STARTING as a FALLEN EMPIRE in Stellaris

You've played against many Fallen Empires. But have you ever played AS the Fallen Empire?
This is my first video in a long time, so I'm really excited to know what you think of it! Thank you for all who have stuck with me for all this time!
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro & Rules
01:15 Early exploration
02:53 Worrying discovery
03:20 Prikkiki-Ti
06:38 2nd Invasion
07:09 Reforming the Xenophobes
08:12 Galactic exploration
09:14 Dragon
10:02 Year 2400
10:20 Crisis
12:44 This is the end
14:20 Outro

[@grottoguru6473]

It's kind of fitting that there was a second empire that came before everyone else and you don't like them. It mirrors how a pair of fallen empires can hate eachother in normal games.

[@eggmin8967]

Yeah so basically the first war in heaven that made them fallen

[@Kevin3dp]

Wanted to play as fallen empire. Ended up becoming a precursor event.

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

Genius!

[@themement3616]

Like Baol or the Zronii?

[@Mardols]

This comment made me laugh so hard xD

[@MrBlipman]

It means he got wiped out lol@@themement3616

[@Stargate404]

It’s pretty appropriate you had the Prikki rise up as the War in Heaven was partially between a fanatic purifier empire and a guardian empire. So in a way, you’re recreating the war in heaven

[@alexparjol786]

I can feel the 40k coming inside of me.⚡⚡

[@farresalt4381]

@@alexparjol786 lewd

[@n8ivspat3n56]

@@alexparjol786heresy

[@plaguedoctor5145]

So would he be the old ones and the aeldari or the C'tan and the necrons? I assume the old ones tbh

[@phasesaber5040]

@@plaguedoctor5145 guess so since the old ones came first

[@StarboyXL9]

Reminds me of one of my Dark-Elves-in-space playthroughs. The Scourge was too powerful for me and the galaxy, but I had a completely isolated, starless star system that I Jumped into and built a habitat in. I moved my capital there last minute, along with my final Shroud Avatar to act as a sort of moon for the habitat to provide light. My Dark Elves then waited in the darkness between the stars for two hundred years until they were strong enough to rebuild their armada with better technology and take the galaxy back from the Scourge, system by system, over another two hundred years of war. Then I spent the next two hundred years watching the next generation of primitives discover the hyperdrive, join the Galactic Community, and fill the galaxy with life again. It was such an awesome campaign.

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

Man that sounds epic! I am also impressed that you managed to play for that long because war in Stellaris can seriously burn me out.

[@StarboyXL9]

The coolness of restoring my old, lost empire territory by pushing back the Scourge kept me going, the 200 years of waiting were easy. I just left the game running with tech on auto overnight and while I was at work. The galaxy-cleaning effort was tough yes, but I pushed through it because I knew the primitives were depending on me to give them a chance. It was definitely a campaign for the scrapbook.

[@redomer91]

How were there primitives after the scourge held the galaxy for so long? Don’t they just kill everything?

[@Gabriel-bt1nx]

​@@redomer91after the Rain, the rainbow appears my friend

[@StarboyXL9]

@@redomer91 They don't touch primatives for some odd reason. You would think they'd eat every planet, but apparently not. They only invade the worlds of spacefaring civs. Very strange. They didn't used to be that way tho, I clearly remember primitives getting eaten by the Scourge regularly back around 2.0.

[@CoffeeSuccubus]

Wolf: fanatic pacifism, fallen empire. no war! Prikkiki-Ti: *funny music plays* Hello we are cute purifying lizards who will destroy *EVERYONE* Wolf: *Death is now an option.*

[@Lancefh_ENV]

Prikkiki-Ti: Boa tarde amigo

[@florians9949]

Prikki: We are death, the destroyer of worlds.

[@fluffernal]

i like the idea of the prikki guardians taking down the contingency in honor of the people who helped them see the light.

[@laplace607]

I’m pretty sure that the fallen empires can awaken if those lizards get free

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

Haven’t see that before. But I *have* seen a Fallen Empire’s fleet go on the offensive when they start nearing their borders.

[@barneyrubble4293]

@@TheWolfwiththeDragon Just claim one of their worlds as your holy site, bam instant justification.

[@cringelord7776]

Declaring war on the prikkikiti makes sense because fallen empires will declare war on an empire if they are too genocidal

[@kottadragon]

Honestly, you probably could've kept the Prikki Guardians as a vassal, destroyed a bunch of the outer outposts instead of handing them over, and treated them like a Scion Empire. Would've even been thematic, since you just had a big war to prevent the cleansing of the galaxy.

[@DzinkyDzink]

Come to think of it this looks like a more plausible scenario than usual Stellaris run: 1. Challenged by the dread of the galaxy's emptiness one species chose to become it's gardener another became paranoid with the Dark Forest idea to the point of embracing genocide. 2. Those two species go to war with each other and the good guys win. 3. Dark Forest proves to be true as Contingency activates right after a sufficiently advanced species becomes more active than usual. 4. The galaxy is reset to default by the Contingency - all is right with the universe.

[@killman369547]

I think "existential threats to the galaxy" is a fair exception to the cannot declare wars rule.

[@d3thkn1ghtmcgee74]

"im not going to intervene in galactic affairs" Prikki: "Lets introduce ourselves"

[@shatteredanam3284]

Fantastic content as always May bubbles live on in our memories

[@unknowndane4754]

For the Prikki Guardians, I would probably have attempted to make more sectors (if possible) and then make multiple nations rather than 1 large one.

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

That’s a really good idea. I’m actually surprised I didn’t come up with that myself.

[@unknowndane4754]

@@TheWolfwiththeDragon if you want to fiddle with sectors remember that sectors only connection if the systems are connected so by destroying a few starbases you can control the size of a sector/vassal

[@logannoble6707]

@@unknowndane4754you realise theres a edit sector button where you can choose which systems and planets are in each sector

[@davidthor4405]

"The Finnish names sound ancient." - The Wolf with the Dragon, 2023

[@lucasiano4290]

The most underrated stellaris youtuber is back

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

That is a seriously nice compliment!

[@Nerd_Detective]

Variation: select the Remnant origin for flavor. Delay the crisis starts to give the foundlings a chance to grow. Spawn in *one* advanced start genocidal empire (guarantee it to spawn) as your nemesis somewhere in the galaxy. Your goal is not to destroy them, but rather to thwart their plans. Your role: to shepherd as many primitives as you can before the galaxy is swallowed up by threats, then recede and only involve yourself in galactic affairs as needed when an urgent threat presents itself. No subjugation or vassalization or conquest, no blocking them in, etc. You enlighten each civilization, pull away to give them room to grow, and hope this generation of children will be able to face the threats that loom over them. And if not... only then do you step in to even the field.

[@captshetz]

Sounds like Vorlons vs Shadows from Babylon 5.

[@skeletalobserver406]

Tech/unity rush for mega engineering would be a godsend for a second attempt at this run. Would love to see that

[@noxiousox]

This video was so cool, definitely a goal to edit a stellaris video to at least half of this quality! Maybe next time, you could have the crisis year start way later to allow yourself to have more of that fallen empire scariness! Loved the viddy!

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

Thank you so much for your kind words! Yes, that is a good idea. Thank you for watching!

[@FireDragon-rr2mo]

​@@TheWolfwiththeDragon if you want to do a true fallen empire install zenith of fallen and sandbox and when u get the edict you can become a fallen empire.also love ur content❤.

[@unknowndane4754]

Lovely to see you do a more challenge like run (Also attacking the Prikki is completely valid for the purpose of your run)

[@BullsMahunny]

*Prikkiki-Ti breaks free; slow heavy metal music becoming increasingly furious* Seriously though. A fallen empire run sounds interesting

[@pwryllryn7220]

this is so funny that out of all the events in this massive game, the prikkiki-ti spawned.

[@thealdoc]

sith the scaleless looking race trying to protect the galaxy from a bunch of geckos made me smile

[@src6339]

I think a precurser war against your ideological nemesis would be reflective of the "war in heaven" in the lore, so should be allowed.

[@SpoopyChicken]

Reforming the Prikiki-ti is cannonically how I imagine the "Scion" origin to work.

[@Kaador]

Bro you truly saved hundreds of million primitive souls from the sweet little lizzards. You are a true hero :)

[@haopham3129]

You should use the remnant origin, it really fit the vibe of a fallen empire

[@Tom_Cruise_Missile]

Gigastructural engineering penrose sphere start is my favorite pseudo-fallen empire start. It can be a bit difficult, yes, but when you reach that end point, dear god is it worth it.

[@synthetic240]

I think I would've done a few things differently with the Prikki. I would've released each sector as its own nation and disbanded all the extra outposts. Granted, the main Prikki homeworld would've had the majority of their pops compared to the second nation, but I think I'd prefer they have a bit more competition. Alternatively, you could've brought ALL the Prikki to your worlds, abandoned their space to the actual primitives and reformed them that way (via Governing Ethics attraction). It probably would've been a bit tricky with habitability issues, but it might've worked.

[@exoltik3199]

Really glad the algorithm's started blessing you. Love this content. ❤

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

Thank you! Yeah, I really hope it might stick despite my very slow momentum. Happy you enjoy it!

[@stoneodin2288]

I’m glad I found this video. I’ve been really wanting to do a play through like this but haven’t been able to find much on it. So this video is exactly what I needed.

[@BRDoriginal]

Any time i ramp up primitives and remove other empires, there always ends up being like 3 or 4 who enter the space stage within a like 2 years. It actually kinda annoying

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

Maybe now that we have First Contact there are ways you could speed that up so that more enter the space stage.

[@Waroftheworldsz]

Yeah same here. Usually ends up being one or two powerful empires that enter the space age early then proceed to conquer or uplift the rest into their unified Empire. There's two mods I recommend for that. The mod that allows you to start with an extra-galactic portal, basically allowing you to start as a empire from another galaxy colonizing the current one. Or the playable fallen empires mod if it's still supported.

[@isaacgorski6054]

And that last scientist found a way to escape this dimension. Becoming a legendary paragon of Bubbles. He will return to destroy the Contingency for their crimes

[@slenderminion2229]

Wolf: What if YOU were the Fallen Empire? The Machine Age: Interesting idea...

[@Not_Octopus]

I fully understand why every fallen empire doesn't want ANYTHING to do with the galaxy. I'm 3/4 the way through the video; and dealing with the Prikki and space dragon, and general stress, I would want to mind my own business as well.

[@mifiwi3438]

My favorite Stellaris KZbinr has blessed my saturday

[@AFRorie]

Loving your Stellaris videos, with this one, I've now watched every one. Might do this one too, looked fun

[@ramja9107]

Your content is great. Im surprised you don't get that many views

[@MortSalazar]

I like how only galactical threat forced you to dump pacifism Fitting for a fallen empire i think.

[@thatregularguy]

Very nice video. Remember to always check the estimate arrival time for fleets so they all come at the same time. Alternatively have all you faster fleets follow your slowest.

[@bigego503]

Greatly enjoyed this. Subbed. Looking forward to more. Good vid

[@gregisk123]

This is a super cool idea! Gonna give it a try, too. Thanks for the content!

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

You’re welcome! :)

[@zarzesratize1654]

I love this video! Great vid man

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

Thank you! :)

[@samueltrusik3251]

This entire video is the greatest OOF. Nice.

[@lukaswei4767]

the murder geckos going from xenophobe militarist to xenophile pacifist and back XD holy moly

[@daydayjoeyo]

Would love to see another run like this!

[@florians9949]

Wolf: now time a for nice peacefull start, woth no one being abble to- wait, why do I hear boss music? Prikki: did you miss us?

[@nanosum1]

Your editing is amazing!

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

Thank you so much! :D

[@MRDRK1]

Huh. Never thought of being a 'fallen empire' in this way. Very cool. 👍 Going to try it myself. Thanks!

[@johnthecrazedsskull81]

I would have gone for Remnants or Post-Apocalyptic origins as that they are more thematic with an empire that has fallen. Ring world and life seeded also thematically work as they were they show the power of the fallen empire had while Clone army and void dwellers would have works as roleplaying as surviving remnants of the empire. Mod wise, the Dark Space adds a bunch of origins like Ninates, Vi and phoenix empire which are meant to be great civilisation making a come back.while solarflare is more of a empire that was in contact with a another empire, but it let's you have dark matter from the start..Dark space also allows you to become a fallen empire. Another mod is Planetary Diversity: Unique Worlds which adds a another set of origins that are basically great civilisations making a come back, but less OP as Dark Space. there's also the Gigastructures mod which has more megastructure origins, but I would recommend installing it for the shipwrecks and cool tech.

[@art-games6230]

Really, original, I’m going to try this myself, also, it would have been fun too see you use the prikiki as a vassal, kinda like the scion origin

[@AlphaCore_]

Oh, hi there! Nice to see you back!

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

Thank you! :)

[@obliteron]

This was a really interesting idea. Well done!

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

Thank you! :)

[@JediMasterYoda66]

Another great video! Thanks!

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

Thank you! :)

[@nekochiyu5060]

If you find those geckos, *always* repair the shield. Let those monsters fry

[@ClingyParasite]

Player: "So lets chill and let the world grow, before we blow it up" Prikkiki-ti: "The roof, the roof is on fire!"

[@jacko2660]

Nice to see you are back

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

Thank you! :D

[@davidk1308]

Awesome! You're back :D

[@davidk1308]

Just finished, the Prikkiki-Ti just showing up was really funny. But I thought there would be more pre-FTLs rising up. I personally think out of the 3 Crises' the Contingency is the hardest since they come at the galaxy in 4 different directions.

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

It was a moment of slight panic. Haha. I also thought there would be more. Might have to make a retry. This was a few major patches ago after all. Might be. But my issue was that I had simply not invested into alloys enough. I used to think there was such a thing as too much income, since if your storage is full it just gets wasted. But I know realize that they way to win wars like these is through building new ships faster than they kill yours and *fast*. And for that you want ridiculous alloy income and maybe a Mega-Shipyard. So next time I would have a different strategy prepared. Thank you so much for watching!

[@davidk1308]

@@TheWolfwiththeDragon A retry would be cool. I actually just started a run of my own with the current patch, and I also didn't invest into research and alloys nearly enough because despite every other Empire coming from a pre-FTL, I was still outclassed by half of them (there were actually enough to decently fill a Galactic Community) out of a dozen give or take (I didn't count them). Yeah, resource silos on Starbases are also a good investment, even if you hit your stockpile, it'll take longer to get there.

[@toxicwaste159]

Since the standard difficulty setting does not affect the crisis but does affect AI empires (as well as Space Fauna and Marauders) it might be more fitting to have it set to the one that gives no buffs Although that way they wouldnt catch up to you ig so that might be an issue

[@isaacgorski6054]

You convinced me to finally do what I've been considering for ages. But with some slight changes. I would expand all over the galaxy. Having an insane economy and unlocking all the events while primitives ascend. Eventually i would vassalize all my sectors except my home world or the L Gate cluster. From their i would become a fallen empire and watch what becomes of the galaxy, only awakening for a crisis or fanatic purifier types

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

Damn that sounds cool! If you really wanna sow the crazy, you could release all these vassals and see what sort of paths they take. Like a parent watching their children go and probably make bad decisions.

[@isaacgorski6054]

@@TheWolfwiththeDragon exactly the plan

[@ZACKMAN2007]

I would play as a holy guardian fallen empire just to crusade

[@eiohnanananunu9871]

Why does Bubbles always die no matter the galactic cycle. Like that's just heartbreaking.

[@jackblack940]

“Anomaly discovered” four times in a row 😭

[@xzardas541]

I'm pretty sure there was a mod that lets you play as actual fallen emprie, not sure if it was updated since fall of rome tho. There is aloso realy fun mod that lets you start in L-cluster, so you are completly isolated inside untill you get the gates open, kinda like fallen emprie with a twist.

[@TheoSchattenfang]

i know i'm 6 months late but it's extremely funny to use Italian-esque music in a video about being a fallen empire

[@richardpowell5151]

I think I'll try this.

[@The_HappyHollow]

I havent watched the full video as of this comment, but the whole prikiki-ti thing, you could have kept them as a vassal and mimicked the start where you play as a subsidiary to a fallen empire and helped them grow/see if they ever try to rise up against you (if that is within the games capabilities). That could be fun.

[@Rith9789]

This was a wild ride. But very fun to listen to.

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

Happy you liked it!

[@kya6816]

This looks quite fun concept play gonna try this 😂

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

If you like anomalies, I can recommend it.

[@roguephantom8823]

HES BACK! THE GOAT

[@sephy_yt4446]

First time seeing this game, looks quite fun

[@okupant880]

Wolf: Lets do this, no wars until my empire can rise from its stagnation. *Iron Savior - "Kill or Get Killed" starts playing* Prikkiki-Ti: "Buenos dias fboi" Wolf: "Cowabunga it is"

[@Ackalan]

A tip fighting against most Crisis, use Destroyers with as many boosters as you can, either Hangar or Arc Emitters and have them using the Carrier computer, it'll kite around and widdle down the enemy. Use to the best effect with point defence.

[@gerryw173ify]

I had no idea the Ether Drake would chase you down.

[@JD867]

This, but 25x crisis, extra 100 years on the clock, and you're a necro race.

[@sterthebird1593]

THEY WERE GUARDING THE HITCHHIKERS GUIDE TO THE GALAXY! XD

[@zzpotatoxx]

This actually looks like a really fun way to play Stellaris

[@isuckatusernames4297]

an easy way to deal with the contigency fleets is to spam disruptors as the contigency has a botoriously low amount of hull points compared to everything else.

[@Gustav_Kuriga]

Uhm... are you sure you're not thinking of the Unbidden?

[@isuckatusernames4297]

@@Gustav_Kuriga nah, missiles for unbidden and artillery/kinetics seeing as they have almost only shields. althought disruptirs are always a good option.

[@fatallyfatcat5274]

You repair the shield to keep them in 😂

[@yissnakkjr8230]

How did you keep Pre-FTL civilizations (aside from the prikkiki) from forming? A friend and me are trying to replicate this challenge but new empires form withing 5 years of starting.

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

I think is it very much down to chance. But how fast it happens is apparently also based on their Awareness.

[@jadyriensubrayen1419]

have to say, I enjoyed this

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

Fun to hear! ;)

[@FunkyMonkeyI]

Now the Fallen Empire has truly fallen.

[@drokhalis3338]

Playing pacifist in Stellaris is like bringing a feather to tank warfare.

[@TToxicom]

this was fucking great. just a pity not more primitives rose up ig. id love to see more like this

[@VulpesChama]

Only interact with in the late-game? ZARQLAN! ZARQLAN! ZARQLAN! ZARQLAN! ZARQLAN!

[@millerdiamond708]

space dragon empire ridley would be proud

[@arthurofalsen2110]

Have done something like this before. Very fun and unique

[@michaelbuchanan540]

Should have repaired the shield over the Prikkiki-ti home world

[@Kaador]

And remember: Always (ALWAYS!) repair this fricking shield.

[@mrfelslive]

Never ask Prikki what they did before 2318

[@rainer8137]

Omg I forgot bout u dawg

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

Hehe. I’m still here! ;)

[@andreanecchi5930]

I did not know that you had made a video , youtube did not show me the video wtf , anyway , I hope in future videos where you play together with someone , those videos were too funny

[@armadillo3454]

Every playthrough ive done, no matter what race I choose, what government or where I go I fucking ALWAYS run into the Prakiki

[@Awesomewithaz]

He really said I'm not going to let them out and then did not fix the shield 😂

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

I didn’t trust the ”repair the shield” option so I felt ”do nothing” was safer.

[@luketheduke100]

Hope you come back soon dude, miss you vide. Take care

[@arnoldgila9212]

It was fun watching Could do it with some other empire cus it looks intresting scenario

[@gideonmele1556]

Did this once waaay back and tried to forge a United Federation of Planets sort of thing. That was the last time I went xenophile and that was 3-4 years ago

[@eoachan9304]

Good idea in theory to try, not the best execution, sure it will improve. Best to use cheats to give the Precursors stuff before starting :)

[@jeffers9001]

I’m planning on a run like this but as earth custodians and using guillis planetary features mod which should make for a fun run.

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

Just get ready for an absolute barrage of events!

[@ChrissieBear]

"pricky kitty" LOL

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

Yeah. Used one too many "ki" there. :P