Not possible, maybe that’s where he let someone “help” him lol
@ManicChampion3 жыл бұрын
Correct but he is also a JURMAN. They are sustained by German bread, German sausage, German beer and German efficiency. There will be many hours of penitence for this transgression.
@Just1GuyMetalworks3 жыл бұрын
Maybe... he did make that one extra part in advance. Possibly some kind of predictive algorithm 🤣.
@StefanGotteswinter3 жыл бұрын
*Writing this comment with a Guiness on my desk*
@xmachine70033 жыл бұрын
And....gone😂 Happens to All of us
@stumccabe3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Stefan. The use of diamond locating pins is something I was unaware of - of course it makes complete sense and it seems so obvious I don't know why I didn't think of it! I always learn something from your videos. Excellent, thanks.
@nickandersonco3 жыл бұрын
I'm not a machinist, but a CAD designer, but I always learn so much from your videos. Thank you!
@ManicChampion3 жыл бұрын
You should definitely do some machining, you need to know how to make the things you design.
@nickandersonco3 жыл бұрын
@@ManicChampion I've dabbled with CNC routers, a bit of manual milling, and can 'weld', but that doesn't make me a machinist lol. These videos sure help me design better parts though. Now Stefan on the other hand is a machinist.
@ManicChampion3 жыл бұрын
@@nickandersonco good man! Ask the shop staff to have a go every now and again, offer a hand with something attainable; the worst that can happen is you get laughed at, and we've all suffered that as apprentoids. It builds character!
@ensen893 жыл бұрын
I am a mechanical design engeneer and I wish I could work with craftsmen like Stefan.
@Kbnexkt Жыл бұрын
Cccx cc c c Nbm a. 😂,
@rodfrey3 жыл бұрын
The ratio of practical information to video minutes was off the charts in this one. Thanks!
@DrYosh23 жыл бұрын
No kidding! It's my first time hearing of diamond pins and overconstraining a part. Gives me lots of new ideas on how I can produce a very simple fixture for my cylinder head resurfacing needs. 🤔🧐🤓
@brucewilliams62923 жыл бұрын
I learn so much by watching your channel. I love the variety of projects you take on and the fact that you go over why you are doing things the way you do. Thank you.
@ManicChampion3 жыл бұрын
I'll share a tip, but only for a minute (sorry I couldn't resist, I've seen AvE in here), we use a lot of small fixings at work, and you'll find that when you use something like an M3 for a while, either the Allen key or the socket hex will get worn out. We've recently come up with the idea of going over to torx key fixing for these small sizes as you can lean on them abit more before they round off. Might be of use, might not; I'd say it depends on how many times you'll use that fixture and whether you can resist the temptation to release your inner gorilla to TIGHTEN that little thing. We machine monkeys are naturally inclined to make sure the parts very fixed down after all.
@craigsuslosky39743 жыл бұрын
Beautiful work as always! Thanks for explaining the fixture itself, and the diamond shape bushing for locating, great idea. I also liked seeing where the parts were going and what they would be used for! Thanks for sharing.
@a.bakker643 жыл бұрын
The stress in the cold rolled materials is especialy on the outside of the material. Good that you mention this 👍
@robertdebusk61573 жыл бұрын
You get to work on the coolest of things, and they come out looking excellent. I am always amazed at your ability to adapt to the job at hand. I would worry for days trying to decide how to fixture the new part. This shows your experience and mastery of set ups. I never get tired of watching you work. Thank you for sharing your work, and set up thoughts. Take Care and Stay Safe. Bob
@OldtimeIronman3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! I do liebherr machines in the USA for my work, I do the welding and machining to assist the mechanics. My employer buys the 50- ton capacity machines.
@martin_mue3 жыл бұрын
I guess the information that it is for a RC-model Liebherr machine is kind of essential. Was puzzled till the end of the video where they designed in such a part in a full size machine. :-)
@matthiaspenzlin64653 жыл бұрын
regarding diamond pins: each lathe is contructed in a similar way: one rail constraints regarding two dimentions ( most times the rail in the front) and the other rail only in one of the dimentions (most times the rail in the rear). for the tailstock it is vise versa.
@crichtonbruce43293 жыл бұрын
You are such an awesome teacher. Thanks!
@johnvaluk14013 жыл бұрын
Always satisfying watching your work.
@lohikarhu7343 жыл бұрын
Ah, "constraints", a rather interesting subject...I was, happily, introduced to kinematics rather early in my career, by a guy named Dan Gelbart, one of the kind of guys with a jig borer in an isolated slab room in his basement, with high-speed air conditioning to ensure constant temperature, and isothermal, environment... my best friend had a jig borer in his basement, too, with laser interferometer 3D measurement system... these guys knew a thing or two ;-) it's great to see Stefan putting these kind of practices in use, and letting us watchers learn, and, learning, too, from those broken end mills! Thanks, good sir, a nice video with some nice embedded teaching. If possible, it might be nice to have a link in the description for some of the "goodies", like your tumbling medium? Mit freundlichen Grüßen!
@MattOGormanSmith3 жыл бұрын
We've all learned from Dan Gelbart, thanks to his famous prototyping video series kzbin.info/www/bejne/rn6zkHScnrOfjpY
@hyperion9538 Жыл бұрын
Wirklich interessant es Video! Ich absolviere gerade meine Ausbildung als Industriemechaniker und hier lernt man wirklich hilfreiche Tricks und Kniffe
@richardsweet50683 жыл бұрын
I like the tumbled finish idea, may look into building a small one.
@SailingYachtDreamcatcher3 жыл бұрын
Precision workmanship as usual! Thank you for the excellent content!
@solverbox3 жыл бұрын
Great overall view of a small production run (in stainless no less) using a CNC router! Thanks for the awesome content, its very informative and I'm personally learning a lot from your experience!
@copasetic2163 жыл бұрын
Great timing for this. I have a very similar application and this will be a good solution. Thanks as always!
@jimsvideos72013 жыл бұрын
Thank you as always for sharing so much knowledge; you have saved me a lot of trial and error as I learn and I appreciate it.
@philiprogers57723 жыл бұрын
thank you for the feeds and speeds it gives us a point of reference for your cnc machine.
@xmachine70033 жыл бұрын
I admire your work. Thank you. Chuck.
@charlieromeo76633 жыл бұрын
Great stuff Stefan. I always learn something in your videos. I will use that fixturing process next time. Thanks, Cheers from Florida’s Space Coast.
@brendanbarbour85683 жыл бұрын
Hi Stefan, I thought that use of the diamond ground hollow pin on the fixture was inspired...totally overcomes the problem of over constraining the part on the fixture...I never would have thought of it...Respect..keep up the good work.
@TrPrecisionMachining3 жыл бұрын
good video stefan..thanks for your time
@SHx-do9iy2 жыл бұрын
...wieder mal ein super Job - Top Video
@TheUncleRuckus3 жыл бұрын
Be still my heart, two of my favorite things R/C and Machining combined into one video, yes please!! 👍👍
@ROBRENZ3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful parts Stefan! Enjoyed. ATB, Robin
@hdheuejhzbsnnaj3 жыл бұрын
I've been meaning to try the diamond head. I always use a slotted bushings, but they are hard to get aligned perfectly. This is a nice way to do this quickly with shop tools.
@joell4393 жыл бұрын
This was an awesome episode. Thanks for the details, including how to make and use diamond pins. These finished parts look amazing. 👍👍😎👍😎
@FinnoUgricMachining3 жыл бұрын
I sort of hate CNC/virtual machining ... BUT ... This time I found myself sitting and consuming that stuff without any negative feelintgs. It was quite the opposite, I really liked it. Especially when I noticed that even with CNC one has to keep the reality in mind. Thanks for taking the time to explain the importance of avoiding over constraining. Edit: The M6 bolt seems to have suffered some collateral damage at some point :-)
@mr.b22323 жыл бұрын
Fascinating as always. Veilen dank.
@frijoli95793 жыл бұрын
Always enjoy your videos!
@4speed3pedals3 жыл бұрын
Stress in cold rolled steel , never realized that machining just one side could be detrimental to the final size. Thanks for the tip.
@mpetersen63 жыл бұрын
Excellent comments about fixture design*. For a quick and dirty one time/one part fixture over restrained is OK. For multiple use you definitely need a diamond profile on the feature that is not the datum hole. *fixturing is the basis of all manufacturing of mass produced parts. Be they machined or welded.
@howder19513 жыл бұрын
Very nice video Stefan. The whole time, I am wondering where these parts go on a HUGR Liebherr machine, great anticlimax to find a toy sized loader! Cheers!
@firstmkb3 жыл бұрын
I spent the entire video wondering what these were for. Nicely done, Stefan!
@RRINTHESHOP3 жыл бұрын
Very nice work Stefan. Enjoyed.
@crozwayne3 жыл бұрын
Nice work Stefan
@googleuser8593 жыл бұрын
Excellent and informative as always, thank you.
@brandontscheschlog3 жыл бұрын
Very cool and I learned some valuable fixturing technics!
@cavemaneca3 жыл бұрын
It's great to see another video from you! I hope you've been busy.
@mr.noneyabidness3 жыл бұрын
There is so much GD$T in this video. The use of that fixture in the vice, is also a test gage for functionality in the decode stage to ensure proper mating conditions! Great video bud, DEEEEECENT.
@jonsworkshop3 жыл бұрын
Hi Stefan, nice job, the vibro polisher leaves a great finish. Diamond pins........ A bit like you were second nature in the tool room and in fixture design etc, great to see them in the home shop! Cheers, Jon
@Smallathe3 жыл бұрын
I always learn something new. Thank you! I wish I could make a part with you... That would be an awesome experience...
@jeroen-surf3 жыл бұрын
Finally a project video again! 😃😃 More of this please!!
@624Dudley3 жыл бұрын
Hello Stefan - I very much appreciate your teaching style (in English no less!). If I may offer a comment: on your fixture, because the first constraint occurs around matching cylinders, it becomes clearer to define the three degrees of freedom in cylindric coordinates. The diamond pin constrains the angle Theta.
@jdmccorful3 жыл бұрын
Explain please?
@lohikarhu7343 жыл бұрын
@@jdmccorful the diamond pin only constrains the angle of rotation, Theta, of the part, and allows for things like material expansion during processing, but the part dimensions are all related to the round pin that sets the zero in X-Y...it appears that the part has low specified precision in Z(?)
@StefanGotteswinter3 жыл бұрын
Ah! Yes, thats a better explanation, thanks :)
@jdmccorful3 жыл бұрын
@@lohikarhu734 Thanks , I have a better understanding now.
@wrstew12723 жыл бұрын
Stefan, your hands look like you have been playing with my cat! Always look forward to seeing your videos posted. Very informative!
@zygmuntthecacaokakistocrat65893 жыл бұрын
Thinking after seeing title: Liebherr . . . make multi-tonne excavators, cranes, tractors etc. . . . is Stefan scaling up in his endeavours? Watch video: ah, no. :)
@steamfan71473 жыл бұрын
Nice job fixturing that part. I use a lot of drawn 303 at work, it's nice material, but as you say contains a fair amount of internal stress. A good percentage of my work starts at the heat treat oven to normalize the material first for that reason.
@thetrevor8613 жыл бұрын
NO idea what to expect. From a very bad 'knowledge' of German, I thought er, 'Dear Sir' er, something-something. And I was and still am, very wrong. Absolutely fascinating work, thank you.
@ReubenSchoots3 жыл бұрын
Another great video, Stefan. Thanks mate!
@arnljotseem87943 жыл бұрын
Funny, I just learned about the diamond shaped locating pin yesterday from another youtuber. Judging from your hands, you have been play-fighting with the cats :-) I remember that from my cat days.
@jimh28873 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another excellent video .
@Zappyguy1113 жыл бұрын
I recently tried a climb/conventional cutting pattern while rough clearing on my little router, I found that I was recycling chips back into the cutting zone while conventional cutting and that I had to halve the feed of the overall roughing because my spindle was getting bogged down trying to conventional mill. Yeah, great plan for quick clearing, but not great for a tiny router.
@MattysWorkshop3 жыл бұрын
Gday Stefan, the CBC router does a really nice job, great video as all ways, Cheers
@turningpoint66433 жыл бұрын
I worked most of my career in the open pit mining industry Stefan and am quite familiar with that Liebherr brand and what they build. So the video title caught me by surprise you could fit or make almost any Liebherr part in your shop at all. :-)
@bigbattenberg Жыл бұрын
Probably it's a scale model?
@MrVdmg3 жыл бұрын
wonderfull! learned a lot and awesome filming, as always i would say !
@gar501723 жыл бұрын
You’re brilliant dude
@EngineersWorkshop3 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to understand that second fixturing pin, in order to constrain the part only in the y direction but still allow for small potential center-to-center length changes in the x-direction the points of contact would literally have to be almost points at 12 o'clock and 6 o'clock correct?
@matthiaspenzlin64653 жыл бұрын
you are right - but (!) the error in this direction is much much smaler due to the geometrie.
@StefanGotteswinter3 жыл бұрын
Yes, correct
@jessehall81683 жыл бұрын
That's why its polished down a few micron under as well
@kunlegrant3693 жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT CRAFTSMANSHIP MR GOTTESWINTER
@AmateurRedneckWorkshop3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another interesting video.
@EmmaRitson3 жыл бұрын
enjoyed very much stefan
@DudleyToolwright3 жыл бұрын
Stephan, always entertaining. Do you have channel stickers? I have never seen you mention them, but thought I would ask.
@2lefThumbs3 жыл бұрын
Great fixturing tip👍my dear man (or something like that, according to my not-so-good inbuilt translator😉)
@RUNCNC3 жыл бұрын
Did you free some space around the kontur of the part, so that the endmill doesn't catch the aluminium? I had some problems with milling steel on the router as you can see in my vid. The alumium clogged the flutes on the last turn. The fixturing is very nice!
@kanetw_3 жыл бұрын
The router is working surprisingly decent in stainless. I was wary of getting a router at first over an actual CNC mill, but this might be acceptable for my purposes.
@TomChame3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, thanks.
@tinker53493 жыл бұрын
Hi, as always very interesting and informative, thanks for sharing.
@donmittlestaedt11173 жыл бұрын
thank you.
@johnharding99363 жыл бұрын
Amazing work stefan. Can you tell me what the hole spacing is for your cnc bed. I'm just getting ready to prepare mine for a similar machine and would love to know what you used on yours. Thanks for the knowledge!
@burningdieselproduction54983 жыл бұрын
Nice video Stefan! I'm glad to se you in the RC model waters! Please, if the client allows, drop us a link so we can se the progress of the build.
@frandiminic35593 жыл бұрын
I was watching CEE (cutting edge engineering) before this video, and i see this. WHAT Stefan went in big parts machining?!?! The whole video and the title are not connected in any way for me, untill the end when AHA thats what he ment haha.
@MaxWattage3 жыл бұрын
I would use 303 for everything if I could, (because of its machinability), but as far as I can tell it is only available in round bar form in the UK, we can't buy rectangular bars or plate.
@antonlancevic6523 жыл бұрын
Do you have a video how you are managing waste (metal chips, oil etc) ?
@angelramos-20053 жыл бұрын
Excellent.Thank you.
@swanvalleymachineshop3 жыл бұрын
We call the real ones Dog Bones . Great job , nice finish with the tumbler . Cheers .
@hairyfro3 жыл бұрын
Not sure I understand why you countersunk the holes before reaming. Is it to help guide the reamer?
@davesage91903 жыл бұрын
Stefan: I believe in an earlier video you had settled on Alibre as your CAD package. What CAM package are you using?
@StefanGotteswinter3 жыл бұрын
I have a seat of Bobcam V32 Pro.
@macsmachine26093 жыл бұрын
Beautiful parts.
@1eonwo1f3 жыл бұрын
Does the tumble finish not affect the precision holes because the media is so much larger than the holes?
@dwightcarlson71363 жыл бұрын
Excellent work and teaching commentary! So are these parts for model loaders?
@robertd99283 жыл бұрын
flarallel, adjective: meaning that something is flat and parallel at the same time. (c) Stefan Gotteswinter 2021
@swarfy53773 жыл бұрын
Do those drill bushings have heads on the underside of the fixture or are they relying on the Loctite to hold them in? Is there a danger that the screws might pull them out?
@inzen863 жыл бұрын
Great video and a lot of useful info. But no comment on the partially milled M6 bolt ? :P
@glennstasse56983 жыл бұрын
These parts will be used in a model of the loader? A prototype of some sort? Did I understand that correctly? Assuming so, that will be some model! What happens next to them? And , of course, spectacular work all around. Stefan is an encyclopedia of machining.
@StefanGotteswinter3 жыл бұрын
Yes, a RC Model
@menow.3 жыл бұрын
I wonder why the abrasive finishing media does not get inside the reamed holes and disturb the final dimension of of the holes.
@bcbloc023 жыл бұрын
Those are much smaller than the connecting rods in the 900hp Liebherr diesel in the Deere forage harvesters. :-) Personally I would prefer my digging equipment not have built in stress concentrations but if the links are beefy enough it won't matter.
@Joelsfilmer2 жыл бұрын
Hi Stefan! Do you have a particular reason for not using a spindle clamping indicator holder on the CNC?
@StefanGotteswinter2 жыл бұрын
Yep :D I did not have one at the time. Since then I made one that slips over the ER Nut of the spindle and clamps on there.
@Joelsfilmer2 жыл бұрын
@@StefanGotteswinter Cool! Hope to see a pic one day! Do you have any plans for a quick change spindle like you had on the Isel?
@StefanGotteswinter2 жыл бұрын
I would like the Teknomotor spindle with the manual HSK toolchanger, since it is a drop in replacement for my spindle.
@Joelsfilmer2 жыл бұрын
@@StefanGotteswinter Interesting. So you've scrapped the plans for a tooling rack and automatic tool changes?
@davidrule1335 Жыл бұрын
Another Great Video!!
@Thomas-cw2wl3 жыл бұрын
I was wondering what make and model is that end mill that you are using here
@hoyospetrola3 жыл бұрын
Mooooore stefan. We need mooooore
@graemebrumfitt66683 жыл бұрын
Cool, just cool :) that's all Stefan! TFS, GB :)
@zachaliles3 жыл бұрын
Liebherr as in the cranes? My dad was a crane operator, super heavy lift, and he told me once that liebherrs were some of his favorite cranes to operate.
@mpetersen63 жыл бұрын
They also build gantry style parts handling systems, robots and other equipment.
@waynec3693 жыл бұрын
Liebherr is into LOTS of different industries...
@MultiArrie3 жыл бұрын
cranes, loaders, dumpers, refrigerators freezers and so on.
@ronalddavis3 жыл бұрын
there are over a hundred slewing studs in a shipboard liebherr. hard work changing them all out. have to use a stud stretcher to take out and replace.try it in august in south alabama
@Whitefirekith3 жыл бұрын
Stefan, can you recommend a quality endmill company? I am tired of all the chinesium products in the U.S.
@nitailevi80013 жыл бұрын
You were going to say flarallel 👻
@ICaughtAMarlin3 жыл бұрын
It's a technical term, don'tcha know 😉 I'm about to start using it as much as I can 😁
@Engineerd3d3 жыл бұрын
Love the mixed machining aspect of this. CNC router machining stainless is pornographic. Very nice work indeed.
@euroman120003 жыл бұрын
Awesome educational video! I need your opinion Stefan, I have a Chinese mill, Bernardo KF 25L, and the spindle gets hot after running it under load for about 20 min. I tried it with no load and it got warm. Do you think it has a bad spindle bearing? There is no strange noise, everything sounds smooth when running it.
@Gottenhimfella3 жыл бұрын
How hot? 60 deg C is fine after running for an hour without load. It sounds to me as if you might have a decent amount of (axial) preload in the bearings. If they are taper rollers, this makes them run quite hot. But if you are milling heavy work, or want a decent finish, you want them preloaded to the point they will generate that sort of temperature.
@MarinusMakesStuff3 жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity; how badly do the plastic pyramid beads release microplastics into the environment and how is this handled by professionals?