Evidence Against the Mortis Theory? The Second Half of Star Wars Rebels Season 4

[@LoneStarGrizzly]

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[@LoneStarGrizzly]

It's all good, man! I think that is the first time I've ever been mentioned in a KZbin video! One step closer to internet fame, I guess! Hopefully, we get to see the final, solid answer on Ahsoka's fate and how it ties into the series finale that we have been waiting for over the span of nearly two years. Like I said, keep the videos coming!

[@2minutestotwelve388]

Said it many times on this channel and others, According too Clone Wars Season 3. E15 MIN 15.25 The father stated, he and his children can manipulate the force like no other, that was the reason for their seclusion. The nexus point of Mortis is mostly no longer relevant, as all players. The father, son and holy daughter are all died. The only reason that Anakin was brought there, was to replace the father. In order to control the fathers children. Now that they are all dead, no one is required to be there. Regardless, it may no longer exist, as was seen in Clone Wars season 3. E17 But, if it does, all the more reason to stop the emperor(.).. I do think there are remnants of the daughters and sons force powers, remaining in Ahsoka Tano(.).. The reason I believe that the emperor want to go to Mortis is to control and amplify his dark side powers further. Thus, allowing him to find ultimate power and eternal life. As for Ezra, I think we seen a future older version of him in The Last Jedi, DJ or Don't Join, I think this is Ezra after being injured by his battle with the emperor. ..I think that he has gone Gray or is a balanced force wielder, able to use both light and dark force powers. I truly believe that this is the only way to bring any meaningful peace, to the conflicted galaxy.There are more Gray force wielders "Bendu", then most people think, eventually Ezra becomes one, Ahsoka Tano.is one and we'll see if Caleb Doom become one, although one would have to have used, learned or been influenced by both sides of the force, to be one.. P.S. Just for clarity, Bendu is not his name, it’s what he is. The one in the middle.

[@yuhthisthat]

I don't want Ezra to turn to the dark side T^T

[@christinethilmany8519]

TheOneAboveAll YT same here I"m scared.

[@epetitti]

Long time viewer, first-time commenter! You haven't mentioned it in any of your videos yet, but at 2:01 in the trailer you can see the large wolf with blue eyes begin to transform into a new form. It lasts only a few seconds. We do not get to see what/who it changes into, but it is definitely changing form. As far as the Mortis Theory goes, Anakin was supremely powerful with the Force that is why he was considered the prophesized one to bring balance. It is also why the Father sought to test Anakin as his replacement. Kanan, while finally coming into his own as a Knight, is nowhere near Anakin's power level. Also, the Father, Son, and Daughter are all dead in the physical realm. So there is no need to keep them imprisoned on Mortis. With all three potentially becoming eternal force entities, why would the father need replacing at all?

[@TheMedievalman9]

I'm going to base this prediction on both what we saw in the mid-season trailer and my personal theory of what will happen in "DUME." I think they will all go to rescue Hera, but only Kanan will be the one to reach her; the rest will be used as a decoy to draw as many stormtroopers away as possible. They'll also use this opportunity to strike at, and capture, Governor Pryce. Kanan and Hera will spend the majority of the episode running, but Rukh will catch up to them, and a knockdown, drag out fight between Kanan and Rukh will ensue. Kanan will defeat Rukh, but be severely wounded as a result, and Hera will see him die. Or, at least, she will think she sees him die... I keep returning to the thought that Dave Filoni loves to troll his viewers (this is not a bad thing, mind you. It certainly keeps us guessing). She will think he's dead. The Ghost crew will think he's dead. Even we will think he's dead. But there will be one or two things that will make us go, "wait...what was that?" Just like he did with Ahsoka. And we'll start to wonder if he really is dead, and whether he has some connection to Mortis. More importantly, so will Ezra, who will begin to look for Kanan, and that will lead him to the Jedi Temple, and a journey to the World Between Worlds.

[@fuzzygurl23]

TheMedievalman9 And when Ezra attempts to rescue Kanan again like before in rebel resolve, he might meet stronger opposition from Hera which might set some tension between them...

[@StillSaber]

i don't like the idea of Ezra, Kanan, and Ahsoka becoming the Force Gods, it's like having a PBJ without the PBJ, no i think the Mural of the Father, Son, and Daughter is just a coincidence, meaning that they could have visited Lothal before they went into hiding and some ancient tribesman painted the mural of the 3 Force Wielders.

[@StillSaber]

thx

[@Nutzkie2001]

I agree that merely touching the dark side is a far cry from being consumed by it, and therefore Ezra is not qualified to truly replace the Son. But have we considered the possibility that maybe he doesn't have to be? Now I know that sounds like a strange question, but just let me explain what I mean... The whole point of the "Force Trinity" on Mortis was that they provided balance to the Force. Now the Father was in the middle, so he was essentially self-balancing, but the Son and Daughter were polar opposites of each other, standing at totally different ends of the force spectrum; the Daughter being entirely of the light, and the Son entirely of the dark. They essentially functioned as two children sitting at the extreme ends of a playground see-saw: Each one balancing the other perfectly. But what if one of them sat not on the extreme end of the scale, but rather slightly closer to the middle? Then the other would have to edge closer to the center as well, wouldn't they? They'd both still be positioned to the light and dark sides respectively, but just not to the extreme degree that they would have been otherwise. Enter the idea of Ahsoka as the Daughter... As a former Jedi who spent her formative years growing up within the order, and someone who proudly boasts an altruistic personality, she definitely walks a path well within the light. But she's no stranger to the darkness either. She doesn't embrace the code as a true member of the order would, carries light sabers devoid of any color, and even declared to Vader that she was no Jedi. She's not nearly the being of pure light that the Daughter was, so if she were to be tasked with maintaining balance in the Daughter's place, she would need a Brother-figure who was just as non-committal in his path, but with a lean toward the dark side that was inversely proportional to her own light-side lean. And THAT sounds a lot more like Ezra than the Brother's character profile ever did. So perhaps Ezra and Ahsoka ARE destined to fill the vacancies left by the Son and Daughter, respectively: Achieving balance within the Force... Just not to the degree of polarization that their predecessors brought to the job.

[@AlexAndR01]

I think it's not about Ezra, Kanan and Ashoka replacing the Mortis trio :/ i think it's about the mysterys of the force that are still on Mortis even after this trio's death so that Ezra may unlock those secrets. Lothal somehow posseses the gate/bridge to Mortis itself so Ezra will travel there and will be in some room full of acient books/papiruses that will contain this secret knoledge of the force and the balance. Somehow Father, son and the dauther lives after death in some form of reincarnation so Ezra might be the only one to see them.

[@wardlafferty362]

I'm beginning to think that the wolves are connected to the the Force Priestesses...& the leader of the pack is the leader of the Force Priestesses:Serenity.

[@christinethilmany8519]

I fear that Ezra will be the son of the dark side and that he will go in the dark side by the emperor.

[@christinethilmany8519]

Force Within TV you're welcome but could happen we will see though.

[@humanwrecker1648]

I think Kanan's just going to pull an Ashoka.... Everybody will think he's dead, just like we all did with Ashoka and then towards the end of the episode we'll see him entering the Jedi temple or something, with the mural of Father, daughter, and the son and then meeting with Ashoka, with her telling him, "they have a purpose that no one can know about." Of course though, Ezra will have something to do with that purpose as well, but he'll figure that out later when he goes on a journey to look for the secrets of Lothal or looking for Kanan, who goes by Caleb now. Time skipping to the end of the season to "Family Reunion-Farewell" we'll see Kanan, now Caleb, along with Ezra being reunited with the Ghost Crew, but then Ashoka comes by saying it's time to go, while at the same time telling the Ghost Crew that they can't tell anybody that they're still alive. Still debating what they would be doing post rebels, but hey we'll just have to see what really happens.

[@ghigingigonasada7547]

I dont think thats whatll happen. I have a feeling theyre going to learn about how they were trying to contain snoke. The son wanted to escape their "prison" they mentioned being apart of a race of beings , and snoke matches them visually. Same height , bitchen clothes, unmatched power. The Emperor shows up because he knows about Snoke but hasent found everything he needs to know about him( he builds the observatories) so he shows up to try and hide the fact he knows about this force god and is planning on using him as his contingency plan.

[@johnpiner2151]

I say it's where Ezra becomes a Jedi knight. He's faced Vader before. Maybe he passed his trial and kanan annoints him a knight. It seems time as Ezra has been the lead for season 3 and 4. Guess kanan would be a master then. But really interested to see his wolf connection. Hope he's from like the Morris family, or ancient Jedi family. Well see but would be cool to see. But if Ezra makes Jedi knight it has to happen before kanan goes down as masters often do.

[@altijdkuba9399]

I think (maybe) the evidence against the mortis theory is that the father, the daughter or son are hiding something or its a key to find ahsoka

[@altijdkuba9399]

Yeah i cannot wait 11 days

[@joewilliams9539]

I think it's possible that the ones were originally from Lothal. In the trailer we see Ezra hold out both hands in opposite directions using the force, just like Anakin did on Mortis to prove he was the chosen one. Also, the son was killed by a lightsaber, not the magical dagger. I know the father said that his death weakened the son but there is a slight possibility that the son is still alive. It seems more likely to me that Kaman will die, Ahsoka will replace the daughter and Ezra the father.

[@dalkothseer1185]

In my view of Mortis, i think that mortis in itself is meant to be the physical manifestation of the force in itself thus the family of force wielders may not have actually been living people but rather entities born of the force and when they all died the force it self came to balance apart from the state of the galaxy’s “politics”. I don’t think they actually need replacing, i think their knowledge may be passed on in some way through mortis itself witch kanan ezra and asoka will use to possible form an offical grey jedi order. Another possibility is that mortis may have had more than the family on it, namely the five force priestesses who helped teach yoda how to manifest as a force ghost like we saw in the lost episodes of clone wars.

[@arthurhempel9169]

So I am going to point out that we still didn't see two scenes from the second season 4 trailer. First being the one where Ezra is waking up alone somewhere on Llothal and the second being the one with Grand Moff Tarkin and Thrawn (I know you said something about the second one but i'm not sure if you noticed the first one) Sry for bad englisch I am german:)

[@fuzzygurl23]

One question: Is it possible that Snoke is claimed to be more powerful than even the father, son and daughter and that we may feel his spiritual presence in EP IX?

[@wardlafferty362]

Lee...would that then have bought Snoke into direct conflict with the Ones?

[@fuzzygurl23]

Ward Lafferty MAYBE... but now idk if this can be true after what happened in TLJ.

[@fuzzygurl23]

Ward Lafferty Btw, I think Kanan could die after all. Just look at the title of the soundtrack: Kanan's End Credits

[@danielshottopics8187]

So excited they announced that there just won't be one but Multiple Star Was Live Action TV series for there Disney Streaming service are you as hyped as me Mike?

[@kieronspoors1608]

It's like what I said before. The father wanted Anakin to stay. Maybe the father is one of many who have taken the role of the middle.

[@thelegallyblindcritic4403]

In episode 10 I think that we will see Kannan sacrifice his life to not only save Hara but Ezra and for the rest of the rebellion

[@wardlafferty362]

He’s too balanced...I believe that Kanan & Ezra will receive the same training Yoda had & Obi-Wan is receiving or has just finished receiving recently.

[@wardlafferty362]

Force Within TV I think Ezra may be too balanced to fall completely he’ll dabble in the darkside to maintain self balance...btw I counted 5 Loth-wolves in the trailer so maybe the wolves are connected to the Force Priestesses so the 2 best & my favorite arcs in TCW will finally see closure.

[@claytonthomas5510]

If I could make a suggestion to perhaps make the channel better is you could possibly do reaction videos to deuls, clips, or trailers of star wars

[@captaintuttle2274]

i think Kanan will most likely die and this is how. in the midseason trailer Ezra is holding that room together with the force and must chose to save Kanan or Hera witch he will save Hera and kanan will end up dying but knowing that he saved Hera's life is all that mattered to him.

[@aaronjohnson6835]

I believe we will see Rebels story arcs come full circle into Film Canon. Mandalore will come to the aid of the Rebels Sabine leading. EZRA will be with her

[@Jerrods123]

Remember what happened on Mortis. Ahsoka was evil and they Ahsoka brought back to life by good. She is the balance. She is not the light or the dark. Nor is she the father because he is neither light or dark but rather buffer between the two. Ahsoka is both dark and light after Mortis. She would not be the father, daughter, or the son, but rather a balance between all three. due to Ahsoka being the balance there is no need for a replacement to either the son or the daughter.

[@samwoodfield7332]

Ezra gw1ts knighted maybe?

[@swarthyjude]

SNOKE IS The Son! Damn it!

[@cirobraga5]

what if ahsoka obi wan and anakin had already become the "force gods" by the point of the last jedi that why only yoda showed up

[@66dogsinthetree91]

I think in episode 10 thrawns assassin will ambush kanan and Hera while their escaping, but Rukh will be overpowered by kanan and then Vader will come into frame and then all hell will break loose

[@altijdkuba9399]

Hey Mike do you think the son looks like Grand inquisitor?

[@altijdkuba9399]

Thanks :)

[@altijdkuba9399]

Aaah 13 days left man to the second half season

[@deadmonkey1391]

I think hera will be safed but Someone will die I don't know who it is

[@tuor6394]

How about Luke becoming the father, Kylo the son and Rey the daughter. A stretch I know but it seems plausible given this whole arc is being pushed into the narrative.

[@magnificentsultan1222]

I dont think that this is true, the role of the father must have power to defeat both of his children and the role of the father believes to chosen one.

[@jlassijlali290]

Jedi Knight will go save his wife!