Steam Deck Tear-Down: Build Quality, Disassembly, & VRM Analysis

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Our Valve Steam Deck tear-down and full disassembly shows all the parts, PCBs, cooling design, and talks about component-level details of the VRM and ICs.
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This tear-down of the Steam Deck talks about the battery, the fan and replacement fans (wasn’t easy to find!), heatsink design, screw placement, MOSFET, inductor, voltage regulator, and battery charging IC specs, and more. We’ll cover the VRM current capabilities in this as well, with a lesson on how they work and what they do (for anyone new to this stuff to get introduced). Our hardware review of the Steam Deck is already live on the channel and covered everything else, like battery life, but our focus here is “repairability,” access, overall build quality, and design details.
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Steam Deck Teardown & Component Analysis
01:24 - Walk Around of the Steam Deck
02:12 - Steam Deck vs. Switch vs. Switch OLED Comparison
02:53 - Opening Up the Steam Deck
06:00 - Basics of the Thermal Design (See Other Video)
12:17 - Explaining a VRM & Why It Matters
13:45 - Power Component Analysis
14:58 - Power Capabilities
16:15 - VRM Layout & Configuration
17:50 - Teaching Moment for These Parts
19:02 - Battery Charging Circuit Quality
20:56 - MORE TEAR-DOWN
22:10 - So Much Thermal Paste
24:40 - Cables & Connections
28:30 - Controller Boards
30:06 - Conclusion: Build Quality, Shortcomings, & Highlights
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Host, Test Lead, Writing: Steve Burke
Testing: Patrick Lathan
Research: Patrick Stone
Video: Andrew Coleman
Video Production: Keegan Gallick

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@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus 2 жыл бұрын
One correction: the 6A comment would be at a lower voltage (not at wall power), and therefore not a concern. That's our error from pushing through these two videos so fast. But you still shouldn't open your device and then touch stuff while it's running, period. If you missed it, we have a full hardware review of the Steam Deck on the channel already: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJa0eZKVjbuUbJY (WATCH THIS VIDEO for full details on thermal design, airflow design, power, gaming benchmarks, and more on the Valve Steam Deck) GN 3D Coaster Packs are now on back-order! store.gamersnexus.net/products/3d-coaster-pack-4-component-coasters Get an anti-static electronics GN ‘Volt’ Modmat, in stock and shipping NOW: store.gamersnexus.net/products/modmat-volt-large GN 10-piece Toolkits are IN STOCK & SHIPPING NOW: store.gamersnexus.net/products/gamersnexus-tear-down-toolkit We also went through the specs of the Steam Deck here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJzSnX6XopieoLc Watch our factory tour series: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hIK4Zp-BZ56VqJo
@robertlawrence9000
@robertlawrence9000 2 жыл бұрын
Please show more gameplay on the Steam Deck. I'm curious about how well various games play on it. Horizon Zero Dawn, Destiny, Halo, Fallout 4, Skyrim, Red Dead 2 and anymore you would be willing to show. I love the content. Thanks
@cannoobin
@cannoobin 2 жыл бұрын
what are you doing up stillllllll
@TheKillerStove
@TheKillerStove 2 жыл бұрын
@@robertlawrence9000 They can't do that yet, as its only the embargo on the hardware that's lifted. They can only play Control, DMCV, Dead Cells, Portal 2, and Forza right now as a means to show off how the hardware performs under different conditions. The software embargo lifts sometime in the next few weeks
@robertlawrence9000
@robertlawrence9000 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheKillerStove oh dang! Ok. I was wondering why they were showing only certain games only since it's been in people's hands.
@flimermithrandir
@flimermithrandir 2 жыл бұрын
@@robertlawrence9000 They arent allowed to yet because the System Software isnt finished yet. Its only working but VALVE said they need to wait (about) 2 more Weeks to finish it and be allowed to test/talk about it actually.
@justincredible5406
@justincredible5406 2 жыл бұрын
Valve are legends for encouraging independent reviewers.
@Verpal
@Verpal 2 жыл бұрын
Not only encouraging them, but actually sharing engineering document, not everyone are Beve Sturke who can afford the newest and flashiest testing equipment among KZbinr.
@nO_d3N1AL
@nO_d3N1AL 2 жыл бұрын
No reason not to when you have a good product
@papabones8753
@papabones8753 2 жыл бұрын
@@Verpal AND they want to sell replacement parts for it so you can repair your unit or have someone repair it without having some custom part only they could fix.
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus 2 жыл бұрын
Valve even shared some of its testing with us, which is incredibly rare. We normally find out one way or another, but sharing information allows everyone involved to do a better job
@kw9849
@kw9849 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like Valve is being congratulated here for things they should just be doing.
@Phosphor66
@Phosphor66 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like GN is the only media outlet who understands that thermal imaging is not always useful
@SSmitar
@SSmitar 2 жыл бұрын
I know right? No idea why other channels don't go deep on SOC, memory and other component temp itself. Seems like obvious superior testing method to me.
@CanIHasThisName
@CanIHasThisName 2 жыл бұрын
@@SSmitar Simply because that's not what they are specialising on.
@xentiment6581
@xentiment6581 2 жыл бұрын
@@SSmitar takes work and actual tehnical knowledge.
@Ghi102
@Ghi102 2 жыл бұрын
Well, Thermal Imaging can be useful in this specific case since it's a handheld, you can check if the device will be too hot in your hands.
@gorjy9610
@gorjy9610 2 жыл бұрын
Most users don't care about per IC temp. And it's not something they should care about at all.
@JerryRigEverything
@JerryRigEverything 2 жыл бұрын
This guy is like a smarter JerryRigEverything + hair.
@BurntFaceMan
@BurntFaceMan 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta love GN for the speed that they manage to put out such insane quality content.
@thomasmaier7053
@thomasmaier7053 2 жыл бұрын
What is sleep?
@whizadree
@whizadree 2 жыл бұрын
Well don't forget that they had months to prepare
@K71421
@K71421 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomasmaier7053 I feel that bro
@alexisrivera200xable
@alexisrivera200xable 2 жыл бұрын
@@whizadree Make that about two weeks at the most. You don't have that much time ahead even with preproduction units,the reason is the source. No company likes to have their unreleased hardware out in the wild for too long for security reasons plus its not just GN getting them so the chances of other folks breaking embargo early goes up significantly risking the company's carefully planned and expensive release arrangements and media coverage.
@chrinaldi
@chrinaldi 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomasmaier7053 It is said that the sheer disappointment from Gigabyte PSU exploding and NZXT H1 probably burn itself to death that fuels his energy. Or so I was told.
@RECE4ER
@RECE4ER 2 жыл бұрын
All the separate boards for different functions of the device, i.e. independent board for audio, independent boards for analog sticks, is absolutely fantastic. Super easy to replace a small daughterboard rather than the entire board like most devices these days. Way to go Valve!!
@PAcifisti
@PAcifisti 2 жыл бұрын
Was just thinking about that. If you break the audio jack it'll just mean replacing a small board instead of having to replace the entire motherboard.
@GoatedWithTheSause
@GoatedWithTheSause 2 жыл бұрын
And yet Type-C port is soldered to the main motherboard - 11:00. Charging ports get a lot of abuse and often go out first.
@wkcs007
@wkcs007 2 жыл бұрын
@@GoatedWithTheSause Hopefully that will be addressed in a future release...
@realhuman4396
@realhuman4396 2 жыл бұрын
on mobile the comment cuts down at “analog”… you can guess what it is
@oblivionshadow9453
@oblivionshadow9453 2 жыл бұрын
This can be a downside though if the user isn't experienced since it does not take much to break a ribbon cable or ribbon connector.
@omgawesomeomg
@omgawesomeomg 2 жыл бұрын
Valve said without the shield between the SSD and Wifi module there could be interference and they discouraged users from swapping the SSD. Would love for you guys to test this and see if swapping the SSD with a non-shielded one is actually problematic.
@BillCipher1337
@BillCipher1337 2 жыл бұрын
I think they are not allowed to test this until release. But i would be interrested too
@voxelfusion9894
@voxelfusion9894 2 жыл бұрын
It depends a lot on how carefully the ssd was engineered to avoid excessive RF radiation, which interferes with the other radio signals used to carry your wifi. It'll be highly dependent on the model of the ssd. Worst case you'll have no, or very slow wifi with a bad ssd.
@endykun
@endykun 2 жыл бұрын
It's going to depend on the model of SSD you used to replace it, and how carefully you managed to swap it, it's going to be very variable.
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus 2 жыл бұрын
Hearting because a lot of people are interested, but this is too variable and outside of our comfort zone to adequately test. We could do anecdotal stuff, but would prefer to avoid it.
@Pixelplanet5
@Pixelplanet5 2 жыл бұрын
@@hiyall15 that would be a one off scenario that doesnt tell you anything about the actual impact. you would need to test a lot of different SSD´s and also measure the power consumption of the wifi module at the same time to account for that the module could be using some extra power trying to compensate for the extra interference. And even then you still dont know if or how much interference there is as you are only looking at the end result without looking at anything in between like doing an actual spectral analysis of both the SSD and the wifi module.
@ZachDxn
@ZachDxn 2 жыл бұрын
You know Valve did a bangin job when Steve says "I'm impressed" more than once.
@fajaradi1223
@fajaradi1223 2 жыл бұрын
Impressive is way below acceptable
@ZachDxn
@ZachDxn 2 жыл бұрын
@@fajaradi1223 has Steve ever accepted anything though?
@SamuraiDeek
@SamuraiDeek 2 жыл бұрын
Patrick's explanation of the terms VRMs, MOSFETS, controllers, etc and their purpose in the Steam Deck or in the tech world overall was pristine. Steady, articulate and easy to digest. Thanks!
@KouroshFarrokhzad
@KouroshFarrokhzad 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like I'm back in school. This was so comprehensive and helpful. Big thanks to Patrick and GN - and please provide more of these kinds of in-depth explanations - I'm personally going to stay far, far away from 6A charging circuits!
@GoldSrc_
@GoldSrc_ 2 жыл бұрын
I dunno chief, it felt like he was just reading a brochure and not really explaining much.
@schellenbergenator
@schellenbergenator 2 жыл бұрын
My one criticism would be when he was talking about the charging circuit and he noted that because it can output 6 Amps, that makes it dangerous. Since we're dealing with relatively low voltages, talking about the max amp output, regarding safety, is pretty silly.
@GeckonCZ
@GeckonCZ 2 жыл бұрын
19:35 It's 6A at 25V max. With voltage potential that low, the thing is perfectly safe. Yes, it's the current flow through your body that's dangerous and 25A is plenty to kill you, but once you put the resistance of your body into the equation (Ohm's law, I=V/R), you will see that with a voltage that low and resistance that high, the current going through your body will never get anywhere near to the dangerous values. In fact, you won't even feel it.
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. You're right on that - we pushed the video through too fast and Stone recorded this after a long day, so I think he forgot he wasn't talking about wall power here and was working with a low voltage circuit. I should have caught that, so my fault for not correcting it. Thanks for the correction! I'm going to bed now!
@GeckonCZ
@GeckonCZ 2 жыл бұрын
@@yaldabaoth2 Glad to hear that. I'm an EE. Not sure if Stone is, so I'm not gonna comment on that part. I mean it's always better to make a comment like he did and make the engineers laugh, rather than to go in the other direction and make somebody feel overconfident.
@GeckonCZ
@GeckonCZ 2 жыл бұрын
@@GamersNexus Makes sense. After all, he has spent a lot of time working on PSUs lately. Love the content, keep up the good work!
@gorjy9610
@gorjy9610 2 жыл бұрын
@@GamersNexus it can't kill you but it's enough to burn through that PCB in seconds so warning is good even if point is wrong.
@jaywastaken
@jaywastaken 2 жыл бұрын
Just don’t lick it and you’re good.
@yaldabaoth2
@yaldabaoth2 2 жыл бұрын
8:46 I feel pure joy at this editing magic.
@TheDoomerBlox
@TheDoomerBlox 2 жыл бұрын
gachiGASM
@albertogarciaengineer3053
@albertogarciaengineer3053 2 жыл бұрын
Love that valve published a how to video on how to replace some components, makes this product more compelling.
@mjc0961
@mjc0961 2 жыл бұрын
Surely you're not talking about that garbage video they made where they claim that we're all too stupid to use a screwdriver and that the battery will kill us if we take the Steam Deck apart. 🤦‍♂️
@oKrikket
@oKrikket 2 жыл бұрын
If that video scared you off then you shouldn't open it up. IMO the video made it's point and if you still feel comfortable working on it then it's just a guide on how to open and replace components. They don't want any user-errors to come bite them in the ass so best to just scare stupid people off.
@All4Grogg
@All4Grogg 2 жыл бұрын
@@mjc0961 That video is lightyears ahead of their competitors within the right to repair space. That does deserve credit, also many, many people don't know how to use a screwdriver correctly or at least, as Steve also emphasized, using the correct screw is REALLY important with similar screws of different lengths. Shorting components using the wrong screw certainly has the potential of resulting in a Steam Brick. Taking it to a reputable repair shop really is a good idea and the part of right to repair that many seem to not recognize. This also reduces the amount of RMA work on a product that that likely is losing valve money at MSRP in the first place. Not that Valve can't afford it, but the general idea is to continue to build the on mountain of money they have.
@eternalinsignia
@eternalinsignia 2 жыл бұрын
@mjc0961 seriously if you think a lot of people know how to use screwdriver correctly, then you are freaking wrong. In electronic case especially, it is not rare people break screw mount from its plastic housing, this include heatsink (basically you just want stop when you feel enough tension, but the problem, which is enough ?).
@phillee2814
@phillee2814 2 жыл бұрын
@@All4Grogg Sadly, at usual LiPo charge cycle life, this is going to be a steam brick after about 18 months anyway with daily use since they've chosen to glue the battery in. 500 cycles is industry standard, although you can con any testers by only using the middle portion of the voltage range so that 500 cycles get used at something like 75% per charge, which might then stretch it to 2 years. Well, you may be able to use it as a wired device until the battery swells and busts up the internals, or worse, catches fire spectacularly (as LiPos have a tendency to do). So the most likely item to fail, and the one which fails most dangerously isn't replaceable, which makes any claim to observing "right to repair" a sick joke at best and an outright lie at worst. If that claim is made on any marketing material, expect the legal cases to start when the batteries start dying. Possibly very big cases if they don't fail safely but unplayable at all with a cut-off circuit.
@KontroldKaos
@KontroldKaos 2 жыл бұрын
A tear-down video at 4am? Yes, please!
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus 2 жыл бұрын
That's the best time!
@Jonathan.Boring
@Jonathan.Boring 2 жыл бұрын
@@GamersNexus yes!
@Herbrax212
@Herbrax212 2 жыл бұрын
5am for me! Insomnia gang rise up
@yuh42011
@yuh42011 2 жыл бұрын
2:28 am for me. WFH for life
@SRC267
@SRC267 2 жыл бұрын
@@GamersNexus but it's 10:30am?
@leotoro51
@leotoro51 2 жыл бұрын
31:42 Those scenes with very deep field of view are incredible ! I love it - it makes Steve looks almost cinematic ahahah ;) Good job camera man :)
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus 2 жыл бұрын
Andrew has been killing it in these Steam Deck videos!
@numa_kai
@numa_kai 2 жыл бұрын
i love how this looks very serviceable where if one board is damaged, you only replace that and not throw out everything. Simply beautiful
@SuperCloneRanger
@SuperCloneRanger 2 жыл бұрын
25:36 The foam will be conductive, its so the can is grounded without having to be physically attached.
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus 2 жыл бұрын
Good catch.
@BruhMeister993
@BruhMeister993 2 жыл бұрын
@KULON🔞 KZbin PLEASE fix this shit, you’re a billion dollar company 🤦‍♂️
@filonin2
@filonin2 2 жыл бұрын
@@BruhMeister993 What, you don't like lops or cold bodies?
@BruhMeister993
@BruhMeister993 2 жыл бұрын
@@filonin2 lmaooo
@joshua41175
@joshua41175 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/sKDCpqJ8fpaKjq8 in case you didn't know, you can mass report them now.
@quantumbits1952
@quantumbits1952 2 жыл бұрын
HIGH QUALITY CONTENT. This is the type of content that me and the community love to consume it's both educational and entertaining at the same time. I genuinely learnt and enjoyed watching your videos. Really appreciate the time and work that you and your team put into making these.
@alexhaywood3139
@alexhaywood3139 2 жыл бұрын
The charging ICs 85 degree rating is an ambient temperature rating. It says it can do 3.2W of dissipation at an ambient of 70C, then derating by 40mW/C over 70C. Tj shdn (shutdown junction temperature) is 165C and the default thermal regulation junction temperature (point at which the device throttles back the charge current) is 115C, configurable up to 130C.
@Gigator
@Gigator 2 жыл бұрын
Was looking for this comment, liked! The rush jobs showed here a bit. Still not something major for most people! :)
@ragzard
@ragzard 2 жыл бұрын
Stone's electronics class was extremely interesting and easy to grasp ever for me, a person with very low circuits knowledge. Loved it.
@doogdog6965
@doogdog6965 2 жыл бұрын
Engineer here, blown away at the depth and production value of this tear-down. This is far and away more credible than gaming media outlets!
@Saturdaymorninghero
@Saturdaymorninghero 2 жыл бұрын
dude, you guys always do a great job! Can't wait for more fan testing videos!
@ledizzy2634
@ledizzy2634 2 жыл бұрын
The section with Patrick was really really informative! As someone trying to pick this kind of stuff up, his explanation was absolutely brilliant! Thanks guys!
@Isamu27298
@Isamu27298 2 жыл бұрын
Its refreshing to see such a well designed product. Thank you for the insight into the internals guys
@kippert1987
@kippert1987 2 жыл бұрын
This is a really great breakdown! I really appreciate the run through of the various circuit board components too, that's really awesome the way Patrick explains it all! Thanks, GN team!
@senilestix
@senilestix 2 жыл бұрын
This is a real positive review for anyone new to this channel.. Infact it's a solid indorsement!!
@hifam6451
@hifam6451 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, this production is top notch. From the in-depth analysis, blue highlighting components...GN is without peer.
@sonorous6200
@sonorous6200 2 жыл бұрын
Probably my favorite tear-down video from you all, GN. Highlighting the daughter boards was great, going over the parts of the VRM with diagrams with great explanation...all terrific. Thanks!
@Mom19
@Mom19 2 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate all the deep dive information and hard work you guys put into the review of the Steam Deck, but make sure you get some rest aswell
@chloedegurechaff1941
@chloedegurechaff1941 2 жыл бұрын
I am thoroughly impressed with Valve here. This reminds me a lot of the Vita 1000. Easy and simple to take apart. I'll defiantly be looking forward to grabbing one of these. Keep it up Valve.
@Version135
@Version135 2 жыл бұрын
This makes me want to get my psp out again
@mightylink65
@mightylink65 2 жыл бұрын
7:30 "Remember to disconnect the battery as soon as possible!" _Uses screwdriver to show us how all the buttons click :3_
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, they're buttons. It's not like we were bridging contacts with the screwdriver
@EarlywineJC
@EarlywineJC 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the detail incorporated in this video. Special thank you to Patrick!
@SuperMikeKaos
@SuperMikeKaos 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely loved the level of detail on the internals…. Seriously mad respect from an old school tech here…
@HAunderscoreVE
@HAunderscoreVE 2 жыл бұрын
Okay i have to say the last scene of steve talking looks SO GOOD. the Depth of field, the lgihting, the scene, i love it. oh and the steam deck is aight, i guess.
@BaronVonBeef
@BaronVonBeef 2 жыл бұрын
The amount of power in that small PCB is really quite impressive, It wasn't THAT long ago that we were getting less from a full on desktop experience
@SlyNine
@SlyNine 2 жыл бұрын
It's just crazy how much information you can get with spot on methodology. Great job.
@zul448
@zul448 2 жыл бұрын
Man. GN is such a gem. Long before I will get my hands on my steam deck, I can watch your video to see the most detailed strip down of the hardware possible. Love you guys. Keep up the good work!
@jonumand
@jonumand 2 жыл бұрын
I love the extremely detailed videoes!
@RedBull10812
@RedBull10812 2 жыл бұрын
A software company ended up making some of the best HW devices, Valve Index and now this. While full out hardware oriented companies keep failing forever. I don't like gaming on consoles, joysticks or handheld devices but this one looks very promising!
@ultranova9599
@ultranova9599 2 жыл бұрын
I love how you plug the shop a lot. But all the stuff on there is actually so cool. ESPECIALLY those mats.
@UNVIRUSLETALE
@UNVIRUSLETALE 2 жыл бұрын
Can't imagine how much time this video took, amazing job gn team on this piece, you guys deserve 10x the subs you have
@VincentGroenewold
@VincentGroenewold 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like a really well repairable device, I really have to give huge credits to Valve here, I’d buy it just because of that almost.
@jnyc96
@jnyc96 2 жыл бұрын
Late night video release. Love the channel :*
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@someguy604
@someguy604 2 жыл бұрын
Just here to see what a pro had to say about the marvelous feats in a product like this. You guys clearly have a passion for this stuff and have succeeded in giving an average user a cross-eye with all the terminology that was used. thx
@aelaan12
@aelaan12 Жыл бұрын
Since I am not actually getting a Steam Deck I can appreciate the knowledge and show and tell of computing hardware. Thanks for putting this together.
@ripplerxeon
@ripplerxeon 2 жыл бұрын
As an electrical engineer I like how you guys are trying to explain it to normal viewers ... Great video ... Love the details ☺️
@thefunbuns1
@thefunbuns1 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for this APU tech to find its way to laptops
@StripesOO7
@StripesOO7 2 жыл бұрын
Really nice and impressive tear-down. Enjoyed every second for the commentary and just to be able to look at the internals
@silkmonkey
@silkmonkey 2 жыл бұрын
This is the kind of content that keeps my patreon money flowing - love the depth and explainers for what the tech specs actually mean. Between you guys and buildzoid I love how much tech I can learn.
@Enders
@Enders 2 жыл бұрын
Steve, I was glad to hear you take a stand on the battery situation at the end. The inability to easily replace batteries in most mobile devices in 2022 and before, has been a CLEAR and very HOSTILE move on the part of manufacturers and retailers in order to hijack the end user life of products.
@Chance57
@Chance57 2 жыл бұрын
I guess fitting comparatively larger batteries was a happy accident thanks to this batter conspiracy.
@smileysamh
@smileysamh 2 жыл бұрын
I am guessing this might have to wait to the second NDA date later this month but can you guys do testing on replacing the SSD and whether it affects power or interferes with the WiFi. Also if you can solve the interference with say tin foil etc. I feel like that would be very important to know whether you need to get an external hd/SSD in order to expand the steam deck other than the SD card slot.
@TheQuinn50
@TheQuinn50 2 жыл бұрын
This, I'm itching to try and fit a m.2 extender out of the back of it so I could use a full form factor m.2 nvme or even build a custom docking solution with a egpu
@smileysamh
@smileysamh 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheQuinn50 Yeah unfortunately I am pretty sure valve has already said it doesn't support egpu's. 2230 ssd's are quite rare. If there isn't any examples of people upgrading internal steam deck ssd's and working I will prob just buy a small and thin dock and a small usbc ssd and just tape it to the back - theres plenty of room for both. I saw a reply of another comment where gamers nexus said that he won't be testing internal ssd's as there are too many variiables and ssd's
@AH-hm2mq
@AH-hm2mq 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheQuinn50 egpu is impossible since the usbc port isn't thunderbolt
@TheQuinn50
@TheQuinn50 2 жыл бұрын
@@AH-hm2mq You can run a egpu through the m.2 port where the SSD is when you get it. Then you could just boot off the sd card or usb
@evancappe
@evancappe 2 жыл бұрын
I really love the depth of these pieces. Great work, GN. Thank you.
@lw8882
@lw8882 2 жыл бұрын
Love listening to Stone talk about electrical stuff. It's amazing to hear the expertise and knowledge coming from someone who's a good orator.
@nathanieltoia2015
@nathanieltoia2015 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like valve put in real effort for the steamdeck, good job valve.
@TheDZHEX
@TheDZHEX 2 жыл бұрын
5:50 kinda not happy that we didn't get to hear the cracking plastic sounds from pulling off the back after the screws and the video cuts to it already removed... the plastic snap things are really obnoxious as they often break, and the sound of them coming apart might actually indicate more about the build quality than one might expect. As well as the force required to get them apart.
@DxBlack
@DxBlack 2 жыл бұрын
They only break if you're not using the correct tools to remove them.
@davisbradford7438
@davisbradford7438 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes you need to slide the panel instead of just pulling it off.
@armyofninjas9055
@armyofninjas9055 2 жыл бұрын
I use guitar picks to pop in the tabs and stick a credit card in the gaps to keep it open.
@cinobro6393
@cinobro6393 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love the super in depth analysis videos!
@bigshacaca6932
@bigshacaca6932 2 жыл бұрын
Man the level of depth is insane. Mad respect. I usually go LTT for the general Info looks like GN is my new must watch too.
@haythemsnakos3056
@haythemsnakos3056 2 жыл бұрын
GN is the GOAT of hardware reviews. This guy needs more recognition, hopefully he can reach 10M subs soon.
@cybervoid8442
@cybervoid8442 2 жыл бұрын
It's funny people all over twitter are quoting the latency numbers you posted even though you said they don't mean much in this context 🤣
@TomasPiliponis
@TomasPiliponis 2 жыл бұрын
at 24:37 - it is so satisfying how GPU fan on Steve's t-shirt reflects directly on the SoC... :)
@jessekimmel9148
@jessekimmel9148 2 жыл бұрын
I am a fan of the dude running through the chips in detail. Very thorough. Good job 👍
@dustojnikhummer
@dustojnikhummer 2 жыл бұрын
I really hope you test replacement M.2 2230 SSDs, like Kioxia BG4. Valve's "concern" is wifi interference and power draw.
@MiraSmit
@MiraSmit 2 жыл бұрын
Came here to ask for this.
@nebulous962
@nebulous962 2 жыл бұрын
I hope someone makes a modified case for steam deck so you can install bigger m.2 ssds and removable battery.
@Cherijo78
@Cherijo78 2 жыл бұрын
I really don't see much point in doing this. I'm sure there will be simple external addons that will be much simpler to use and will transfer data plenty fast. Early testing just off the SD card seems to indicate even that should be "good enough" for most games.
@MiraSmit
@MiraSmit 2 жыл бұрын
@@Cherijo78 Some of us would like to know since it can be cheaper to bue the cheapest steam deck and then buy an M.2 2230 for fast and more storage that the official steam deck for instance.
@mRibbons
@mRibbons 2 жыл бұрын
Why is your livestrong bracelet plugged into the tablecloth?
@contra1124
@contra1124 2 жыл бұрын
rofl
@Wait4Shadow
@Wait4Shadow 2 жыл бұрын
This is amazingly high quality content. I won't pretend to know half of what's being shown here, but the mere fact that viewers get to see this pulled apart and openly discussed is fantastic.
@bwjclego
@bwjclego 2 жыл бұрын
I'm happy for all this in-depth Deck content, because after several years of watching GN, this is the first product you've reviewed that I actually plan on buying. (PC needs upgrades eventually, but not yet).
@Zanpaa
@Zanpaa 2 жыл бұрын
It looks like most of the complexity is because of size and packaging reasons, and not obscure/bad design or trying to block users from servicing it. That's really good. The cynic in me tells me this looks very complex and if they do a next version, everything will be glued down for cost savings...
@wickersticks
@wickersticks 2 жыл бұрын
I don't actually believe that gluing stuff down saves much money tbh.
@VitalVampyr
@VitalVampyr 2 жыл бұрын
@@wickersticks Sure it does. To glue two things together you just need smear some glue and press them together. To screw them together you need to add screw holes, put screws in the holes, and turn the screws (making sure not to apply too much or too little torque). More steps and more precision needed = more cost. Of course if you want to account for the cost of disassembling and reassembling the product even once screws are probably cheaper.
@totalsubmition
@totalsubmition 2 жыл бұрын
Sleep doesn't exist in the world of GN.
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, I have a nice couch in the office now!
@Jonathan.Boring
@Jonathan.Boring 2 жыл бұрын
@@GamersNexus LOL. Gonna assume y’all didn’t schedule this uploaded. Published it when you could probably.
@kojack57
@kojack57 2 жыл бұрын
Seriously impressive work from the people who assembled this and the people who disassembled it. No where to hide these days. Thank Christ for YT and GN.
@daspferd7810
@daspferd7810 2 жыл бұрын
You're awesome, guys. Thank you so much for this review and showing all the technical stuff of things in depth. You're one of a kind 🤗
@ShadowRune
@ShadowRune 2 жыл бұрын
When valve actually decides to do something they usually do it well, the problem is actually getting through the internal problems they create for themselves to actually get a product from design to launch
@danieljones9937
@danieljones9937 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to buy one of these but the glued-in battery makes it a no-no for me. :( Hopefully they'll do something about that.
@supergeekjay
@supergeekjay Жыл бұрын
That isn't really a deal breaker. If you need to replace the battery, simply discharge it to 25% so that the energy stored isn't too high, and then gently heat it with a heatgun, moving evenly over it, not focusing in one spot too long. A few seconds and the battery will lift out. Heck, it's easier to get apart than an iPhone, and I remember when they were easy, back in iPhone 2 days!
@sntslilhlpr6601
@sntslilhlpr6601 2 жыл бұрын
Love how technical you guys are. Also love the EE with a Southern accent but I digress. You guys do stuff other channels don't, and this is a prime example. Thanks for doing what you do. I feel like I'm living in the future.
@quiCksilvieZzz
@quiCksilvieZzz 2 жыл бұрын
Just woke up and having coffee, such a perfect timing for the upload. Cheers GN for your fast and comprehensive tear down!
@Mastershake59982
@Mastershake59982 2 жыл бұрын
I was going to pass on the steam deck. After this video I'm about to order one. Thanks to the entire GN staff. You guys are rock stars.
@romano5785
@romano5785 2 жыл бұрын
I knew the Steam Deck was gonna be a hit when Linus got his hands on it for the first time.
@gonun69
@gonun69 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like there's a lot of "wasted" space in the two ergonomic hand bump thingies. I wonder if they could have put some extra batteries or a swappable SSD in there. Would be interesting to see some 3rd party backplate and triggers that reduce those bumps to make the whole thing a lot thinner.
@VitalVampyr
@VitalVampyr 2 жыл бұрын
That's pretty normal for controller handles. It's really not as much space as it might look, consider the structural reinforcement and clearance for the buttons and triggers.
@Chance57
@Chance57 2 жыл бұрын
Making it less ergonomic, more flat like a switch, is a hard sell. Perhaps they didn't stuff the handles because it looks like they made a concerted effort to keep those sections of the deck the most cool to the touch.
@enditakamweneshe6428
@enditakamweneshe6428 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing how far technology has come, and to think that this small thing does more than just gaming, definitely worth the price.
@CanIHasThisName
@CanIHasThisName 2 жыл бұрын
Will watch the whole vid when I have more time but dang, the set at the very end is awesome. Very atmospheric.
@ajtechtalks
@ajtechtalks 2 жыл бұрын
austin evans nintendo fingerprint looking kinda sus
@robitherascal
@robitherascal 2 жыл бұрын
Haha I thought I was the only one who noticed!
@CasualHerb
@CasualHerb 2 жыл бұрын
Real shame about the battery, it will probably need to be replaced within 2 years of somewhat heavy use, if you wish to retain those 2-6h of game time.
@martindescoteaux9288
@martindescoteaux9288 2 жыл бұрын
And do you know how much cost that batery? Tx
@pagatryx5451
@pagatryx5451 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like that's to be expected without some large jump in cost. As long as it's fairly user friendly in buying and replacing the battery, I don't mind it.
@CasualHerb
@CasualHerb 2 жыл бұрын
@@pagatryx5451 that's what's shameful about it, that it's not easily replaceable, but glued in.
@pagatryx5451
@pagatryx5451 2 жыл бұрын
@@CasualHerb Could just be the preproduction units. Hopefully that gets changed. But yeah, not looking good.
@pagatryx5451
@pagatryx5451 2 жыл бұрын
@@CasualHerb Could just be the preproduction units. Hopefully that gets changed. But yeah, not looking good.
@byron_00
@byron_00 2 жыл бұрын
This is easily the best hardware tear down video I've ever watched.
@Y0G0FU
@Y0G0FU 2 жыл бұрын
This is some impressive build quality. Valve really suprised me here :D Also amazing content guys!
@Gil3344
@Gil3344 2 жыл бұрын
For electronics engineering students, Patrick's bit was incredibly interesting!
@supra107
@supra107 2 жыл бұрын
Oh no, Steve opened up the Steam Deck by himself, now he's surely gonna die as Valve has stated! :D
@benhall7574
@benhall7574 2 жыл бұрын
This is such an awesome and in depth video, thanks for making this y'all!
@darkmanure
@darkmanure 2 жыл бұрын
Really liking some of the changes, especially the segment where GN teaches us about the components.
@austindavis2103
@austindavis2103 2 жыл бұрын
Go to bed GN
@Jonathan.Boring
@Jonathan.Boring 2 жыл бұрын
Gn
@prla5400
@prla5400 2 жыл бұрын
When Steve's friends say GN, they don't mean good night
2 жыл бұрын
Valve being smart with chozing who gets to do hardware and software reviews. LTT doing games GN doing hardware
@SRC267
@SRC267 2 жыл бұрын
Man said "chozing"
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus 2 жыл бұрын
That isn't how it worked at all. We had the same restrictions, which was "no showing the user interface." We did games as well -- it's in the first video.
@xzaz2
@xzaz2 2 жыл бұрын
@@GamersNexus This feels like a review, LTT feels like a ad.
@prla5400
@prla5400 2 жыл бұрын
@@xzaz2 every LTT vid Also I'm chozing this device when it's in my country (India)
@kippert1987
@kippert1987 2 жыл бұрын
I think gn and ltt definitely have two different audience types. Ltt is somewhat more commercial in many senses but they have really great content. Gn has a much more scientific and data driven approach. I really enjoy both tbh and I'm glad that both exist.
@martinshiveral6604
@martinshiveral6604 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Steve - thanks for the detail here! Getting excited for the release later this month.
@Gevorian
@Gevorian 2 жыл бұрын
always love the depth of detail and analysis in your videos, keep up the good work guys
@Jonathan.Boring
@Jonathan.Boring 2 жыл бұрын
I just reported 13 bot comments 💀. This is worse than tiktok.
@prla5400
@prla5400 2 жыл бұрын
Yep
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus 2 жыл бұрын
It is so bad. Trying to keep up.
@Jonathan.Boring
@Jonathan.Boring 2 жыл бұрын
@@GamersNexus also hello. First time watching any of your vids in a few months. Happy to be back 🥰
@MobileDecay
@MobileDecay 2 жыл бұрын
I think I reported 5.
@TheRealFlott
@TheRealFlott 2 жыл бұрын
I just reported at least 30! Damn it KZbin.
@robitherascal
@robitherascal 2 жыл бұрын
Um, Is it just me or does Austin Evan’s “finger print” look more like a…? Never mind.
@GaveLJorgensson
@GaveLJorgensson 2 жыл бұрын
Well done! Thanks, Stone for the tech talk!
@ajlainez1944
@ajlainez1944 2 жыл бұрын
This isn’t my first time viewing this Channel by any means but honestly it always impresses me how educational and how well put together these videos are. The quality of the videos are also always increasing great job to you and your whole team really a great channel.
@jamsea794
@jamsea794 2 жыл бұрын
*Modern man is not the man who goes off to discover himself, his secrets, and his hidden truth; he is a man who tries to invest himself in something beneficial for the future.*
@theresawagar4524
@theresawagar4524 2 жыл бұрын
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@theresawagar4524
@theresawagar4524 2 жыл бұрын
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@theresawagar4524
@theresawagar4524 2 жыл бұрын
@Jean Cross 👍 Thanks you so much for the details
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@craigblack520 2 жыл бұрын
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@budthecyborg4575
@budthecyborg4575 2 жыл бұрын
So now that Gabe got this mid life crisis "I wanna be a console manufacturer" thing out of his system... Can we have Half Life 3 now?
@Daschickenify
@Daschickenify 2 жыл бұрын
Project borealis is working on half life 3. There hasn’t been a recent update though, so I’m not too confident in them.
@RTDragonCommando
@RTDragonCommando 2 жыл бұрын
Content like this sells me or turns me off a product way more than ads ever could. If I was in the market for a handheld right now I'd be all over the Steam Deck now. It just seems so well built and thought out.
@davinhunt7558
@davinhunt7558 2 жыл бұрын
I love the depth of the analysis
@Frytech
@Frytech 2 жыл бұрын
You know what looks kinda disappointing? Really hard access to a display, it seems like you need to disassemble everything in case you have a cracked screen and want to replace it. That’s looks like a big oversight. And I’d argue that displays are being cracked even more often than the battery degrades, or joysticks/fan breaks, so it’s kinda weird to see the display being so inaccessible.
@Big_Mike53
@Big_Mike53 2 жыл бұрын
First
@prla5400
@prla5400 2 жыл бұрын
No, I'm first
@michaelthompson9798
@michaelthompson9798 2 жыл бұрын
Michael was 1st according to KZbin 🥰👍🏆
@Big_Mike53
@Big_Mike53 2 жыл бұрын
HI MOM!
@connor040606
@connor040606 2 жыл бұрын
Man, this level of depth is why I love this channel!
@exar7000
@exar7000 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mr. Stone, very informative! That was awesome!
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