Sine base Part 3

[@ThisOldTony]

Wonderful series.. clever little tool there & just love watching that shaper. If it weren't 2016, I'd give you a hi-5 :) -- excellent!

[@StefanGotteswinter]

+This Old Tony Thank you :) Dont people do hi-5es anymore?

[@ThisOldTony]

+Stefan Gotteswinter I could be wrong but I think as of 1999/2000 there are UN sanctions in place against hi-5's for anyone over the age of 20 -- unless you're on a volleyball team or some such thing. PS I'd love to hear how that mill is working out for you.. what you think now that you've used it a bit, etc.

[@melgross]

Now that it’s 2021, I’ve read that it’s ok again.

[@DavidLindes]

@@melgross I thought we switched to elbow bumps in 2020. ;)

[@zachaliles]

@@DavidLindes elbow bumps? When did we move on from docking?

[@artmckay6704]

Simply gorgeous work. I find the beauty inherent in finely tuned machine work to be on a par with museum pieces! You always crank out museum pieces! I don't think you're capable of making anything less! Wow! It is always a pleasure to watch the birthing process of another masterpiece! :)

[@dlstanf2]

I like your approach to a problem. And you have an artisan touch to such beautiful work.

[@artmckay6704]

I'm so happy for you that your shop has enough tooling and machinery that you can make pretty much anything that you can dream up. It must be a good feeling! :)

[@knicelydone6384]

I am begging to believe there isn't a thing you can't make! Great work I really enjoy watching your level of precision as you work. Thanks, Matt.

[@StefanGotteswinter]

Knicelydone I try to make everything I want ;) Thank you!

[@pierresgarage2687]

Hi Stefan, You are one of a kind about creative setups...!!! I get surprised every time, meaning good surprise. You reminded me my first month at machining school, using files all other manual tooling, we were all anxious to get to the powered machines, but manual abilities are also needed and last a lifetime. This tool is really a beautiful piece with all the care in the making, you're teaching me patience... Pierre

[@StefanGotteswinter]

pierre beaudry Hi Pierre :) Thank you very much, I always try to show some of the more uncommon setups - In my mind machining is 75% setup, 20% making chips, 5% dodging Mr. Bozo and 1% luck... Still have to catch up with your camera crane - But I took a peak into the video where you showed it in use and its great, I love it :)

[@pierresgarage2687]

Proportions you mentioned are pretty right... Planing is what I've been taught, and saved me lots of pain. I'm starting to use the crane and it make life easier.

[@yvesmorrissette3948]

Looking how you work only makes me want to buy a cnc, a lathe, shaper, and all your cool stuff. Excellent vid as usual.

[@StefanGotteswinter]

***** Every household needs at least a lathe! :)

[@yvesmorrissette3948]

I have 2 3d printers. Does it count? The only plus side is: no chips, no coolant, no mess. But it's only for gadgets and prototypes. What do you suggest for a first lathe? For a guy that wants to learn, but knows very little of machining?

[@andrewdolinskiatcarpathian]

Another wonderfully inspirational film. Your ability to think around a problem and use of the machines at your disposal is fabulous. Thank you.

[@rickl.orchids]

a great tool build, your explanations are clear and the tips you provide in the commentary, as you go thru the machining, are really nice. Love your shows.

[@junglejammer1]

Beautiful work, Stefan. I really enjoyed this series. Your precision and attention to detail is phenomenal. Keep up the good work.

[@juanrivero8]

That is the most beauiful shaper setup I have ever seen on KZbin. I didn't think it could be done at all. Shows that old-school stuff is vastly underestimated. And that engraving machine is wonderful. I have a project to build one, because I will sooner find a Unicorn in Alaska than an engraving machine. Thanks for the videos, and keep them coming.

[@StefanGotteswinter]

Juan Rivero Thank you! I saw a pretty neat design of a pantograph machine in the second machinists bedside reader by Guy Lautard. Or look up Matthias Wandel and his Pantorouther, thats also a nice, 3d capable machine for woodworking, bit it might be converted for metalworking :)

[@StraightThread]

Hi Stefan, It's really a pleasure watching you work. I enjoy the detail and refinement of your designs; they're elegant but highly functional. Thanks so much for sharing. Great that you're using wood from your tree for the box. That will indeed make the sine vise finished to the level of craftsmanship of a true master craftsman. Very nice! Richard

[@VinceSaluto1]

Stefan, your craftsmanship is superb very much enjoyed this video thanks.

[@ls2005019227]

This is such a great series, I had to watch it again!

[@daveprototype6079]

Terrific build, enjoy watching the project and your explanations of the process. Cheers, Dave

[@fourtwo7612]

Excellent Stefan - really enjoyed that. Thank you for making the effort to post the videos.

[@Ropetangler]

Thank You Stefan, you are a most interesting and generous presenter. I really appreciate the fact that you are presenting in a language other than your mother tongue, and you do it so well, Congratulations. I like the subject material in your presentations, and thank you so much for sharing your techniques and skills with the rest of us. I have only recently discovered your channel and already you are one of my favourites, I look forward to seeing more and more of your work, I learn from all of your videos

[@StefanGotteswinter]

Rope Tangler Hi, thank you for the compliments! There is even a reason for doing the videos in english: I get the opportunity to get better at it and of course I reach more people that way. Thanks for the support!

[@bcbloc02]

That will be a very cool little tool. So many uses are possible.

[@JeffreyVastine]

Stefan Gotteswinter this is a really good series and i liked how you used different methods i.e. old school to accomplish a task. Great information and an excellent tool! Thanks for sharing mate. Peace!

[@StefanGotteswinter]

Jeffrey Vastine Thank you! As they always say, there are 1000 ways to skin a cat (I never skinned a cat...) and I always like to try some alternative methods :)

[@nder12345]

loved the series Stefan you can really see that your a toolmaker by trade. You have made me think of what I can do with my little 175mm stoke shaper

[@StefanGotteswinter]

Andre Mausli Uh, thats for that compliment, but I am no toolmaker by trade - I attended an apprenticeship in mechatronics and then got into a prototyping shop, small and complicated work, but no toolmaker :)

[@nder12345]

Well there you go

[@michaelpiotrowicz6100]

If quick accurate setup of intermediate angles, other than the 45 degrees you already have, are important you could make some more holes around the circumference too. Even at 45 degrees you could have a larger portion of base to clamp onto with further holes. Great viewing on a rainy wintery day. Thanks.

[@tumblinjack]

You are a real craftsman. Your videos are very interesting and enjoyable too. Thank You. Joe

[@MegaCountach]

Very, very well done Stephane, impressed!

[@jimmilne19]

Excellent video. For the tools I have this method of rounding gives me access to shapes I otherwise would not attempt. Thanks for sharing this one. Much enjoyed. You create really informative and useful videos. ps. You have amazing patience. pps. Beautiful tool you have made!

[@greasemonkeygaragewatson1069]

That's really nice work Stefan excellent set up ideas and well executed. thanks Jeff

[@StefanGotteswinter]

greasemonkeygarage watson Thank you very much :)

[@juliusco4893]

Hello Stephan great series I love the tools you're making. For this one I have a suggestion but maybe it is stupid, about how the vise is clamped. It is maybe possible to make 4 screws with built in washers to fit the vise slot, then you don't have to remove them completely to slide away the vise and slide in in the other orientation ? Perhaps it will not maintain it as well as your setup, but it seems more efficient with 2 pieces less and no need to unscrew and loose so small screws ! Great job so far with a higher level of precision than other channels !

[@erichope1103]

Darn nice video and a great tool for the shop. Keep em comming Stefan !

[@StefanGotteswinter]

Eric Hope I will, Eric! :)

[@eXactModellbau]

Hallo Stefan Danke, dass Du mich so ausführlich erwähnt hast! Gruß Larry

[@StefanGotteswinter]

eXactModellbau Gerne! :)

[@daveticehurst4191]

Super job, well done. When you make the wooden box for it, add another dowel pin that has been ground half way ( D Bit ) to use in the centre hole. Will save you having to find a 3 mm packing strip to set up your manual Degrees as it will make the pivot hole on the centre line.

[@StefanGotteswinter]

+Dave Ticehurst I did! :)

[@tonyburndred9828]

Top job Stefan very much enjoyed the videos and process, thank for sharing. Regards Tony

[@FredMiller]

Outstanding Stefan! Great series and a really useful product. Thanks for sharing. Fred

[@mackshiv]

Very nice! You certainly how given me ideas as to how to set up and use my own little vise. Thanks.

[@barronriverguitars]

Thanks Stefan. That was a really interesting set of video's.

[@cconnelly2385]

Just a thought, using a 3mm spacer to read your graduation seems like a pain. If you remove half of the part of the pin that protrudes out of the vise, it will sit flat on the vise and you can read the scale directly. Nice video, thanks

[@chrisnorth3458]

Very cool method of cutting a radius on the shaper I plan to make a similar sine base like yours but will probably start with a piece of round bar or cut the radius on a lathe fixture

[@StefanGotteswinter]

Chris North I would do it on the lathe next time too, might be slightly faster :D

[@rc166honda]

Beautiful work, a joy to watch it being made.

[@MyShopNotes]

Very nice Stephan.I enjoy your videos, keep them coming.

[@ramseyst42]

Excellent work and design.

[@geneelliott2825]

Very clever set up and nice machine work! Another great tool to add to your collection. Glad you used your shaper, as always interesting uses for a machine that many think is obsolete.

[@StefanGotteswinter]

Gene Elliott I think too that the shaper is obsolete - In an industrial enviroment - But for me as an hobbyist its a wonderfull machine thats very much fun to run :)

[@AndriyPodanenko]

Superb. I really enjoy this series. Thanks Stefan.

[@petera1033]

Who would have thought four pins in a block could be so useful -:) thanks for sharing your thoughts and going to all the trouble to make and post your videos, it is much appreciated. On bandwidth of 5mBS here in country Australia it is impractical to make and share - however perhaps you are the first to encourage me to do so.. I have found a GLI like yours ( by accident) it is only 400kms away..LOL - again perhaps, and at least I have your experience to draw upon if required. Pete

[@Metaldetectiontubeworldwide]

Wow Stefan very good video . Nice thrick to schaffe that radia , well don and thank you . Greets from the Netherlands Johny geerts

[@amphib0410]

Beautiful work! Very well explained.

[@jster1963]

Beautiful work! I can't wait to see the box and see it used......

[@StefanGotteswinter]

jster1963 The box might be the next (short) video :) Thank you for commenting!

[@mr1enrollment]

Stefan, Wow excellent! Nice to see what can be done with skill and superb machine tools. Wish I could provide you my Chinese tools and have you tune them up. thanks dan

[@larry527az3]

Das video ist wunderbar! Sorry, that's the limit of my Deutschland vocabulary. Great video series Stefan, it makes me want to go out and buy the tools you used but unfortunately my shop doesn't have the space for them. Thanks for taking the time to do them.

[@StefanGotteswinter]

Bitteschön :) You don't need all the fancy stuff anyways. With a lathe alone you can make incredible things :)

[@Thefreakyfreek]

Stefan Gotteswinter true i have a hobymat an make a lot of stuf whit it but you need a drilpres to make things a lot easier

[@gasparini76]

Beautiful work. Loved it!

[@Rabb865]

Awesome series loved them all

[@sevenninthsfabmachine]

I spotted your 'Boley' vise. I've seen it in previous videos too. Very nice. I'm hoping to find one some day, not just because they're good German vises, but also Boley is my last name! Probably made by some long lost cousins of mine. I've seen large ones on eBay. Will keep looking ~ Another great video. Thanks again. -Shawn Boley

[@StefanGotteswinter]

Seven/Ninths Creative Thats a odd/funny thing and the idea that some far relatives of yours are responsible for that kind of vises is also a cool thing :D I love those vises for their precision and overall lock - Nothing for a fabrication shop, but for the kind of work I do they are perfect :)

[@AmateurRedneckWorkshop]

Very interesting video and a nice tool. Thanks for the video.

[@carlquib]

Beautiful work! I was just wondering if you made a slip fit 6mm pin and then milled away half the thickness where it contacts the vice jaw, would that allow you to make noncritical angular setups in an easy manner without the 3mm gauge block or is the block a better option? -Brian

[@sevenninthsfabmachine]

That's a good idea. A single pin that could spin freely (so its flat stays in contact) would do it.

[@StefanGotteswinter]

carlquib Good that you mention that, I got that suggestion also in a german forum and I will absolutely do that!

[@mpetersen6]

The cutting the radius trick on the shaper can also be done on the milling machine by rotating the part on the pin and cutting the tangents. If the end of ths radius can just be continuous place a locating pin on center in the lathe and mount the part on a face plate with stand offs between the work and the face plate. The pin locates the work on center. I've also seen where a work piece is mounted on a face plate where a radius needs to cut and there is a protrusion that prevents the full rotation of the spindle. Place the spindle in neutral and swing the face plate by hand*. Advance the tool slightly and take another cut. I only saw this done a couple of times but the finish result was quite nice. There are all kinds of tricks in the bag. *Better to make sure the machine is locked out or disconnected from the power source.

[@carlosrobertomonteiro7255]

Muito boa a sua idéia, parabéns.

[@rogercrier]

So you etched graduations so you can do rough set ups, BUT, I have never seen you do anything that is remotely rough!!! Everything you do seems to be perfection :o)

[@nathanmeier2908]

I would love to own a shaper but don't.... but I would probably do the operation on the lathe and mill the flat or shaper the flat but fun to do on a shaper. now if I only could find one I can afford for my shop. great videos really enjoy all of them and your work. Thank You

[@marceltimmers1290]

Hi mate. Just revisited this series, if you want to use the graduations, why not just use a half pin. One that has been ground like a D bit. That would lower those 3 mm, not?

[@YYanchev]

Excellent work!

[@tecnobs3d]

Very nice as usual Stefan. This project will be copied as I think it will be a very good addition of useful tools. Will use alu 6082T6511 shaft for the base (yes I know very odd alloy, have blanks for racing compressor screws) CNC lathe and CNC mill work. Hopefully I get this on video as well. Cheers from Sweden Bengt

[@StefanGotteswinter]

bsjoelund Yeah cool! Only thing I would consider with the aluminum base is to use steel bushings in the places where the pins will go...aluminum might wear out...

[@micbanand]

So nice! I would paint the gradiation in brass color. And nice to see old school fileling going forward and up. so piece becoms pefectly round.

[@robertburns2415]

If you grind the pin so the part that sticks out of the hole is has a flat to the center of the pin, in essence cut the pin in half ( 3.00 MM ), it will hold the base at the center of the engravings no matter the how far you turn it.

[@oArticFoxo]

This was the same thing I thought Stefan could just grind 3 extra dowel pins since they are a slip fit they will rotate as you turn it and no need to use a guage pin to get the right setting

[@Rick_Bagnall]

Great job! Wherever did you get a toolmaker's insert vise with cross vees in the moveable jaw? I've seen all kinds of insert vises, but none with the vees in them.

[@danielwerger5641]

Excellent work Stefan...! Interestingly, you use the shaper for the radius. I will try that myself.... Cheers, Daniel.

[@StefanGotteswinter]

***** Thank you! Best thing on that method is that it even works on the mill and you dont need a whole lot of tooling for it - Give it a shot, I think you will not be dissapointed :) Maybe its not the right thing for high precision applications but for rounding over something its perfectly fine :)

[@fredgenius]

Great video, thanks for taking the time to make. One question - what tool (bit) did you use to engrave the arc graduations?

[@larryschweitzer1007]

Damn, you do nice work! When are you putting it in to production?

[@CapeCodCNC]

Would it make it easier to do rough settings if you milled the dowels half way through then you would not need the 3mm block to see your settings?

[@robincox8902]

No music again yippie great video, am I right to say has you are off between centre 66mm 30 degree x 66mm = 33 degrees or was it 60.6? 🤔

[@terapode]

The chamfering technique... genious!!

[@Ujeb08]

A very nice job Stefan!. I just don't know about using the shaper so much though. I wouldn't have the patience even if I had a shaper. A rough radius with a bandsaw and then milling with a rotary table - that is if you have one. Thanks for sharing your work.

[@StefanGotteswinter]

Ujeb08 I could have done it on the cnc, sidemilling with a long endmill, but thats not that much fun over a cutting height of 40mm on my rather light machine. Thanks for commenting!

[@JB-ol4vz]

Damn fine work Mr.

[@bobuk5722]

Hi Stefan. This concept could also be used for accurately setting the critical polar axis lattitude angle on German Equitorial astronomical telescope mounts against a level determined by a precision engineers level. It would work equally well for wedge mounted fork telescopes. Bob.

[@buzby1952]

Hi there I noticed you were cutting on the back cut in the ones I used to use (UK)we cut on the front stroke and there was a (we called it) a clatter box sprung loaded and would only lightly drag on the back stroke, only asking as I have never seen one this way, nice tool by the way very clever. Thanks

[@StefanGotteswinter]

buzby I have so far not seen many shapers that come with a pull-type clapper box - And I dont understand why. Its way more solid, the chips dont fly all around and when youre working to a scrible line you dont have the burr interfering with your scribe line.

[@1musicsearcher]

Very nice.

[@CJ_LEGAN]

Very well done!

[@benjaminvines1768]

2 different radii for the angle sector readings to avoid overlap?

[@SandyShoresProjects]

What if you mounted it centered on a dividing head? Advance the dividing head and have a perfect radius?

[@SandyShoresProjects]

Ok, so I’ll finish watching before spouting off next time 😬

[@StefanGotteswinter]

Haha :D

[@andreblanchard8372]

Well I did manage to finish watching but I have to admit when Stefan said he was going to do it on the shaper the first thing I said (to myself) was "makes sense, all the primary machining so far has been on the shaper, why stop now" the second thing was "I wonder if he has some neat way of auto feeding the rotary head or if he will be hand feeding it". ;)

[@Watchyn_Yarwood]

Superb!

[@Bunnyonabender]

I have never worked on a shaper, but can you grind the radius into the cutter to get the radius closer with less steps? Again I have never worked with a shaper and have no experience with it's operational limits.

[@StefanGotteswinter]

Bunnyonabender Hmm, yeah, that might work, bit wide tools tend to chatter if they get in full engagement. On a heavier machine that would work for sure :)

[@MrShobar]

Nice work. What is the spacing of the pins on the sine bar?

[@StefanGotteswinter]

+MrShobar Those have 50mm distance.

[@mre3820]

Brilliant work Stefan! I really need an engraver :)

[@StefanGotteswinter]

Mr E Absolutely! Everybody needs one! Or an Cnc...or better both ;)

[@establisha]

why dont you put the graduations almost at the edge so you can put larger text and higher resulotions?

[@bubster1981]

I would have had to try and cut that radius on the lathe somehow, but interesting way to do it . Good job

[@StefanGotteswinter]

bubster1981 If I had to do it again, I might do it on the face plate or on the magnetic chuck :)

[@ApukEldar]

Excellent work! Bravo Stefan!

[@StefanGotteswinter]

Apuk Eldar Thank you Apuk!

[@MrFishbender]

sehr schön,wirklich exelent outstanding........

[@jmanatee]

Very nice,... Great job.

[@MatthewTinker-au-pont-blanc]

Thank you! This video is packed with useful ways of doing things, and, there's shaper porn again! What speeds do you run the engraving tool at? Thanks again for a great series of videos! Regards, Matthew.

[@StefanGotteswinter]

Matthew Tinker I think the machine was set for about 12000rpm :) There is just not enough shaper porn out...so I have to add some to it - J. Kilroy also does a great job with his shaper!

[@MatthewTinker-au-pont-blanc]

Thanks! I'm already subscribed to J Killroys channel!

[@thebotformalityknownasdale2564]

I'm curious to know what you think would be a fair price for a valuable tool like that I know I would pay 300 + in Canadian dollars but thinking it is made in Germany by a German the sky's the limit . Butyfull pice of work thank you for showing !

[@SuperSrjones]

Nice job You could make a pin with a flat on one side of one end and it would sit in the vice lower and read without using the 3 mil block

[@StefanGotteswinter]

steve jones Yes! And I already did it, but its not shown in the video, I ground a pin down to half diameter on the single lip cutter grinder and use that for direct alignment :)

[@marceltimmers1290]

Hi mate. I liked the project, however I can't help it thinking that you created a lot of work for your self. But in the end you created an other fine instrument. Marcel Holland, New Zealand, and Australia.

[@StefanGotteswinter]

Marcel Timmers In my homeshop its almost all about the yourney, I love to make tools, fixtures, machines, setup stuff and so on.. :) Thank you for commenting!

[@PitbullCNC]

Really nice!

[@frauminidisk]

Great Videos. Sorry for my nur rudimentär vorhandenen Inglischkentnisse. Deine Videos sind genial. Deinem Englisch kann ich folgen. Bis jetzt habe ich dieses Sinusdings und die Stichelschleifmaschinenvideos gesehen. Besser gehts ja wohl nicht! Nisch aufhören bitte!

[@robincox8902]

Some blacking on the engraving would be a nice touch ❤️

[@chrisstephens6673]

Really nice job but then we expect nothing less :>)

[@BeninLA1]

Neat!

[@vtstudio31]

Vary nice Stefan. you should also include a 3mm jo block it the box. I like your vidios. Thanks.

[@StefanGotteswinter]

Ron Schmaltz I was thinking about that, but I finaly decides just to use an additional pin thats ground down to half its diameter, that will make the scale readable without the use of an additional gage block :) Thanks for the Input and watching!

[@bobshepherd9353]

missed a use for the bottom hole and gauge blocks to machine off equal angles!

[@StefanGotteswinter]

Bob Shepherd Because I didnt think of that myself! Thanks for that idea :)

[@robincox8902]

Just had a thought Stefan” for you music what about simply the best, Tina Turner. Yeah bring it on 🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎵

[@TheHuamantla]

can you make one for me/

[@StefanGotteswinter]

Javier Navarro Unfortunately not - My shop time is pretty limited and I have about 5000 projects to finish..

[@TheHuamantla]

Thank you and I hope someday you can have some time.

[@madisonelectronic]

Larry Fine??

[@StefanGotteswinter]

madisonelectronic Dont think so ;)

[@EmmaRitson]

i dont think i ever commented on this?? ive watched it about 15 times. ill Hi 5 you anyway, no matter what TOT says.

[@dominikstrzys7650]

:)