Start-Ups: Don't Outsource Coding

AngelList founder Naval Ravikant offers advice to early-stage companies.

[@vigneshmoorthy6047]

This dude was underated for so long time. Glad that we found him now.

[@nikhil199029]

He never wanted to be famous.

[@satoshinakamoto7253]

Most smart people are not in the public eye. Only stupid people are. Remember that

[@El_Diablo_12]

I looked it up. The idea didn't pan out. Justin went on to work at Tesla, and recently founded a startup around lithium ion battery design. Rebecca went on to work for Asana and now leads a business think tank for them. Don't know about the other two.

[@cocoarecords]

Interesting

[@msg3415]

Anybody watching this in 2020?

[@pk-fi1ok]

me

[@thehari75]

Nah

[@ankitbansal3852]

Yep

[@MrShark731]

2021

[@yourharish]

2021

[@apdhillonbrownmunde22]

When this dude referred to engineers as “coders”, I already knew what was about to happen lmao

[@Designalily]

underrated comment

[@harmonica4ever]

haha look at the 4 non-geeks faces at the end. Now who is laughing? :-)

[@readyplayersid]

this comment aged well

[@user-dj6oi5hw3m]

The girl in white was me and now I just became a feminist activist it's much easier and more lucrative bye

[@bossgd100]

Hahaha

[@hrishika1037]

😂😂

[@xberna8156]

13 years ago, so ahead of his time. Chapeau

[@thehari75]

Naval was like "thanks for the idea guys i g2g now"

[@bossgd100]

Lool

[@bmejia220]

😂😂😂😂

[@AndreMonthy]

2:59 "and hopefully he is covering the cost or subsidising it" No Naval: 💀

[@RahulYadav-nk6wp]

Great wisdom, I now know our startup is going to fail big time 🤔

[@Optimistas777]

Has it?

[@abhinavsharma-xb5bq]

has it?

[@bmejia220]

Haha best of luck!

[@bmejia220]

Hire a product manager

[@DanDraper]

Oi. Naval changed my Life!

[@nobalpreet4950]

How ?

[@mohammadsirajuddin1102]

he is a long term guy so he is underrated for a long time and his fame is compounding . hahha

[@RichardCoward]

they should just pay 2,000 on some programming lessons...

[@missionpupa]

Outsourcing code sounds like the worst idea ever.

[@Sam-rp4hy]

What's with the camera zoom?

[@JamesJansson]

The Office Jim zoom shot.

[@shyama5612]

Wonder how this turned out in 9 years. Is Piccolo or the concept behind it a thing today?

[@fabiokaya202]

@Farmer Pepe is that what we're calling failure these days?

[@fabiokaya202]

@Farmer Pepe this was some entrepreneurship class group. I don't see those guys actually building anything, lol. They got to meet Naval and looked clueless. I would be heavily picking his brain

[@TipsTricksco]

While I can't say anything about the concept of it. These guys certainly didn't really pursue it. All I know is the girl in the group, Rebbecca is a journalist/writer now.

[@fabiokaya202]

@@TipsTricksco lol.

[@jimihendrixx11]

Isn't it like groupon?

[@agookchild]

Once you see Naval's arm go up on the chair like that, he's charging up for his instakill aoe.

[@haydenbrophy9460]

No non-technical founders. Immediately No

[@KRodBabay]

Can anyone help me? I just graduated with an information systems degree and want to learn coding to become a founder in the future. My question is what are the minimum tech foundation skills that I need to be competent in e.g. discreet maths, algorithms and data structures, programming in 2-3languages. Or am I better off going to school, getting a full on degree whilst working? I want to ask because when developing an app or a software prototype, when does the point come where I consider security, hardware and infrastructure requirements? Which is why I wanted to ask about school?

[@KeerthanDiddige]

bro what are you saying? i'm pretty sure you don't need any requirements except a will to persist and learn to become a founder

[@rahulrejeev4393]

It depends what kind of company. Something like a chip company would require a fair amount of knowledge. Something like an app would be different. You really dont need any background knowledge you could probably even learn tech skills as you go. Lets say your making tiktok...there plenty of resources and tools to help build apps quickly and learn, you can algrotithms for the feed and stuff as you go. Its honeslty the best way to learn. If you want to make sure your up to par with skills. Get an idea...any idea...does have to be a million dollar idea...and just get started building it. You will learn a lot...and you will be prepared for when u do get your billion dollar idea.

[@KRodBabay]

@@rahulrejeev4393 thanks, basically if I wanted to start an app, appart from programming languages, what areas would I need to learn to a reasonable level to launch, let's say an app. For instance; algorithms and data structures, distributed networks, database admin etc? P.S. I am in no rush to launch anything, I have recently found an interest in tech and am keen to learn because it's fun and I am curios

[@lordspongebobofhousesquare1616]

@@KRodBabay didn't you learn data structures, algorithms, etc. when you were in school? After all that they usually offer internships and have final projects no? Currently, at what level are you familiar with software development ?

[@KRodBabay]

@@lordspongebobofhousesquare1616 No I didn’t study comp science. Did more Project management, business analysis etc. But I know I’m creative.Currently learning python and will play around and make some small projects. I think eventually I will connect my ideas to coding nd try make something by finding that sweet spot. Will learn some Algortihms and Data structures and some discreet maths, since I did a lotta math in school and frankly it makes my logical thinking work well in terms of coding output, I use less lines and create better programs.

[@PrzemekChojeckiAI]

2020!

[@wahyuagus1530]

thanks naval

[@xyZ-st9ry]

3:48

[@instantsoftware5758]

I would say even tho he his right ... if your a non coding founder dont listen to him. Basicly what he is saying is ... if you're not a coder you cant start a startup. But what he is really saying is from a investor perspective he dose not want to risk investing into a startup without a coder or coding founder on the team. Basicly he is saying i can not profit off of you therefore i am not willing to risk investing ... dont confussed that with you can not start a startup without a coder ... If you realize you dont need investors money you can do .. anything you want to do in life. You dont needs theses people and with that mind set .. you can do anything you want .. and soon ... they will be coming to you mark my words. Arafat Shabazz

[@siddharthdarwade9082]

Right

[@CulturalWorldViews]

Liked and posted

[@subhadippal7889]

Anyone in 2024?

[@kylesaw3306]

hey

[@kab00mKap0w]

Skip to 0:47

[@iamsam87v]

This may have been a thing 10 years ago, today non technical founders are the ones who are building the world. Coding is cool, but building a business around it is way more demanding. Those skills are higher rated than coding. Coding can be done overseas for 1/10th cost.

[@mccall7122]

After working as a software engineer for about 15 years, where I've worked with large enterprises as an employee, a small startup as a technical co-founder, and also started my own startup, I totally disagree with every single thing you said. It's even MORE intense today than what Naval describes in this 10 year old video. And the points he raises about how many cycles you get per day, because YOU are in control of coding, compared to sending something out, get it back, it's wrong, fix it etc, is just very risky, time-consuming, usually yields lower quality products, more bugs, harder to manage, costing you MORE in the end, even if coding overseas is "1/10th of the cost". And where you get "today non technical founders are the ones who are building the world" from is beyond me. We must live on two totally different planets.

[@iamsam87v]

@@mccall7122 I know what you mean cycles per day. It’s cool when building a product - my products have been built and updated to perfection. We run a product update every quarter and it’s done overseas. Been creating products that touch millions of users, all getting built overseas. I built a business case, and a solution. Got it coded and took off.

[@samueln300]

@@iamsam87v good luck. Most non coders seem to forget that code is created by humans and will have bugs. So who will you turn to?

[@neelmoradiya1389]

@@iamsam87v so how's your business

[@iamsam87v]

@@neelmoradiya1389 raised 4.2 on a 18M valuation. Bleeding through to get through to series A in 2025. Btw that’s when we predict the market will be back to good ol’ times. Series A will be 18-20M we project.

[@VGLV888]

✅☑️

[@shaunshaun88]

don't ever do anything dealing with IT stuff. It is always risky. The hackers can really destroy everything. The hackers=competitors

[@blackneos940]

shaun ng 8 years later. Have you become any less paranoid?

[@ahmedt2758]

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[@funnyhomemadefilms4145]

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[@Elian-]

I mean... just check your code ?

[@melvinmathew2409]

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