Stellantis's Inventory Problem Getting Worse! 2023's Still Sitting

[@RacerX9]

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[@zachery8841]

Thanks Racerx. I entered this one. Oooo weeee. Let’s gooo

[@petegeorge6605]

Those eyes, brother, would you leave some women for the rest of us? Not fair lol🍻

[@BGMofo]

… Can’t help yourself … Stop peddling your dealership … It’s their fault for having so much inventory for “overcharging” customers … … Not even when someone name drops “RacerX” …

[@BGMofo]

… Seeing as how you’re always trying to sell their cars … … Tell them to give “RacerX” subscribers a 20% discount take some losses for all the people they did manage to “overcharge” in the past …

[@RacerX9]

@@ragnarlothbrok6240 Then don't watch.. WTF? Your time ... LOL! You clearly don't understand KZbin analytics!

[@DAVIDANDREWSPTUK]

All they need to do is drop the price, drop the price, drop the F price! I will buy a challenger right away, even considering an RT as I want that V8, but they wont drop the price.

[@ApriltonBoy]

Exactly!!

[@ItsBlurrs]

i mean they are $30k now im not sure how much less you can expect to get a v8 muscle car. now the widebody 392/hellcats and demons are definitely way too much

[@marcguevara162]

This last quarter for them is done… just take the loss and fire sale these damn things…. I’ll get one then.

[@TJOLLYRANCHER]

​@@ItsBlurrsnot 30k here in metro Detroit.

[@ItsBlurrs]

@@TJOLLYRANCHER never hurts to drive a city/state over to find the right deal

[@windwalker121]

$118K for a new Durango Hellcat? Lesson still not learned, I see.

[@joeshmoe2746]

Someone will buy those up

[@grinningg]

who needs a hellcat Durango?!!!

[@BigJoe5.0]

Doubt it. They will be sitting for a long time ​@joeshmoe2746

[@nolimitsoldier11111]

I do lol ​@@grinningg

[@brianenochs]

​​@@joeshmoe2746Yeah, sure, they will for $25k under msrp, lol ...

[@zillaf1840]

Dodge dealers need to decide if they prefer an $82,000 car sitting on their lot for 2 years or have $60,000 in their pocket

[@musclecars92]

Exactly if they lower the price or offer A.Decent discount.I'm pretty sure they could move those cars.

[@apathy11303]

The main issue is that alot of these cars are still over msrp

[@josebrown5961]

I can’t believe they got that many cars just sitting on the lot. It doesn’t look to me like they should keep making high hp V8s because they can’t sell the ones they have!

[@stevenbean9706]

forget 80 these cars arent worth 25

[@johnj.baranski6553]

They can carry that car a long time at there low floor plan interest before having to take a 20000 haircut.

[@Blues-man.]

Never had any experience with a honest car dealer or salesman in 60 years. They’re all greedy.

[@BigJoe5.0]

I've had several good salesmen over the years however it's the damn finance managers that try their hardest to rip you off with rates and added warranties.

[@MichaelSmith-kr9qw]

Our local DCJR dealer is pretty damn good, they will go above and beyond in my honest opinion whether it is sales or parts or repair. They are low volume store in N Texas and we are his bread and butter, so his reputation is on the line. We had a new owner come in years ago and he tried the big city tactics and we ran him out of town real fast the old owner came out of retirement and has been here ever since.

[@kdavid123186]

Well don't get mad at them. I see sales as being wolf in sheep cloth. When you have hard sale customer you let them have it. But when you see easy target you go for the throt. Its how they make money. You have all the information to not get tricked, it's on you

[@BigJoe5.0]

@kdavid123186 this is true. Most people just don't know how to say no (I've been guilty of this before, too)

[@kdavid123186]

@BigJoe5.0 I think we all learn more from getting burned in person. My first purchase was terrible too. Now I make salesman mad everytime. I don't take it seriously as I would be mad too if I can't make good commission too. Hardest part is walking away from deal if you really like the car. But I work too hard for my money, if I don't get the deal I want I walk no problem

[@ecigaccessory4792]

I am a Stellantis supplier. So we make casting machine product for them. The management teams there have completely destroyed the company most suppliers hate them and hate working with them. They are pathetic when it comes to launching projects and programs and their whole company is in shambles. Peugeot did a horrible job. They should all be fired

[@Kevin19700]

Amen Brother!

[@cero1258]

I just got a new 2023 Scat Pack Challenger from a dealer at $41,000 ($12,000 off) which is 22% off. 24 miles on it from them moving it around the lot, they also checked the batteries and ran diagnostics for free. I feel like I got a great deal.

[@TheEdshemery]

How did they manage the warranty? Do you get the factory warranty from date of purchase or date of birth?

[@bim_jean9997]

@cero1258 that is a great deal, congrats

[@cero1258]

@@TheEdshemery The warranty starts from date of purchase, so my warranty ends in 2030!

[@Matt.fxlrs666]

Whats your interest rate ?

[@bailey9r]

So it was 53K MSRP? Then it was worth 37,100 a year ago and now about 31200 and you paid 41 grand. You lost 10K on the way home. I guess it's good as long as you keep it. I am glad for you they gave even that much off, shows they know how much it depreciated sitting.

[@GunsAndThings]

I was looking to buy a new leftover 2023 challenger scat pack 1320 in Florida. On Autotrader they were discounting it $7,800 off sticker price. When I contacted the dealer and asked for an out the door price they came back with a $$ number that seemed way off. So I asked for a breakdown of the numbers and low and behold they had added in a $3995 Mopar advantage package, plus another fee of $1495 listed as “non taxable fees” another $395 listed as “taxable fees”, then their $999 dealer fee, the sales tax, then a $295 service fee to register the car. ..I told them I will wait another 3 months and try again..

[@jpage99999]

And your experience my friend is the exact problem why they are where they are. The simple fact that they want to add all that extra stuff and not disclose up front makes me say Mopar never again will I buy from you. The flat out greed nickel and diming and gouging the consumer makes me want to never set foot in their dealership.

[@GunsAndThings]

@@jpage99999Luckily I tried making the deal via text message and email, they tried so hard to deny me a price unless I came into their dealership and took a test drive. I live over 2 hours from the dealership so I told them I wouldn’t come in until they gave me the OTD price. And when they finally gave me a price it was just a number with no explanation, that’s when I told them I needed a breakdown. I even tried to negotiate and told them to take off the junk fees and I would come in with a cashiers check on Nov 30th, but no deal. They have been texting me pretty much every day since asking me when I will be coming in to test drive the car 🤣😂 ..thanks for your comment.

[@Dustygoodz]

You must be in central florida? Was this car out In ocala?

[@richardschneider-f5y]

So basically $7300 in dealer markups 😀 and they can’t figure out why they’re not moving.

[@markrobert6014]

Buy before trump gets office or it will be 25 percent more, tariffs on canadain goods are gonna be past onto buyer

[@jabez623]

The prices are too high, the insurance is too high as well as the car notes

[@heartlessmadness8812]

Yea no lie, people seem to forget that part!!!!

[@Tearflavoredcereal]

Been on market place and ran into at least 2 people selling there brand new trucks because they figured out they can’t afford the payment 😂

[@Jason-ml3vs]

Here in FL, it’s not unusual for people to have car insurance premiums that are more than their car payment. It is truly unbelievable.

[@Avenue77]

I can't lie my insurance went up 4x and it's probably gonna go up one more time this month since Sleepy is still in office

[@BigJoe5.0]

Insurance on my 2024 mustang is cheaper than it was on my 2020 scat pack charger. My charger got stolen so I found out why

[@ChipDavis160]

In the heyday of "market adjustments" the past few years, I couldn't care less if ANY dealership goes bankrupt.

[@fuzzyguy90]

They got a taste of that pandemic shortage pricing and thought people would pay that for the end of time.

[@michelfortier9563]

2 months ago, I bought a 2023 Challenger RT with a MSRP of $48.2K. Drive out price including tax & title was $38K. I told the dealer that was my offer, take it or leave it. They took it.

[@TridentRushed]

That’s awesome man, I definitely overpaid when I bought my 2020 RT in early 2023. Didn’t have enough money to spend $45k on a Last Call RT, so bought a used 2020 with only 1k miles. But I also spent about $41k out the door. My basic warranty is already up and the powertrain is about to be up soon, I regret that I didn’t wait for 2023 model prices to drop.

[@michelfortier9563]

@@TridentRushed I had to go 100 miles outside of Houston to get it. Was a very small town dealership. They had the car for 11 months and were tired of looking at it. Sold my 2023 LT1 I had ordered 12 months ago. Various issues I couldn't deal with. Love this car.

[@TridentRushed]

@@michelfortier9563 enjoy it boss it’s an excellent car. I’m addicted to the Sport mode button and hearing the active exhaust open up.

[@BBBILLY86]

Yep, deals are out there. July I got a new Last Call Scat T/A loaded. 63.7K sticker. Got it for 42k. Yes there were a few thousand in fees, charges, blah blah blah but knocking 22k off the car made that alot less of an issue. Bonus I'm refinancing currently and my interest is dropping from 9.3% to 5.75% so knocking a year off my payments and saving 9k in interest.

[@ig9628]

@@TridentRushedlook into getting Mopar maximum care. It’s a warranty backed by Mopar and you could extend your bumper to bumper for a good amount of time.

[@thetubeeleven11]

I don’t feel one bit sorry for Stellantis. Greed and poor quality vehicles have taken them down. I actually feel glad about how much power the consumer has, it’s great to see! Stellantis better get their heads out of their asses and return to making quality affordable cars that consumers actually want.

[@naturallawman2965]

Stellantis isn't the cause of this. Dealer greed is

[@roddycreswell8613]

​@@naturallawman2965stelantis most assuredly is the cause. Dealers didn't decide to make up cost of going electric by raising prices on cars that were actually selling. The fact they make a so called muscle car that runs on cell phone batteries with fake exhaust sound and premium trucks with economy engines aren't the dealers fault either.

[@chrismay2298]

They never made those.

[@mrwhamisrick]

"Poor quality" is not a correct statement. Per the NHTSA, of the big 3 Ford has the highest warranty and repair numbers followed by GM and them Chrysler Corp having the lowest.

[@roddycreswell8613]

Where's my comment youtube? I didn't use foul language, insult or threaten anyone, or call anyone names. I told the truth about the auto industry.

[@nascarnut00]

Getting rid of the coach doesn’t change anything if the rest of the team’s executives just continue to do the same thing. The whole executive board must change its approach.

[@davidx4590]

I DON'T FEEL SORRY for them!!!! I feel sorry for all those they've taken advantage of! It's called karma! Dealership greed has helped put them here....

[@chalkdog3095]

They all are hiding chargers and challengers. They can’t sell them but they refuse to drop the prices low enough to sell them.

[@davidporter7051]

I thought the problem is CDJR products aren't selling because they didn't come with a V8.

[@chalkdog3095]

@ they aren’t selling for a plethora of things. They basically overplayed there hand.

[@kenik2023]

​@davidporter7051 the V8's are the only ones being sold 😂 When they DO sell one😂

[@davidporter7051]

@@kenik2023 you must not pay attention to Stellantis videos. About 95% of the posters comments state the Stellantis products are not selling because V8'S are not available.

[@freedomringer23]

​@davidporter7051 wrong. Go look for yourself, there's thousands of them for sale. Hellcats and scat packs are dropping in price so fast over the past 6 months. Trust me...i bought my RT about 7 months ago and now the scat packs and hellcats are like 5 to 10 thousand dollars more than what I paid for my RT. The problem is that they priced 60,000 dollar cars at 120,000 or more. The scat pack was built how every challenger should have been and the RT should have been the lowest trim available and should have been priced around what the SXT was. People are realizing how saturated the market is and how fucked the loan APR is, on a already overpriced car. The manufacturers fucked the dealers and the dealers fucked the consumers and we all fucked ourselves by purchasing overpriced vehicles because we wanted what we wanted. It is what it is and im happy with my 5.7 RT. LET THE MODDING BEGIN!

[@JIMFED63]

Ridiculous prices end of story ! They will sit on their lots until they drop their prices drastically.

[@scottlagasse3182]

2023 Vehicles are worth no more than Trade in value at best.

[@johnmcmullen456]

Buy a new 2023 leftover today, drive it off the lot, and immediately it is, and has the value of a 2 year old used car.

[@EdwardBoicourtIV]

It's not just prices. These are cars you buy because you love them but knowing that as soon as you do someone is going to steal it is a killer

[@blakedmc1989RaveHD]

unless u do a Stick Shift Swap lol

[@CJDiecast]

"All of these Hellcats out here just chillin'." I'm surprised they haven't been stolen yet.

[@Jelsick]

They probably wouldn’t care. At least they can claim it on their insurance. It’s a cynical thing to say but it’s Dodge.

[@djt1789]

I just picked up a Charger SPWB for $14,800 under sticker. Place was straight forward and honest, no addon's just $500 doc fee. Best buyers experience I've had thus far.

[@82buffnasty]

Where?

[@williamallison8381]

That’s the kind of dealership I’m looking for. I’ve tried a few and every time its gets down to final price I get hit with thousands in dealer fees and add-ons and I just walk away.

[@edwincolon7782]

Where? Thx

[@djt1789]

@@edwincolon7782 Marcus at Flint Hills Dodge, Manhattan KS

[@johnbeckham1483]

@@djt1789 You received great customer service as that is what it is all about!

[@SuspenseESCAPEremastered]

"Lot rot" is a real problem - I would never buy a "new" 2-3 year old car.

[@BulletSpoung]

No matter how good of a deal you get, you will be forced to deal with a dealership that is out of money and will always give you the runaround on warranty work.

[@joeamith838]

i remember thinking Jeep was in trouble years back when they released the new model Grand Cherokee and raised the base price 10k to reach the "luxury" buyer. didn't raise the quality just the price

[@voxel999]

I saw Ford pulled incentives on 23 Broncos this month and dealers are stuck with them (mainly Raptors). Part of the problem has been CDJR dealers themselves and their markups and junk add-ons. I don't think Stellantis should save them.

[@runup510]

Another reason they're not selling is that no one wants all the smoke that comes with owning it. Really not worth it

[@tyrecarmon20]

Right. I'm going through the comments and some people have said what you have to do to secure it from thieves. Its alot of shit and headache i dont want to deal with

[@ajp368]

Let me know if I got a deal ,just picked up a new 2023 dodge challenger b5 hellcat jailbreak 15 miles on it, list price was $79970 I paid $55649 with tax and few dealer fees $60102 out the door , Dave smith motors idaho

[@LUVBYFEWHATEDBYMANY777]

👍🏽🦾💯🎯🫡,,,, u will neva pull that off in Southern California 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ajp368]

I had it shipped to nj $1345 , used here in nj they are asking a lot

[@xandersims1999]

Damn what did you say to finesse that? I’m looking to get the same deal

[@graisonpringle456]

56k vs 80 before fees is a great price you got it for scatpack wide body prices congratulations on the great price

[@rodzilla355]

I had a 2018 Challenger Hellcat. Sold it for a 24 Corvette. I liked the Vette but didn't love it. Actually I found it boring. Did some research and found a brand new 23 Challenger Jailbreak Hellcat. It was the exact color and options that I would have ordered back in 2023. Dealer gave me 15 under MSRP. It was made in April of 23. I bought the car and absolutely love it! Shop around and you will find the right car/deal. I used Tuttle Click in Irvine, CA they were amazing. A few other dealers in SoCal were still charging 10K over MSRP or would give 10K off but then add on 5K of unnecessary stuff like etching for cat converter or those stupid "theft deterrent" stickers that they place on body panels. Until certain dealers quit being greedy, these beautiful 2023's are going to continue to rot.

[@livinglife3230]

I got a ‘24 Vette also, it’s a good car but not great. I’ve gotta ‘17 Challenger Cat also. I think they’re the best of both worlds

[@mazzo99]

A dodge dealership in Va. had several Hellcat challengers with manual trannys, cloth interiors priced at 56K-58K and sold fairly quick.

[@youtubecarspottersguide1]

saw some of those no opt cars 717 hp HC Manuel very rare car maybe 300 -350 ever built for 2023 think there was 3301 demon 170s built

[@julionb87]

It was probably Koons. When the 2019 facelifted charger scat packs came out they had some 2018s left and were asking $31k for a few no-option cars. It was a crazy time right before the pandemic hit. I got mine locally in August of 2019 for $34,700.

[@mazzo99]

@ Yes it was!

[@youtubecarspottersguide1]

@@julionb87 yes it was

[@LSp8]

@@julionb87beautiful times unlike the constant fuckery we’re dealing with on a daily basis now. I miss the days of TrueCar pricing and PowerDollars!

[@ItsBlurrs]

they still have 2023 durango hellcats and chargers on lots. these prices are just too damn high for the same car 9 years in a row. obviously the new ones will sit longer than the v8s will

[@DejanJancevski]

I know several Chrysler dealerships that are still selling 2023 Chrysler 300's. In fact, I'm thinking of buying a 300S model.

[@rmnixon14]

Do it. You will love it!

[@Northern_DIY]

They are awesome cars i have a charger GT plus and my coworker has a 300s and he has almost 200k miles already just routine maintenance

[@LSp8]

Go for it! I always wanted a 300 and wanted one since I rented a new 2nd gen back in 2011, and it was just a V6 touring. Bought a couple Chargers and last December I randomly stopped by a closed dealership (DARCARS CDJR here in MD) around 1am as I was patrolling on night shift 🚔. Saw a black 392 300C sitting in the showroom and immediately returned the next day after I woke up in the afternoon. I wasted no time and now it’s sitting in my garage! Great car and I honestly love it as much as the Redeye parked next to it. The 300’s interior is better and my dealer had a couple of 300S 5.7 cars left too

[@DejanJancevski]

@@Northern_DIY My 2011 Avenger LUX already has 245,000+ miles on it. 😊 Great car for only $28,500 at the time.

[@DejanJancevski]

@@LSp8 thank you. I appreciate your response and opinion. I will look into buying the 300S in a few days time... Assuming, of course, it's still available.

[@poppyneese1811]

I retired from a company that produced cigars, mostly the kind you blunt (use to smoke weed). Probably 70% of our business was black folks, like the Dodge Chargers, brothers loved them, but when they left they were gone, hard to build a business on 13% of the population that are not brand loyal at all and looking for the next thing, also I’d say real inflation over the last 4 years with JB in office it’s killed folks with very limited incomes.

[@chrismay2298]

Nobody likes to admit this very real part of the issue. Sucks for Stellantis, but oh well.

[@ricksterbobolishious7523]

I'm waiting it out. These prices are just stupid. Overpriced by 30k on almost everything.

[@mikedaleiden7725]

Not surprised to see this in FL w/ all the horse$hit $10,000+ "advantage packages" that are getting tacked on to deals. Clearly enough buyers were dumb enough to pay them during the crunch and now dealers aren't so quick to let them go now. This is worst in Central FL, but i've seen various brands w/ these add-ons from Miami all the way up to Lake City.

[@jg9769]

Great vid X. Just want to point out there are 93 new Charger Hellcats for sale nationwide on Autotrader, so I don't think this dealership is very representative of overall Hellcat inventory.

[@lincolnls0416]

Noticed Charger stole and Copied off the 2015 Saleen Mustang just like the Camaro did.

[@andreww1212]

Most people also do not realize that if something breaks on them even just one little item requiring a part, it's next to impossible to get parts. There's a lead time of approximately 3 months. So, if you're in an accident or require anything you'll be waiting and waiting possibly without a car.

[@Harpazoed]

What’s the deal with the ugly pink trim on the front spoiler? I don’t get it.

[@Harpazoed]

It’s because they are trying to be politically correct lol 😂 get rid of the politically correct. It’s a joke

[@paulvincent3825]

Those Cadillacs blow away anything on the Dodge lot. Just compare the interiors to see for yourself.☹️☹️☹️

[@Smasher-Devourer]

Inventory is probably sitting because of all of the "specials" dealerships have been offering to draw in customers for them to find out they also are being forced to buy other services they don't want that make up the difference. It most likely caused people to walk away and avoid them all together. Not to mention they're the most stolen car in America.

[@Nick.random]

It's the fault of the dealers marking up. That was a very short term hustle during a weird time in history. They still think that's the price. Dealers are scumbags.

[@nbrownchicago]

I'm amazed people would buy a hellcat at the same price that can get a Blackwing.

[@jg9769]

New CT5 V Blackwings regularly go for 115-130k MSRP. Only a handful are available for less than 100k. Charger Hellcats average 85-95k with the most expensive Redeye maxing out at $102k. So quite a big difference.

[@davem5494]

Hilarious, you show several Hellcat Chargers at one dealer. In the whole of Canada, according to Dodge Canada website, there are TWO left. Twenty four Scat Pack Chargers. There are 8 Scat Pack Challengers and 26 Hellcat Challengers of the various trims. Gotta love the genius that decided how many cars Canada got to keep. In December 2022, Canadian order banks were not open for Scat Packs and when they did finally open they could not guarantee I would get or find what I wanted. I ended up ordering a 2 door Wrangler Rubicon..lol. Traded that a year later for a '24 Mustang GT premium.

[@AK.__]

I think, since 2015, i saw max 3 of Dodge Hellcats in the GTA area. Huge amount or GTs, some Scat Packs and RTs even rarer than Scat Pack.

[@rikwilkinson1451]

Same here in mtl. Can’t find even a used charger rt within 100kms radius

[@AK.__]

@@rikwilkinson1451 People are keeping them. There are no affordable replacement for them among similar or other full size sedans with same specs.

[@chrismay2298]

@@AK.__ They're keeping them because their notes are for FAR more than they're worth...

[@Aggie4life77]

So let me get this right. There are 2023 Hellcats just sitting on the lots in almost 2025? So this is more about how much these cars cost and not that there are no more V8’s.

[@DarkLordsDadicorn]

Don't forget the insurance, insurances are now charging extra for all chargers and challengers to own. Because people have wrecked so many of them, and people started stealing them regularly. So even if they lower the prices, it will still be hard for people to willingly pay hundreds more in insurance.

[@HemiDrak-n2q]

Let them rot. Only the greedy dealers still have the 23 chargers and challengers on their lots. Maybe Stellantis would give a better rebate if they hadn’t had all the markups on them. I bet if they would have been selling them at MSRP from jump they would have all been gone a long time ago. GREED

[@Joe-n4e8e]

2023 being sold in 2025 is absolutely ridiculous and unheard of!! Hope those brand spanking new 2023s are still on their freaking lots in 2027 for them being so so greedy.

[@relljav]

On their way to falling in line right behind Nissan

[@artillerybuff2000]

Thank you for keeping us informed RacerX, you are APPRECIATED!

[@MariDiGennahVLOGS]

Number 1 issue= PRICES!!!

[@WRR689]

I just bought a 2019 Ram Lonestar Edition. Roomy decent options and V8 was taken care of. We'll see how it goes. I am looking to get 200k to 300k. Most driven on HWY, and I do not put my foot in it.

[@robertratliff6030]

They want MSRP or above yet if you lost your mind and bought one of the chargers, your resale value would drop by 3 model years. 23,24,25. It makes no sense to purchase until a real fire sale happens. Buying today vs 12 months from now, you will still have to have all the fluids flushed , the tires replaced, the battery replaced, and maybe the exhaust. You would have to treat these "new cars" like a barn find.

[@Steebve]

They needa drop the price by 20k imo. 30k is the most id spend on any vehicle if it has all the features.

[@richki.24]

they need a K-Mart Blue Light Special deal ...... 65% off especially if it's a 2023 that's been sitting ....

[@freegrazer]

I bought couple years ago a 2022 charger pursuit hemi with 170 miles on it from a dealer. Was a great deal but I had to go to Georgia to get it. The car drives like a nascar. Love it.

[@Marcel71]

The Dodge/Ram dealership here in Waldorf MD has massive discounts on all their 2024 and older vehicles. They just started this in last week.

[@yippydippy6589]

Just bought a new 2023 Charger RT Daytona. At 3k miles, throwing engine codes and had to limp it off the highway last night. Bad beginning.

[@arhzee3310]

I purchased a 23 Last Call Challenger a few months ago, window sticker was over 61k, got it for 46, 5.9% financing and they delivered it. Buying a new 2 year old car has it’s benefits, you’re going to get a good deal and you’ll have relatively low mileage after a couple years of driving.

[@chrismay2298]

It's now worth the trade in value of a two year old car... You're underwater from the start.

[@arhzee3310]

23 was the last of the Hemi. You can’t get a newer one.

[@renegadezen7841]

I work at a Mazda dealership and can confirm the margins on new cars are surprisingly thin. Most the money is made on accessories, used cars, and service

[@chriswin1st]

You nailed it. They need to send some incentives to the consumers. Test drove and want to purchase the 2023 Challenger scat pack from dealer but wow wee the price is so high that it's almost in Corvette 1lt territory!

[@davidsmith4186]

Good! Overpriced and let them set. With all the warranty issues from every tier, let them set.

[@tcjorge2007]

They want like 70k for a car that will depreciate 50% or more in a year

[@ericwiliiams9540]

Just went to their website out of curiosity. Those Hellcats are still sitting there because they're asking $3,000 over MSRP. Pure insanity.

[@martinmurphy4852]

Its been so long since legitimate market forces have applied to them that they have forgotten how to do business when they do

[@ThorsHammer88]

I’ve been wanting to buy a Charger or Challenger for years now but refuse to pay the ridiculous prices. I haven’t seen any deals in my area.

[@josedelarosa6449]

Not just lot rot, warranty usually starts when they're put on the lot. Does that mean warranty is half gone, just sitting there?

[@coreybryant2415]

Does that change anything cause of the vehicle age if it a 22 cause I want a dodge Durango R/T a 2017 don't want anything new or a year like that

[@arctictruck10]

My parents bought a 2005 Chrysler Crossfire SRT brand new in 2008 and there was a huge inventory just sitting back then and here history repeating itself.

[@dougsharkey5087]

Bought a 2023 charger scat pack super bee this past weekend. It had been on the lot since September 23….. was in the showroom and battery was dead and they had issues charging it. Had to get a new battery. Car seems to be in good shape though, has 1300 miles. Got a monstrous discount…

[@mr.charles5589]

How much

[@dougsharkey5087]

They had it for 68k (w/dealer add ons) for most of 2023 and I guess for a bunch of this year…. Sticker was 64k….. got it for $54,800

[@mr.charles5589]

@@dougsharkey5087 55k out the door?

[@berky1976]

I found that TA Scat Pack 2023 on their website still for sale. They are claiming the MSRP on that is 75,215... that is just stupid. They are trying to sell it for 67k, which is why they are still on the lot. I priced that same spec of F8 Green TA Scat Pack in 2019 and I priced it at 49k, that is how dumb Dodge has gotten in what they expect these cars to be valued as. You can buy some VERY nice vehicles that will run circles around this thing for 67k. This is partly why these cars are just sitting around collecting dust. They've priced these vehicles outside of their value window and outside of the market they should be in. They aren't luxury and they really aren't performance when compared with others at that price point. They are muscle cars, which I think is awesome, just not at this ridiculous price point. The super stocks are listed at well over 100k, like 120-140k. That puts those in line with super cars that would make them look stupid on any track in the world and many would beat them in the 1/4 on an unprepped surface.

[@Biganttheplug]

Even if they drop the prices you still have to worry about insurance price and peace of mind because how easily they get stolen.

[@kerry_glock]

Love The Black Wing with that Black Hood Treatment. How’s K9 X doing? Been out of touch for awhile.

[@eugenepiurkowski5439]

Why did that dealer order so many cars? Hometown motors, here in New England, has a couple 2023s left and over half of the inventory is in 2025s.

[@justSTUMBLEDupon]

BIG QUESTION for you : What do we look out for if we buy a brand new BUT 2 year old car? A car that has been sitting on the car lot for almost if not more than 2 years? She we even bother buying a 2023 brand new anything?

[@smitty858]

Tim is back!!! Bring on the Hemi!!!

[@jedlevron]

Our local dealer in Louisiana has an SRT Durango for $84k, sold out of other new cars. They have 5 new cars on the lot. They have a few used but not many. Ram and Jeep has plenty.

[@GST623-]

They’re pricing them like they’ve already appreciated in value. Maybe in 5 years if they never come back but they should be heavily discounted right now.

[@naturallawman2965]

I actually got into an argument with a dealer of this exact thing. Pricing them like they are collector's items. There's a reason why TRX's are still sitting there rotting @ sticker price years after.

[@thejltech1099]

I’m a tech and we have a couple 23 v6 chargers and gladiators left. My dad was looking into the charger and I want one of our gladiators. The prices they gave me even being a employee I was like there no f’n way.

[@MichaelDozier-j1b]

TK claims real discounts (from Stella) will be announced shortly to meet the 100,000 year end goal Stella set months ago. Believe it when I see it.

[@JohnLittlepage]

Lot rot, new older models, banks aren’t touching them

[@n2ufc1]

Last Dodge dealership I went to, the car had a 15k markup so I went and got a Mustang with NO markup.

[@verginsergin]

You'd upside down on that 2023. It's literally 2 years old. It would lose a ton of value once you drive it off the lot.

[@kyruntyree3891]

Probably going to lose 30k time u drive off the lot ☹️

[@chrismay2298]

Exactly. These poor suckers are in here thinking they got a killer "deal"... Insanity.

[@bedvyr]

Prices on Chargers and Challengers are still ridiculous. Guess that's about the only thing they can still sell... so they're discontinuing them...

[@josorzo11]

Looking to buy a Ram rebel 2023 with 1300 miles, truck still has $1500 worth of add ons … asking price is 59k and they will not negotiate.

[@danielmarquez4935]

Gorgeous Cars but I’m not into giveaways…in my experience they usually go to someone who knows somebody who knows someone in the giveaway… I usually just donate to charities that actually help people in need 100% nonprofit. I once saw a man walking with no shoes and floor was over 115 degrees so I took off my brand new Nikes and gave them to that man after I bought him some food in the gas station…

[@recyclespinning9839]

Chrysler customer service refused to help with my under warranty Ram1500 when the check engine/limp mode kept coming on. I brought it in under warranty 5x for same problem. The dealer did nothing, kept coming back to limp mode, cam phaser issues . Had to turn it in at lease end , obviously I didn't do the buy out because it went just over 36,000 miles , in the mean time. The rudeness of the manager in service department told me, "out of warrenty " after I brought in under warranty 5x. Serves you right Chrysler for stealing 3 years lease payments and promising me the buy-out price. I wonder if they did on purpose , because my buy-out price was $22k, market values went up and I think market value was over $27k in 2020 . They need to go out of business.

[@HighTechBull]

Go to a different dealer.

[@davidhechler5882]

I'm a 74 year old MOPAR guy who has owned two hellcats along with a couple 392 cars. I am no longer buying MOPAR. I am a BMW guy now. Why spend over 100K for ANY hellcat vehicle when you can use that money to buy a BMW M car that is more luxurous and way better build quality? It's a shame that some rich American or American company would purchase Dodge from Stillantis and bring back the MOPAR muscle cars. It's sad to see Chrysler go under. I suspect it will go under and be no more, just like Plymouth went under.

[@Hats1976]

So 2 years of the warranty is gone, or does the warranty kick in when the car is purchased? I'm not sure how that would work on a new 2 year old vehicle

[@capricetony]

I would love to have a narrow body, Challenger Scat Pack, I know things go up be dealers still playing games. Love a B5 Blue or Frostbite Shaker, any leads on dealer willing to “try” to be normal please let me know

[@richki.24]

the Dodge dealer near me has 6 2023 Chargers on the lot but they are the SXT but they aren't cheap ..

[@Kilnor]

@racerx9 have you seen the ads for Jaguar 00?

[@zillacon1]

Gonna take massive incentives. Between poor quality, lot rot, over pricing and the damage done by scammy dealers its gonna take a lot to change peoples minds who were burned. As a Floridian I refuse to buy a vehicle down here because of scam dealers and their markups and add ons. Ive purchased my last 6 out of state and it was always well worth the money and with a better buying experience.

[@melvinjacobs2328]

O live in Oklahoma, and there aren't any dealers in the Oklahoma City area that have more than one or two Chargers left. Some have none.

[@Iwannadrive]

You said it. A $3000 incentive on a leftover two year old car is an insult. Especially when they kept raising the price more than $3000 over the previous years.

[@RCWrightX89]

These car manufacturers charging $118k for a car. In would love to see the cost breakdown. Includinga breakdown of overhead. Now remeber their are no new tariffs. Why these cars cost so much? Inflation is not blanket. These cars are not manufactured in the USA.

[@sashimijones]

Drop the price and lower insurance rates. I was looking into getting a 392 or a Mustang GT and the insurance cost + price difference would’ve cost me an extra $500 a month. Absolutely ludicrous.

[@matthewczeropski4734]

Thank you Racer X

[@Karrpilot]

Harley Davidson dealers do the same things. 2 years old units, unsold, wanting over list prices. Complete with aftermarket junk bling.

[@danc2014]

Motorcycles have always been sold new years after the production date. They do not have as much changes as a car.

[@karrpilot7092]

@@danc2014 Only a fool would pay list prices or over for a 2 year old unsold unit. I realize that motorcycles don't change much year to year, however, the dealers think that they are sitting on gold. Harley Davidson dealers will fold up, go out of business, and never have a sale. They would rather let another dealership absorb their stock than to ever give a customer any sort of deal.

[@ronaldwarner5206]

At this point you have to buy a gently used scat of hellcat to get the best deal. The prices on these are crazy because the msrp is crazy then you deal with dealer markups on top of the list price you see online

[@taurazwilliams3753]

What dealership is that ??