a lot different though! Kind of like cruise ships. But that’s a little bit further in the future!

[@larky368]

@@Machiavelli2pc All hail to Lord God Musk.

[@tankourito5419]

@@larky368 Your low level sarcasm is not appreciated

[@soviet9922]

If you think that that rocket will bring humans to mars on this decade, you are on drugs for sure.

[@andrewreynolds912]

Also pretty sure we could do it late this decade but we must colonize the moon to do that as a pit stop for refueling

[@NathanTyph]

As cool as visiting Mars would be, I sure don't trust Elon to take me there

[@msytdc1577]

Cool, just wait for twice your expected life time for someone else to offer the service and you're golden.

[@maxtoke5557]

@@msytdc1577 Think I found a Musk groupie lol

[@msytdc1577]

@@maxtoke5557 Or maybe I think Elon will fail, and it'll take a long ass time for anyone at all to succeed. You don't know me, you don't know my life!

[@juice8._777]

who else

[@juice8._777]

jeff bezos ? 😂

[@somerandomedgyguy1723]

Good lord, I'm as excited as I am scared about the prospects of actually living on mars. It's not something I could possibly experience myself due to various reasons, but I sure am excited to see a human settlement on another planet or other structure in space. That's one thing I, soon 30, hope to be fortunate enough to see.

[@oliviaw.2842]

It's a super exciting prospect, but scientists have a LOT of work to do if we ever want to step foot on Mars. There's a video from Kurzgesagt that talks about the dozen reasons why colonizing Mars is a terrible idea. I slowly put down my imaginary pom-poms after watching it haha. Still, I think human ingenuity is up for the challenge.

[@AndriasTravels]

Don't worry, you won't see it. Focus your attention on Earth.

[@AndriasTravels]

@@oliviaw.2842 Good for you, keep asking questions. See also videos from Common Sense Skeptic, Thunderf00t, and Adam Something. Its not that hard to see how ridiculous the whole concept is. Even NASA is just bowing to public pressure, hinting a crewed Mars mission for the 2030's.

[@PainterVierax]

The most important question is : what is the point of colonizing Mars? Except being the first of the PRC/USA new space race to humanly land on it there is no point. Let's focus on the Moon first, as its position as our tidally locked satellite, its better proximity and its lowest gravity makes it valuable for way more applications than the red planet. After the Moon, Ceres or Callisto are better candidates for farther outposts.

[@zachrywd]

Established titles is a scam

[@DaRealKing303]

Can you imagine running out of water and/or food halfway there? Now that's a terrifying thought.

[@stantheman9072]

I bet Matt Damon can.

[@msytdc1577]

Starship has such an overabundance of mass to orbit capacity that to support the number of people that will be on initial flights it can carry enough fuel, water, food, and oxygen supplies for years without any reuse require. There is zero way you run out of inflight peanuts. And that's not mentioning the likely previously landed unmanned Starships loaded only with supplies that would already be at the landing site. It's like saying you're worried about running out of food when you're pushing a shopping cart around a grocery store.

[@SnoopyDoofie]

Or your oxygen machine and the backups fail.

[@msytdc1577]

@@SnoopyDoofie Oxygen tanks aren't really a 'machine', and when you can carry enough oxygen to breath and throw away without any "machine's" required to make sure you have enough, well, makes your concern pretty not valid bro.

[@SnoopyDoofie]

@@msytdc1577 Get educated numnuts. They don't use oxygen tanks.

[@daviniarobbins9298]

A manned trip to Mars is at least a 26 month round trip. 9 months there and 9 months back with a 8 month wait for a window back to Earth. And at the mercy of solar and cosmic radiation for all that time.

[@Bgrosz1]

Yep, super dangerous, but your name will go down in the history books for all time.

[@RevMikeBlack]

Why do the Starship interior views show astronauts working, exercising and interacting in their pressurized space suits? Surely the suits are exchanged for more comfortable clothing at some point in the mission. Right?

[@msytdc1577]

Because they instantly convey 'WE'RE IN SPACE!', and that it's vastly easier to model and render space suits in a realistic way that it is to do so with humans with complicated hair and fabric.

[@maxtoke5557]

@@msytdc1577 Real science doesn't need rendered animations. 3d Renders are the hallmark of vaporware, aka, snake oil, aka, scams.

[@msytdc1577]

@@maxtoke5557 Damn, you're telling me those civil engineers with their 3D renders of bridges and road intersections and construction and stuff were lying to me this whole time?! Whew, thanks for informing me, now I'm armed with knowledge against those scammers!

[@maxtoke5557]

@@msytdc1577 ive seen a few of your comments and i cant get a read on you, very entertaining!

[@BLITZKRIEG1]

What's more intriguing is how these videos manage to change titles.

[@DM_Curtis]

We can build this dream together, standing strong forever, nothing's gonna stop us now.

[@Antares2]

Reality will stop us. This is nonsense.

[@nathanjona]

Radiohead captures that melancholic feel of wonder for space

[@glamdring0007]

These issues with time spent in space are why there are ongoing discussions about inducing a spin in each Starship as it makes the journey to Mars. It's common to see images of a dozen Starships flying in formation towards Mars. A more likely scenario will be a group of widely spaced Starships spinning end over end on their way towards Mars.

[@bernieschiff5919]

Not mentioned yet is that Individual ships will consume a tremendous amount of power for a long trip. Nuclear is really the only real option here. Linking ships together makes sense to share a power source. I think creating an artificial gravity condition by perhaps using several starships linked together might be a desirable option for a 5- or 6-month trip. 3 or 4 ships could share a nuclear power source in the center ship of a pinwheel configuration and provide options for "lifeboats" if evacuation of a ship is needed. Transfers between ships via elevator, might also be possible. These ships could be designed as permanent reusable earth-mars shuttles, with transfers made to high-capacity landing craft at each destination. I think !00 passengers/crew per individual ship is too high, it should probably be no more than 35 or 50.

[@DwayneShaw1]

The only way to effectively create gravity requires a structure at least a dozen miles across - to spin slow enough to mitigate the disorienting effects of centrifugal force - while still producing one G - Humans will never colonize Mars - in fact the only way humans will colonize space is with massive space stations - not bases on planets or moons.

[@kirbymarchbarcena]

I am still waiting for the Vulcans to pass by our system

[@balazsadorjani1263]

4:45 Alex: 'On an airplane, it is often tempting to watch a film, read a book, or go to sleep. However, you can't only do that for 6 whole months' Introverts: 'Hold my shyness'

[@devinodonnell]

I have to admit, the Belter phrase "cacafalota" immediately sprang to mind with the toilet's "you need to be strapped down" warning. 😂

[@hrvojegrgic5111]

This is like being in the prison, but much worse. You can die from many reasons, there is no hospital to help you if you get sick. No walks outside on fresh air, no sunshine, no forests, lakes, rivers, meals also suck...

[@GamerGod-fp1tj]

It’s a risk that some people are willing to take. However, most people would probably look at this, and be like “never mind”

[@Bgrosz1]

If no one is sick when they get on board, there isn't much else from which you could get sick during your trip. Viruses don't float through space and aren't waiting on Mars. Even outside of that, I've never gone to the hospital in my life from being sick. The people selected here would be young and in excellent health which means they would likely shrug off any normal type of sickness pretty easily. Just don't bring any newly caught monkeys from the African jungle along.

[@GamerGod-fp1tj]

@@Bgrosz1 just a warning to you, the last sentence can and will be interpreted in the wrong way by some bozo

[@Bgrosz1]

@@GamerGod-fp1tj You described such people correctly. I can't unbozo bozos so I ignore them. For anyone not understanding the reference, I am talking about bringing Ebola along for the ride. That would certainly be a problem.

[@m4rt_]

fun fact, honey last hundreds, or even thousands of years... we know this because people have found perfectly good honey in tombs from ancient Egypt.

[@Tsathogguah]

Ironically the most advanced spaceship we have looks similar to what they envisioned in the 1930s!

[@anita.b]

this is not the most advanced spaceship we have tho

[@maxtoke5557]

Elon Musk is a plagiarist and scammer at best and the leader of a cult at worst. all of his ideas are copied from other people. Check out the hyperloop lol. It's a rebrand of the original vacuum train concept from the 1930's. This video is a joke lmao

[@juice8._777]

@@anita.b yes, it is.

[@jabrokneetoeknee6448]

We don't "have" the rocket seen in this video yet. SpaceX has only managed to launch prototype models into high altitude test flights, with as of yet zero orbital missions. What we DO have are computer renderings😂 and a long string of promises from a guy whose business model is expressly "over-promise, under-deliver, stonk go up!"

[@downey2294]

@@juice8._777 its a steel tube with rockets attached to it. surely there are more advanced rockets then the ones that crashed in the desert more than half of the time. can't even call it a space ship since it has never even been in space.

[@DomCombatVids]

Artemis by NASA will reach Mars well before SpaceX even performs a manned flight, mark my word

[@maxtoke5557]

💯

[@Bgrosz1]

I also predict a government agency will make a better smartphone than Apple or Google or Samsung, a better EV than Tesla, and a better OS than Microsoft. That's just how things work. Government agencies are amazingly fast and proficient. I mean, look how quickly NASA was able to make a reusable rocket versus how long it took SpaceX. /sarc

[@ariannagarcia8304]

The idea of going to Mars is terrific. The testing of three raptor engines near my hometown was terrible. Broken homes, men in suits measuring business windows and doors, so much debris over public beaches... I want humans to go to space so bad... but once you start learning what it takes... you don't want that in your backyard.

[@raphaelhebert3969]

Hi, do you mind explaining this a bit further please ? I’d be interested to hear about this

[@The_SOB_II]

​@@raphaelhebert3969 I encourage you to go Google it. I'm just saying this cuz there's a good chance you won't get a response from the OP

[@raphaelhebert3969]

@@The_SOB_II I mean, I know that Musk’s methods are more than questionnable but it’d be interesting to hear it directly from someone who experienced them

[@ariannagarcia8304]

@@raphaelhebert3969 Gladly friend. My hometown is Port Isabel, near the Boca Chica launch/test site for SpaceX. When this project was announced this community was jumping for joy, we are after all a humble fishing/farming economic system. Soon we would have rockets and a space city, the future was bright as Venus. Little did we know that homes (in Boca Chica village) were under threat of demolition granted they were "compensated at 3x the market value for their homes". But a plot and an old airstream together at 20k, 3x that value is 60k and I'm sorry but in the 2000s you could not buy much land or a home with that. Many stayed. 10 years later the raptors are free to fly. Many parts of these rockets have had launch failures resulting in more public road closures than Texas allows, interference with the local tribes to practice their ceremonies that are historically near the site, and remember those who didn't sell their homes? The force of the rockets has broken homes, similar to the physical force of hurricanes. A couple of years ago it came out on our local news that men in suits were measuring the glass and doors of businesses at South Padre Island and Port Isabel. Oh and to add insult to injury, local STEM kids of the county got a grant only after SpaceX suffered law suits for breaching regulations and being threatened to shut down. Almost 15 years and our kids got do dime, no science enrichment until this company was almost forced to leave.

[@raphaelhebert3969]

@@ariannagarcia8304 Thanks for sharing ! Really shows how big companies really don't care about people, and I'm a big fan of SpaceX, their engineering work is incredible, but it's just sad that they have so little regard for the people, it could have been a brilliant endeavour for everyone down in Boca Chica and the near by towns. I hope they'll somehow change and that it'll get better ! Cheers

[@wihdinheim0]

Deep space station with a docking module and inflatable sections similar to Bigelow Olympus makes more sense than singular Starship's.

[@benheideveld4617]

9 months of weightlessness is unnecessarily debilitating. Tether two spaceships together and spin them up to get artificial gravity.

[@andrewreynolds912]

Also tethering a few starships could be very dangerous

[@Antares2]

What would the tether be made of? It has to be a material that can hold TWO starships weighing several hundred tons each. I mean, its full mass is over 1300 tons and even though it will burn quite a lot of propellant to leave Earth orbit it will still be massively heavy. Such a tether certainly won't be mass-less. Also you'd need to fasten it somehow without compromising the heat shield. But none of it matters. The "Starship" would cook all its inhabitants with its non-existent radiation shielding long before they ever got debilitated by the lack of gravity.

[@Mr41297]

"All journeys change us" is so profoundly true

[@bekaykelly2708]

I will be very lucky to see the first trip in "this dedade" but I will die happily if I do

[@AnFonE]

As much as it's a suicide mission and probably not fun, I'd happily travel to Mars and have a quick wander around for a few days, investigating whatever needs investigating, and then just finishing myself off in a quick manner when things get problematic.

[@MarsStarcruiser]

Find that nice blue sunset

[@raghu45]

Thank you! 👌🏻. There was nothing "new" in your video, at least not for me, but I totally enjoyed your overall structure of the idea development. At the beginning I felt that I am not the same today even on earth, from what I was yesterday. But reviewing all those extremes you've serialised here, we are indeed not the same, perhaps hour to hour, when in space! 😁. Thx agn.

[@trapevelys1391]

I'm ready!

[@seasong7655]

We won't be the first on Mars. SpaceX has too much of a head start, but we can still strive to be the first on other planets.

[@sarcasmo57]

Pretty exciting.

[@MrLeafeater]

Mr. Musk's schemes remind me of an old punk song, called "One-way Ticket to Pluto". He's not going to "take people to Mars"; he's going to send them. There's no way he'd ever put himself in one of those beer-can bombs; though I would sacrifice much for that to be the case. Note that Mr. Musk, himself, denies almost all of the very real risks you mentioned.

[@sstrick500]

I'm almost certain they'd lose my luggage!

[@brunolima7402]

Why not the Moon first?

[@dabu3]

Maybe the gravity in the moon is way too low? Also, the lunar days are 14 earth-days of sunlight and the lunar nights are 14 earth-days of darkness. Mars still has lower gravity than earth but at least the Martian days are between 24-25 hours, similar to earth

[@blueboi9059]

Nasa's working on getting to the moon, iirc SpaceX is also making a lander for the lunar missions

[@andrewreynolds912]

@@dabu3 no no

[@andrewreynolds912]

@@blueboi9059 exactly plus most scientists and sci fi nerd say we must make a fuel pit stop at the Moon before we onlook to mars

[@andrewreynolds912]

@@dabu3 that's not the real reason why you should look it up before you say that plz

[@frocurl]

Every decade since 1975 they have said we would be on Mars

[@sren.matthiesen9270]

If 100 people go to Mars for a full year, how many would realistically return? My own guess is between 30 and 40 survivors, all with reduced life expectancy due to radiation. If mankind is to experiment with settlers in space, we should stick to the Moon for a decade, to get experience and a better understanding of building, working and living in space and other worlds.

[@netstatmint8639]

uhhh, have you heard of the international space station? I wonder what they have been doing for the past 20 years.....

[@loxachi1291]

The radiation environment on the surface of Mars is about that of the ISS. With the payload capacity that starship brings to the table you can easily bring excavation equipment. Using those to layer habitats with a meter of soil colonist can live on Mars indefinitely with no health detriments due to radiation. Theres been multiple studies and even demonstrations of this aspect of colony building on Mars. The reality is that we know the challenges of living on Mars and a good bit about Human factors of living in space. The rest is a engineering and payload mass problem. Starship solves the payload mass issue and allows some problems to be outright brute forced by the sheer amount of payload and redundancy it can bring to the surface of Mars.

[@Bgrosz1]

They're not sending 100 people on a first attempt (or 2nd, or 3rd...). Every person would require that much more in supplies and thus weight of launch. I would be shocked if it wasn't a very small crew that was sent. Regarding "realistically return", that's pretty close to impossible to calculate. What were the chances of Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin making it back? I have no idea and I doubt they or NASA did either, other than that it appeared doable.

[@nickcollins1528]

The moon has to be developed into a technological hub before Mars is anywhere in sight. They will have to build spacecraft, equipment, and generate fuel on the moon. They will need starships designed for reentry into earth atmosphere and shuttles to and from the moon.

[@loxachi1291]

@@nickcollins1528 Using the moon as a hub for Mars is pointless. Refueling on the moon would grant you an extra 4 Km/s of deltaV. Which is enough extra to get you back off the surface of Mars and into low Martian orbit but not back to Earth. Thats not enough of a DeltaV gain to justify a decade build up of fuel and construction facilities on the moon. Especially considering that you could just set up refueling facilities using the Sabatier process directly on Mars in likely less time that could make enough fuel to go direct back to Earth. It takes the same fuel/DeltaV to get to the moon as it does to Mars; roughly 6 Km/s of DeltaV. Mars has the benefit of allowing Aerobraking as well meaning that more mass can be brought to the surface of Mars with the same vehicle and fuel load. Also the argument of using the Moon to lean how to build things for Mars hold no weight. They are completely different conditions. The soil is vastly different, the heat and temperature are vastly different, the radiation exposure is different, let alone the one having an atmosphere where the other does not. For instance you can use different fuel generation processes on Mars that wouldn't work on the moon, Space suits that work on the moon won't work or at least be sub optimal on Mars, the materials habitats are build of on the moon will be different from what you would use on Mars. The Moon has its own unique benefits to its exploration and exploitation but none of them have any bearing on Mars exploration or colonization. The Moon will be great for building large scale stations and other space infrastructure around itself and Earth.

[@pantheist46n2]

I was thinking of being a strength & conditioning coach on Mars. Would be fun to see people get stronger on Mars than they were on earth. Just need more/heavier barbell plates :)

[@MarsStarcruiser]

Hike up Olympus👍, race to the top

[@marksprague1280]

Learn to exist on Martian atmosphere, and you'll never run short of breath back on Earth. 😁

[@PoeInTheDitch]

"Shortened telomeres" is a little terrifying.

[@msytdc1577]

Hey, not to freak you out, but your telomeres are shortening right now! And now! Oh my goodness, they've been doing that your whole life, AAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

[@PoeInTheDitch]

@@msytdc1577 AAAAAHHHHH! NOOO. Yep. That's kind of the point, considering the theory on telomere shortening and aging/chronic diseases. Though, connections, if any, are not clear...and it's a developing theory. Fair enough. Still, "a little terrifying" to accelerate that shortening.

[@sidogga1234]

This goal gives me hope for humanity. Don’t fail us Elon.

[@the_netherqueen]

I don't think I could stay away from my loved ones for as long as a mission this long-

[@joyadeceren]

I dont think you would ever see them again. It Is a one travel ticket.

[@drunkpaulocosta]

See for me... They'd be half the reason i left lol jk

[@saltycreole2673]

I on the other hand, would go even if I never came back. How many people can say they've been to space? I'd be in a very small population and I'd see the Universe without Earth's atmosphere to sully my view.

[@saltycreole2673]

@@drunkpaulocosta Boy you got that right!

[@HelloHSR]

@@saltycreole2673 I think that half the population would want to go to space. It would be a tight, dangerous market at first. Plus, Elon Musk isn't to be trusted with anything, so I would like to see with my own eyes the safety of a Starship voyage. By that, I mean I would want the colony already established and thriving by the time I got there. Which would probably never happen, much less in my lifetime.

[@hermes1873]

After the news that an asteroid hit mars and formed mountains came out, I wouldn't be as excited to go there

[@Sebastianmaz615]

As far as me going on a 6 month journey, hell no! I'd love to, but all I think of is how toooooo many things can go wrong. And with 50 to 100 ppl crammed in the tin can it would be absolute HELL the second anything serious went wrong, imo. Where are you gonna go? Can't walk out of or away from the spaceship, no air. So I'll stay here. :⁠-⁠)😊

[@lamontcranston8181]

Store the body/ies on board until you arrive on Mars. Then bury with the respect they deserve.

[@Sebastianmaz615]

@@lamontcranston8181 hopefully there's room & formaldehyde. 😊

[@viewu1496]

Can't wait to watch this!

[@martinwulf8253]

I think you’ll find all 6 of Starship’s engines will be used immediately on separation, it will be well and truly high enough for the vacuum optimised engines, and the sea level engines will just be less efficient.

[@wizardnug2449]

You forgot to mention the 5 other star ships that will need to launch to refill your mars bound starship in orbit before leaving.

[@MarsStarcruiser]

I thought that number was 8🤔

[@nilssonakerlund2852]

I think I'll wait for warp drive, thank you very much.

[@andrewreynolds912]

That probably won't happen by scientists estimates by at least a minimum of 700 years

[@andrewreynolds912]

No really that's what some of them actually day

[@10-AMPM-01]

3:11 - Cheap and easy to mass produce... But extremely difficult in structural applications. Welding and forming of stainless steel isn't really "easier" than composites. At least, I can't weld stainless steel, but I can lay carbon composites.

[@jackmorrison8269]

I saw a good vid that estimates 5tons of life support for each person so until nuclear powered only gonna get 10 people in there

[@msytdc1577]

100t / 5t = 20, not 10, c'mon bruh

[@totalermist]

@@msytdc1577 So the people and the equipment they need to bring weigh nothing then? C'mon bro. Unless of course you expect them to basically only have one set of clothes for a 24 month+ trip and no redundancies at all.

[@Allan_aka_RocKITEman]

@Astrum >>> 👍👍

[@jonathanryals9934]

With every moment that passes no one is the same person they were...

[@slaphappyduplenty2436]

One time, this guy handed me a picture of him, he said "Here's a picture of me when I was younger." Every picture is of you when you were younger. "Here's a picture of me when I'm older." "You son-of-a-bitch! How'd you pull that off? Lemme see that camera... What's it look like? "

[@Angel-ih4wo]

I'm not the same person I was 1 movie ago xd

[@Tothro]

That first asseveration will age so well. You can tell.

[@robgoffroad]

I will respectfully wait until (at the very least) cryo-sleep is an option for the trip. I have no desire to deal with that amount of boredom and everything else, for that long. Better yet, y'all have fun... I'll just stay here. :)

[@JessiBear]

With the current state of the World, I'd honestly rather take my chances on Mars. I'd suspect there will be no lack of volunteers for the one way trip.

[@gregoryanto3673]

He does realise that starship isn't going to take 100 people anywhere right?

[@totalermist]

No no, you're misunderstanding - Musk said it could take *200* people! You know, they just need to cuddle up a little, it'll be just fine. Just look at the ISS - they have about 40% the pressurised and inhabitable space Starship allegedly will provide and can easily accommodate 6-8 people for 6 months. So cramming at least 12.5x as many people into at most 2.5x the amount of space (ignoring the boring bits like radiation shelters, additional exercise equipment, toilets, supplies, etc.) ought to be easy, no?

[@gregoryanto3673]

@@totalermist easy peasy.

[@Antares2]

Why not 2000 people? I mean, let's just pull all kinds of numbers out of our .... behinds. This was a crappy video.

[@oliver9465]

Not gonna happen. Starship is a completely useless super expensive stunt

[@averagejoe8255]

200 people packed in like sardines, rehydrated broccoli on the menu. Suddenly, the radiation sensor starts ringing and everyone is ordered to the radiation shelter. Nervous people start passing gas. Dear God! Don’t light a match! What a nightmare. On a separate note, I once ate a bad burrito, and I too was forever changed. 🌯

[@RcsN505]

While billionaires play Total Recall producing tons of greenhouse gases in their exploits (most likely for other billionaires), the rest of us are made to feel guilty about climate change...

[@viewsfrombelow5636]

It will be the greatest achievement for the human race to show we can DO THIS!

[@johnevans6399]

As a child of the moon landings I'm excited about the spacex intentions but as of now these engines haven't lifted 1 foot off the ground. Maybe a little reality may help.

[@Machiavelli2pc]

The engines have. They’ve done multiple starship hover flights and landings. I think you mean reached orbit? NASA and spacex is planning the first orbital flight of starship next month (December 2022). Also, the new raptor 2’s are so efficient that Spacex are now building 1 engine per day. And wanting to build multiple per day! It’s happening a lot faster than you know, trust me! That *is* the reality.

[@williamgreene4834]

Go watch SN15 launch and landing from Star base Texas. It's epic and will prove your comment wrong but in a happy way.

[@johnb8854]

*1st you have to get to Mars, in order to return !*

[@johnnyfavorite1194]

According to Elon Musk, Starship was to be well on its way to the red Planet by now. He promised humans on their way to Mars by 2022, but....

[@Bgrosz1]

I know, right? Such a failure. Can you believe how little he's done with his life? If he takes 10 more years before sending people to Mars, well that is just sad and pathetic.

[@johnnyfavorite1194]

@@Bgrosz1 You think he'll send people to Mars by 2032😂🤣😂🤣 Let's keep the horse in front of the cart and see if his company can safely land people on the moon and return them to Orion by 2025 and then we'll see if Space X can develop Starship to make the 500 million mile, 14month round trip to Mars just seven years after that.

[@Antares2]

He's nothing but a snake oil salesman. If humans ever go to Mars, it will be as part of a national or even international program, and it most likely won't happen on this side of 2040. SpaceX will never land humans there. Most likely they don't even have the technical competence to land unmanned missions on Mars.

[@fumblerooskie]

It's crazy to send people to Mars. Instead, we should be working on technology that allows us to be there virtually using avatars.

[@Anuchan]

The time delay would be too long. The moon, much closer, has a 3 second delay each direction. That means if you take one step, you won't see the results for 6 seconds.

[@daryl4841]

Going to Mars would be hard on physical and mental health, be dangerous and expensive with no guarantee of return, but the same thing was the case with early explorers sailing across the ocean. People got much better at it overtime and we just might see travel to Mars as routine one day if humanity is smart and doesn't ruin ourselves with war, etc.

[@msytdc1577]

I'm sure that will help if a killer asteroid blows up Earth, we'll just hang out on Mars using our avatars, siiiicckkk.

[@fumblerooskie]

@@msytdc1577 Or the Vogons destroy Earth to make way for an intergalactic bypass.

[@acrobizer1238]

Currently when astronauts come back from space, there is a team to aid them since they have to readjust to Earths gravity. In this case it will be many months and how will they readjust to Mars’ gravity without this aid?

[@zennyblades]

This will be hard and people may die, the first ones may have it the hardest. There is no one to help you on Mars except your crewmates. But it is a step humans need to take, and some brave people are going to take them and many of those will have hearts full of hope and optimism. If able, I may go, by then I will probably be an engineer or scientist, as I plan on doing those courses in the near future, and will have something to contribute. The fact this is even something we can do is amazing, all it takes now is doing it.

[@conors4430]

It’s not something we need to do at all.

[@lamontcranston8181]

@@conors4430 well, aren’t you just a little ray of pitch black.

[@bofa722]

@@conors4430 you also don't need to shower, brush your teeth, or have electricity / running water. Yet here you are doing and using all of those 🤔

[@dirremoire]

@Smee Self I don’t want to. I doubt if even one person out of 1000 would even consider doing it, if they were given an honest briefing of the risks involved

[@Bgrosz1]

@@dirremoire I expect it would be less than 1 in 1000, but even if it were 1 in a million, that would still make for 330 Americans ready to take on the risk and the pain. Elon will have his volunteers.

[@9979839]

I am so happy I got you’re channel in my recommendation feed 🎉

[@maxtoke5557]

Sadly, you shouldn't be. Not only is Established Titles apparently a scam, pretty much everything Elon Musk has ever promised is as well. The most recent videos on a channel called "thunderf00t" go in more detail about the history of Elon's many scams.

[@garman1966]

I think a spherical 'work out' chamber used during the trip to and from Mars built into the ship where astronauts could get exercise as well as coordination by using their legs to kick themselves from one side to the other repeatedly would be very beneficial, maybe 20 or more feet in diameter. This would be really fun as well, and you could do flips and twists etc so your feet meet the opposite side perfectly when you get to it. You could even run around the sphere in any direction using centrifugal force continuously. Multiple people could use the chamber at the same time too, doing improvised coordinated movements with each other. I could see astronauts getting addicted to this, and it would be a lot more fun than hours a day pushing resistance weights.

[@terranhealer]

Oh sure let’s just add 20 more feet in diameter like that is easy. Yeah right

[@garman1966]

@@terranhealer They are already making inflatable modules for the International Space Station. I don't think this is that unrealistic to blow up a spherical shape 20 feet in diameter.

[@navret1707]

This really brings to light the old saw ‘You can never go.’

[@seeyee1184]

I think the landing will never be reliable enough unless the landing site is fully prepped

[@fortitudevalance8424]

Different environment will change any human who will traverse it.

[@andrewreynolds912]

Exactly insider did explain how humans who colonized Mars living and dying on Mars and born their in a thousand years their bodies will be different

[@humanperson5134]

How does a starship identify stable, level bedrock upon which to land vertically?

[@aresmars2003]

100 passengers is WAY TOO HIGH for one Starship to Mars. There are HUGE amounts of supplies also needed for a 7 month trip.

[@aresmars2003]

SpaceX should put water tanks on the walls to give more protection against radiation. Sleeping areas should be closest to the center for more protection. Also finding a way to make a centrifuge for artificial gravity would seem important for health.

[@BillBadMule123]

Until Warp drive is developed and I can make it to Mars in just a couple of days I am fine here on Earth LOL

[@maestroaxeman]

I guess short trips to the space station or a few blasts up to fix satellites or whatever has caused blood pressure issues as well as vision problems...& that's anywhere from a few days to a few weeks near Earth. I understand things change depending on every aspect of space travel in comparison to Earth's atmosphere (which or bodies are accustomed to)🤔

[@stevieathome4942]

No Mars travel without artificial gravity, not even a small group of ultra athletic, DNA altered astronauts. The A.G. technology is close! It sure sounds exciting!

[@bigwangmark]

I don't think starship is ever going to be a platform that is going to deliver what was promised. Also even if it ends up flying there is way too many issues around landing for it to ever be a safe platform to trust human life on.

[@ariannagarcia8304]

I have to agree on you, solely on their performance at the Boca Chica site.

[@maxtoke5557]

lol it's cause Elon is a liar and a fraud

[@cat_city2009]

It's an incredibly stupid concept, like everything else Elon Musk comes up with.

[@Bgrosz1]

Was landing on the moon safe, or any of the Apollo missions? Was Christopher Columbus' voyage safe, or Magellan's? Was Lewis and Clark's trek into the west safe? We are turning into a culture that worships safety, and that isn't a good thing.

[@iptg2673]

@@Bgrosz1 "We are turning into a culture that worships safety, and that isn't a good thing." that is by far the most retarded thing I have ever heard a fanboy say, well done.

[@mikedonnarumma5337]

no matter what experience we have in life, we are not the same person after each one of them, mars is no different,

[@whiskeysierra972]

I watched this episode while on my commute to work on the Elon Musk Hyperloop! I can't believe I traveled 500 miles in 30minutes for a $1! Crazy! I had to take the Hyperloop because my Tesla burst into flames in the parking lot and I couldn't buy new one because I sank all my money into doggie coins. That doesn't matter though because I can't wait to go to Mars on the the only rocket that can take you there via the afterlife! To the moon!

[@lost_boy]

The most likely outcome of a journey to mars on starship is a horrific death from radiation exposure.

[@IrisFrn]

I loved this video! Would love to see a follow up on how the colony would be and how would be the daily life of people there 😃

[@PanzerBuyer]

People need to know the stark reality of life on the red planet. Days are like dusk on Earth. Cold. Radiation. Meteorites. Close living conditions, ie you're trapped with everyone inside a little habitat. Long way back to Earth. Personally I'd never go. BUT, the Moon is very close and I believe it will be very popular to take a Starship there for a visit.

[@TheDeityRyan]

You would be a corporate slave living in a small underground box trying not to die

[@AndriasTravels]

Surely you realize this is a bunch of nonsense? Just watch the movies or read some of the many novels on the subject.

[@marksprague1280]

Long periods of utter boredom interspersed with brief periods of sheer terror.

[@Cherb123456]

Wow! Thank you!

[@shindousan]

This decade? Hardly.

[@andrewreynolds912]

Also it's gonna happen sense we are gonna go back to the moon within two years at least we are hoping but most likely 2025 and then use the moon as a pit stop for colonizing mars

[@andreasgotz7537]

I think that the first Humans put their feet in the Year 2110 on Mars. We are not ready yet to get to Mars.

[@MELODYMUNRO]

It would seem to me that finding a way to create artificial gravity for these long space journeys is a must. Even if it was just a small amount, that would/could offset some of the heath challenges.

[@Antares2]

Artificial gravity would be very nice, but we mustn't forget radiation protection... like Musk has.

[@stingingmetal9648]

For years I've been saying that there should be a space station at the mid point. It would accomplish 3 things: 1. Act as a refuge in case of emergency or altered plans. 2. Storage & Logistics 3. Communication relay when the Sun is between Earth and Mars. All these are necessary for a 6 month journey. The idea of sending humans on a space journey in a tin can for 6 months is unrealistic without these components.

[@andrewreynolds912]

Well yes at first until we get nuclear Propulsion also as a sci fi nerd and someone who loves sci fi and understands the big basics of space you should take a pinch of salt space is the next frontier from what Columbus did

[@raphaelhebert3969]

you can’t really put a space station halfway between the Earth and Mars because of orbit mechanics

[@andrewreynolds912]

@@raphaelhebert3969 yes true but not yet sense we could just use Lagrange points

[@Antares2]

Mid point? Uhmm... that's not how orbits work.

[@andrewreynolds912]

@@Antares2 we use little fuel and if we use them are really beneficial I mean dp you know the James web is in one rn