Just ordered this with rock scales titanium milled scales.
@jeffhicks8428 Жыл бұрын
"edge retention" is not hardness. Not even close. What most knife bros mean when they say "edge retention" is actually ABRASION RESISTANCE. Which is a known quality of steel, it's also probably the least important quality of them all, including corrosion resistance. Knife bros love to hyper focus on it and wrongly call it "edge retention" which is something else entirely, something more complex and multi factorial, thus takes more than your average knife bros room temperature IQ will allow them to grasp. The reason knife bros are so foolishly over obsessed with "edge retention" is because they literally don't know how to sharpen a knife, so they think they might find a magical steel that won'; need to be sharpened. Unfortunate for them that's not how the real world actually works anywhere other than inside the mind of a little boy manchild brain. Actual Edge Retention is a combination multiple factors including hardness, toughness, abrasion resistance and even corrosion resistance, because guess what? Edges are delicate and yes even corrosion can dull a keen edge. You want something that is hard enough to resist rolling, which is one form of inclusion, or chip, which is edge failure. Hard to retain an edge if you don't have one anymore huh? So you can see there is more to "edge retention" durr than just abrasion resistance. As for hardness and it's relationship to abrasion, they are marginally correlated but its a myth that they are the same. Sorry but maxamet in it's annealed soft state will still have a lot more abrasion resistance and thus be harder to grind or sharpen than a basic carbon steel would have when it's fully hard. Anyone that has actually put knives on stones will know this just practically speaking. Now if you have the same exact steel the harder it is the more it will resist abrasion, but this is marginal compared to the difference of one type of steel, like a basic non alloyed carbon steel, even at extremely high hardness, vs a high alloy/carbide steel. Because it's the carbides, the type and the quantity, that are giving the matrix most of it's abrasion resistance not the hardness of the matrix. The hardness is relevant for other reasons and yes it's very relevant. The two most important things in a knife steel for most cases are probably hardness and toughness, which is what you need to make a thin knife that will stay sharp even after it loses edge keeness and keep cutting without breaking or edge failure.
@_BLANK_BLANK2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. People made sharpening maxamet seem a lot worse than it is. My k390 seems harder to sharpen than maxamet. I've even seen m390 that seemed to take more time to sharpen.
@thomashorvat97302 жыл бұрын
I live close to ocean in Ireland, despite obviously salty particles, if keeping maxamet well maintained and lubricated with Balinstol oil all time, should I still expect problems or these are mitigated with well maintenance? I love my Sage in Maxamet and I'm sincerely hoping maintenance would suffice in keeping this blade spot on. Don't mind patina developing over time
@Luke-pb4pc2 жыл бұрын
Should be fine just patina
@kirbyjoe748422 күн бұрын
You will have to constantly upkeep it and it still might have minor issues. Why would you choose such a poorly suited steel for you environment? Are you cutting cardboard 24/7? Salt + moisture is an absolute nightmare for any steel with corrosion issues.
@false-set2 жыл бұрын
I domnot know where blade hq get the information for their charts... apparently they have m390 and s90v as same edge retention? No shot.
@jolness13 жыл бұрын
I like the patina.
@justinwolf46143 жыл бұрын
Nice mods I did basically the same a few months ago to a para 2 in Maxamet with also flytanium backspacer in purple ti. Love the stonewash on the flytanium ti scales
@adwaithphilipgeorge77353 жыл бұрын
Great video bud!! Curious, what oil do you use to maintain your maxamet? And do you think there is any other steel that's comes close to maxamet in edge retention but is resistant to rusting?
@waltv6385 Жыл бұрын
Try s110v
@FPSNovaS3 жыл бұрын
High speed steel isn’t referring to knife style cutting. It’s referring to use as a tool on a lathe or a milling machine. So like 500rpm being plunged into a peace of steel around .150” or so and resisting the heat and chatter as well as the pressure in the cut. Hence the high speed name. 500rpm is a bit fast for a HSS cutter tho...
@these7seas3 жыл бұрын
Yeah after doing a bit more research saw that. Thanks for letting me know 👍🏻
@jessejames14442 жыл бұрын
Has nothing to do with rpm. Has more to do with surface footage. Rpm depends on tool diameter. High speed came from the steels being able to cut faster than just normal high carbon that machinists used to use like 80 years ago.
@dexxfilmАй бұрын
For people who want a steel similar to Maxamet in edge retention but not vulnerable to corrosion, try s110v. Stainless and has great edge retention.
@campervan66683 жыл бұрын
would like to add to my collection MAXAMET. currently have P3 and PM2 ... but which model to choose? like them both. Maybe PM2, like, to have more MAXAMET?) or P3?
@these7seas3 жыл бұрын
I’ve had both models and for my everyday carry needs the PM3 is all around perfect. But the PM2 is also a perfect knife so if you want more Maxamet, go with the PM2 for sure!
@Jayro4403 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information. I have a paramilitary 2 on the way in maxamat and I was thinking that I might need to return it due to some of the negatives I read based on what you have to say I think I’m going to keep it and try it out. I don’t have very much experience sharpening my knives aside from kitchen knives. You mentioned the sharpmaker. Is there any specific stones or grit that you would also recommend for sharpening this knife or anything in s35 vn. Thanks again for the video.
@these7seas3 жыл бұрын
Yes I was hesitant as well based on what I heard but after carrying and using Maxamet, I’m so glad I did. It’s ultra sharp, not as hard to sharpen as I thought, and not as fragile either. It’s kept sharp the longest by far than any other knife in my rotation. Maxamet is some magical stuff. For the sharpmaker, I used the standard rods it came with.
@ToxicityAssured3 жыл бұрын
You've probably seen me commenting on a lot of your videos. Just trying to boost the views! I really like your channel. Thanks for taking the time to record and post.
@these7seas3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your interaction and watching my vids!
@NK-wy8wp3 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome
@jonol80493 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel, great video! PM 3 is a favorite edc of mine, been debating with my wallet wether to step up to the maxamet. Looking forward to further posts.
@these7seas3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking out my vids! Yeah I think for everyday use, the normal Para 3 is more than capable. I chose the maxmet cuz I wanted something a lil different and I do love a good patina!
@newhuskytwenty Жыл бұрын
Get a K390 blade, man, practically the same but cheaper. Even try with more affordable FRN scales models, as an Endela, Delica or Butterfly for EDC.
@barkingspider20073 жыл бұрын
Had some chipping with maxamet. picked up a pm2 in k390. hope the k390 is a good pick. thanks again for the video 😎👍
@these7seas3 жыл бұрын
Your welcome! Mine was interesting cuz I didn’t get any chips per say. I dropped the knife on concrete twice and it kinda chipped but after I sharpened it via my sharpmaker, there were no chips or issues.
@idiotchimkensandwich2 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend the Maxamet or the S45VN?
@dylanemeraldgrey3 жыл бұрын
Good talk. Pro tip: never cut toward the family jewels! Yes, it's funny. But don't do it!
@these7seas3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha appreciate for looking out!
@jkn2k3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your video, greetings from Mexico , enjoying my PM2 Maxamet
@these7seas3 жыл бұрын
Good to hear!!
@HEBI.RAIDEN2 жыл бұрын
Very good steel, I have Native 5 Lightweight CTS Maxamet and I love it.
@EDCandLace6 ай бұрын
Crucible makes maxamet not carpenter... CPM-MAXAMET
@joshualepre69932 ай бұрын
@@EDCandLaceCarpenter makes Maxamet, a quick Google search should confirm that for you.
@SmilingIslander3 жыл бұрын
Highly recommend. anything to do with knifes he is the man
@these7seas3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha appreciate it bro!
@carlosreyes0373 жыл бұрын
Hey man I was just wondering on how you got that sick patina. Was it forced or did it just develop naturally. Anyways I hope you continue making awesome content that goes into these types of topics. Stay Safe
@these7seas3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it! Patina was developed naturally as I used it to do food prep, stir coffee, ect. I love a good patina and Maxamet is a patina monster!
@rctrue3 жыл бұрын
@@these7seas do you have any Rex45 bro? Takes the best patina ive seen
@DavidNefelimSlayer3 жыл бұрын
Excellent illustration of hardness through plasticity.
@dhesnutz41063 жыл бұрын
Hey man, great knife. I have the same model. I know patina is great but I would still clean and lube your blade a little.
@these7seas3 жыл бұрын
Yeah most definitely, thanks for looking out!
@armenarakelian98763 жыл бұрын
Can you send me all the links I want to build one identical, your knife is gorgeous 🙏🏻
@these7seas3 жыл бұрын
Flytanium Titanium Stonewashed Scales: www.flytanium.com/item/569/Titanium-Scales-for-Spyderco-Para3 BladesWeLove Bronze Titanium Body and Pivot Screws and Lanyard Tube: www.ebay.com/itm/NO-KNIFE-Titanium-Screw-or-Screw-Tube-Plug-sets-for-Spyderco-Para-3-c223gp-/184073632913?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286
@AK-xu5sj11 ай бұрын
I live on the coast in a rainy area. Definitely not a Maxamet or K390 friendly area of the country.
@HaxionChannel Жыл бұрын
Down to earth review. I love it. Thank you for the insights.
@these7seas Жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking out my vid!
@kevinh.57933 жыл бұрын
Another excellent video broski!
@these7seas3 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@Greg-bz2bf3 жыл бұрын
Nice mods. Thanks for sharing
@stevenrichardson49282 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your video. Q: Where on the Blade HQ website is this chart posted? Do they chart many other steels? Thanks again.
@tj-kv6vr9 ай бұрын
tht blade could use some mineral oil, to stop staining
@mcbrite2 жыл бұрын
Toughness isn't so bad... I've seen dudes hack at hardwood, cut hard plastic and Aluminum (!!!) with no damage, just some minor loss in sharpness...
@benjaminkim76933 жыл бұрын
Ive had my eyes on maxamet for awhile but havnt pulled the trigger, closest I have to it would be K390 and love it! Still want one not sure in what model tho.
@these7seas3 жыл бұрын
I recommend either the Sage or the Para 3. I think they provide a small footprint that cuts weigh above their weight in terms of cutting power and ergos. K390 is super intriguing to me. I wonder how both compares to each other.
@benjaminkim76933 жыл бұрын
@@these7seas sage most definitely, would like to take advantage of go rc with better edge geo behind the edge. But you should try K390 according to tests that ive seen online two are very comparable with edge retention. But toughness and strength is where they differ.
@these7seas3 жыл бұрын
Does K390 have better toughness than Maxamet?
@benjaminkim76933 жыл бұрын
@@these7seas I believe it does, just lower hrc
@these7seas3 жыл бұрын
That makes sense
@boogboog80972 жыл бұрын
Toughness is dubious there is a video guy throws one of these at a concrete floor blade snaps right at the hole, VG10 would have rolled at most
@desertfoxxx982 жыл бұрын
VG 10 would've snapped as well.
@Jmon808 Жыл бұрын
That guy sounds like a dumbass. why would you throw your knife at a concrete floor and where can I find the video to see for myself ?
@808DC2R2 жыл бұрын
Is that blade with the black style coating? How did that hold up?
@these7seas2 жыл бұрын
No this is uncoates Maxamet. The dark spots you see is the natural forming patina that happens with use
@tallica4life813 жыл бұрын
I went with k390
@these7seas3 жыл бұрын
NIce. Better than Maxamet?
@tallica4life813 жыл бұрын
these7seas I couldn’t tell you. I don’t own max
@barkingspider20073 жыл бұрын
Had some chipping with maxamet. Picked up a PM2 in K390. Hope the K390 is a good pick.
@tallica4life813 жыл бұрын
@@barkingspider2007 I like it. I snapped the tip off mine in 2 days by dropping it on the floor though. I had it reground and reshaped also had it acid stonewashed looks good and has a lot less danty tip that’s still much more acute than any of my other knives
@jsan8742 жыл бұрын
So does that mean maxamet turns dark everyime?
@these7seas2 жыл бұрын
Not every time but more often so you just need to take care of it a little more. Honestly it’s not as bad as it seems.
@harisyoung41103 жыл бұрын
i have pm2 in s30v and often use it to skinning and foodprep deer when out hunting.. what steel will suit for this job, maxamet or k390 ?
@these7seas3 жыл бұрын
I’d say between the two, K390 would be better suited cuz I heard it’s tougher and more chip resistant than Maxamet. Both will still patina and corrode since it’s a tool steel. As long as you take care of it, no problem.
@dustinwhitt52973 жыл бұрын
Get you a benchmade altitude in s90v. Lightweight fixed blade that's highly corrosion resistant while keeping an amazing edge.
@harisyoung41103 жыл бұрын
@@dustinwhitt5297 At this time im not into a fixed blade type, i more into folding or flipper.. and i like pm2 or pm3 style blade shape because i feel comfort using it, my current pm2 blade shape make me feel easy to guide and glide through thick skin when i skinning the animal. im just looking for other blade steel that can last a bit longer than my s30v.
@MDM19922 жыл бұрын
@@harisyoung4110 skinning deer is tough on any steels edge, I can almost guarantee you that if you get better edge retention, it will chip and damage the edge extremely easy the moment you hit some bone, and then your out with your damaged knife without the necessary diamond sharpening stones and compounds to fix it, your far better off carrying a tougher blade with lower hardness along with a dc4 (or similar) and a small strop pre loaded with compound. You can always strop that tougher steel back to New in a few swipes, maxamet with a massive chip in however you can't. Edge retention is far from the most important trait and for skinning large game personally I'd say it has no place. If I were to take something like maxamet hunting I would literally be so concerned about it getting damaged on bone I would need to take a spare knife in a different steel that I can trust to hold up to anything and strop back in no time, and at that point why bother taking it at all.
@lmonkeybonezl3 жыл бұрын
Good vid man.
@these7seas3 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated
@paolopinkel63443 жыл бұрын
Hi, did you say the edge roled? Not chipped?
@these7seas3 жыл бұрын
Yeah the edge rolled which surprised me because this stuff is super chippy based on specs
@paolopinkel63443 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the response, wow I can't believe it, I think about a para 3 in maxamet, now I buy one. Thank you from Germany
@these7seas3 жыл бұрын
It’s a steel that’s on the next level for sure 👍🏻
@AYellowPepper3 жыл бұрын
I think it really depends on if you can sharpen and how well. If you can, i think you shouldnt go for maximum edgeretention but rather a good balance of maintainability/edge retention. If you get your knives sharpend from someone else, i think maxamet is a good investment
@these7seas3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the response!
@eyesintheskies Жыл бұрын
Be careful with the maxamet, I snapped mine trying to gently pry an arrow out of a soft pine board. (ltwas a cold night) It does hold an edge for a ridiculous amount of time and gets scary sharp just brittle, had this exact knife and do miss it but you have to treat it careful. Sure you know this just don’t forget it!
@jeffhicks8428 Жыл бұрын
You are the reason every EDC knife on the market is 59-60 rc made of s35vn and looks like a sharpened pry bar.
@francorui24933 жыл бұрын
Great video , can you please help and tell me where did you buy that handle and screw -lplease best regards
@these7seas3 жыл бұрын
See my response to the previous comment. I provide the links
@Medevah3 жыл бұрын
Maxamet is S110V, without the corrosion resistance.
@Treeguy-ny6vb3 жыл бұрын
No
@alexanderbell49762 жыл бұрын
@@Treeguy-ny6vb Just curious why? I'm kinda new to super steels, but also would really like to know which steels do you prefer the most?
@herofx28813 жыл бұрын
so scared about rust
@these7seas3 жыл бұрын
In my experience it’s been pretty good. No rust so far. I just wipe it down regularly after use. It’s a patina monster tho!
@donkeyblue30943 жыл бұрын
Maxamet sucks for pocket knives or any outdoor knife.
@drewsfjord3 жыл бұрын
Hey man, What do you use to keep your blades sharp?
@these7seas3 жыл бұрын
I use a good ole tried and true Spyderco Sharpmaker. Nothing special but gets the job done 100%