Statically Indeterminate Beam by Superposition Example 1 (Part 1/2) - Mechanics of Materials

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structurefree

structurefree

10 жыл бұрын

This video demonstrates how to calculate the reactions and draw shear and moment diagrams of a statically indeterminate beam by using the method of superposition (aka force method).
Part 1 - Apply the principle of superposition to calculate reactions.
Part 2 - Draw the shear and moment diagrams of the beam

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@toastghost9145
@toastghost9145 4 жыл бұрын
Going through this was an enormous help; it really cleared up my confusion on indeterminacy.
@l0velymi781
@l0velymi781 Ай бұрын
Life saver!! Got a final tomorrow and been struggling with this all day.
@DaniloSilva-lu7ft
@DaniloSilva-lu7ft 8 жыл бұрын
Mann so are the best. Revision never felt so good. Thanks a lot
@icwhatudont
@icwhatudont 10 жыл бұрын
i really like that you flash through equations rather than spend time writing them down.
@aaronwilliams4509
@aaronwilliams4509 2 жыл бұрын
OMG YASS QUEEN! I was just going to comment this. I cannot stand when youtubers make us sit through drawings.
@killiancoleman3452
@killiancoleman3452 2 жыл бұрын
@@aaronwilliams4509 don’t say yass queen
@Maddsization
@Maddsization 6 жыл бұрын
You are the sole reason I pass these tests
@Awayze
@Awayze 8 жыл бұрын
This exact example is in my notes which i did not understand, thanks man. I also used your videos 2 years ago to get a mark of 75% in my exam, there was one question in the exam not covered by your videos which i struggled with massively.
@AK-gt8zy
@AK-gt8zy 8 жыл бұрын
Quickly rockin your channel all the way to finals, you are so good at explaining!
@structurefree
@structurefree 8 жыл бұрын
+A. Kessler thanks! Good luck with finals.
@markbenn1907
@markbenn1907 Жыл бұрын
Great work. Perfect for a quick revision.
@Sma3oYaJame3a
@Sma3oYaJame3a 9 жыл бұрын
you are just awesome!! I can't say just how helpful your videos are!!
@structurefree
@structurefree 9 жыл бұрын
Mark Zeidan thanks for the kind words.
@ScenicWay
@ScenicWay 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! You just saved my life :)
@laurenceegalla5087
@laurenceegalla5087 9 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks man! Very helpful
@eremiteshome
@eremiteshome Ай бұрын
Cheers mate helped me with my assignment a bunch!!
@konanblejustin855
@konanblejustin855 8 жыл бұрын
you gave me the solution of my problem by your awesome method. thanks very much
@structurefree
@structurefree 8 жыл бұрын
+KONAN BLE JUSTIN awwwww yeaaah!
@kirklandschmaltz731
@kirklandschmaltz731 2 жыл бұрын
Why at time time 7:30 did you use a different equation then at time 7:50 when both are point loads along the beam? Does it have to do with the support? The one at 7:30 starts with v(x) and the one at 7:50 is the delta equation.
@djordjepepic1656
@djordjepepic1656 8 жыл бұрын
Hey, I really enjoy your videos! Thanks so much for all the work. I have one question though. You say at the beginning that this problem is statically indeterminate, but why? When you solve for a statically determinate beam with sum of forces in y, and sum of moments about B you also obtain that the vertical reaction at B is 15 kN. Also, can't you say that the horizontal force is negligible, because the deflection is so small that the horizontal component of the applied forces is 0 because sin(very small angle) ~ 0 Anyway, thanks again for all your help, you're most of the reason imma pass my Mechanics of Materials exam tomorrow :D Stay awesome!
@climentea
@climentea 10 жыл бұрын
Can we use this superposition method for Statically Indeterminate Frames ? thx in advance :)
@sinakeshavarz9839
@sinakeshavarz9839 8 жыл бұрын
god thank you it was amazing.can you tell me how can i solve an indeterminate structure by using virtual work method?
@SohilShah_Melodyman
@SohilShah_Melodyman 3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful and very well explained!
@dellpi3911
@dellpi3911 3 жыл бұрын
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@stevenwong7715
@stevenwong7715 Жыл бұрын
love your explaination
@tw0million
@tw0million 10 жыл бұрын
I didn't follow the rationale for using shear equation [v(x)] for deflection at B. what should clue us in to use it? awesome video, thanks!
@X02switchblades
@X02switchblades 9 жыл бұрын
how do we calculate the formula in a problem where we have a couple at any point on a cantilever beam?
@ekarajprakobkit8406
@ekarajprakobkit8406 9 жыл бұрын
I Love This!
@iimaev
@iimaev Жыл бұрын
my god. this made so much sense
@hellbastard
@hellbastard 8 жыл бұрын
i wish u were my dad
@structurefree
@structurefree 8 жыл бұрын
Say what?!
@hellbastard
@hellbastard 8 жыл бұрын
i view you as a father figure
@structurefree
@structurefree 8 жыл бұрын
+Hhehehe Hhhehehehehe "No, I am your father" - Darth V.
@klarizespinosa5874
@klarizespinosa5874 8 жыл бұрын
+structurefree 😮 i knew it....
@romariomartin7683
@romariomartin7683 5 жыл бұрын
Can You Perhaps do an example of Statically determinate to the second degree , Would be really helpful, Thanks
@nurb4593
@nurb4593 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your help :) before I find your video I couldn’t understood anything :)
@dellpi3911
@dellpi3911 3 жыл бұрын
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@tuhinsuryachakraborty
@tuhinsuryachakraborty Жыл бұрын
In my university, we have a course named Advanced Engineering Mechanics in which they cover mostly 3D rigid body mechanics and advanced topics of Strength of Materials.
@soeinalbo913
@soeinalbo913 5 ай бұрын
cool story bro
@climentea
@climentea 10 жыл бұрын
What about Castigliano method for statically indeterminate frames ? how to solve a problem using that method
@vithyasoundarrajan9546
@vithyasoundarrajan9546 2 жыл бұрын
Which book u have referred?
@user-vi3pi9rf7w
@user-vi3pi9rf7w 3 жыл бұрын
I'm solving for a statically indeterminate shim (cylindrical disc fixed at center) stack This is really helpful.
@dellpi3911
@dellpi3911 3 жыл бұрын
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@user-vi3pi9rf7w
@user-vi3pi9rf7w 3 жыл бұрын
@@dellpi3911 thanx bro, could be a good reference, I've developed eqns by myself till now. simulations will definitely be helpful. But say something don't post just the link, that's sus you know. I thought it was self-promotion 👍
@structuralanalysis2790
@structuralanalysis2790 8 жыл бұрын
have you ever thought about doing a frame table matrix formulation for this problem? if I were doing a test, Am I allowed to bring it with me?
@structurefree
@structurefree 8 жыл бұрын
+Structural Analysis Not really. I don't know if you can bring it into a test, you should probably ask your instructor.
@rabingordon9226
@rabingordon9226 7 жыл бұрын
hey could you do question 7.2 from mechanics of engineering materials 2nd addition benham, crawford, armstrong using superposition I cant seem to get it right
@JackHeatly
@JackHeatly 9 жыл бұрын
how do you know when to use the equation of elastic curvature in these problems?
@structurefree
@structurefree 8 жыл бұрын
+Jack Heatly the equations of the elastic curve are just one approach to calculate deflections. it's up to you to choose the most convenient method of calculating deflections (e.g. moment area theorems, double integration, virtual work, castigliano's theorem, etc.)
@sunmichoi6888
@sunmichoi6888 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so so so much
@anilgowda4314
@anilgowda4314 8 жыл бұрын
how to approach for above beam when there is no concentrated load at point c and a moment acting at c...????
@cfgman1
@cfgman1 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent as usual...:)
@dellpi3911
@dellpi3911 3 жыл бұрын
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@perrkons
@perrkons Жыл бұрын
6:47 how did you get those formulas at the bottom?
@SimritSingh101
@SimritSingh101 10 жыл бұрын
you're a boss
@limkwerly8508
@limkwerly8508 3 жыл бұрын
Good day to structure-free, I had a situation of a shaft, simply supported by two bearings each for both sides (near to ends), with a single concentrated force in between this bearing which are (R1 _ R2 _ F1 _ R3 _ R4) , continuous with no discontinuity // I got messed up with the suitable calculations for determining the deflection, shear, moment as there are many methods out there from books and online // May I ask what type of methodology or maybe a suitable flow to obtain all these values for this situation? Or Is there any limitations where the Method of Superposition has its limitation when having a continuous beam with more than 2 degrees of indeterminacy? Thanyou to structure-free
@dellpi3911
@dellpi3911 3 жыл бұрын
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@structuralanalysis2790
@structuralanalysis2790 9 жыл бұрын
plus Slope(c)=-45 and Deflection,Y(c)=-108,solved by a 5x5 matrix.....
@structuralanalysis2790
@structuralanalysis2790 8 жыл бұрын
I have the ability to express the information in matrix form and I wonder if you would like to see how I do it, so maybe you make a video with ? . Thx
@structurefree
@structurefree 8 жыл бұрын
+Structural Analysis Thanks. I enjoy when people share what they learn with me!
@nicolef4552
@nicolef4552 3 жыл бұрын
What is the difference between delta b0p and delta 1, other than direction? More specifically, how do you know whether to use v(x) or delta x=L for each one?
@dellpi3911
@dellpi3911 3 жыл бұрын
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@JohanKustandi
@JohanKustandi 6 жыл бұрын
What to do if EI is not constant?
@petertruong3959
@petertruong3959 8 жыл бұрын
Hey I was wondering how different would these be if you were to use the equation PL/EA?
@tj001231
@tj001231 8 жыл бұрын
+Peter Truong PL/EA is for normal stresses P/A these deformations are for bending stresses (Mc/I) and shear stresses (VQ/It) so the answer is very different
@goalshd3595
@goalshd3595 6 жыл бұрын
I didn really get how did arrive to Delta(BOP) equation? it is really confusing.. can anyone help pls. thanks
@abdulmalekmakhdom8074
@abdulmalekmakhdom8074 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great videos. Would it be possible to tell me in detail how you got the bellow equations please? 1- dx = L = wL4 / 8EI , 2- V(x) = ((Px2)/(6EI))*(3L - X) , 3- dx = L = PL3 / 3EI I used here d instead of delta please. Thanks in advance.
@structurefree
@structurefree 8 жыл бұрын
+AbdulMalek Makhdom the equations for beam deflections were from a textbook. Most textbooks and engineering handbooks have equations for deflections for common loadings. You can also search and find on the internet. Thank you for the kind words.
@Nutmanjango
@Nutmanjango 8 жыл бұрын
+structurefree HI there. I have the table in the text book that says what the individual equations are. I don't see one for equation 2 though. It seems this is an equation which comes from the fact that the force does not act at B? How did you get this equation? Specifically why did it change from WL^3/3EI to ((Px2)/(6EI))*(3L - X) ??
@abigailabigail5727
@abigailabigail5727 6 жыл бұрын
Hi sir! Did you solve the same problem using double integration method? Anyways this was very helpful!!
@mohsinahmad9342
@mohsinahmad9342 5 жыл бұрын
no, he solved the primary beam with actual loading and then with unit value of load by using formulas from tables, other wise it would be very lenghty to solve this with double integration or conjugate beam methods :)
@marcapaulajos
@marcapaulajos 7 жыл бұрын
If you had let's say 4 redundant loads, does it just mean more equations?
@marcapaulajos
@marcapaulajos 7 жыл бұрын
The question is how far do you take it? Do you need to draw up every possible scenario for each redundant point?
@icwhatudont
@icwhatudont 10 жыл бұрын
you replace b with a force because that is the easiest to substitute. It could also be done at point A, but would be more laborious.
@Benza96
@Benza96 4 жыл бұрын
hello sir what if the pointload is applied just before the point where you want to find the magnitude of deflection do i then say 3L + X?
@Benza96
@Benza96 4 жыл бұрын
and if you don't mind can you please provide the link to the Beam-deflection table/chart that you used.
@structurefree
@structurefree 4 жыл бұрын
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@ssn8
@ssn8 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks sir
@renovatedmind
@renovatedmind 4 жыл бұрын
at 7:55 why is L 6 and not 9 since the force is acting at 9?
@Yvagne
@Yvagne 7 жыл бұрын
Hi, I just want to ask why is the number of equilibrium eqns is 3? :) thank you so much! Btw, great video and lecture! :)
@rezaulkarimarnob6238
@rezaulkarimarnob6238 5 жыл бұрын
Sum of forces in the x direction, sum of forces in the y direction and sum of moments about any point
@liamhood8965
@liamhood8965 2 жыл бұрын
This seems statically determinate. The reaction Ax is clearly zero, and then you could use equilibrium equations for the moment and y-forces to find reactions.
@structurefree
@structurefree 2 жыл бұрын
There are four unknowns and three equilibrium equations in this case. So it is statically indeterminate.
@Roo1717
@Roo1717 7 жыл бұрын
My professor is not letting us use the tables lol...
@naheeniqra9218
@naheeniqra9218 5 жыл бұрын
im so sorry
@mlynchj
@mlynchj 10 жыл бұрын
legend.
@ivancastro365
@ivancastro365 2 жыл бұрын
why is the middle value of the equivalency equation a V function and the other two delta???
@ivancastro365
@ivancastro365 2 жыл бұрын
~ 7:33
@shylildude
@shylildude 9 жыл бұрын
why did you choose By to be the redundant? why not Ay or Ax?
@structurefree
@structurefree 9 жыл бұрын
shylildude I chose By so that the "determinate" structure would be a cantilever, which is familiar and also has equations from various handbooks. You can choose Ay or M_A, but you would have to use your preferred method to calculate deflections for the determinate structure. Ax is known from sum of the forces in the horizontal direction, so it is not available as an option.
@roilamaerobles345
@roilamaerobles345 7 жыл бұрын
What's the difference between force method and method of superposition? Thanks in advance! :)
@structurefree
@structurefree 7 жыл бұрын
+Roila Mae Robles the force method applies the principle of superposition to breakdown statically indeterminate problems.
@roilamaerobles345
@roilamaerobles345 7 жыл бұрын
thank you so much!
@emreyuksel7586
@emreyuksel7586 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the video. I have a question about the deflection equation of By. How do we get that? Could you help me? I couldn't see such formula on the tables.
@dellpi3911
@dellpi3911 3 жыл бұрын
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@emreyuksel7586
@emreyuksel7586 3 жыл бұрын
@@dellpi3911 Thanks so much.
@Nephilim12340
@Nephilim12340 2 жыл бұрын
Was given a similar problem for redundant load and was taught none of this by my prof...... I’m so screwed in the real world
@shaikhmohsin9438
@shaikhmohsin9438 7 жыл бұрын
where the shear & bending dia ?
@shylildude
@shylildude 9 жыл бұрын
why is the deflection at 6m zero?
@structurefree
@structurefree 9 жыл бұрын
shylildude since there is a vertical support there restraining the beam.
@ItsEducateYourselfStupid
@ItsEducateYourselfStupid 4 жыл бұрын
Can you using the same question but for force method.?
@structurefree
@structurefree 4 жыл бұрын
the method of superposition is another name for the force method.
@ItsEducateYourselfStupid
@ItsEducateYourselfStupid 4 жыл бұрын
structurefree ouhh thank you!!
@KumarHemjeet
@KumarHemjeet 5 жыл бұрын
There is slightly mistake in case of 2nd deflection . There is moment at the redundant point too .
@TheMrgoodmanners
@TheMrgoodmanners 4 жыл бұрын
How did you find out that we needed 3 equilibrium equations
@dellpi3911
@dellpi3911 3 жыл бұрын
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@SaiTama-kf7lw
@SaiTama-kf7lw 3 жыл бұрын
the best
@dellpi3911
@dellpi3911 3 жыл бұрын
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@joshwozniak9692
@joshwozniak9692 7 ай бұрын
why was it necessary to do all that work to solve for By? couldn't you have just used the M about A to solve for By?
@pavlypoktor3486
@pavlypoktor3486 7 ай бұрын
why is the number of reactions 4? Shouldn't it be 6?
@structurefree
@structurefree 7 ай бұрын
3 at the fixed end and 1 at the roller
@dragonxhell
@dragonxhell 10 жыл бұрын
@tw0million @structurefree i also don't get why he use the v(x) either... my lecture use the Compatibility Conditions then find the equation for the redundant that he took out. Next step he just use the v(x) equation to find the what is the displacement EDIT: I know why now... the reason he use elastic curve equation v(x) for graph 2 because in the formula sheet there is a formula for a concentrated load P acting at the end of the cantilevered beam v= - Px^2/6EI (3L-x). where the other 2 (first and last) is acting @ 6m (it's not in the middle) so you can't use the v(x) equation if that make sense lol
@structurefree
@structurefree 10 жыл бұрын
I use lowercase v to represent a function for the deflected shape or elastic curve. In the compatibility equation, I am looking at the superposition of deflection at point B. In general, I use a capital V for internal shear force.
@AK-gt8zy
@AK-gt8zy 8 жыл бұрын
Since there is a support there, the deflection would be zero, which is why he added the sum of the 3 deflection pieces as being equal to zero.
@thornmtsetfwa1155
@thornmtsetfwa1155 Жыл бұрын
You made an error its 18 kN, I used method of forces and Morhs integral. 2x6 + 6 does not equal 15, the reaction should balance the loads 😅
@zheanchen2135
@zheanchen2135 7 жыл бұрын
Can you show the energy method to determine this question next time? Thank you!
@samuelarmistead8182
@samuelarmistead8182 6 жыл бұрын
Cant you just use sum of moments to find By, and sum of forces in the Y direction to find Ay, at the beginning to find the reaction forces? I did and got the right answer in like 30 seconds.
@samuelarmistead8182
@samuelarmistead8182 6 жыл бұрын
unless you were just using a simple example to illustrate your point. good video though
@michaelmolter6180
@michaelmolter6180 5 жыл бұрын
Where would the method of superposition not work?
@carultch
@carultch Жыл бұрын
If you were given a loading function that weren't in your table of reference functions, which is very uncommon. Another example you might see, is if the support weren't an idealized infinitely rigid support, but were instead a spring with a finite stiffness.
@NolanDodson
@NolanDodson 10 жыл бұрын
Stud
@JSSTyger
@JSSTyger 6 жыл бұрын
Before I watch....I got an upward reaction of 15KN at 6m, upward of 3KN at 0m, and a 0KNm moment at 0m.
@ismailsorba
@ismailsorba 5 жыл бұрын
not clear enough
@structurefree
@structurefree 5 жыл бұрын
😭
@zhiwang6885
@zhiwang6885 10 жыл бұрын
I don not know why V (6 m) = 0 0 = Subscript[V, ow] (6 m) + Subscript[V, op] (6 m) + Subscript[V, 1] (6 m) Is not there moment in fix support A? Why don not add moment in A
@sandeeptiwari2053
@sandeeptiwari2053 9 жыл бұрын
because at v(6m) it was roller support present orignally...and if its there ....then at v(6m) ther will be no deflection possible....
@crazyeyes4412
@crazyeyes4412 3 жыл бұрын
before you work for khan academy...
@Newbport849
@Newbport849 6 жыл бұрын
Why you gotta yell though.
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