Steinway vs Fazioli - Piano Sound Comparison

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@johnmitchell4838
@johnmitchell4838 5 жыл бұрын
I've played many Steinway concert grands and several Bosendorfers, but the first time I played a Fazioli was a revelation. I was no longer playing a piano. It was as if I had a full symphony orchestra under my fingers. Intoxicating !!
@haelscheirs_haven
@haelscheirs_haven 5 жыл бұрын
I would suggest also looking into August Forster whose bass tone I have felt cannot be beaten. For me (mainly describing forte playing, though these analogies may be extrapolated in either direction), playing the Fazioli is liking having "Super Soakers" at one's fingertips whereas the August Forster is like "kitchen faucets", having a pleasant yet not too strident level of turbulence as well as "air" and "breath" (I consider both to be "bright"). I meanwhile find Steinways, Bosendorfers, Schimmels and some others to be rather "laminar" but with different "hole sizes" and "water pressures", even when voiced more brightly.
@aldito7586
@aldito7586 4 жыл бұрын
I'm an electric bass player and i know exactly what you are talking about !!!
@aldito7586
@aldito7586 4 жыл бұрын
I heard that on my PC !!! There is something about the way they make their piano's !!!
@CC-gt3ro
@CC-gt3ro 4 жыл бұрын
John Mitchell i think the fazioli is rivaled by the shigeru Kawai sk-ex concert grand which is fabulous. And the sound is same tone and clarity than the Fazioli. But cost 225k+ taxes..Steinway is more chamber piano. The Kawai sk-ex and Fazioli are best in concert with symphonic orchestra. You should try the Kawai. I just heard, never played the real one but i have the es8 portable piano with the sk-ex samples and i was able to customize it to get it close to the real one. It sounds like the Fazioli, at least very close for a portable piano it is remarkable. There is video comparing the Fazioli and Kawai and except the difference in recording volume they sounds identical. Look also leva dudaite nocturne 20 you will understand what i mean.
@sahzamila
@sahzamila 3 жыл бұрын
i totally agree with you!
@johnmitchell4838
@johnmitchell4838 6 жыл бұрын
I've played most of the major types of pianos in my life, but when I played a Fazioli it sounded as though I had a full symphony orchestra under my fingertips. Absolute magic !!
@simm033
@simm033 5 жыл бұрын
Steinway has a beefy, clean and transparent sound. Fazioli sounds not quite as transparent, but has more nuances in tone color. I prefer the Fazioli
@aldito7586
@aldito7586 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. It just has a BIGGER tone.
@adalam4194
@adalam4194 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you too
@duonghoangminh7634
@duonghoangminh7634 2 жыл бұрын
Same too. Because the Second test, Bigger Tone and it is more like a Tiger's Roar. The Steinway is very gloomy and dark.
@firstmillionmotivation
@firstmillionmotivation 2 жыл бұрын
@@duonghoangminh7634 That Gloomy and Dark sound is vvveerry appealing to many of us, though. :-)
@Cypsky
@Cypsky 6 жыл бұрын
Two gorgeous pianos, nothing to dislike in both
@annanguyen8014
@annanguyen8014 5 жыл бұрын
Me too
@solomonking3385
@solomonking3385 3 жыл бұрын
Smart and honest
@clydebermingham121
@clydebermingham121 3 жыл бұрын
True That ! 🙏🏽💥👍🏽
@mikeward1701
@mikeward1701 Жыл бұрын
The Steinway has a warmer mellower tone, the Fazioli is right and crisp. It’s like a latte and an espresso. I personally prefer brighter toned pianos.
@JordansTake35
@JordansTake35 4 жыл бұрын
When you have the two finest piano companies in the world going head to head I think it comes down to the individual piano's on the day. On some days steinway will win because that particular piano is special, on some days Fazioli will win for the same reason. Today, I think Fazioli edged this one out. I will say this though, Steinway is the sound we all grew up hearing.. because of that, when we hear it, it's like getting a hug from an old friend, where as a Fazioli is like getting a hug from a woman you are newly infatuated with. Both experiences are beautiful and comforting in their own unique way.
@michaeltraub3614
@michaeltraub3614 3 жыл бұрын
Hard to tell any difference. Steinway slightly brighter perhaps.
@Toporusk
@Toporusk 3 жыл бұрын
I agree entirely with you. Fazioli is more neutral than Steinway that has this sound we have in 5million discs. It’s very reassuring for a pianist. Fazioli is less sparkly in the upper range, but it sings like no others. Steinway often has dull midrange, but it’s a great performance piano. Fazioli as Bosendorfer are in my opinion more interesting for private and intimate playing.
@clydebermingham121
@clydebermingham121 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting way to out it 🤗 .... And portably correct in my regards as well 🤗
@TurandotFanatic
@TurandotFanatic 2 жыл бұрын
I agree 100% your comment...
@duonghoangminh7634
@duonghoangminh7634 2 жыл бұрын
But there is a different. Fazioli sounds are more like a Tiger's Roaring.
@geuros
@geuros 5 жыл бұрын
Although I don't like Steinway as a company, I have to admit they still make one of the best pianos in the world. I prefer Fazioli, but to be fair Steinway sounds fabulous and it's really matter of taste. It's even hard to overcome the inflation of "being used to hear", because majority of us are used to hearing Steinway and this actually somehow imprints an idea in us, how we expect piano to sound. Steinway succeeded in making itself a benchmark, that's why it's difficult for other brands, they need to differ somehow and as Steinway does nothing wrong, we are basically talking just pure emotions. Also, when I first touched Fazioli in my life, it was like magic. When I first touched Steinway it was like "wow, finally I have a chance to touch that famous Steinway" but it didn't feel so special. Fazioli took me to different dimension, while the best description of my feelings from Steinway is: "it really works, the haptic response is great, nothing to dislike" - but nothing to be blown away. It's benchmark, you don't get blown away by them. In the end, it takes master pianist to make Steinway or Fazioli sound to their best. I just enjoyed Fazioli more.
@pqiojsqdklnads3861
@pqiojsqdklnads3861 4 жыл бұрын
what’s wrong with steinway as a company?
@geuros
@geuros 4 жыл бұрын
@@pqiojsqdklnads3861 I had some experience with them several years ago, their behaviour towards potential customers wasn't that great really - a director of one school of music wanted to buy a concert piano for the school, and while Steinway wanted first to pay in advance before they would even let him to visit their piano factory, Fazioli himself walked him through his, spent whole afternoon with him, showed every single piano with his own commentary, it was a bit different. But Steinway changed since then, now they're totally fine, I just don't like monopolies.
@ericastier1646
@ericastier1646 3 жыл бұрын
@@geuros No they haven't entirely changed, they're very proud. i am looking for a A or B model and no longer than two weeks ago i talked with steinway NY and while they were nice in giving me the information on inventory and prices. they're certainly arrogant and think customers have to chase and run after them, no the other way round. The manager kept telling me how they loan their pianos to the tonight's show or lady gaga which i absolutely never watch and do not like these people are of zero interest to me (it was a turn off when he said that). Still i would say they were professional, straightforward and frank so i would still say it was a good interaction. Especially there is none of the salesman talk from regional Steinway dealers but that's because the factory does not negotiate prices but local dealers do on their floor inventory. The company makes you feel much more secure in the process, they do not try to lure you, whereas the regional Steinway galleries are privately owned and you can expect a pushy salesman pitch, chasing you. A whole lot friendlier than car salesman though.
@geuros
@geuros 3 жыл бұрын
@@ericastier1646 yep, truth is Steinway gets a lot of demand so... But honestly either you get Steinway from Hamburg factory or you rather don't get it. Long Island factory makes worse instruments.
@ericastier1646
@ericastier1646 3 жыл бұрын
@@geuros If you live in the USA it does not make sense financially to order a Hamburg Steinway unless you are very rich, these pianos are already very expensive, no need to pay +$20k probably to import one from germany even if they are better.
@nicolasantony310
@nicolasantony310 5 жыл бұрын
Fazioli is perfect for Chopin, the sound is warm and sweet, just like Chopin pieces. For Steinway, I would rather something like Prokofiev, Bartók and Beethoven for example.
@jamjam9253
@jamjam9253 3 жыл бұрын
I think Bach works the best on Steinway
@ericastier1646
@ericastier1646 3 жыл бұрын
I agree that Steinway is not suited for Chopin, based on hearing and playing Chopin on Pleyel Grands of Chopin's time.
@duonghoangminh7634
@duonghoangminh7634 2 жыл бұрын
Steinway sounds are very Gloomy, not bright.
@weiliu3623
@weiliu3623 Жыл бұрын
Lady Gaga plays a Steinway. Case closed.
@ronb6182
@ronb6182 Жыл бұрын
​@@weiliu3623not on your life Steinway gone down hill. And to make them in China they can rot over there. Old Steinway are much better. The wood has aged to make them sound even better. Well don't know if I will ever find a parlor model 6 feet 4 inch was their best piano. I'm glad I got to play on one. My piano tuner that tuned my old HP Nelson upright concert grand rebuilt his piano and that is all she wrote. I don't have room for a large piano they will have to stay in the concert hall. A mason Hamlin baby grand will have to do. If it's one of their old models. 73
@robertlulek1634
@robertlulek1634 5 жыл бұрын
I had a Steinway b when I first got it out of the box it did not sound so great but I had my piano tech work the action and it needed a lot of work.when it was finally done it was a beautiful piano but it needed quite a bit of work to get where it needed to be with the action and sound. Since that time I traded my Steinway b for fazioli 278. I can only tell you that I can play that piano much faster and clearer than I could ever on my Steinway. I play contemporary and classical jazz. And also classical music. I never could play the revolutionary etude as crisp as I could on my fazioli. I would have to say the Steinway has a Richer bass sound, in some ways. It is geared more for medium speed lower classical piece. Whereas the fazioli has a better mid-to-high range sound much more clear. But overall the build quality of the fazioli is far Superior
@karinakarina6890
@karinakarina6890 5 жыл бұрын
No doubt on the last point; for anyone who has not looked underneath a Fazioli, you would be amazed by the cabinetry finish where it is never even seen....
@LuisKolodin
@LuisKolodin 5 жыл бұрын
Steinway's intention is for a rich sound for concert rooms. Fazioli is crispier because it has more transient and less harmonics. Fazioli's sound is brighter, not necessarily powerful. If you put a Fazioli in a concert room, or play it with a huge orchestra, it fades away, while Steinway's sound remains still. Every piano has a diferente purpose. For clarity, precision and nuances, I'd prefer a Yamaha.
@LuisKolodin
@LuisKolodin 3 жыл бұрын
@L'homme heavier actions deliver more nuanced performances, mainly in very potent pianos
@benjaminsmith2287
@benjaminsmith2287 2 ай бұрын
@lhommeaudacieux Yamaha CFX is a top-tier piano. The SX's are excellent too. They vary but a well voiced, regulated CFX is a fantastic piano. There are a lot of great pianos. STeingraeber and Sons, Bechstein, Bosendorfer, but it comes down sometimes to just getting a special one and having a great tech work their skills/magic on them.
@girlmusician24
@girlmusician24 5 жыл бұрын
I wish I had enough money to buy either one of these pianos. Someday my wish will come true.
@mayling156
@mayling156 5 жыл бұрын
Oh man... you can't capture this on youtube. You got to be there and play the two instruments to get feel and get it. The quality and timber of the sound (at least on my lap top... I mean, it just can't be captured in this way....) And as a pianist, the way the two instruments feel... soo different, so cool.
@playloudplayoften8938
@playloudplayoften8938 5 жыл бұрын
May Ling Lai You are so right. The compression on KZbin is really mean to music. MP3’s are ruining our music listening experience.
@frazuli
@frazuli 4 жыл бұрын
May Ling Lai don’t listen to mp3
@oneirdaathnaram1376
@oneirdaathnaram1376 2 жыл бұрын
"Timbre", not timber. Although it's made of timber, in the end, and even that plays a role ... ;-)
@NicolasEjzenberg
@NicolasEjzenberg 4 ай бұрын
I agree. Cannot choose with a recording. The feeling and personnal hearing of the instrument is very important.
@FreeHKer
@FreeHKer 6 жыл бұрын
I find Fazioli more expressive and emotive, Steinway more delicate and refined. Almost like apples and oranges, I like both of them on different days...
@Leonardinho097
@Leonardinho097 4 жыл бұрын
very accurate 👌
@henrykaspar3634
@henrykaspar3634 Жыл бұрын
I recently test played a Fazioli, and there is no way back.
@Zoe.TheBody360
@Zoe.TheBody360 Ай бұрын
There's something comforting about a Steinway its the outstanding sound we've all grown up with, so it evokes memory....but that Fazioli is a revelation....it is so crystal clear and pure....it's everything.
@AAAstudioz
@AAAstudioz 3 жыл бұрын
@ 3:53, it sounds like the Steinway is exploding with sound, while the Fazioli sounds like it’s going to snap under all those notes… Steinway has a robust sound between hammer & attack, and from a mixing standpoint, has fuller notes, almost like all the frequencies are all active, they’ll ring nicely with an orchestra. Fazioli sounds like it attacks just for the transient and almost immediately decays with no other frequencies active. Sounds really clean, but almost that it takes away from the “piano” itself
@danhhughes
@danhhughes 2 жыл бұрын
Fair points, but I will say the comparison in this passage is poor as there is SUCH a difference in execution from the two pianists of the double arpeggios in 6ths(/5ths). The pianist on the Steinway plays each individaual note with a tremendous amount of clarity and strength, which yields a much more substantial sound (“exploding with sound”). Can’t say the same of the pianist on the Fazioli - the notes are lacking the individual strength to collectively produce the same roar out of the instrument.
@joyr5939
@joyr5939 3 жыл бұрын
WTH! My whole body got goosebumps when the FAZIOLI played the first note! UNBELIEVABLE!
@mauriziom9422
@mauriziom9422 4 жыл бұрын
No doubt for me. I love Fazioli sound.
@moranplano
@moranplano 4 жыл бұрын
Both are great pianos....the FAZIOLI.....Lights Me Up a little more....Bravo to both!!
@dcar6530
@dcar6530 2 жыл бұрын
Steinway sound like crystal clear water in the moonlight. Fazioli sounds like a deep wood forest in the moonlight.
@MarketswithMay
@MarketswithMay 2 жыл бұрын
Both are amazing. I love the feel of a fazzioli though.
@oreste6076
@oreste6076 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah i can clearly spot the difference.... On my High quality mobilephone speakers
@frazuli
@frazuli 4 жыл бұрын
Oreste Schaller exactly
@paxwallacejazz
@paxwallacejazz 4 жыл бұрын
Yup
@matteomagurno3068
@matteomagurno3068 4 жыл бұрын
feel ya
@siddharthsharma8940
@siddharthsharma8940 4 жыл бұрын
Use a headphone like normal people
@loopymomy2532
@loopymomy2532 4 жыл бұрын
I’m using speakers on my phone and I hear the difference. Take your headphones out
@andresgunther
@andresgunther 5 жыл бұрын
This is a German Steinway; they sound different from the American Steinways. Fazioli is a LEGEND. I never had opportunity to play one, but colleagues of mine did, and got hooked. As for this sound comparison, curiously enough, certain passages sound better on the Fazioli, and others better on the Steinway. As Bel Suono pointed out, they were played by different pianists, that is an important variable.
@EP-77o
@EP-77o 12 күн бұрын
I honestly believe that these comparisons are more about personal preference. But, that Fazioli is on another level!
@luismardones2554
@luismardones2554 5 жыл бұрын
FAZIOLI is superb piano on The earth !!
@brianthompson2089
@brianthompson2089 5 жыл бұрын
Fazioli has better note separation and clarity for my ears.
@marvinsilverman4394
@marvinsilverman4394 4 жыл бұрын
well said I feel that too
@couchcamtv8499
@couchcamtv8499 5 жыл бұрын
Fazioli has more clarity and complexity where as Steinway has a warmer tone.
@couchcamtv8499
@couchcamtv8499 5 жыл бұрын
Well I would take the fazioli
@jamjam9253
@jamjam9253 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly the opposite in my opinion
@sebthi7890
@sebthi7890 3 жыл бұрын
That is funny, I perceive it the other way round. To talk about music and sound is a bad witness. The misunderstanding of the musicologists who invented the "historically informed performance practice".
@hugeshows
@hugeshows 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting comparison. I thought at first that the Steinway might be at a slight disadvantage with respect to mic placement. By the end, I was thinking the Fazioli was too distant.
@ΠαναγιώτηςΑλεξανδρόπουλος-β1γ
@ΠαναγιώτηςΑλεξανδρόπουλος-β1γ 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@Charccy
@Charccy 3 жыл бұрын
" Van Gogh vs Picasso , tea vs coffee ?" A good example of how some comparisons become futile.
@alfreddas4830
@alfreddas4830 5 жыл бұрын
Just as an average listener, both piano sounds great. Steinway in my ear sounds very polished and distinct sound when each note are played individually. On Fazioli the same note felt in my ear a sharp edge to it, more like metallic resonance in it.
@christianj252
@christianj252 5 жыл бұрын
Somehow the Steinway has more resonance and a mellow tone, whereas the Fazioli sounds tinny sometimes, but much more playful and agile sounding.
@jeguzmanramirez
@jeguzmanramirez 4 жыл бұрын
FAZIOLI makes such powerful sounds
@PurpleeTv
@PurpleeTv 5 жыл бұрын
Hard to compare their sounds as both of these brands hand make each piano unique in it's own way. No piano for either brand will sound the same. So it's up to the artist to pick which piano, not which brand, they prefer.
@benjaminsmith2287
@benjaminsmith2287 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, individual piano. But I think Faziolis are closer to sounding consistent with one another than Steinways which vary a lot. This is from a piano competition. I've seen the same pianist go from a Steinway to a Shigeru Kawai to a Yamaha CFX to a Fazioli from one competition to another. It may be based on just trying different pianos or, more likely, they liked a particular piano in a competition regardless of the name on the fallboard. I know I love some Steinway Ds and not others, same with Yamaha CFXs. I don't get to hear Faziolis much or Shigerus, but I like some Kawais more than others, same models.
@robertstrong8966
@robertstrong8966 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely correct! For example, test 4 identical models of one make, and you will rate them each differently--and choose the one you favor!
@billrudiak
@billrudiak 5 жыл бұрын
Full disclosure...I own an F228 and have played an F278 and Hamburg B and D. I play mostly chamber music and the FAZIOLI 228 is ideal for it as it does not overpower the other instruments. Sometimes i miss the growliness of the bass on a Hamburg Steinway and would probably choose it if I was playing a concerto, but there is a wonderful responsiveness, clarity, and nuance in the FAZIOLI. For me, the Yamaha CFX is also a great piano but New York Steinways just don't cut it (and I have played several).
@NicholasMatthews
@NicholasMatthews 2 жыл бұрын
Faziloli is very clean, like crystal clean and clear. But I do love the big BEEFINESS from the Steinway, and even when it's soft, it suits my playing better. Both such stunning instruments!
@juanbautista3366
@juanbautista3366 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, Steinway are more complex in harmonics, more richness
@NicolasEjzenberg
@NicolasEjzenberg 4 ай бұрын
Well both are quite good. Difficult to choose. Would need to try in person.
@MrMarcoPonton
@MrMarcoPonton 3 жыл бұрын
La experiencia y la subjetividad son elementos "individuales" que nos permitirán evaluar estos instrumentos, aparte que hay que escucharlos en presencial.
@dinothewliss4407
@dinothewliss4407 4 жыл бұрын
Fazioli is on another level, clarity is the real difference, the era has come whereby the piano is greater than the pianist! I certainly wouldn't enjoy a concert were any other piano being used, put simply, Fazioli to the piano world is what Stradivari is to the violin world, pure class, the difference is night and day.
@sorenhuhnblyat3188
@sorenhuhnblyat3188 3 жыл бұрын
You tell me fazioli is on another level than steinway?!
@mauriziom9422
@mauriziom9422 Жыл бұрын
You are right . Fazioli is on another level. Im trying to sell my steinway for a Fazioli after i played it
@jaykeyz9094
@jaykeyz9094 4 жыл бұрын
I was fortunate to play on both many times as a young budding conservatory and competition pianist. I liken a (good) Steinway to a Stradavarius, usually not the best at first. Can be tempermental, moody, and you have to learn how to extract the best sound. But when you find the sweet spot----it was all worth it! Fazioli's are more like precision Yamaha's--they are clear, beautiful, calculated, and predictable with an emphasis on precision. I prefer each for different styles of music and will alost always choose a Fazioli if little rehersal or not up to snuff technician is available. Given these are different pianists you have chosen to compare, I think the difference is less about the piano and more about the person playing on it. I will say the pianist on the Steinway brought more to offer my ears.
@tpnotes
@tpnotes 5 жыл бұрын
Fazioli is just incredible.
@차렷경례
@차렷경례 6 ай бұрын
2:01 name of this song?
@alis1637
@alis1637 3 жыл бұрын
Fazioli is better for Bach, Mozart or pieces requiring more fingerwork and speed. The downside is there’s not much depth of tone especially down the bottom end of the piano. Steinway is more suited to Beethoven or 20th century pieces which require a bit of grunt. The hammer strike is more obvious and because the bass reverberates more, it may muddy the middle register a bit. Personally I’d pick the Fazioli if the piece was more ‘light and airy’ but the Steinway for anything else.
@christianj252
@christianj252 5 жыл бұрын
In this recording the Fazioli sounds cheap and tinny compared to the Steinway. I have played both before. Fazioli is brighter and clearer, but lacks the mellow and deep tones the Steinway has.
@johnnyt3676
@johnnyt3676 5 жыл бұрын
agreed. and when you really dig in at higher volumes, the strinway cleans up a lot better. the Faz seems to get the tones mixed and a bit clashing within. stein sounds mire consistant throughout all volumes and technique. faz sounds clearer and more detailed at softer play, but once they dig hard, the steinway holds the tone with no problem, even dares you to take it to the next level
@dooksan
@dooksan 2 жыл бұрын
These comments sound more in line with what I'm hearing--The Steinway: sublime, clean, clear, pristine. "Holds the tone...once they dig hard"!!
@sebastian-benedictflore
@sebastian-benedictflore 5 жыл бұрын
I've never played a Fazioli. My favourites have always been Bosendorfer, Kawaii and Steinway. This is enlightening.
@sebastian-benedictflore
@sebastian-benedictflore 5 жыл бұрын
@@skrutten_ Thanks I'll go listen to them
@mauriziom9422
@mauriziom9422 Жыл бұрын
If you try you will buy it if money are not a problem
@pyandri
@pyandri 3 жыл бұрын
Steinway basses seem to have more dynamics. But the precise placement of the microphones, the necessarily different position of the pianos in the room, all this can change the game. Moreover, if you compare two identical Steinways, they will not give the same sound either...
@anidubme_studios
@anidubme_studios 3 жыл бұрын
For those who can't get it, In Steinway, you can hear the bass, But in fazioli, you can feel it. In Steinway, you can hear soft tunes And in fazioli, you can have a bit more of treble
@Daveinet
@Daveinet 5 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised as to how cluttered and compressed the Steinway is. The Faz is much more detailed. Its like listening to an old analog recording vs a very high end digital recording. Something not shown in this video, but I heard in other videos is how the tonal color is inconsistent between notes. This was especially noticeable on a Bosedorfer compared to the Fazioli.
@frazuli
@frazuli 4 жыл бұрын
Daveinet you’ve obviously never heard a high quality analog recording on proper playback equipment
@ericastier1646
@ericastier1646 3 жыл бұрын
You're quite right, the Steinway sound is compressed mechanically, just like an electric guitar amplifier produces a fatter tone except it is done in the electrical amplifier tubes whereas in the Steinway piano it happens mechanically and acoustically, but the principle is the same. The more free to resonate a sound is the more it will be a colorless pure sinusoidal tone with only the fondamental and no harmonics. The more compressed and constrained the resonnance is (intentionally by way of mechanical means in the piano design) the less of a sinewave it will be and will have more harmonic content (colors). Timber is a slightly difference thing which is how a natural material resonates (different types of wood +geometries). This means Steinway design compressed the sound to get more color and more non fondamental resonance. This comes with a signature sound recognizable but is also more variable in each instrument. This usually also does not scale well across the dynamic range. Usually the color fade suddently in p or pp and the fff can be harsh on Steinways. Fazioli is more natural and will have better linear dynamics all the way from ppp to fff but the tone will have less color and will be thinner.
@Daveinet
@Daveinet 3 жыл бұрын
@@ericastier1646 Thanks for your comments. I didn't really think about why I was hearing what I was hearing but it makes sense. It makes you wonder how each performs against other instruments in a mix. Would the Faz sound too delicate with a full orchestra, or even with a rock and roll band. Or does its cleaner sound help it sit in the pocket, but yet be easily distinguishable in the mix of instruments. As a solo instrument, it is exquisite.
@Daveinet
@Daveinet 3 жыл бұрын
@@frazuli Didn't see your comment till now. Would you be referring to the Urei 813s we had in our Studio in Chicago, or the Tannoy FSM 215s running on Brystons we installed in a Studio we built in Florida? Must be the Ampex or the Studers that were lacking LOL.
@ericastier1646
@ericastier1646 3 жыл бұрын
@@Daveinet I am glad you liked my reply, the questions your ask yourself are relevant. There is one gentlememan''s comment a jazz player who wrote that he owned a Steinway B and after a lot ot work having it regulated to his liking it was better and then upgraded to a Faziolli. He said the action on the Steinway was too hard even after being regulated, and that he was able to play much faster music on the fazioli and the action was more precise. This mechanical difference will influence how music is played. Actually i am convinced that modern pianos have ruined the classical music composition process and are the reason no good classical music was produced in the 20th century after WWI. It is Ravel who said that Mason & Hamlin are better suited to music composition because of very gradual and precise dynamics and action (and lighter touch i assume). The Steinway is not, it is more a concert showcase piano. Very few people can improvise on a Steinway because the instrument requires such a high level of athleticism and energy from the performer that you cannot be in a quiet relaxed inspired state of mind to compose with it. It is too demanding to play physically and mentally. Jazz pianists do improvise on Steinway but honestly, i see it more as playing small riffs that that they re-use and know how to transpose, it's not classical style improvisation. At the same time, the Steinways do a great job for performance. In the 19th century pianist always meant composer as well, i think that the way the instrument evolved has changed that.
@vincenzosantoro220
@vincenzosantoro220 4 жыл бұрын
Divino
@rajx82
@rajx82 2 жыл бұрын
For me I think it would depend on the piece I’m playing For something elegant and light like Mozart or Bach, I’d go Fazioli For something where I want that beefier sound like Rachmaninoff I’d go Steinway For Chopin probably would depend on the piece
@picanha694
@picanha694 5 жыл бұрын
Fazioli have a bigger sound and an orchestra like feel to it. Steinway really reminds me to that scene in the movie Pianist where he plays for the nazi. It sounds good but its slightly muted.
@EJsacasa
@EJsacasa 5 жыл бұрын
wermacht, not nazi
@LuisKolodin
@LuisKolodin 5 жыл бұрын
Fazioli's sound is brighter, while Steinway's powerful. Usually people get confused with it... the more transient one piano has, it may seem to be louder, but that doesn't mean the sound is rich. This is more noticeable in large concert rooms, played with large orchestras.
@harrymullany4789
@harrymullany4789 4 жыл бұрын
This is an impossible comparison when I think that the 12 Steinways I’ve tried in showrooms, halls & theatres have sounded unique in the same way that a Stradivarius violin is not like any other ‘Strad’. I don’t know Fazioli but it sounds danged good on this KZbin video. Are both pianos recorded in the same acoustic space? The Fazioli sounds as if the mic is a bit closer to the strings than the Steinway, thus giving the effect of more presence to the sound. Anyway they sound equally great here!
@defan2105
@defan2105 5 жыл бұрын
Bösendorfer or Fazioli for me. Though I do love a high-quality Steinway and Sons D274, I can't trust the quality coming out of their factory these days. Plus with all the restrictions about having to send it to them for particular repairs is just insane. How about hearing a Schimmel Piano?
@mauriziom9422
@mauriziom9422 4 жыл бұрын
Fazioli sound is unbelievable
@raleedy
@raleedy 5 жыл бұрын
One of each, please.
@shengxic
@shengxic 6 жыл бұрын
Fazioli❤❤❤
@Jeff-dp4yj
@Jeff-dp4yj 3 жыл бұрын
The Fazioli audio is even louder so I can't clearly tell which is better
@benmcdonald2020
@benmcdonald2020 2 жыл бұрын
I have always wondered how they recorded side by side. I am a trumpet player and piano player I would love both under my fingers and playing with me on stage.
@jonathan130
@jonathan130 2 жыл бұрын
whats the first piece called
@Augustus_Imperator
@Augustus_Imperator 4 жыл бұрын
I like Steinway's character. For my personal taste it's more elegant, it has a glossier sound so to speak, and a deep expressive bass. Fazioli is brighter but I also feel it like being a bit duller, especially in the lows and it seems to me less expressive overall.
@luismardones2554
@luismardones2554 4 жыл бұрын
FAZIOLI to Steinway; I'M your FATHER....
@aldito7586
@aldito7586 4 жыл бұрын
"Luke, I'm your mother !!!" HAHAHA
@luismardones2554
@luismardones2554 4 жыл бұрын
@@aldito7586 gay detected...
@stefanstefa-missagli7581
@stefanstefa-missagli7581 6 жыл бұрын
Fazioli is like a Ferrari. Sweeter and not aggressiv. The king of all Pianos
@alaind.3176
@alaind.3176 5 жыл бұрын
The king is bosendorfer
@philosophiaentis5612
@philosophiaentis5612 5 жыл бұрын
The king is Steinway.
@superbigace1761
@superbigace1761 5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@superbigace1761
@superbigace1761 5 жыл бұрын
Go yamaha
@luismardones2554
@luismardones2554 5 жыл бұрын
FAZIOLI IS EMPEROR OF ALL PIANOS..
@juvenwang
@juvenwang 10 ай бұрын
Could someone provide the full list of music being played here?
@CWBella
@CWBella 3 жыл бұрын
The Steinway to me sounds like it has more depth of tone in the upper register.
@michaeljeremybrown6853
@michaeljeremybrown6853 6 жыл бұрын
The Fazioli Is good more full more silky in my opinion but extremely muddy maybe because of the resonance and the mic sounding distorted because it cant capture all those fine neuances. I bet in real it would sound much more pleasing to the ear I can just imagine. Its just the same as listening to recorded classical concerts, I used to do that. But then when I saw one for real i was so amazed how much better it sounded the feeling atmosphere everything one cant capture on tape. In that concert the pianist was playing on a Shigeru Kawai so not Steinway or Fazioli. Back to the topic! You can just hear how much better the Fazioli resonates. Im a bit split to be honest both are simply amazing grandpianoes and I guess everyone have a different taste for whats pleasing to their ears and I am yet to play a Fazioli, Ive played the Model D. I used to work as a pianotuner and technician beeing teached by some of the most reknown professionals in my country. And I also know from my own personal experience noone told me this, just from working with a couple hundred pianoes that the tuning and temperament have alot to say on the resonance as well.
@HFoTmusic
@HFoTmusic 6 жыл бұрын
Shigeru Kawai is a dream! The hammer sensitivity allows for very fine control of dynamics/tone. It's definitely right up there with the best of them.
@CC-gt3ro
@CC-gt3ro 4 жыл бұрын
Highfire i agree sk-ex is very similar to the Fazioli. Nearly identical sounds.
@paxwallacejazz
@paxwallacejazz 4 жыл бұрын
Steinway still punches projects slightly better. It's a full one. Fazioli lovely more female. But the new Bechsteins might take them both. Also MASON & HAMLIN !damnit
@luisxv8982
@luisxv8982 5 жыл бұрын
Fazioli, Shigeru Kawai, Steinway and Bosendorfer
@eorlandopalmieri
@eorlandopalmieri 4 жыл бұрын
Both of them are wonderful, but in this recording I preferred Fazioli.
@paulbeauregard8297
@paulbeauregard8297 5 ай бұрын
The F in Fazioli stands for flute...The instrument has a sinewaveish, flute sound compared to the high-end shimmer of the Stienway.
@paulsarodh5460
@paulsarodh5460 Жыл бұрын
Superb 😍🙂💖
@gabrielhalston6726
@gabrielhalston6726 4 жыл бұрын
I've played Fazioli, Bosendorfer, Hamlin and many others, including Steinway. I prefer the Steinway. I own one...it's crisp, clean and distinctive sound, from bass to upper registers, is transparent and clear as looking glass. It's the same with professional and concert artists...they all have different tastes and preferences and, therefore, different pianos they desire best. Preference is a personal thang! :)
@johnfrobin
@johnfrobin Жыл бұрын
May I have one of each, please?
@linyangyoung25
@linyangyoung25 3 жыл бұрын
Steinway has heavier and more solid tone, a little more tonal color and texture. Fazioli has some floating and lightweight quility. And it has smoother, clearer tone, with more nuances between all the dynamics and project with broader yet tender sonority.
@aldito7586
@aldito7586 4 жыл бұрын
Not knocking anyone. But the Fazioli is BIG, CLEAR, DEEP, ROUND.. I'm not a pianist, but i DO hear the difference.
@pavillokteff185
@pavillokteff185 Ай бұрын
Okay, I’m partial to the Steinway but I would definitely take either one. LOL.
@doctorcountersteer6580
@doctorcountersteer6580 7 күн бұрын
To me, with my grandpops having founded Julliard and my being gifted with a model D in the first grade, by him, just sounds more rich. The Fazioli is louder, but lacks the warmth and presence of the Steinway. Mine is an 8'10" which was produced in 1912. Your Fazioli can't say that.....
@titob.yotokojr.9337
@titob.yotokojr.9337 5 жыл бұрын
Both are great pianos. No doubt the Fazioli sounds great in soft and lyrical passages and the Steinway shines in forte passages. In the end, the choice is a matter of taste.
@macmoss7170
@macmoss7170 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I personally prefer the Fazioli, but certainly not on the basis of this kind of comparison. Here it sounds like someone deeply appreciative of the Steinway played those passages, then someone who did not care for the Fazioli or had not mastered it played those passages. An unfair comparison.
@rennedelorean3341
@rennedelorean3341 5 жыл бұрын
One of the things that I've heard is, the responce on the action of a Fazioli piano is superior . . . I guess it's up to the individual, you would have compare them in person, next to each other, the sound reproduction on a 'PC' cannot compare to a live performance.
@LuisKolodin
@LuisKolodin 5 жыл бұрын
"superior responde action"... I'd say Fazioli action is TOO LIGHT and lacks the control of other piano's heavier mechanics.
@rennedelorean3341
@rennedelorean3341 5 жыл бұрын
@@LuisKolodin And that's your opinion, like I said "It's up to the individual" - I've never played a Fazioli or a Bosendorfer for that matter . . . to each his own. I've played alot of wonderful Steinways but, never one that just completely bowled me 'over' . . . and no two are ever completely alike. Back in the day when 'Penny Owsley' was the authorized dealership, (I stopped by on occasion) they had about ten (10) 8'11' Concert Grands next to each other, (all great pianos) but, ONE stood out from all the rest! The Salesperson watched me with a smile on his face . . . when I was through he looked at me as I pointed to my choice, he laughed and said "That one is my choice too!"
@jimmybuffet4970
@jimmybuffet4970 3 жыл бұрын
Which one is used in opera houses in Italy?
@margotmargot4426
@margotmargot4426 4 жыл бұрын
what about the keys, which piano has them more agile ..
@msmusicgroupllc5324
@msmusicgroupllc5324 4 жыл бұрын
Both amazing Instruments, have played both. I love the warmth of the Steinway and to my personal taste and Style it is the winner. Still, Very amazing sound and feel on both Instruments.
@richardwilliam8647
@richardwilliam8647 4 жыл бұрын
Fazioli is good for house as sound is smooth,low,romance. Steinway is for concert voice is louder that is what i know. Nevered tried steinway so this is wht i know but i tried fazioli. I personaly like Fazioli.
@anirutvideo
@anirutvideo 4 жыл бұрын
The S&S is like a humbucker pickup and Fazioli is like a P90 pickup.
@MarcusVinicius116
@MarcusVinicius116 3 жыл бұрын
Same quality. The two are magnificents.
@kenpeters9807
@kenpeters9807 3 ай бұрын
Oh great! I will judge using my iPad’s built in mini speakers.
@myless789
@myless789 2 жыл бұрын
What pieces where used in this video please?
@chrisp9859
@chrisp9859 2 ай бұрын
What I'm getting is: Steinway is more mellow and a stronger midrange presence Fazioli has higher highs and lower lows, sounds brighter.
@rothschildianum
@rothschildianum 4 жыл бұрын
If I had the money, I would get Fazioli. I played both often, and Fazioli is just in a different class. It was so easy to play, sound wise also better. There are many bad Steinway, but I have found bad Fazioli so far.
@poplarboydavid
@poplarboydavid Жыл бұрын
Which Chopin piece was this, please?
@nathansedgewick782
@nathansedgewick782 3 жыл бұрын
For me it totally depends on the pce. The Steinway seems better for the big power songs but the songs with notes needing to be heard are def better on the fazioli. I’m a faz fan myself
@iniputu
@iniputu 3 жыл бұрын
For me it totally depends on the price 🤑
@annabelboulton1227
@annabelboulton1227 6 жыл бұрын
Muy comparables ambos. Fazioli es muy expresivo, su sonido más delicado. Steinway tiene mejor resonancia. En general yo prefiero el Fazioli.
@ΠολυτροποςΟδυσσέυς
@ΠολυτροποςΟδυσσέυς 5 жыл бұрын
The action weight differentiates in treble and bass on Steinway pianos which makes the treble more expressive and the bass more powerful. Other than the manor of action I would say that Fazioli is superior in any other ways, the usage of better material and better craftsmanship likewise
@Charles-kq3ce
@Charles-kq3ce Жыл бұрын
this Steinway is amazing
@xavierbalzola863
@xavierbalzola863 Жыл бұрын
I am a long time Boesendorfer artist and indorser.....but recently have played the Fazioli F308....and I have to say I was completely floored....the F308 is 275K...but worth ...EVERY PENNY...
@js-hq3wx
@js-hq3wx 4 жыл бұрын
I want to know which the first pieces is?
@paolosalvatore4336
@paolosalvatore4336 4 жыл бұрын
Stenway 1853, Fazioli 1981, è già miracoloso che una fabbrica giovanissima come la Fazioli, possa competere, e per molti vincere, con una fabbrica che ha 177 anni di storia.
@rockon416
@rockon416 3 жыл бұрын
Steinway is very nice with warm brilliant sound. Fazioli about the same but louder.
@jonash3251
@jonash3251 4 жыл бұрын
I had the privilege to play both and I love both, but I must say that the transparent, crystal clear, sparkly tone of the higher octaves on the fazioli was not from this world!
@abupavarico5216
@abupavarico5216 5 жыл бұрын
Both piano sounds good, but comparing their sound is difficult. Best not listen through audio on any format, instead listen it close and live directly from the piano itself. Play it with the same pianist, the same place and same song. Cause every piano have different unique sound. also every piano have a different sound and characteristic, although the same brand and type
@aoNguyen-vy2jt
@aoNguyen-vy2jt 5 жыл бұрын
I like Fazioli 👍👍👍
@TurandotFanatic
@TurandotFanatic 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunatelly we can see clearly that are different pianists playing the same parts. Fazioli pianist appears to me to use more the sustain (sostenuto) pedal, and didn't play each note with same care as Steinway pianist (he/she lets some notes carelessly played on Fazioli instrumento). Also there's a difference between the microphone adjust on both pianos. But is a good video anyway, that confirms what I feel: Fazioli and Bösendorfer are pianos more brillant than Steinway, but this last one has the sound more uniform, it sounds from bottom to top notes and you say that it is a unique instrument. Fazioli sounds like two (with dense graves and middle, strange top notes) and Bösendorfer like three instruments (bottow is very "dense", middle is magnificent, and top is so brillant that sometimes appears to another instrument. I love them all, anyway!...
@funtasticreview3531
@funtasticreview3531 3 жыл бұрын
Number 1 is fazioli Second is bechstein And the others etc
@studentjohn35
@studentjohn35 4 жыл бұрын
Try testing the F278 against a NEW YORK D274.
@frazzledude
@frazzledude 4 жыл бұрын
I own a New York Steinway D274 and a Fazioli f308, and have them both in the same room along with a Bosendorfer 290 imperial grand. The Fazioli with its longer strings and soundboard has more acoustic power than the Steinway. The Steinway has a lovely rich tone, while the Fazioli has a very clean, clear tone. Overall, I would not say that one is better than the other. It is an “apples and oranges” comparison based on what the piano is being used for at any given time.
@brendanlal5174
@brendanlal5174 4 жыл бұрын
What’s the first piece?
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