Steering Dampers Explained-Do You Need One on Your Bike? | MC Garage

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@linelevelmedia7357
@linelevelmedia7357 4 жыл бұрын
3 years later and this series is STILL the best information on KZbin. Thanks y'all!
@augustusmageto7435
@augustusmageto7435 2 жыл бұрын
I watched it and never installed one. I regret as I am nursing wounds now.
@AjarnSpencer
@AjarnSpencer Жыл бұрын
I just found this channel but this explanation is supreme indeed. Very clear and informative no BS
@LaganYtPr
@LaganYtPr 3 ай бұрын
you talkin about 3 years later, im here 7years later dude
@Crossfader_bro
@Crossfader_bro 2 ай бұрын
Same ^^
@twayland6186
@twayland6186 7 жыл бұрын
I installed one on my unicycle and love it
@cajunmandick2985
@cajunmandick2985 4 жыл бұрын
Yep mine needed one too, I love it!?
@dragking9735
@dragking9735 4 жыл бұрын
i think the rider needed one and not the unicycle itself
@tylerhenrich
@tylerhenrich 4 жыл бұрын
QUESTION- I live in Canada and I ride in a temp range of 5 degree Celsius all the way up to 35+ (41 and 95F ish) and I have a HyperPro RCS on an 07’ YZFR6 Raven. I find that the temperature GREATLY effects my dampener. Is this normal? Has anyone else experienced this? (I do prefer a stiffer feel, personal preference) Thanks.
@InnerCityGarage
@InnerCityGarage 3 жыл бұрын
@@tylerhenrich oil in the strut will change viscosity at different temperatures. So yes temperature is causing the change in feel.
@thegoldenrooster8376
@thegoldenrooster8376 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@claudebaron9525
@claudebaron9525 3 жыл бұрын
I would advised anyone that if you don’t have one stock on your bike, you should definitely put one, and believe me or not, the video here showing a race bike having a tank slapper, this was a little tiny one, I’ve experienced way more drastic one, on any sportbike it’s not you should, it’s you have to get one, and even on the big cruiser it’s often a necessity, one of my friend had a Harley FLH X , the kinda bike where you sit as comfortable as a Elran living-room sofas, and guess what she was constantly complaining her bike was always wobbly ( witch is how start a tank slapper, in Quebec, Canada, we have ( I think ) the worst potholes in the worlds, and a very long time ago, I hit one with a Ninja 750, and it tank slapp so hard that I couldn’t even hold on the handlebars, everything was like I was a moving earthquake, until I took a chance and when the try to grabbed it back but when they fly so fast in front of your eyes you can even just see them, anyway I was lucky but when I finally stop the bike, I was stunned, my gas tank was dented on both sides, the handlebars was flying so hard and fast that they hit both sides on the gas tank, since then and that was in 1989/1990 , I had a steering damper on every of my bike, just think if it save you just one time, ( and that’s gonna be way more than that ) how much this crash would costs you to repaired it, and that’s without talking of you hitting the grounds, because often on a real tank slapper the rider even gets ejected, it really doesn’t take a genius to understand, you have to have one, stock from company are not the best, but at least it’s one, but to get a real one you shouldn’t hesitate. 👍👍👍
@drmurda
@drmurda 7 жыл бұрын
My Dampener has literally saved my life on multiple occasions. It's 100% needed if you're an aggressive rider. ZX10r #bikelife
@joaosoares3719
@joaosoares3719 7 жыл бұрын
*damper
@bikelife1389
@bikelife1389 5 жыл бұрын
If your talking about the generation 1 zx10r then I know your pain mate 😂😂😂 maddest bike I ever ridden for slaps
@mistergsxr465
@mistergsxr465 5 жыл бұрын
Same dude this invention is revolutionary and life saving
@pistonheater
@pistonheater 4 жыл бұрын
Please Advice .. Do I Need Steering DAMPER,, I have KTM DUKE390 it hits top of 175 KmPH,, i know its so much ?? As the Bike Weight is very less (160Kg) as compared to its power ,, and Aerodynamics are also not so good ,, so WIND BLAST make the Bike wobbles on high Speed .. Thanks in ADVANCE
@TÜRK_ALP
@TÜRK_ALP 4 жыл бұрын
@The Underground Man so is it better to accelerate more in this situation? Cheers
@HeroRR
@HeroRR 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Ari, Fellow Cape codder here ;) I have a question I'd like to see you make a video on and that's different headlights. HID's vs LED vs stock bulbs, etc. Advantages, disadvantages of each, etc. Such as lower voltage draw from LED. Thanks a bunch for all your free videos that are priceless to us fellow riders! :)
@markanthonybaldovino9945
@markanthonybaldovino9945 2 жыл бұрын
Installed one on my lawnmower , best mod ever
@AirMiloTakManis
@AirMiloTakManis 7 жыл бұрын
Talk about the advantages and disadvantages of frame sliders
@danishard1322
@danishard1322 7 жыл бұрын
AXMT advantage: less fairy damage Disadvantage: cosmetically less appealing Saved them a vid
@DearMajesty
@DearMajesty 7 жыл бұрын
Here's my opinion: Pros - They can save your fairings and other parts in slides or tip-overs/drops. Cons - They can also destroy your bike since they stick out further and are more likely to "catch" on dirt or other uneven surfaces, especially at higher speeds. Since frame sliders protrude the motorcycle, they also give the ground more leverage to "pull" on your engine/frame bolts in a crash, which can literally mean cracked engines or bent/cracked frames. Another negative is that some require you to cut holes through your fairings. Other info....I like frame sliders that aren't directly mounted onto the bolts which they attach to. While they do give more leverage, they secondary mount is usually designed to break off in a major impact, which limits damage and means easier replacement.
@Dowent
@Dowent 7 жыл бұрын
Well, I have around 20 crashes on my bike w/o frame sliders and that fact has saved it several time. When the fairings are in contact with the ground, the friction is much greater and the bike stops faster, hopefully before it encounters an obstacle or something that would send it spinning. Of course, if your frame isn´t strong, or if you have things sticking out (indicators and exhaust, most often), than sliders might save a lot of money, in the end, you are the one that has to decide.
@levihorman5531
@levihorman5531 7 жыл бұрын
That makes no sense, your comment is rhetorical. If HE HADNT hit the guard rail the frame sliders would have prevented a lot of damaged that would have happened, and it doesn't matter how nice your set of sliders are, slider are sliders, they're meant to be ground down,. Sliders are 10x cheaper than fairings, so that was a stupid statement. You cant say oh he would have better off buying this, because this happened. Well, we cant predict the future, so you have to take safeguards, and steps to prevent awful mishaps. Frame sliders 9/10 times will save your bike rather than damage it.
@mnsoans
@mnsoans 7 жыл бұрын
I hear frame sliders save your bikes fairing from tip overs or low speed crashes. But during high speed crashes they can hook into the ground and pull on your frame, damaging the bikes frame, bolts and stuff. They can also hook into the ground and send your bike flipping over violently into a roll in the case of a high speed crash. Without frame sliders in a high speed crash, your bike would just slide on it's side till it came to a stop or hit something. So would you rather completely destroy your bike with frame sliders on during a high speed crash? Or would you prefer to just get the mirrors, indicators, brake/clutch levers and fairing destroyed without the use of frame sliders in a high speed crash?
@sportstours24
@sportstours24 Жыл бұрын
I had only one wobble in my life. That was ten years ago on a 150 cc Yamaha FZ. It happened at a speed of around 40, when I hit the edge of a road from outside at a low angle. So these are not limited just to high speeds or high performance bikes. I couldn't control it, because I tried to increase my grip on the handle, and let go of the throttle. Never faced it again in the last decade despite riding fast on all kinds of roads, including under construction ones, for more than 200,000 km.
@MitEclipse91
@MitEclipse91 4 жыл бұрын
I ride a 2017 Zx10r and for the first time in my life last weekend I had tank slap at 110 mph for about 5 seconds... it was the worst 5 seconds of my life... I did NOT wreck due to the Kawasaki steering dampener! Kawasaki literally saved my life... thank you so much
@MisterMbkNitro
@MisterMbkNitro 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you made it James!
@defxed
@defxed Жыл бұрын
After learning how to use my damper, if you plan on doing any aggressive riding or highway riding, it's a must
@draft5809
@draft5809 7 жыл бұрын
"Steering dampers are not necessary on cruisers" meanwhile the harley death wobble
@HalfdeadRider
@HalfdeadRider 7 жыл бұрын
Exactlt what I thought.
@froztking7339
@froztking7339 7 жыл бұрын
Lol Vulcan, shadow, theyre cruisers and dont have the Harley wobble, haha. its a Harley thing from poor manufacturing.
@k10thp50
@k10thp50 7 жыл бұрын
the harley wobble is from a shitty frame and outdated engineering
@TRocksGarage777
@TRocksGarage777 7 жыл бұрын
sad but true
@philtripe
@philtripe 7 жыл бұрын
i dont wave to naked squids...i just glare at you
@N75911_
@N75911_ 5 жыл бұрын
I just got a CBR600RR, I've never encountered a steering damper before, since this is my first ever street legal motorcycle, but I have to say that I really like it so far. On the highway, the bike is very stable, and the damper gives me as much control as I really need, frankly.
@qdllc
@qdllc 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I never bothered with them...thinking I didn't really ride in a way to need one. Got a new bike that had one. Had a bit of road debris BREAK both wheels at highway speed. That steering damper really helped me to maintain control as I stumbled to a stop.
@muddshshshark
@muddshshshark 7 жыл бұрын
Many Goldwings and other bikes had bad slow or high speed wobble and guys would put braces on them to fix the problem. Many times the real problem was saggy fork springs. This caused the fork geometry to go steep and resulted in the shopping cart syndrome..Just replace the springs and fork oil for best performance and if your too cheap a spacer on top of the spring will lift the bike back up.
@simonferguson-avery6214
@simonferguson-avery6214 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks I am new to motorcycle and this information is great
@Quinney84
@Quinney84 7 жыл бұрын
aluisious was going to like but see its on 46 ;)
@mevalevergas861
@mevalevergas861 6 жыл бұрын
Im new also can i just bail out amd roll it out on the road ?
@54wins
@54wins 5 жыл бұрын
Look up the guy who slid under a semi truck on a freeway. You can see how quick and violent front wheel wobble can be. Lower power bikes have less of a problem with the front wheel coming off the ground.
@nathandennis998
@nathandennis998 6 жыл бұрын
Worn braking discs create wobble and numb hands too. In case you watched video and ruled out bearings, headstem, wheels and other factors bike isn't stable straight. I like your video.
@stevenscribani5514
@stevenscribani5514 7 жыл бұрын
A video on the effects of front and rear suspension adjustments would be very interesting!
@noreworks
@noreworks 7 жыл бұрын
*sees footage* well if this is a streering damper ad I'm sold.
@gavindinsmore3432
@gavindinsmore3432 7 жыл бұрын
Piggyback ECU (PCV) vs Flashed ECU. I think that would make a good episode of MC Garage.
@PNW_Sportbike_Life
@PNW_Sportbike_Life 7 жыл бұрын
PCV is much better because it covers more variables than a flash and new maps can be installed whenever you want. PCV is superior to a MCU flash all day long.
@MrSamdabeast
@MrSamdabeast 5 жыл бұрын
@@PNW_Sportbike_Life no lol
@rayhan4502
@rayhan4502 8 ай бұрын
@@PNW_Sportbike_Life no lol
@RT22-pb2pp
@RT22-pb2pp 6 ай бұрын
Yes more power before more safety, please sign organ donor card. 99% of street riders cannot fully use 600 bikes stock power you need morecslills not more hp. Smh at another squid
@rayhan4502
@rayhan4502 6 ай бұрын
@@RT22-pb2pp shouldn't people happy they get more organ donor?
@dominikgoluch6559
@dominikgoluch6559 7 жыл бұрын
i am new to motorcycles i recently got a dirt bike and i was curious what each part does and how it works. the videos are very helpful
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
Great video guys - clearly explained, nice one - keep up the good work. All the best - TMF
@tonypate9174
@tonypate9174 6 жыл бұрын
And then we have the MURRAY WALKER WOBBLE AND WEAVE upload from a place and time far far away still to be found in the deep dark uncool corners of You Tube .
@TheSpeedKing
@TheSpeedKing 3 жыл бұрын
MT 09 guys watching: I am not negotiating
@carolinayamadawg8706
@carolinayamadawg8706 2 жыл бұрын
agreed
@socialising6037
@socialising6037 2 жыл бұрын
Would it be pointless if I put one on my mt07? Are they for more powerful bikes? Thanks
@carolinayamadawg8706
@carolinayamadawg8706 2 жыл бұрын
@@socialising6037 honestly its good peace of mind on any bike they are all in danger of tank slapper
@Impervium1090
@Impervium1090 2 жыл бұрын
@@socialising6037 do you just ride it on the street? then no. If on the track and/or the twisties a lot, then go for it.
@ethansimpson4606
@ethansimpson4606 2 жыл бұрын
Yes the wobble comes at like 90mph every single time lol ima get one at some point
@Senditwithshan
@Senditwithshan 7 жыл бұрын
talk about hard break ins vs soft break ins!
@IanOcampoPodRider2016
@IanOcampoPodRider2016 7 жыл бұрын
Shannon Kholm also talk about why Honda engines do not have a break in period (as our local dealership claimed)
@Quinney84
@Quinney84 7 жыл бұрын
Pod Rider break in periods where for older bikes and then continued to "cover their ass" with modern.
@jeffslade1892
@jeffslade1892 7 жыл бұрын
Hard break in is for precision assembly like race engines where the components are tested and often run in on the bench. Honda and other japanese do run their engines in on the bench, but that does not mean you can thrash it straight out of the box, the engine still needs to loosen up. That must be done gradually. If the manufacturer says run it in at limited revs for the first so-many miles then do that or you *will* wreck the engine. It's not only the piston but all the bearings in the motor and gearbox. Worst case scenario, broken piston, least case egg-shaped bearings. Too many riders have no mechanical knowledge whatsoever. Same goes for dealers, their job is to sell bikes, they're not engineers - Do not believe dealerships. Before riding your brand new bike, read the _ing manual.
@CockatooDude
@CockatooDude 7 жыл бұрын
+Jeff Slade You can run the bike hard (and you should) straight from zero miles provided you warm the engine first. A hard break in with frequent oil changes for a few hundred miles is the best way to get optimal performance out of your engine. Just watch JakeTheGardenSnake's video on the subject.
@CockatooDude
@CockatooDude 7 жыл бұрын
+Jeff Slade I do not think you are unreasonable, however given the precision these engines are made with these days, wouldn't that make the "let it loosen in" argument moot? It would also make sense for the manufacturers to tell the consumer to run the engine in easy because of insurance reasons, so they don't wreck the bike straight away.
@ducman748996
@ducman748996 7 жыл бұрын
So true! After somehow surviving my first tank slapper I went home and ordered a Ohlins kit for my Duc and never rode a bike without one again. Seriously.
@davidcrosby8000
@davidcrosby8000 7 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say, i watch your short informative videos all the time! learned so much! Thanks, and keep em coming man!
@lesfox2010
@lesfox2010 7 жыл бұрын
Can still remember my old Kawa 500 triple (the original one) going around a tight sweeping bend two up at 80 mph giving a nice high speed wobble... soon learned how much wobble was getting too much and back off a touch, but got used to it. It had a steering damper too. It was a c**t of a bike to ride really.
@jdslfc
@jdslfc 7 жыл бұрын
Is there a way to save it when the wobble starts?
@Rez944
@Rez944 7 жыл бұрын
yes can someone explain how to react to a situation like that ?
@WogrinMotorsport
@WogrinMotorsport 7 жыл бұрын
When in doubt, throttle out.
@SmallSpoonBrigade
@SmallSpoonBrigade 7 жыл бұрын
Possibly, but I suspect that it depends a bit on the cause. In any case, don't panic as either you can save it, in which case panicking doesn't help. Or, you're going down, in which case panicking won't help. The only time I've ever had a wobble was when I was on the freeway going over a series of tar snakes. In that case, I just eased off on the throttle a little bit and the wobble went away. I didn't know these things were so feared, it was kind like, gee my handlebars are wobbling back and forth violently, let's ease up a bit on the throttle and get that front end back on the ground properly.
@philtripe
@philtripe 7 жыл бұрын
smoothly let off the gas and engine brake...its generally speed related so if you just slow down it usually goes away...then you fix the problem like to soft of springs or old fork oil and just a cheap fork like KYB will bounce around like a pogo stick...dump the junk and get showa marzocchi or ohlins if you want to have a great handling bike...steering dampers are a copout and dont make the bike handle great the just make it so it wont kill you
@SHUJINCELL
@SHUJINCELL 7 жыл бұрын
Depends on how fast you're going, how low/high of gear you're in , what caused you to lose balance (i.e. uneven surface), what's around you, and what type of bike you're on. If you're in low gear accelerating, getting on the throttle will most likely stop it. If at high speed and high gear, ease off and the bike will correct itself as the front wheel gets lighter.
@tripham3535
@tripham3535 7 жыл бұрын
I ACTUALLY LIKE THIS CHANNEL A LOT!!!
@nllommertnl
@nllommertnl 7 жыл бұрын
how to readjust a carb and now its done correctly?
@stamlight4
@stamlight4 7 жыл бұрын
just change the main jet. brown. black spark plug= to much fuel, white spark plug= to much air, brownspark plug = perfect air and fuel mixture
@oarkko
@oarkko 7 жыл бұрын
theswedishnoob wont work anymore. Old gas had lead in it to color the sparkplug. You need very very very lean mif ti have white sparkplug
@nllommertnl
@nllommertnl 7 жыл бұрын
@aluisious but you would still have to manually adjust it if you have carbs right? does the kit give instructions on that?
@AuMechanic
@AuMechanic 7 жыл бұрын
First thing is you learn how they work.
@nllommertnl
@nllommertnl 7 жыл бұрын
+I make and fix stuff damn I wish I was as smart as you :o.... i am asking to be thought how they work you dumbass
@wheeltrouble
@wheeltrouble 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid. After riding for 2 decades, I've NEVER used a damper, and really never saw the need. Matter of fact, the one time I borrowed a bike with one, I hated it (we were trail riding in a forest). This explains the problems I was having with it.
@georgek8182
@georgek8182 2 жыл бұрын
No one gives a fck about you
@TheJackman88
@TheJackman88 7 жыл бұрын
Wow, this has made me realise i might actually need a steering dampner... Never really tought about it before. Light to medium front end wobble happens quite often for me (bumpy roads+high lean angles will do that apperently :-P) guess I'll add it too my wishlist! Thanks MC garage!
@craneflaw2019
@craneflaw2019 7 жыл бұрын
Pål Haughem "damper"
@d1sturb3d119
@d1sturb3d119 7 жыл бұрын
As Ari amd aluisious mentioned don't use it as a bandaid. Set the sag on your bike correctly. The damper should work well with it together.
@enematwatson1357
@enematwatson1357 6 жыл бұрын
aluisious You have it backwards. Less sag - > higher front end - > greater rake angle - > longer trail.
@wharpig
@wharpig 3 жыл бұрын
Recently got a Z900 and was surprised it didn't come with one. My 09 600rr had one stock and after hitting a 2x4 in the highway at 75mph it made me realize that steering dampers indeed work. Guess I'll be ordering one for my new bike.
@Illness.og.
@Illness.og. Жыл бұрын
Most bikes don't come with steering dampers. Especially naked bikes. Which is wild as naked bikes feel more susceptible to it. I too came from riding a cbr600rr. Different in stability on high speeds is night and day with a damper.
@AJHDuk
@AJHDuk 7 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough I've been considering this the past month on my MT09(FZ09) but unsure if I can really justify it... whenever I rip the throttle I get an unstable front mainly because the front lifts up slightly , so it's nothing serious but I'd like to get rid of that movement as the other day I hit a pothole at an angle while doing some moderate speed... I can only say it wasn't pleasant
@Kcducttaper1
@Kcducttaper1 7 жыл бұрын
I see tons of theories about how to stop a tank slapper. Some say engine brake; some say hit the throttle; some say lean forward; some say lean back, etc.... It would be really awesome to see a proper study where a tank slapper could be initiated and have the rider try various methods to test their effectiveness.
@hamzashetranjiwala3885
@hamzashetranjiwala3885 7 жыл бұрын
Hey! Could you guys do a video on spark plugs? Like what are the types and how they affect your bike?
@Shane661
@Shane661 3 жыл бұрын
A steering damper is not something you need until you need it. And in that moment, you REALLY need it.
@movingforward6099
@movingforward6099 7 жыл бұрын
hey whats up ! wonderin if you could explain whats going on during the break in period on new bikes? Just bought a new 2015 kawasaki concours left over. real good price! Had to keep it under 4000 rpms for 500 miles, and 6000 rpms till 1000 miles. think i know whats going on but would be cool to here it from you. always look forward to new vids from mc garage! Cheers !!
@ThisIsTheInternet
@ThisIsTheInternet 7 жыл бұрын
Setting the piston rings.
@movingforward6099
@movingforward6099 7 жыл бұрын
Ari Henning thanks! Can't wait !!
@IanOcampoPodRider2016
@IanOcampoPodRider2016 7 жыл бұрын
Ari Henning I hope hard and soft break ins are in that future vid :)
@abnx9670
@abnx9670 7 жыл бұрын
Good call, I"m curious on that one as well.
@jeffslade1892
@jeffslade1892 7 жыл бұрын
See my post above. If you thrash it you will wreck the engine. Do follow the instructions in the owners manual to the letter. Any engine takes a while to loosen up, it must be done gradually. Once it is run in then you can do the hard break in. Common failure thrashing a new engine is broken piston rings. You can easily drive bearings oval too. You might easily do 1000 miles in a weekend ;) First service is generally chuck the running-in oil away - take a look at it, it will be filthy with debris from the engine.
@fady04
@fady04 7 жыл бұрын
found this video on right time. yesterday i was thinking what era these things and why they are for. now informed. thanks
@pattyjay9999
@pattyjay9999 5 жыл бұрын
I put a GPR on my ZX14R It works very well keeps the beast straight as an arrow😜
@annabanna666
@annabanna666 7 жыл бұрын
best series on the tube . learn so much everytime .
@ntme9
@ntme9 7 жыл бұрын
Had a tank slapper at 165 at texas world speedway with a stock steering dampener on a k6gsxr1000, it was so violent that it forced the brake caliper pistons out leaving me with no breaks into turn one. Almost pooped my pants... Luckily I didnt reck and installed an ohlin adjustable asap
@LostCloudx4
@LostCloudx4 7 жыл бұрын
Vids or GTFO, Check my vid on my page of my slapper haha
@michael-mv3de
@michael-mv3de 7 жыл бұрын
The stock gsxr dampers are a joke.
@jeffslade1892
@jeffslade1892 7 жыл бұрын
"Brown trousers" ;)
@adamutuber
@adamutuber 7 жыл бұрын
I had the exact same thing happen to me. And the 90 degree corner I was going into is called Crash Corner. Took 3 pumps before the brakes engaged. Only made the corner because I backed off after the tank slap but still braked on my usual marker.
@footballlgnd2
@footballlgnd2 6 жыл бұрын
Took out your rear brake too?
@Yoda8945
@Yoda8945 3 жыл бұрын
Every BMW motorcycle I have 1967, 1976 and 2003, plus the 2014 I had, and my BSA Royal Star all come with steering dampers. All motorcycles have a resonant frequency that will induce a tank slapper. If BMW thought they could cut some costs by not installing dampers, I am certain that they would do just that.
@MRSLAV
@MRSLAV 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for information, christopher waltz.
@terencedsouza2885
@terencedsouza2885 5 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@damon2692
@damon2692 4 жыл бұрын
He looks more like schumacher tbh,,,,
@АнтониоКрстевски-ч7ы
@АнтониоКрстевски-ч7ы 3 жыл бұрын
hmmm, i wasnt expecting you here!
@AjarnSpencer
@AjarnSpencer Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this clear explanation Man! I have had three slappers on three rides on three different biikes (ducati scram nightshift, honda cb 650 four cylinder, and a ducati cafe racer). Ducatis definitely need these anti tank slapper dampers. And i definitely do as i ride 180 kmh on an island full of bumps
@shiftlofi
@shiftlofi 5 жыл бұрын
An important note is that a damper does not prevent a tank slapper at all, it just makes it more difficult to happen. The cause of death wobble is gripping the bars too tightly and you need to address this prior to adding hardware to your bike.
@fuadolf
@fuadolf 7 жыл бұрын
Should I fix one on my Ducati Monster 1200?
@bikerbobcat
@bikerbobcat 7 жыл бұрын
I've always wondered what that thing was in videos! Thanks for this very helpful explanation. My cruiser only did the slappy thing once, with an unintended jump off some bad pavement at a railroad crossing. Unintended because I wanted to jump off the crossing some 30 yards later. Oops.
@DarkVarda
@DarkVarda 7 жыл бұрын
Bobcat Arts lol
@johannestd00
@johannestd00 7 жыл бұрын
Hey, what would happen if you acctidently kickstart your bike while it's running?
@asavamedhi
@asavamedhi 7 жыл бұрын
I think it would be interesting to cover high flow air filters as well as after markets exhaust and how they may require a power commander to work properly.
@Oliver-jv5ww
@Oliver-jv5ww 3 жыл бұрын
so are steering dampers really necessary? ive had some pretty intense speed wobbles before, they all start as if im about do die but then i relax my arms and they go away immediately..
@Oliver-jv5ww
@Oliver-jv5ww 3 жыл бұрын
@@251rmartin true
@johnlyee3169
@johnlyee3169 5 жыл бұрын
Just change my tires recently, and the bike feels like steering much lighter than before, i got a gsxr600 w/ new diablo rosso3
@chadpunte1731
@chadpunte1731 5 жыл бұрын
That's probably tire pressure over anything else.
@rolandosantaana8200
@rolandosantaana8200 4 жыл бұрын
Nice!! Check for 60s or 70s series it affects the way bike turns in!! I'm pretty sure your bike comes with 120/70 on 17s
@tomasnilsson1669
@tomasnilsson1669 7 жыл бұрын
Regarding topic suggestions: I would like an eposide about engine mapping. I have a fair bit of knowledge about it but just have a nice run through to refer to when I simply dont have the energy or time to explain it to someone. Why it is there, what heppens when it is off, when to get it adjusted and what they do. Perhaps a few shots of a dyno run, things that are clear when you see it in pictures but when one describe it in words takes forever. Thanks for some of the best content out there!
@SHUJINCELL
@SHUJINCELL 7 жыл бұрын
Dope video as always! My only disappointment with the zx6r is how Kawasaki removed it entirely but kept the MSRP the same. Because of it, the 16'/17' ZX10R felt like the "better value" from factory since spec wise you get more for your money. Seem as the 10 is the better buy cause with the zx6, you get less bike and less features for 'more' money, comparatively speaking to the older zx6 which included the damper from factory.
@filipbunalti
@filipbunalti 7 жыл бұрын
Also wheelies... when the front comes down, it will almost certainly give you a tankslapper if the tire isn't perfectly inline with the bike.
@samuelmark6
@samuelmark6 5 жыл бұрын
Can I use steering damper for my katana 750cc 1994?
@badasshuh69
@badasshuh69 5 жыл бұрын
Man keep it stock 💪💪💪
@louieg5766
@louieg5766 4 жыл бұрын
Yes you must install one in case your flying on your extremely super fast Katana men those Katanas are too damn fast and get another damper for rear wheel 🎡
@ThreenaddiesRexMegistus
@ThreenaddiesRexMegistus 5 жыл бұрын
Had a decent tank-slapper recently on my Honda Super-4 1300 at 80mph: normally a very stable bike. . A magpie flew into my shoulder and visor and started a violent oscillation. Thought I was going to drop it and it was like being slugged with a baseball , bruise stuck around for a week or so.. Fitting them on all my bikes now - just finishing an installation on my T140 Bonneville today. Nice explanation , great video!👍🏻
@sparky5543
@sparky5543 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, the green ninja in the background... can I have it? :) I don't see anyone else asking, so figured I would give it a try :)
@merciador
@merciador 6 жыл бұрын
Discuss slipping the forks through the top yolk to improve "stance" kinda rolls nicely on from steering dampers. A lot of people don't realise the pro/ cons of this mod and it's effect of steering geometry/ rake.
@Rzkjr
@Rzkjr 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Ari can you shed some light on cornering? Maybe make a three episode video for starters, intermediate and advanced riders :) thanks a lot fam
@u9Nails
@u9Nails 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Sportbikes having "chicken stripes" on the tires is usually deserving a badge of shame. But, is every millimeter of rubber supposed to come in contact with the road? How far can I really lean a Sportbike over on public streets!? And how does rider position affect cornering, and when does it become useful to lean off the bike in a corner?
@tonypate9174
@tonypate9174 6 жыл бұрын
In slow out fast a good starting point working up to balls to wall ride the wheels off it ! can take many years
@estebanod
@estebanod 6 ай бұрын
Have a xj6, got a tank slapper death wobble thingy yesterday, def gonna look for one
@zacharias9243
@zacharias9243 5 жыл бұрын
are you related to Jeff Cavalier?
@j3xy342
@j3xy342 5 жыл бұрын
Random Guy they dont even look alike or even have the same last name...
@The0nlyy
@The0nlyy 5 жыл бұрын
Moto-lean-X here!
@j3xy342
@j3xy342 5 жыл бұрын
Ram Iyer lol true
@zacharias9243
@zacharias9243 5 жыл бұрын
J3xY they do look a like dickhead
@zacharias9243
@zacharias9243 5 жыл бұрын
Ram Iyer yeah fucktard
@ashten92
@ashten92 3 жыл бұрын
Explained very well,i have a Ducati Pentigale V-4 with a sacs steering dampaner, it's works amazingly well and interviens pefectly when the front end gets twitchy. It's definitely confidence inspiring.
@lolblah8903
@lolblah8903 7 жыл бұрын
Cam Chain and cam chain tensioner
@hooahayes
@hooahayes 7 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love these videos. Layman's terms explanations that a newb like myself can understand on relevant topics, that don't focus on selling products you don't need. MC Garage, please keep this up.
@levkranchevko1432
@levkranchevko1432 4 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile back in my country, every single 150cc rider install em even on a moped 🗿🗿
@markusantonio4866
@markusantonio4866 3 жыл бұрын
So we should put one on a child’s tricycle.
@surgfish
@surgfish 5 жыл бұрын
You hit my problem head -on, I just purchased an ohlins steering damper for my hypermotard, which costs an arm and a leg only to be told by my mechanic that I really really need to change my tires which has already "squared off", now its 2 arms and 2 legs. LOL!
@CodyTeichert26
@CodyTeichert26 7 жыл бұрын
Talk about Pros/Cons of Air-Cooled, and the Pros/Cons of Liquid-Cooled
@IanOcampoPodRider2016
@IanOcampoPodRider2016 7 жыл бұрын
Cody Teichert well you don't have to refill an aircooled engine xD also you wouldn't need a radiator (meaning one less component to worry about getting damaged and needing repair/replacement) my guess is liquid is a better though, better heat capacity than air also a radiator has a very large surface area for heat to radiate off of
@CodyTeichert26
@CodyTeichert26 7 жыл бұрын
oh no no no, I know XD Im just saying he should explain it to those who don't, because hes a really good explainer XD XD thanks though
@chocolatetampon4492
@chocolatetampon4492 6 жыл бұрын
Cody Teichert "He gives really good explanations" go back to fucking English class you dumb fuck.
@strictlyformyninja
@strictlyformyninja 6 жыл бұрын
Chocolate Tampon, why you mad tho?
@chocolatetampon4492
@chocolatetampon4492 6 жыл бұрын
strictlyformyninja It's because this generation is the definition of stupidity, and it will be the last because of it. I don't condone stupidity.
@RobertSantos-rw8dy
@RobertSantos-rw8dy 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I always wanted to know if they are really necessary or just for show.
@dancrabtree2606
@dancrabtree2606 5 жыл бұрын
So what are the tank slappin probabilities of a 27$ dampener vs a 500$ one?
@Majorvideonut2
@Majorvideonut2 6 жыл бұрын
I would like one for slow speeds on my Harley. When I am making a turn at slow speed it sometimes wants to drop over in that direction. I would like a little resistance so I don't lay it over.
@ericvazquez5576
@ericvazquez5576 7 жыл бұрын
why are there bumpers on bikes when most people just replace it with a eliminator kit?
@nero91
@nero91 7 жыл бұрын
Laws in many countries require the body to extend beyond the back wheel.
@plasticacaria6427
@plasticacaria6427 7 жыл бұрын
Easy answer(s) Wet riding Legal issues (as said above, indicators, deflectors, plate light, but also the positionning of the plate as well as the angle, ...)
@Quinney84
@Quinney84 7 жыл бұрын
Bumpers???
@jeffslade1892
@jeffslade1892 7 жыл бұрын
He means mudguards. In the UK we're supposed to have a centre-line marker tail lamp. And number plate illumination. There are height regulations. If the plate/lamp is mounted at the side then at least 50% of the light must be visible from the rear and side. Having the plate sticking out at the side is a bloody nuisance. It rains here. A wet arse is unpleasant but having the front wheel chuck it into your face is worse.
@hraharahra
@hraharahra 7 жыл бұрын
why?
@ssd52800000000000
@ssd52800000000000 7 жыл бұрын
Video on the most required necessary tools for home bike maintenance!!!
@Novur
@Novur 5 жыл бұрын
2:57 "and other factors" it's okay, you can say lack of power
@kittikorn6674
@kittikorn6674 4 жыл бұрын
lmao steering dampers don't eliminate the death wobble entirely they just reduce it
@calvinerasmus2255
@calvinerasmus2255 5 жыл бұрын
Changed my back tyre and immediately felt a huge difference was getting slight wobbles from corner exits previously
@nemesisabaddon5628
@nemesisabaddon5628 7 жыл бұрын
Definitely need one on my 990 Superduke but can't figure the difference between the ölhins radial type or linear like the LSL's....🙄🤔🤔
@louieg5766
@louieg5766 4 жыл бұрын
You should be ok,just as long as you don't go over 400kph on your Superbike. I dream about going 400kph on my 100cc yamaha.
@inthesPhila
@inthesPhila 7 ай бұрын
Learned that looseness of the steering head bearings lets that wobble creep in.
@desulv
@desulv 7 жыл бұрын
I have a friend who put a steering "Dampener" on his bike. I told him "I would get one but my steering is already pretty wet."
@lilbuddylee131
@lilbuddylee131 6 жыл бұрын
Weak
@enlightenedidiot9552
@enlightenedidiot9552 6 жыл бұрын
Damper but whatever...
@flemmingqvist8326
@flemmingqvist8326 3 жыл бұрын
Speed Wobble Tank slabber or front wheel wobble has been around since the invention af the first bicycle. When it put luggage on my bicycle, it will wobble. On a ladys bike this is much more pronaunced because the frame is much more flexible. For more than hundred years and still to this date I have hardly heard a correct or reasonable explanation of the problem. I know exactly why and how a motorcycle wobble occurs. In 1974 i made a study of the problem and presentes my observations during my exam as a machine ingeneer. However it was never published. The wobble situation is ALWAYS based on the following 3 items. Two oscillating masses that are mechanically connected by a flexible object. The flexible object is the motorcycle frame including the tires and any other slack in the parts of the frame. The first oscillating mass is the front wheel and the front fork. The second oscillating mass is the rest of the motorcycle, but especially the heavy engine and gearbox. A rear topbox will make the situation worse. This following situation is feeding enregy into the wobble- oscillation. The two oscillating masses do not oscillate in sync. The front wheel is leading the oscillation and the rest of the motorcycle oscillates a bit after because of the flexing in the frame. When the front wheel is pointing in a slight different direction than the direction of travel of the motorcycle. The tarmac will force the wheel back in a straight direction, but the force may be so strong that the front wheel is forced over center and is now pointing in the different direction and with a slightly increased angle. Read this paragraph again 5 times and you realize that a wobble is now building up. In the most unfortunate cases it will end in a death wobble. Have already written a long explanation, so I will stop here. Thanks if you read it to the end. For further reading pls consult Wikipedia and read more about "Speed Wobble".
@giovannigiorgio514
@giovannigiorgio514 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Captain America
@jeffslade1892
@jeffslade1892 7 жыл бұрын
Thought - the steering is damped by your arms, rule is elbows bent so your arms act as shock absorbers. I have a certain mate who complains of being knocked about badly by the draft from trucks, he rides with his elbows straight and his arms stiff.
@chuckbowen4334
@chuckbowen4334 6 жыл бұрын
No..you do not steering dampers if you ride normally. Most motorcycle engineers design bike for inherent stability under normal loads ....now, if you ride like a "Richard"
@gaminggami4138
@gaminggami4138 5 жыл бұрын
No, you are wrong. I own a honda innova and it happended to me quite often. The worst one of them was when i was traveling at about 20 km/h i ended up falling and scraping my right buttcheek and leg quite damn bad.
@CheekiScrubb
@CheekiScrubb 5 жыл бұрын
if u ride like me u wouldnt need steering dampers bc ur used to controlling the wobble by adding throttle bc i ride dirt bikes loll
@ritwikreddy5670
@ritwikreddy5670 5 жыл бұрын
@@gaminggami4138 then you don't know how to ride
@tantojutsuninpo
@tantojutsuninpo 4 жыл бұрын
I’m just here to add that I had a tank slapper at only 40mph and I was very lucky to regain control because I could no longer hold on to the clip-ons. On a CBR600RR doing an inadvertent low power wheelie in first gear and the road changed from flat to a crowned section. The strong engine braking saves my ass. Needed? Only because I did something stupid but who hasn’t on a bike? Next day ordered a Scott’s and it was money well spent
@rolandosantaana8200
@rolandosantaana8200 4 жыл бұрын
Suffice it to say I guess I dont ride normal!! Lol but better to have it than find out too late Ahh shit I should have installed that shit last week moment!!😄
@bigflicker2137
@bigflicker2137 Жыл бұрын
A bike with light steering like the KLR can experience tank slappers from just going down the road. wind hitting the driver’s arms and shoulders can transfer thru the bars into creating wobbles and even slappers. the fix is to lighten one’s grip on the handlebars as much as possible so your arms are not transferring the wind energy into the handlebars. when beginning to notice the wobbles emerge, allow the grips to begin to float in your much lighter grasp. this will eliminate the wobbles. 😊
@uroszavrl3649
@uroszavrl3649 7 жыл бұрын
I wobled on aprilia sx125 supermoto at 140km/h
@orgami100
@orgami100 7 жыл бұрын
SloGaming ... Yamaha R5 used doing it .. scared the crappies out of me the first time..
@jeffslade1892
@jeffslade1892 7 жыл бұрын
Was it going down a cliff?
@louieg5766
@louieg5766 4 жыл бұрын
Please slow down 140kph is faster than a Ferrari careful
@rustikarla3419
@rustikarla3419 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the info on steering dampers...
@tonykartracer8032
@tonykartracer8032 7 жыл бұрын
Dude, you got veins sticking out all over your biceps and forearms...... stop doing curls and push-ups before taping a segment for the show!
@9strumental
@9strumental 6 жыл бұрын
lol
@ChaosBW
@ChaosBW 6 жыл бұрын
Tony Kart Racer some people are just naturally vascular Try not to be too jealous
@chuckbowen4334
@chuckbowen4334 6 жыл бұрын
Thats,actually a sign of high blood pressure...get it checked before you strokeout dude.
@KillerDeadXero
@KillerDeadXero 6 жыл бұрын
or he could just be Vascular...
@nolenjones3972
@nolenjones3972 6 жыл бұрын
But what's his workout routine more important ly
@meknon
@meknon 3 жыл бұрын
1.00 I recognise that track! Sepang International Circuit Malaysia, my homeland! 🇲🇾 Has been two years though since the last time I set foot on the track because of the pandemic...😌 But my love for riding never fades!🔥
@alexdomino23
@alexdomino23 7 жыл бұрын
why do manufacturers put holes on the side fairings of sport motorcycles. Wouldn't it be more aerodynamic to have it all flush and flat
@tentacleslap5531
@tentacleslap5531 7 жыл бұрын
The air that passes through the radiator needs to go somewhere. The holes in the fairings actually improve aerodynamics by giving that air an escape route
@Brebeanualexcatalin
@Brebeanualexcatalin 7 жыл бұрын
sandroportillo - air cooling and controled holes reduce drag
@menom7
@menom7 7 жыл бұрын
As well as "weight"!!! ;)
@vytas5584
@vytas5584 7 жыл бұрын
sandroportillo aerodynamics is a long degree to study man. its not simple
@Death666wish
@Death666wish 7 жыл бұрын
Ducati didn't get that memo I guess.
@50pence59
@50pence59 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve owned Hayabusas without a steering damper since 2002. For 2-3 years I rode around 50,000km a year, mostly commuting with occasional weekend group rides. My use of the bike doesn’t warrant one and I prefer the feel. I’m never on the track, so with these heavily policed roads the most naughty I risk is 10km over the limit.
@yaakeen01
@yaakeen01 7 жыл бұрын
Can you cover a topic about stroke and bore and how they affect power and torque. I like your videos and how u explain things which are easy to understand and use..
@menom7
@menom7 7 жыл бұрын
Wow,EXCELLENT Video Ari,as I've oftened wondered the TRUE PURPOSE of these things OFF OF the Racetrack of course (where it's OBVIOUS,going through Quick-turns,at steep lean-angles,where it'd be mandatory!!!) So Thanks for your wonderful explanation!!!
@DearMajesty
@DearMajesty 7 жыл бұрын
To add to the list of possible head shake problems....suspension that is set too stiff or with too much damping or using the wrong fork/shock oil in your suspension. Lowering the bike through the triple tubes significantly, which a lot of people like to do is also a big one. Some bikes are just inherently wobbly with their flexy frames or skinny fork tubes. Take Harley's for example or even any year of the Ninja 250 or 300. I've ridden dozens of them and they all have a steering wobble at a certain speed. It goes away with brand new tires for maybe a thousand miles, but comes right back. It's not too bad, but it's pretty apparent if you take your hands off the handlebars somewhere between 20-45mph.
@maxdangerfield318
@maxdangerfield318 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I have a damper on an 01 GSXR 750 that I think is worn out. Maybe a video about when to replace your steering adapter would be useful.
@ThinkSmartCreative
@ThinkSmartCreative 4 жыл бұрын
How cornering abs work? Plz make a video on it
@pinto246
@pinto246 7 жыл бұрын
Have you guys done a video on changing sprocket gear ratios?
@Richard-ts6mg
@Richard-ts6mg 6 ай бұрын
Straight to the point, great video, 👍
@mitchell061675
@mitchell061675 7 жыл бұрын
Can you explain or talk about the little white bottle that I heard was for the breather oil catch is this supposed to be full of oil or not
@danelobe2524
@danelobe2524 2 жыл бұрын
There a must for sport bikes. I've had head shakes at 40mph and 140mph, they will scare the crap out of you. Almost any unbalance of the gyropmetrical harmonies can cause the bars to dance side to side, and at high speed it can be deadly.
@motorjack141
@motorjack141 7 жыл бұрын
I think it would be good to point out(from experience), when headshakes occur, don't fight against it too much, and don't pull the front brakes, try to control it while doing engine braking and/or rear braking.
@MyKharli
@MyKharli 7 жыл бұрын
@Rishabh vlogs For me going down hill one wet day around a corner,coming across a broken down farm trailer which shed a wheel and a load of mud, with on coming traffic preventing avoiding action I would say abs saved me big time.
@flyinggg98
@flyinggg98 7 жыл бұрын
i just wanna thank you guys for the great work you do! it's very helpful and i appreciate it a lot.
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