The ESG Dragon and the State Treasurers | Derek Kreifels | EP 344

Ep. 344
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Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and Derek Kreifels discuss the primary role of the state treasurer and why now, with the onslaught of ESGs and anti-fossil fuel divesting, their stewardship is so important.
Derek Kreifels is the co-founder and Chief Executive Officer of the State Financial Officers Foundation (SFOF), the only nonprofit in the U.S. that combines ground-breaking free-market research with a strong network of states’ treasurers, auditors, and other financial officers, to actively sustain the health of each state’s economic outlook.
Before co-founding SFOF in 2012, Kreifels spent five years as Assistant State Treasurer of Kansas, where he oversaw the state’s college savings plan, ABLE plan, debt and bond management, and pension investments. During his tenure, his office processed over $21B annually, and he managed 42 employees with an annual budget of over $3.5M.
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(0:00) Coming Up
(1:33) Intro
(2:33) Background, the State Financial Officers Foundation
(5:50) Free Market first
(6:28) What a State Treasurer is responsible for
(8:25) Trust and treasuries
(9:36) Fiduciary responsibility defined
(11:02) ESG’s intro
(12:48) Environmental, Social, and Governance
(14:15) The vision being put forward
(17:18) Vanguard, Blackrock: the giants
(18:04) Leveraging your money against your values
(20:19) SFOF’s stance on ESG’s
(23:41) The “mad rush” to abandon fossil fuels
(27:39) The ESG movement will not work
(28:24) The issue of poverty and human flourishing
(29:19) Banning gas stoves, the scope of metro-products
(30:49) Leveraging US funds for Chinese coal investment
(32:22) To the residual environmentalists: It’s the same air
(33:40) Why Fink bends the knee
(35:04) Cobalt Red and covert buying
(36:40) Conservatives have been slow to respond
(39:08) Evil capitalists
(40:41) CEOs, you’d have to be daft…
(41:39) Why we typically listen to our elders
(44:11) The top 3 ESG firms own 20 percent of the market
(46:02) How Blackrock co-opts your funds
(49:17) Most people don’t vote their shares
(51:41) Weaponizing money
(54:39) The absurd precedent set by Trudeau
(56:19) Pushing back on IRS over-monitoring
(58:37) 15-minute cities
(1:00:00) Digital currency and crypto
(1:03:11) 50 states, 50 answers
(1:03:58) SFOF goals for Americans: divest in Blackrock
(1:06:30) Vanguard lost 2 Billion in a year
(1:08:04) Vivek Ramaswamy, Strive
(1:09:59) America: a beautiful mess or progress and insanity
(1:11:59) What you can do
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[@teoigi3247]

That introduction, I needed to hear that. I just got off work late, my car just died on me halfway home, and I just finished cursing and complaining about how I'm not appreciated at work. Saw a notification of Dr. Peterson's video and that introduction just uplifted me. While watching the video, waiting on a tow truck, my wife just called saying she was coming over to wait with me. Now she's here with my daughters and they brought me food. It just hit me, I'M APPRECIATED AT THE RIGHT PLACE. Thank you. 🙌

[@garrettvantiem4637]

That's amazing to have a realization like that, and how interesting that it follows turmoil. You've been through the desert my friend, you might still be there on occasion, but you've built a nation in your family and they clearly entered the desert with, and stand by you :D

[@teoigi3247]

@Garrett Van Tiem I'm blessed, my brother whom I don't know but treasure your words. I will continue to appreciate my family and do my best to encourage others out there.

[@freddieoblivion6122]

A happy ending.

[@larryc7035]

All you/we need is a few words of encouragement

[@teoigi3247]

@@freddieoblivion6122 now I'm finally home watching Bebefinn with the little one 🤣

[@OGTVnews]

Sometimes I wish Peterson was our leader. Then I realize how much more usefull he is in his current position. Protect this man.

[@mikedun5396]

Jordan Peterson for president.. Hallelujah

[@derekuber1]

I was wishing he would run for PM...lucky for us we have Pierre. Hopeful he can turn this boat around.

[@mikedun5396]

@@derekuber1 brother I'm putting in my prayers.. ultimately that's what we'll turn it all around 🙏🏻

[@big_red_machine3547]

Exactly

[@alaricgoldkuhl155]

I think he'd be wasted as a leader. He's right where he needs to be, doing what he's best at doing.

[@ts4231]

Jordan Peterson was never sleeping as a giant but he’s definitely a consistently fully aware giant that’s been compelled to the frontlines. Thank you for standing with and fighting for us. ❤️

[@AlexHillsCandles4Assange]

Remember when he was pushing the clot shot angrily on everyone? Now he falls for the anti semitism b.s.when anyone who's done the research understand the influences worldwide from the apartheid-loving Israel lobby groups. Censorship & bullying in this area is off the scale. Abolish the top 4 banks no matter what religion or nationality they are... They are the ones who have been murdering the people en mass for years...

[@jakeroper1096]

I like JP but this guest has never opened a single investment account in his life. Everything he said sounds down right silly to anyone who has serious money invested.

[@AlexHillsCandles4Assange]

@@jakeroper1096 can't really forgive JP for pushing ppl to have the clot shot. Anyone who did that has lost my respect and many like me.

[@nicewhenearnedrudemostlyel489]

What

[@jakeroper1096]

@@AlexHillsCandles4Assange it’s okay you don’t need God’s forgiveness, don’t worry about it :)

[@bennyhinu]

I'm from UK 🇬🇧🇬🇧 Ever since i met Mrs Sophia I'm now living big life, she is the best

[@stallerh]

Wtf, y'all know mrs Sophia too wow, she’s really a good trader, she’s my portfolio manager, her skills are top notch.didn’t take her for the famous type.

[@yunusasadisu380]

I remember friends calling me crazy when I started but i now shut up them with my four figure weekly returned

[@moonsun3866]

@@paisleybrooklyn There is really no country restriction in her company,,,I’m investing with her from UK 🇬🇧

[@moonsun3866]

@@paisleybrooklyn What surprises me about her mostly is she gives her client's access to her trading site whereby they can monitor their trades on daily basis

[@robiny.4395]

Since my Father died, I haven't heard this sort of talk. I feel like God is using this man to help so many of us who maybe need to hear a Father's voice.

[@ChristisKing229]

I cannot even begin to describe how much Peterson has changed my life. Love you Jordan♥

[@teoigi3247]

Same here, 7 years ago I went through the worst experience in my life and fought my demons, Dr. Peterson's words helped me realize there was more out there for me to do. Today was one of those bad days and here he is still encouraging me on with just an introduction I needed to hear.

[@susanann8741]

This was awesome… I now have a clear picture of just what ESG’s are and how dangerous they are as an investment. Many thanks Dr Peterson and the State Treasurers that are tackling this issue.

[@tamashumi7961]

Although Jordan does pretty good job explaining ESG, check out Vivek Ramaswamy for an even better explanation. Also not sure why Jordan differentiate between ESG and DEI. The latter is literally among the goals of the "S" in ESG. Hire a diversity officer, open a diversity office or get a diversity training scam for $25k a day in your company, and book - the company ESG score goes up.

[@whycomes9562]

Tesla, which mass produces electric cars has a low ESG score. It's completely political. ESG disregards a companies product, their sales, talent, cash flow and of most importance return. Instead they focus on melanin and estrogen in the company workforce and board. ESG funds returns are terrible. It's like judging elected officials on their looks and not on their policies. Completely stupid.

[@paulbuchanan9382]

Vanguard has stopped using ESG since Feb of 2023 after doing a study to find it was determined to harm returns 😊

[@davidbolen8982]

Word is out. Nobody’s gonna let these WEF/Sociocommies move one more step without a metaphorical punch in the head. Trudeau is next to get his walking papers.

[@malkomalkavian]

Thanks for info

[@joan3891]

I heard that from vanguard recently and thought, hmmm I wonder if that’s actually true?!

[@branchcovidian754]

Are they telling the truth????

[@malkomalkavian]

@@branchcovidian754 It seems to be true. They have made a statement that it is not in the interests of their investors to use ESG as a guide to investment. I think it is quite a big step.

[@heartspacerelaxations6924]

Delighted you moved onto one of the most important subjects of our time, the inversion of freedom, using ESG to turn our hard fought rights into privileges, as described in ‘this pivotal moment’ episodes one and two. Thank you to Jordan, Bret Weinstein and Joe Rogan amongst countless others who work tirelessly making this critical issue public knowledge.

[@jarvanwildrift8056]

Jordan is not right on this, his arguments that ESG is a reason for China to expand carbon is incorrect plus China has a massive green movement. Germanys problem is not ESG but a policy decision from within the country and we have to wait to see the outcome further into the future.

[@KopperNeoman]

From their perspective, weak men allowed their liberty to be lost by not crushing things like Magna Carta. Their liberty is the right to own slaves though, so they can get fucked.

[@kathrynoneill81]

China uses Uyghur slaves and the Falong Gong in "re-education" camps; we should not buy ANYTHING from them.

[@handroids1981]

Have you seen China's ACTUAL green movement? They're literally painting entire MOUNTAINS green! Have a look at videos by serpentza on KZbin.

[@renderlessgames]

@@jarvanwildrift8056 Commie shill

[@kellyandjulieelander5523]

Derek was an excellent guest. He explains everything to straightforward and clearly in everyday language anyone can understand.

[@dominicwright7859]

I am a U.S. citizen who travels outside of the US often. I enjoy listening to Jordan Peterson and the guests he has on. This gentleman seems to know what's actually going on in the states. Most people don't. Our news is so jaded and heavily influenced that it can hardly be considered news. If you travel outside the US the world is laughing at us (not an exaggeration). Jordan's podcast is a breath of fresh air.

[@brndxt]

And a big foe of the US is telling its people the East will rise and the West will fall sometime in this century.

[@oldengineguy]

Powerful and rich people have really refined the art of capitalizing on public sentiment that they’ve created with that very objective in mind. We truly are “sheeple.”

[@Far2hip]

If there was ever someone that can purely clarify “The devil is in the details”, it’s Jordan Peterson. 👍🏻😎👍🏻

[@rafed3672]

It is a pity that Dr. Peterson is so naive that he believes that CEO of large corporations are guided by guilt. I hope he continues to study this issue further to understand that this is not true. See Dr. Michael RECTENWALD.

[@mkhan1921]

BlackRock provides risk tooling for most mutual funds. Mutual funds select investable bits based on the expressed risk/return (benchmarks) of their funds and the expertise of their fund managers. The promise behind this is that these investable bits become interoperable and are more cheaply packaged for liquidity and can be appropriately hedged on a variable basis. The investable bits are only investable if they follow the view of the house BlackRock. Blackrock may have good intentions but poor implementation due mostly to penalties and incentives misalignment at the lower level. The 2008 financial crisis was made possible by the debt packaging tooling created by BlackRock, a revolutionary product that allows more people to access credit. But a dishonest representation of risk at credit rating agencies (influenced by banks) and at banks themselves made this turn to ... very quickly. It was the upper class that took advantage of this more than those who the credit was meant for and they defaulted because it was not a good deal anymore. If banks could not sell their debt the banks would have acted ethically. ESG does not attract capital, because it does not make money in most cases, but Blackrock promises a low cost of capital to investable companies. Innovation will happen and it will compound due to the amount of investment in the ESG space. Compounding growth can make the 2030 idealistic goal a reality but there is a cost. Company earnings are fragile but capital will not flow out because there is simply no better place for it to go with liquidity, diversification, and an idea of risk. Blackrock knows this well and they have created a new corporate tax. The cost is great and this forcing function will destroy more than it creates.

[@adaynasmile]

I am so grateful for this conversation. In some ways it was discouraging but knowing there are people who are fighting the insanity is super encouraging. In the end it was a good listen.

[@ZeroFucksLeft]

Too bad they're being shadow banned

[@timblack6422]

Easy to tell who isn’t listening to the cast

[@laureldemille623]

​@@johnspencefareal420 you have eyes and ears for a reason...why don't you use them

[@grantduke318]

They aren't even touching half of the issues surrounding ESG. Small private organizations that should have a right to not pay some ridiculous ESG consulting firm money are forced into this also. Publicly traded retailers (in order to suffice their own ESG goals) are instructing all their product suppliers to provide them with their organization's ESG metrics, threatening to drop their products if their request isn't sufficiently met. Now how do you think this fares when thinking about American made products vs Chinese made? Do you think Chinese suppliers will be honest with the metrics they come up with? Do these retailers have any legal grounds in China to substantiate their metric claims? No. So all this does is further increase the cost of goods made in America in a time when inflation is running a muck. 👏Hooray for the Biden administration for their success in further selling out America under the guise of environmentalism.

[@anotherguy5038]

John 14:21

[@alaia-awakened]

When I started reading about all of this 5 years ago, it was terrifying that no one seemed to know about Blackrock. At least it's now out in the open, even if many still choose to look the other way. I don't think I could've stomached the last 3 years without seeing so many people waking up all at once!

[@smelltheglove2038]

A lot of people in my life are retiring in the next year or two or have retired in the past year or two. They have all watched their 401ks just dissolve in front of their eyes over the past two years. You know, after they went up the previous years. Like losses of 50%. And their is nothing they can do, they are retiring. It’s really making me think the idea of a 401k is asinine. It’s a shit benefit. You don’t choose which investments are being made, and how much they match is irrelevant if when it’s time for you to retire, the federal reserve and the government are actively trying to crash the market and destroy the country. It’s not a good idea!

[@Miakitty4233]

What's sad is most ppl believe that these people and politicians are going to do what they want despite anything that they support or are against. Ppl honestly believe nothing will change and at this point that is what has been happening even when raising the alarm with our governors or senators.

[@alaia-awakened]

@@Miakitty4233 People are well and truly gaslit. They don't trust the evidence they can see with their own eyes but instead repeat the lies that are paddled to them.

[@MrBobinski1]

​@Smell The Glove Back in the day companies tried to persuade employees to swap their company pensions for a 401k. Even the inventor of the 401k said it was meant to supplement a pension, not replace it. There an old Frontline documentary about it. It's so sad that companies don't care about employees.

[@tamashumi7961]

Normies still sleep though. I've asked a friend of mine did hear about the great reset and he's answer was - what do you mean, like proper party with a lot of drinking? Hahaha!

[@deborahjoyvalentine6180]

Arizona here, listening intently. Thank you.

[@norbucso]

Ready for my steady weekly dose of adult talk. 😊

[@jessicaromuald2902]

Thank you Dr. Peterson for what you are doing and bring out all these information to us with your very educated guests. Blessings from Adelaide Australia. 🙏

[@retiredrebel]

This man no longer has a conscience, after the MOSSAD infected his wife & dangled the anti-dote he capitulated to FREE-MARKET profit before people Cabal.

[@DailyCorvid]

This mans temperament and ability to focus on the primary concern; amongst a thousand others ... It really is an achievement. In future years when people look back, Peterson man ... well he ain't no joke man. Lol.

[@dragonrider9051]

I tell everyone I know selling their property, to never sell to a company, always sell to family who's trying to family, that's what a home is. Not a business.

[@mikefibre5337]

Good advice❤🇿🇦southafrica👍

[@janetcohen9190]

Good advice! It would be golden if 'family' buyer of property did not involve bank / financier debts. Here's nothing new that you may already know of a tiny glimpse of financial, Fed a bank cartel feeyat 'money' based on nil. Casino system greed, speculation, value balloons, and more debts, mortgages, equity loans, car loans, reverse mortgages, student loans, etc all plus interest/ usury. -Value balloon busts- with an array of musical chair financial games whereby most people ('family') are left without chairs. Consider that for example, mortgages were in past were very rare and when utilised lasted a few months to 3 years. Since 1945 mortgages have steadily become longer duration, i.e., 1-3 yrs, 3-5yrs, 3-7yrs, 7-12yrs, 10-15yrs, 12-20yrs, 15-25yrs, 20-30yrs, 30-50yrs essentially approaching human lifetime. Give tries to calculating examples to convey perspective regarding prices of cars and added usury/ interest, applicable relative to the pickle 97% of population are burdened with. The above are plus various taxes, insurance, etc. ...Upkeep. Also, consider does property ownership actually exist? Why? Do ''property owner's'' exist for such as land, farm, house, small-business, etc or are they actually owned by local, town, city, county, state/ province, national government, but are actually only rented by levies, taxes/fees on property to 'property owner' ?

[@garyandtricia1]

As I recall, the federal government has three primary duties: 1) Protect the borders/national defense 2)Regulate foreign trade 3)Prevent monopolies Blackrock should not exist

[@mikedun5396]

Don't worry mr. Anderson.. evil angels will straighten them out or take them out

[@darenmiller2218]

Yeah there’s many things that shouldn’t exist. We’ve all been played over and over again. I think the libertarians see it best though I don’t really agree with some of their other ideologies.

[@TAOG40]

Interesting. I'd say they failed all three.

[@garyandtricia1]

@@TAOG40 I'd say you're correct.

[@metrach8901]

dude... are you not aware who owns the gov? They can literally do whatever they please

[@betterdaysahead3746]

May the Lord bless you richly this Easter season Dr. Peterson. Thank you for all you have done.

[@MillicentStClaire]

The depth and breadth of Dr. Peterson's knowledge and wisdom never ceases to amaze me. I am always delighted and expanded by his illuminating and elegant explanations and hope is restored in my soul. And in this interview, big love to Derek Kreifels too!

[@davidaustin5622]

Gratitude to Derek and Jordan. This is informative and an easy listen. Thank you.

[@branchcovidian754]

What clan is your tartan?

[@davidaustin5622]

@@branchcovidian754 The national tartan of Jamaica.

[@jusstsophi]

May the Lord reveal Himself to you and bless you Mr. Peterson ❤😊.

[@1servingtruthfreedomplease]

Fantastic podcast!!! Very intelligent, and thought provoking. Never knew about ESG. Thank you to both of you!!! Jordan you are a hero and are greatly loved to so so many!!! Another proud Canadian

[@kathrynoneill81]

ESG is directly related to the 17 SDGs of the United Nations. Follow that chain - it is a design to count every grain of rice, every drop of food and water, every hair on every head! Right in your cities, too, the C 40 cities counting it all in CANADA!

[@Notwoke7]

​@Kathryn O'Neill Thank you for pointing that out!

[@henrykleyn3423]

God bless you and your family Dr Peterson.

[@michaelcarter266]

I like Jordan Peterson because he is on team common sense.

[@amihere383]

And even deeper than common sense, the deep philosophical roots that uphold the validity of said common sense.

[@asimplenight8220]

Common sense is stupid , rationality is better.

[@darenmiller2218]

I don’t know what this dude does, but if he’s for the free market, NOT insider trading, and doing the best for the people, man he’s got my vote. That’s better than 90% of representatives.

[@Cherry-kt8zo]

He makes mega $$$$$ on every podcast,social media strip,appearance etc. Money talks eh..

[@mbryan4964]

Thank you for this intro to Kreifels‼️ Kreifels totally rocks‼️ He wasn't able to pin down a couple of points but still offered consistently important information without wilting to Jordan's style of interview. 👏Kudos Kreifels👍‼️

[@davidharrell7030]

Thanks for this guy is very correct and honest and forthright about everything and I am the same way

[@jesseburgardtart]

THANK YOU for sharing with us this informormation! The public must know how money is flowing through our states. Also, •where are the 'stuck-points' and •what can be improved •the prudent roles that regular citizens can play This discussion acts as a warning for each of us to become active in our communities. 🙏

[@ajdefajdef6106]

1 hr interview and can learn so much from the TOP G DOC

[@phyllislovelace8151]

A heartfelt thank you to you both gentlemen.

[@brendathornton4946]

We need more Jordan Petersons in this world! He may not be an expert on climate change, and the Bots that are forcing this farce, but he is an expert in human psychology ❤️ and why we do stupid stuff!

[@mickmanning3383]

A great interview. I love this guy, AND that guy.

[@lorenza2589]

I never knew there were so many people who are asleep. So many I talk to about this have no opinion on it and "well that's the way the world is headed *hands in the air*" type of apathy is disturbing. I want to live around people who are aware.

[@ronaldreagan5981]

Sheeple

[@kylehandschin5117]

Good interview. If every person in the West watched these videos, we'd have a much more informed populace. I STILL talk to people all the time who think that the biggest concern to the world is climate change. And it's SO hard to convince anyone otherwise.

[@Winterascent]

When they are starving they might change their mind.

[@MrDanielsahne]

​@@Winterascent they will not even change their mind if they life in the pods and eat the bugs. Slow cooking kills the frog.

[@bennieknape4857]

There is no Climate catastrophe aluminum.

[@stormbringerseven8288]

Climate change is the biggest con ever.

[@wendellbabin6457]

I know this is old now but folks should check out the Marxism is a Religion podcast with James Lyndsay. Then just about any of James's videos on ESG, DEI, SEL and the WEF and United Nations role in all this as well as the teacher's unions in the US support of all of these should really clarify some things. You just THOUGHT this topic was scary. Fair warning, James Lyndsay's podcasts over at New Discourses can go 3 hours, but give a thoroughly "in the weeds" breakdown of the History of Marxism and how all this has been rolling out for AT LEAST the last 50 to 60 years. A LOT of it can be linked back to the old Soviet Union. Folks should also do a crib course on JBP podcast with James Russell Mead I believe his name was. Was called nukes, war and power I think.

[@roninbhaal2039]

When you are a candle, all you can see is the darkness and shadows around you. When you are in the darkness all your focus is on the light. You are the light for so many Jordan. Just wanted to say, how much you are loved and appreciated by so many. Thank you for all you have sacrificed.

[@bushyphoku6463]

Well said, thank you, watching from South Africa.

[@jackcaffrey8493]

I’m Batman

[@vixeondaniels8886]

This man has restored my faith 🙏 Thank you for giving humanity another chance 🎉

[@mariagarced1013]

Pescador de Hombres, as always, THANK YOU. This Sunday is Palm Sunday...a great time for reflection. Gracias!!! The Gates of Hades SHALL NOT PREVAIL.

[@luisricardominghetti5714]

Thank you so much for your life and amazing work🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@klassicjammer7322]

I wish Peterson would have let his guest talk a little more but it’s just a small criticism. Thank you Dr Peterson for getting us educated on these important issues.

[@Political-du8yd]

Thank you Jordan Peterson for all the good you have done!…1 commenter stated that you should be “our leader”…I don’t agree…I don’t agree that there should be “a leader”…except in 1 relationship…Christ should be my…our leader!…but I do thank God for the work he’s done in your life & your family!…I thank God that he used you as a great vessel to wake up many people around the world!…may The Lord continue to move in your life & may He open our eyes to show us truth…His Truth! Seek truth…it only leads 1 direction…

[@ZaccLee]

You are the light through darkness sir, you've changed my life since I found you on Ethan Snake's podcast. 💜💜💜

[@mikedun5396]

Jordan Peterson for president.. Hallelujah

[@ZaccLee]

@@AFringedGentian Ethan "too lazy to workout", "snake" Klein 😊😊😊

[@joelhortz4523]

I love you mate ! You are a true legend and like I have mentioned previously. I can not wait to meet you man. God bless you always

[@wollieerasmus9444]

Good to listen to you two. Sorry if I box you in, but I would like to call you leaders and definitely not politicians. Thank you for the compass you provide.

[@Cinderella227]

Thank you Jordan 👍🏻✝️❤️

[@wireycoyote3544]

Oh boy this oughta be good.

[@davematthews6284]

What made Black Rock so massive? They have a computer algorithm that allows them to trade. Now they have so much power they can influence markets and bet for or against them at will.

[@mikedun5396]

Don't worry brother.. evil angels will straighten them out or take them out

[@josephpurdy8390]

That means of passive income that other corporations used. When they set up 401k investments for their employees.

[@encouraginglegacy]

FINALLY, Dr. Peterson. Thank you.

[@miguelalonsogranja-to4bx]

Jordan Peterson is one of the most intellectual people in this world. I wonder myself where are the rest of them. If any of you, from this channel or another, could tell me one person from any specific country (either French, German, Italian, Russian, Chinese, it doesn't matter...), it would be wise not only to learn from them, but also to learn the language. Because you start to create your own ideas and your own way of thinking.

[@hourkid]

Such an informative conversation. Well done Derek for doing what you are doing. People are more aware of this now that’s for sure through JP’s platform

[@carl4323]

Thank you Dr. Peterson. This is the best topic you have discussed to date. Others have been great, but this one is the best yet.

[@sandyweaver6686]

Thank you to both of you for having this conversation

[@harrydavey9884]

Get'em Jordan!

[@ClubGee96]

I've just bough your book 12 rules of life, I believe it will help me alot with my personal questions and the way I look at myself and others. Thank you for bringing this book out!

[@chuglyc]

Thank you. This is a brand new topic for me so I am really grateful to have had the opportunity to listen and learn about such an important issue. It’s almost overwhelming how many ways the Left has begun to circumvent traditional and ethical avenues of policy making. Talk about a snake with ten heads! Thank you Jordan Petersen once again for another fantastic interview.

[@M0T0.M.B.]

Your voice is sow calming dont no why ,i think because you say what you see and keeps it in Reality. Thanks

[@jamesobsidian6924]

A great conversation. Much thanks to dr peterson and mr kiefels on how this is working out.

[@alexanderwang2632]

Can you do normal university-course lectures again? Like, tell me about the HPA axis and behavioral economics. I know there is a urgency for better journalism, but I would like to see more information-oriented lectures for more senior academics.

[@Ash-zh5yg]

Jordan is absolutely right where he's talking about the consequences of these social control plans. He's chasing the cookie crumbs, he'll find the cookies have all been eaten by the same people.

[@beverleecarrell510]

Yes.. Hitler expedited all this including climate controls..Can we never learn?

[@rafed3672]

It is a pity that Dr. Peterson is so naive that he believes that CEO of large corporations are guided by guilt. I hope he continues to study this issue further to understand that this is not true. See Dr. Michael RECTENWALD.

[@mkhan1921]

BlackRock provides risk tooling for most mutual funds. Mutual funds select investable bits based on the expressed risk/return (benchmarks) of their funds and the expertise of their fund managers. The promise behind this is that these investable bits become interoperable and are more cheaply packaged for liquidity and can be appropriately hedged on a variable basis. The investable bits are only investable if they follow the view of the house BlackRock. Blackrock may have good intentions but poor implementation due mostly to penalties and incentives misalignment at the lower level. The 2008 financial crisis was made possible by the debt packaging tooling created by BlackRock, a revolutionary product that allows more people to access credit. But a dishonest representation of risk at credit rating agencies (influenced by banks) and at banks themselves made this turn to ... very quickly. It was the upper class that took advantage of this more than those who the credit was meant for and they defaulted because it was not a good deal anymore. If banks could not sell their debt the banks would have acted ethically. ESG does not attract capital, because it does not make money in most cases, but Blackrock promises a low cost of capital to investable companies. Innovation will happen and it will compound due to the amount of investment in the ESG space. Compounding growth can make the 2030 idealistic goal a reality but there is a cost. Company earnings are fragile but capital will not flow out because there is simply no better place for it to go with liquidity, diversification, and an idea of risk. Blackrock knows this well and they have created a new corporate tax. The cost is great and this forcing function will destroy more than it creates.

[@wendellbabin6457]

Probably more likely some sort of "edible" with a Kool-Aid chaser.

[@Lautaro_FF]

Es hora de abrir los ojos y luchar por un futuro mejor para nuestros hijos! Gracias Jordan por todo tu trabajo, saludos y bendiciones desde Argentina 🇦🇷✨🌿👍🏻

[@McVet3]

Thank you Dr Peterson! Thank you 🤝💪🙏❤️

[@Bakiniyorum]

Great timing.

[@lawsonspedding6136]

Hello Jordan, please keep me informed about your previously advised symposium in London this autumn - the alternative to the WEF !

[@ilzitek2419]

You are my mentor. Thank you for being you.

[@ecash30]

Hello JP, perhaps you could bring on Richard Wolfe to have an enlightening conversation about Socialism. Also, Vandana Shiva would be a great conversation on the front of environmentalism. I think we could all learn a great deal if you and they would be willing to sit down to have a public discourse.

[@serpico1375]

I love this guy!

[@davidsykes7251]

Thanks for the video, research and time of this production. Exactly on point and as always weaponized agenda as usual cannot thank you enough for bringing this to the light of the people who don't know the game.

[@connifilteau2678]

Brilliant discussion. Thanks for educating the public.

[@vibeworldmeta]

Praise to the light we exist in the same timeline as Jordan Peterson. It's like living in the time of Jung and Freud but with front row seats. Amazing time to be alive.

[@lanceroark6386]

10:08 the best interest of the organization isn’t the people when the state is the organization.

[@carlubambi5541]

Fantastic as always

[@blazingarrows6117]

Great discussion. Thank you!

[@kensadler7373]

Thank you Dr Peterson, great info and podcast .

[@ggarcia7942]

Not enough! We need to stop these corporations period!

[@mikedun5396]

Don't worry brother.. evil angels we'll straighten them out or take them..

[@ZingerSportDogGear]

Its scary to think I have most of my savings with companies like Blackrock and Vanguard. Its time for me to rethink my alternatives.

[@jodihouts6032]

Yes. They contribute to much evil all over the world.

[@susanreaves4762]

Everyone should hear this.

[@alicemccain585]

I really enjoyed your guest today. It helped me so very much.

[@y_s4021]

We gotta keep talking about it. A year ago I saw no one talking about ESG. Now its starting to appear here and there, apparently Vanguard is turning away from it (rumors).

[@user-om9yf4kp4l]

I believe the word is fiduciary obligation, not necessarily duty or responsibility. Within any trust, you have a fiduciary obligation as the overseer to benefit the beneficiary of any such trust .

[@nuqwestr]

In the US RULE OF LAW the word is DUTY: Fiduciary Duty is defined by Black's Law Dictionary as “a duty of utmost good faith, trust, confidence, and candor owed by a fiduciary.

[@Ms.Opportunity-og9yu]

I'm stuck in Alton, IL & must exit today. Difficulties are the same. Claudine

[@itsmorphed6416]

Whoa . Mind blowing interview. Thanks.

[@jackjelinski]

I would really love to see Jordan interview peter schiff

[@marcbra5074]

Great news !!!

[@june52005]

Thank you JP. Really good overview of ESG.

[@mariojorge9529]

Thank you!

[@charleskim1080]

Get the hell up! Me: Yes!! More power to you Dr. Peterson!

[@RUBSI8]

Have a good day my friends. Manage your risks!

[@karinamauritia9466]

Mr. PETERSON, You are amazing. Great job! 🎉

[@gailynbrock5204]

Showing this to my investment counselor...NO ESG!

[@JoeyJoJoJrShabbado]

“Clean my room, peasants.” Blackrock, probably.

[@thepunisherxxx6804]

It should be illegal for corporations to own multiple real estate assets like this. It needs to be reclaimed for the American People. Same with farmland to an extent or the use case needs to be constrained to only support farming of a certain type if bought. We need to protect what actually makes America great for its people and what supports the American Dream.

[@clivehorridge]

Not just America, there seems to be nobody looking out for other countries (European countries for example) and we’re under the same bs climate change / equal outcome / gender fluidity and other such nonsense - and there’s no escape for us. Sometimes I’m glad I’m old and won’t be around much longer to see the hell on this beautiful earth these idiots will create.❤️🇷🇴

[@thepunisherxxx6804]

@@clivehorridge Yup. Sorry I see what you guys are going through with migrants, housing, and violence. I have some optimism. There are rational people out there that want to make things better and help people. Its easy to forget that when the vocal minority is screaming about everything online and on the news, but man its going to be a battle.

[@korycassel5197]

When the printing presses in Europe first allowed the common man to proliferate ideas, there was an immediate crack down on the use of printing presses. They were all brought under censorship controls by the secular powers but also in particular Church oversight to stop questions just like this you mention: public land usage; from being talked about. Hundreds of thousands of people were summarily executed, many excommunicated and burned alive as examples. The great saint of historical record Martin Luther published incendiary language supporting these censorship measures. However much he disagreed with the monopoly on thought owned by Rome, he certainly wasn't going to have some plebs, the hoy poloi common people inserting their voices into conversations among their betters either. He said to 'kill them like dogs in the streets' and 'they have abandoned their godly and rightful place' etc... We don't learn about that part of the story in schools strangely enough. This tyranny we're seeing today and the divide and conquer hate mongering is the same pattern being repeated with the revolution of internet communication being too freely available and the common people asking questions IMO.

[@lucasl..7307]

Doctor Jordan Peterson, First of all, I am one more person you saved. I am eternally grateful! Now, I would like to know if there is a list somewhere, of the stories you quote during your talks. Thanks in advance!

[@dianaboughner7977]

Thank you both so much❤Yes I shared this and I understand a lot more niw about all this.

[@annabell3385]

Vanguard manages investments for drug stores and private prisons. That should be explored as well.

[@nuqwestr]

"for" or "with"?

[@JoeyJoJoJrShabbado]

I just investing into a Vanguard index fund, getting the hell out.

[@ronniemacsween6977]

Is there anything similar being done in Canada? Thanks for the info! God Bless these two Guies!!!!

[@sharondjakubus1052]

thank you for bringing this to the American people's attention