Stephanie Seymour's DISTURBING model story..

Stephanie Seymour's DISTURBING model story..
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[@KarineAlourde]

“Probably the most important piece of advice that I've ever gotten is to develop your mind. I left school very young and I always regretted it.” - Stephanie Seymour Naomi Campbell flight logs! why I think she was actually a victim 👀 kzbin.info/www/bejne/kHbTqKR5i52jaJo

[@rlabarbera]

You should cover model Carre Otis. She wrote a good memoir.

[@1daySomeday]

I absolutely love and value your iconic master piece videos you post as it has become quite the labyrinth of information as a bookless library i like to call it, my audio books as i get to multi - task be it knitting ,crocheting , cleaning , soaking in the bath on a wintery stormy night by candle light - while tuning in to your channel. Thank you for your talent share world wide to us all!

[@RaspberryPiaestheticss]

Can you make a video on Amanda bynes

[@franjohnson6140]

Ok..now you are doing bios on these models and not looking at the full picture! These women got millions, married or had decent relationships and are almost 60 so they have money and memories! Nuf said! But keep on telling the stores!

[@geewizwiz3]

Could you do videos on Tyler Collins, Pebbles and Karyn White

[@GhosstRyder]

I will NEVER understand how these parents fell for these Groomers lies! My dad had a “friend” (now I realize he was a pedo file) that kept pushing my dad to have my sister and I go into modeling. My dad shut him down real quick. I resented my dad as a young girl but when I became a mom I thanked him. If parents don’t protect their children no one else will.

[@danavixen6274]

Thank God your father protected you and your sister. 🙏🏾

[@Aieshoo]

They pimped out their children or never cared about them to begin with.

[@robertstates6538]

There's also morhers who will use they dauters to get a man

[@Elizabeth-yg2mg]

A couple different friends of my dad used to ask to have me over--one invited me to stay a whole summer and another weekends with them and their families. My dad refused and I was disappointed but now I see that he was protecting me.

[@kathyphillips1272]

It's easy to say you don't understand how people can fall for their lies but it's only NOW that you realise your father's friend was a groomer...so that's how easy it is to groom children because you said it yourself, you resented your father at the time. Those types of actor's are the masters of deception and therefore can fool anyone that doesn't have a trained eye. The world will learn this soon enough.

[@kelleennordquist5697]

I was 18 in 1981 and modeling in Minneapolis....I cant' even tell you how bad it was with teens. If you werent' sleeping with photographers, to agents, you went NOWHERE...needless to say, i left the industry in my early 20's. It was horrible.

[@christinakinne9790]

Good for you smart move.

[@lorrainekelleher6937]

We just experienced a groomer Take child away from her parents, with their permission. Disgusting

[@filippocorti6760]

Jeez, that's awful. I hope you are well.

[@Rye_Toast]

I was scouted by the Casablancas agency in the early 90s and I am so glad that I was like "nah thanks." I already knew I really wasn't what they were looking for and I had heard so many horror stories.

[@pinkaholic09]

I had 3 top agencies in Los Angeles for print work, commercials, music videos. I went to Tokyo for a commercial ad and flew first class. I got callbacks on all my auditions. I couldn't do it. The superficiality of it all was the opposite of who I am. I wasn't willing to play the game and was unhappy . The drugs, the late nights and the seediness of the entertainment industry was repulsive to me so to be true to myself I quit and never looked back. You HAVE to sacrifice your integrity to be successful in this industry. You're treated like a piece of meat....

[@dianaroach3093]

Warning to parents.....never let your CHILD out of your sight.

[@californiagirl1579]

Yes amen🙏🏽 I totally agree

[@kumaranvij]

No, that's taking it too far. Teach them well, and let them have more and more freedom as they get older - they're going to need to know how to stand on their own two feet. By the time they're 18, they should know how to get around by themselves and how to handle themselves in different situations. Too many parents these days treat their teenagers like babies, and then when they go off to college they have no idea how to act responsibly. They use their newfound freedom to do all sorts of dumb things. It's a parent's job to help their kids grow up, not to prevent them from experiencing life. Let them know they can come to you with any issues and if they've made mistakes it's OK, you will be there for them. Give them the information to know how to handle what comes, like when gross old men hit on them.

[@Karen-e1f]

Yes, NO overnight ANYTHING.

[@ST-rj8iu]

even with other kids their age. definitely not with older children.

[@kumaranvij]

@@Karen-e1f I really think that's unreasonable, and you risk alienating your kids and driving them away. They won't feel you understand them or their needs, they might not feel comfortable talking to you, and might even rebel and become a "minister's daughter" or "Catholic school girl" type girl who sneaks out and wants to try forbidden things.

[@spaceengineer1452]

Focusing on body parts instead of spiritual, is why people are so shallow and unhappy.

[@Tenebarum]

Especially very edited photos with fake body parts.

[@spaceengineer1452]

@@Tenebarum No, just body over mind is a mistake. Material over spiritual.

[@crystalsherman8896]

True

[@robertstates6538]

When it comes to laying down with a woman, ill take the fit thighs and ass EVERY TIME

[@pinkaholic09]

Social Media is toxic.

[@MrBg76]

You should do a video on Karen Mauder. She was a Supermodel of the 90's and a Victoria Secret Angel. She accused the agency owners of rape . Her career went downhill ...

[@rlabarbera]

Carre Otis too.

[@noellee.valencia760]

I second this! Karen Mulder was definitely an iconic 90’s supermodel. Loved her!! And she has an interesting story

[@johnayalachef]

Yes, that poor woman is still a recluse because of assault.

[@rib.7809]

YES!!!!!!!! Karen was one of my favorites! From what I understand... she had a mental breakdown 🙁 She's definitely one that needs coverage please!

[@AlanSenzaki]

more bubble butt😮

[@Aieshoo]

Sexual abuse seems like a right of passage in Hollyweird.

[@lindsjg313]

💯💯💯 it's so accepted and normalized and it blows my mind

[@bongodave13]

It's more common in churches.

[@Weeeewriter]

I'm sorry but if my son's hand was on my boob, it would not be ok.

[@judithcoloma613]

The last time my son's hand was on my boob was when he was breastfeeding at six months.

[@christinegatto7426]

Don't be sorry, you're right.

[@valiasa-di6hr]

I think both her sons are openly gays. One of them passed away though.

[@Weeeewriter]

That's the sad part.@@valiasa-di6hr

[@dalehoward3704]

Did you do Christy Turlington yet???

[@talitam.8414]

14!?!? Holy shit...It's not a relationship that's a case of statutory rape.

[@EVL-xj5vc]

16

[@maiya5952]

Definitely not Holy

[@aleeshak9897]

The entire entertainment industry is like this. I’ve been a model since the 90s nothing has changed.

[@CristinaRivas-y6v]

Why does anyone stay then?!

[@silentalliance3269]

@@CristinaRivas-y6vbecause deep doen they justify the debased immorality & put it down to being a "victim" or that this is part of the industry" thhat keeps us from actualy working

[@filippocorti6760]

Use spy CIA/KGB tactics to get the goods on the bad guys.

[@24Wynn]

​@@CristinaRivas-y6v$$$

[@Pam-b6r]

​@user-wy7wt4jl7d money?

[@marcellaraya1083]

There are “fashion editorials” of Adriana Lima completely nude from the waist up at 16 in the 90s. It wasn’t unheard of. There should be child protection for minors in entertainment/fashion.

[@avalondreaming1433]

What about 12 year old Brooke Shields. She even posed for some kind of secret edition of Pedo Playboy.

[@miinfl7143]

It was so prevalent, like 80s wild child Emma Ridley stripping on the catwalk, 16 year old page 3 girls and Nastassja Kinski playing sexpot roles at age 15.

[@valiasa-di6hr]

@miinfl7143 Nastassja Kinski was sexually abused by her father Klaus when she was a child. She had extremely abusive and horrible childhood to start with. No wonder she never developed her own boundaries. Not to mention the dad was also a very famous actor who had very disturbing nude pics of him and his daughter as a young child, but at these times they were considered art, although they are utterly disgusting 🤢. These pics are still in the internet and everyone can see them.

[@kweenz109]

@@miinfl7143brooks shields too.

[@user-ke8st8jc1v]

Well ,when you insist on modeling and being famous and when you don’t want to miss that opportunity in life then you do what you need to do ,you know the rules of the game

[@gemartsiha]

The fashion industry is so disturbing…

[@lydiapicano8806]

Just because you're beautiful and rich it doesn't mean that everything is ok. I don't understand how her parents could've allowed her to go to France at 14 to model without one of them being present. Her relationship at 16 with a man in his 40's is in no way normal and neither is the kissing and frolicking on the beach with her son gay or not. It is tragic she lost her other son to drugs.

[@kumaranvij]

Believe it or not, many thought this was a "dream come true." They (teenage girls) thought they would love such an experience, and parents thought it would be both fun and a good opportunity for their kids.

[@lydiapicano8806]

@@kumaranvij I'm sure but, you should never ever allow your underage child to go away without you . They are too vulnerable and no match for those creepy adults.

[@NadezdaBeka]

Same. Even as an adult with some small gigs in handling flyers or other "modeling" jobs my parents would still nag at me if I was supposed to work in an unknown/shady part of the city while they let their child in a different continent.

[@kumaranvij]

@@lydiapicano8806 Well, what I wrote before is how it was thought of then. I definitely think we (I'm 45) had an unhealthy view of it back in the 80s and 90s. However, never to let your kid go away without you is extreme. After all, they'll be away from the house altogether eventually, and they'll need practice so they can learn how to live without their parents always being there. I think sleepovers are good, with other girls, when you're a kid. And when I was 16, I stayed for a month with a French friend in France and Spain. It was such a wonderful, enriching experience. I learned about myself and the world, got to experience something new. Nothing bad happened. Her family was very trustworthy. When I was 17, I spent a month backpacking in Greece with my best friend. "Small" bad things happened to me. I went out once without her at night and a bunch of boys surrounded me and felt me up! Over my clothes. But though I still remember it and it was a negative experience, it wasn't what I'd call traumatic. It was definitely a learning experience. I think communication between parent and child is key. I didn't have that with my mom, and I wish I had. But people have to start separating from their parents. It should happen little by little, not all at once when they finally leave the house at 18 or so.

[@lydiapicano8806]

I agree with you to a point but a sleepover with a trusted family is one thing and allowing your 14 yr old daughter to go to Europe with strangers is another. A parent needs to protect their children while allowing them to grow and experience life ( not easy).

[@pagemastrogiovanni9195]

Since I grew up in this time and was trying to model during this time, I know firsthand how MOST people didn’t actually know these girls were as young as they were. My mom felt models were just a step away from a call girl and did her best to discourage this career or life. Since I was valedictorian (like Cindy Crawford) of the top high school in the nation, my mom encouraged me to follow that route. She was right I later learned. Did you do Supermodel Karen Mulder, who was put in a mental institution after she claimed the French wing of Elite pimped her (and other models) out to dignitaries, photographers, and other rich men? It's a very interesting story.

[@aprillechalisse]

I was thinking the same thing. I NEVER knew they were teenagers. But, I was modeling in some scandelous things at 18. Nothing with my whole behind out though.

[@NadezdaBeka]

I assumed that they were teens because the industry encourages girls to start at 14 for decades. I don't know a single supermodel besides Doutzen and some nepo girls that started at 18. It's not attractive to be old enough to have basic boundaries I guess. It's slightly less bad that back then grown women who look like grown women were famous, then the Russian doll trend in the 2000s got concerning and since then a childlike look is the most desirable.

[@MygirlsGJPB]

So the modeling field is pretty much sex trafficking.

[@xanderpromeo]

And the yacht parties.

[@tooma4886]

Wow, what high school?

[@Saintm-lk5iu]

I came from a strict background, none of these things were/are acceptable or appropriate.

[@zzizahacallar]

Same. The way I was raised. I hug and kiss my daughters but nothing to the extent Seymour and her son.

[@californiagirl1579]

Exactly

[@susandonahue865]

Parents let her go to Casablanca flavor camp 🎪🤡 .. Please pray for humanity 🙏🏼🕊🕊🕊

[@egypt3304]

Amen

[@Aieshoo]

They pimped her out.

[@lovelymix8056]

Stephanie doesn’t regret her time with John Casablanca

[@KBeth35]

Dang, it is crazy that we have a name for that now. I mean I guess gr00ming but flavor camp is more specific. Crazy thing is that these people after these people grow older they don't have bad feelings towards everyone who allowed it to happen. I guess it's bc they became rich and powerful. How many didn't actually become famous but went through "flavor camp" they definitely have bad feelings for them. Our society is wild.

[@zofiajutro7930]

​@@lovelymix8056 You don't know it. Probably she was on drugs and doesn't remember much. Why do you think she had panic attacks?

[@getsmart9987]

Having grown up in the 80’s I can tell you the super model phenom came at us gradually and it was always assumed these ladies were old enough to be in the industry. It wasn’t until years later that we all found out how young they were, and by then…well it was too late.

[@mariabonitastudio81]

😢

[@2009socalgal]

I agree…it wasn’t easy for us to know their ages back then (no internet, etc) so I also assumed all these models were of age.

[@ndnaf3705]

Her hair insane! Absolutely beautiful.

[@Phoenixhunter157]

Agreed. It’s just not fair 😂😂😂

[@Kelli999]

My Uncle was her hairdresser before he came back to Australia. They're great friends. 😊

[@RosemaryOltarzewski]

Simply stunning 🎉

[@filippocorti6760]

I remember thinking years ago how lush her hair is.

[@MAGA-fe1dv]

I met her and not only was she lovely and kind and humble she looked so much better in person if you can believe that! She is the most beautiful person I have ever seen in my life! She is so beautiful but her beauty on the inside was unbelievable

[@j3suisd3]

⭐💛⭐

[@pinkaholic09]

She was always my all time favorite supermodel. So unique. So much character.

[@annathecook]

When you see a model in person, they really are a cut above and the pictures don't do them justice. I ended up sitting behind Tyra Banks at a basketball game, I think around 2003 or so, and she kept standing up and turning around because I think she was trying to get someone's attention (so I got a full view of all sides of her, hah). When I say that she was perfect, I mean, it was shocking. Just beautiful from head to toe in a way that the regular "pretty girls" aren't.

[@susieheywood1267]

@@annathecook I saw Tawny Kitaen shopping in the mid 90. She was not wearing any makeup and in overalls. She was probably one of the most beautiful woman that I had ever seen. Impressive. Also, she was being so nice to the sales gal and had a million watt smile.

[@annathecook]

@@susieheywood1267 I saw Salma Hayek at Whole Foods I think in the early 2000s in the valley in LA. I think she’s only about 5’2” but she was absolutely stunning.

[@carlosmark9840]

All these parents pimp their kids out for money and fame

[@Ric419]

She Was A Child! He was a narcissist!

[@EvelynBaron]

More like a predator

[@catsbenoit7750]

@@EvelynBaron, he was a predator and narcissist.

[@katemiller7874]

More like a horny old man

[@skat911]

Narcissists ARE predators!

[@JulieRushworth]

Most rapists are narcs

[@cocoaorange1]

That picture of her kissing her son is messed up, despite how innocent it might have been.

[@13lilsykos]

Here's the thing... it's a PICTURE. snapped at just the right moment. You know the photographers were making sure to use the worse looking ones. Haven't you ever heard "Don't judge a book by its cover"? I think it's weird to kiss your kids on the mouth but when I see that, I don't instantly think the parent is f-ing the child either.

[@markyshaffer156]

Her past situation in her time reminds me of an older Brooke Sheilds but not starting off as young as Brooke Shelids did! She kinda reminds me of her in a interesting way those situations are very similar it's unfortunate that her parents really took advantage!

[@KarineAlourde]

Yes me too

[@lisascorp]

​@KarineAlourde I am same age as Cindy Crawford and remember all of these models, including Stephanie. It wasn't just the modeling industry. Brooke Shields and I are also same age. I remember all us teen girls dressed in revealing clothes and were regularly cat called and hit on by much older men. It was kind of normal back then. My Mom would closely follow Brooke's career. I think she thought I could also be in the industry back then at the time. I didn't pursue it though as I lived in Midwest and went to one modeling call. They stated my face was exotic and they were looking for more plain. It was weird. We were pretty used to being sexualized very young. I think the main reason was that not many women were going into careers other than teaching, nursing and secretary jobs. It was still sort of expected that we would marry, have kids and be housewives. So we were expected to look good to find a husband and older men often were often financially more stable. It really changed about 5 years after that. You will find women Doctors and lawyers about 5 years younger than myself but very few my age. We had home economics in school that taught cooking, sewing and childcare. Real careers were more a focus a few years later.

[@tooma4886]

@@lisascorp~ I'm a couple of years older than Brooke Shields, and it was in no way normal for me or any of my friends to dress in revealing or provocative clothes. None of us would have been let out of the house (and no, my family wasn't ultra-religious). I was instilled in me at a young age to dress respectfully and to act like a lady.

[@lisascorp]

@@tooma4886 It's possible it was the area in NW Chicago Suburbs. I usually had classic tastes and wore dresses (still do fairly often) but I remember Summers w spaghetti strap little tops and the shorts and cut offs were really short. Seemed to be the style in our neighborhood (middle class) I guess I do remember seeing Bermuda shorts etc in stores as well, but they looked like "Mom" shorts. (at the time) I think our parents made no mention as they probably felt we were just skinny little flat chested girls at the time I didn't get a chest until I had children. Both boys, so attire was much easier with them than setting limits on choices for daughters.

[@dawnwheeler2649]

Brookes mother was ALWAYS AROUND !

[@edcpike]

I had no idea she was only 14 years old! Omg! 😳 What is wrong with these parents?

[@loralieisa]

They should have accompanied her to Europe.

[@ifitdontapplydontyoucry]

Nope. Im an American with Mexican ancestry. I have 2 sons and would never kiss them like that, or allow them to put hands close to my breast like that🙅‍♀️

[@danavixen6274]

Finally! Stephanie Seymour is DEFINITELY a 90s icon! Hopefully, she's healing from past trauma. A beauty with a dark past for sure. ❤

[@KarineAlourde]

One of the best to ever do it ❤

[@danavixen6274]

​@@KarineAlourdeIndeed! ❤

[@allysonjackson5610]

​@@KarineAlourde Yep, yep. ❤

[@patriciaguenzler9150]

Thank you

[@lisaaustin4561]

Men like Casablancas leave a lot of damaged women in their wake. Not addressed what did he do with the wife and child which he threw away without a second thought?

[@dayglodoggy]

Well the son he left behind to date seymor is julian casablancas, lead singer of the strokes, so he did ok for himself.

[@jewelzb1402]

There’s nothing normal about the Mother/Son photos…idk about their family dynamics or their relationship, but those photos are disturbing.

[@flyshitonly24]

Absolutely disturbing! SMH

[@chrisjone7555]

The photos don''t tell the whole story. We need the video. I believe his hand just brushed her chest and the pap caught it.

[@madeleineprice3556]

What’s crazy to me is that all of her sons turned out gay, look up her husband Peter Brant, looks like all his sperm were gay or something.

[@kazandraschellenger5505]

Welcome to the Luciferian Satanic multigenerational bloodline world. Where sick crap like this is considered normal.

[@courtneypalmer53]

They look like they are a couple in those photos. 😬

[@rCherithChronicles]

She always looked like a Kennedy to me. She had that Kennedy Camelot look.

[@Tenebarum]

I always thought she looked forty, even on the early '90's. She does have that patrician look that reads as more mature looking.

[@sandrasanders706]

She looks like Maria Shriver.

[@ahill4642]

good point

[@AbbyCavapoo24]

She looks like she has come from a higher class family with money She has this I'm rich and well bred appearance.

[@mymai5859]

Based on how the Kennedy men spread it out back in the day - not far fetched she could have Kennedy genes perhaps.

[@LaReginaPatrizia]

I have known about her for a long time. I can't believe that her parents allowed it. Even though, she married rich and had a successful career, I am sure that she has mental trauma from it .

[@Freeyourmind-y4g]

I’m sure her son’s accidental overdose death the night before he was entering rehab was more traumatic. She a strong women, and a lovely person.

[@annamariemiller3877]

I have 2 children. My oldest is a son and two years later I had a daughter. I don’t think that relationship between Seymour and her son is appropriate.

[@ln233]

Would never kiss my son like that, I think it’s weird

[@danavixen6274]

Very inappropriate indeed. I'm not saying Stephanie is a bad mom. I believe she loves her children and TRULY is in mourning over her son Harry. But, her privileged children including her late son Harry had been exposed to her own drug use and alleged infidelity between Stephanie and her husband Peter. It doesn't help that Stephanie was taken advantage of by John Casablancas. She more than likely is dealing with bouts of alcoholism and drug use due to her being sexualized at such a young age. Looks like generational trauma. 😢

[@MAGA-fe1dv]

@@danavixen6274I think she was a kind person who was exceptionally beautiful and things in pictures can be misconstrued

[@jackiepowell7513]

Angelina made out w her bro..shock value only

[@EvelynBaron]

@@danavixen6274 Even in mourning her son Harry she has his name written on her back doing a sexy pose what's with that?

[@danavixen6274]

@@EvelynBaron I've seen the picture. A bit strange, but I guess this is Stephanie's way of coping. Again, I empathize so I'm trying not to judge a CLEARLY traumatized woman who lost her child. This is why I commend Christy Turlington Burns's mom for protecting her as she navigated through the predatory modeling industry as a teen. Sadly, most models don't share the same sentiment. 😢

[@julieamsbury2977]

As a mom of 2 boys....those pics make me uncomfortable.

[@ritacatalinich]

And todays world is worse , what is in the music industry & how women behave in that industry , as Mothers of boys & Grandmothers when you have commercials ads of women in skimpy clothes . What a world we live in .

[@blu4085]

It's disturbing. I'm a mother of two adult sons and..no, just no..there is nothing in the slightest normal with those pics.

[@candacehandyside903]

She was one of the most beautiful models of all time. Her body was perfect

[@morgantylerv9406]

Beyond perfect‼️Stephanie is uber gorgeous & a great supermodel ‼️👸♥️

[@kumaranvij]

I just wish women didn't get huge fake-looking implants like hers...or any implants, really. We don't need them to be beautiful.

[@JJW77]

Karine, you are the perfect storyteller! Have you done one for Anna May Wong? Thanks!

[@KarineAlourde]

Thank you 🙏🏼 not yet, but definitely coming soon ❤

[@proudcynophile1901]

That would be awesome! Anna Mae Wong was sadly exploited by Hollywood racism.

[@irmarocha7809]

Instead of tearing her down, how about some prayer for her! 🙏✝️💖😢💔🌹

[@JuliaShalomJordan]

I miss the 90’s. It was a fashion era that was filled with the most aspirational women.🤍 Pedos are everywhere. I’m so tired of hearing how young kids get exploited.🤢🤮🥴

[@chrisjone7555]

Same here. Anywhere there are pretty women, men will find their way to put their perversions on us. The Me2 movement showed no women, in any industry are safe. However I do have issues with her parents allowing her to live with an adult man at her very young age.

[@teganflyman5352]

The era you miss was a pedo’s creation.

[@miinfl7143]

This reminds me of how Priscilla's parents sold their daughter to Elvis.

[@kumaranvij]

No they didn't. They were groomed, too, and made a big mistake. They never got money from Elvis!

[@manuellubian5709]

So, true. Like WHO in their right mind allows someone to take off w/ their underage daughter, and take her 1/2 way around the world by themselves. Couldn't imagine what Elvis said, did, offered or promised, her father Major Beaulieu (by all accounts a 'staunch military figure') to contemplate letting his daughter to get that far out of his sights and fly to America with a personal stranger. Remember Priscilla was only in H.S. at the time she left Germany.

[@wisdomknowledgelover6293]

She did not mind taking other women's husbands.

[@cathrinewhite7629]

I'm a mom of one adult son. We hug everytime we see each other. But those beach pics kinda give me the creeps..lol🤦‍♀️

[@Maya.6868]

I am Canadian, I'm disgusted when I look at the picture where Seymour and her son are kissing on the mouth and his hand touch her breast ! it is a very strange behaviour.

[@tchili1]

Yeah and with the one he is turned to side side is even worse! Very disgusting IMO.

[@AJLinthe5D]

​@@tchili1Maybe she was drunk and on pills. I think it's completely unacceptable though.

[@cricket8438]

Neither of my sons would act in that manner nor would I appreciate those actions. It does seem a bit inappropriate.

[@elliemariesal]

Never had a relationship like that with any of my children. Too creepy

[@JulieRushworth]

Agreed, never kissed my kids on the mouth! Seems wrong to me, a hug yes but the rest is creepy af

[@KerriisaDarling]

No! Absolutely NO kissing on the lips! I did attachment, parenting nurse both my daughters for extended years, but kissing on the lips unacceptable!!

[@bo8573]

Huh? Why not? Totally acceptable in Europe

[@Dzanarika1]

americans are weird af.

[@lisascorp]

​@@bo8573Yes. I've always given my Sons a quick peck on the mouth. I do same with my Mom and Dad. When I met my husband I notice that his mom does same to him (quick peck on mouth) and my mother in law also kisses me with a quick peck on mouth. We are both Italian, so maybe that's it. I've never seen anything wrong with it. It's not prolonged or open mouth for Christ sake. Just normal in our families. A cheek kiss seems so impersonal and almost phony like.

[@skyethebard]

What makes it unacceptable?

[@robertstates6538]

@@bo8573 it's acceptable here in Ohio 💋 ,👄👅 sweet young girls used to come over and ask for kissing lessons

[@rebels42wynn83]

Thank you for finally doing this latest supermodel video. Stephanie Seymour is still one of my all-time favorite supermodels. I hope that you will do one on Yasmin Lebon, wife of Simon Lebon, lead singer of Duran Duran. Yasmin's still modeling these days and will be 60 this year (OCTOBER 29TH!).

[@danavixen6274]

OMG! Yes! She's one of my FAVORITES! One of the most GORGEOUS women ever! I think it's cute that she and Simon share the same birthday. Just 6 years apart! Now they're grandparents! 🤗❤️

[@rebels42wynn83]

@@danavixen6274 Aww, 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰!!!!!

[@MissJocelyn]

Naw, that’s TOO intimate.

[@coryd2668]

It seems to me that a lot of the young minor celebrities of the Movie and Music industry were left to the older producers etc by their parents! And like Priscilla Presley they were tantalized with $$ signs! All of them. It’s so disappointing to see these underaged children thrown to the wolves by their own parents!

[@NadezdaBeka]

Yes, and the ones who were less traumatized were children of more powerful parents

[@ant-ekay7215]

Parents will give their agents, etc. Guardianship. How disgusting

[@beclairful]

No doubt, She was born BLESSED. I’m so sorry for your loss Stephanie, may your precious son rest in eternal peace. 💐❤️🙏🏻🙏🏻❤️💐

[@liz-iy6zm]

Casablanca! I went to parties where he and his young models were also in attendance when I lived and worked in Hollywood. ugh!

[@503ashkatchem4]

That’s so gross a 16 year old dating a 42 year old I was extremely childish at 16 I’m 33 and my husband is 49 and I get criticism once in awhile

[@proudcynophile1901]

Your age differences don't matter. You are both adults.

[@xanderpromeo]

33 and 49 are two adults in the same appropriate maturity. 16 and 42 is inappropriate.

[@chrisjone7555]

Naomi played matchmaker setting Stephanie up with Peter Byrant. I believe Naomi was also Stephanie's maid of honor.

[@amb7412]

Thank you for sharing this video. I learned so much about this amazing and disturbing talent. It goes to show you how powerful "Grooming" is on the psyche, it gave her a lack of boundaries-- she has none. She's gotten a pass on many things due to her beauty it's just that simple. Her parents and Casablanca should have all been put into jail. That was child trafficking for money and fame. Her mother sounds very self-serving. It's a disgusting truth that most child trafficking transactions occur between family members, family friends and acquaintances; it's not the stranger danger high numbers that society wants to you believe. I've attended Human Trafficking conference and the stories of grandparents, parents, aunts and uncles are horrific. She was damaged at an extremely young and impressionable age. Another sad tell of "messing with children," (that's what folks called it when I was growing up) will do to their normalcy and functionality in life. Their brains become rewired and it shows in all aspects of their interpersonal relationships, as with Stephanie's. I'm grateful that you took the time to create this video for us, because we need to peer behind the curtains of glamour, fame and fortune more often.

[@danavixen6274]

I believe everything you mentioned. Too sad! Too heartbreaking! 😢 💔

[@amb7412]

@@danavixen6274 So heartbreaking. Thanks for giving us this story. You are an excellent storyteller and researcher. The things you find out are amazing.

[@tooma4886]

Well said and I completely agree that there were definitely boundary issues in her childhood home, and she carried them right into her relationship with her son and possibly with all her children. I doubt she's even aware today that she was exploited by her parents and Casablancas. Maybe that's why she's an addict.

[@amb7412]

@@tooma4886 I so agree. Thank you for sharing your additional insights.

[@connie4937]

My son is almost 23 and I cab barely get a hug out of him. No way would ether of us feel comfortable with that kind of kissing and touching.

[@TheIddieMorris]

My almost 17 year old son won’t even kiss me on the cheek. He definitely doesn’t want me to kiss him!!

[@tmmartinesq.6216]

Grace Jones called out Casablancas for his racism and sexism.

[@lindaroth6273]

She should have kept yelling. The abuse just keeps going on....

[@LeeLee-fr4um]

Yes Karine!!!! I've been asking for this one. ❤❤. Loved Stephanie Seymour. All the 90's models were fire.

[@dorothyhodges2542]

The 80s 😊

[@777eight5]

The parents! So called guardians just waiting for the children to bring a paycheck.

[@JulieRushworth]

Yes, she lived out her mother's dreams

[@Ayjayem333]

I looove your vids. So much vintage tea! ☕️😝

[@jessicafitch9137]

She also was famous for dating the lead singer of Guns and Roses 🌹

[@4seasons546]

Axel Rose is mentioned in this video around 14:00

[@lindaroth6273]

I remember her running in one of their music videos

[@catrinahartz944]

Yep I remember that too He was abusive to her.

[@Des-Laine]

NOVEMBER RAIN!!!❤

[@jelenastojanovic5086]

Don't cry , she is adorable in that video ❤

[@johnayalachef]

Elle Magazine was huge for her career. Countless girls underage.

[@Mslegend73]

Excellent video on her Karine! She was and still is my favorite supermodel. She’s gorgeous

[@steventhorson4487]

In 1955 N.Y.C., my mom had a bad 👎 experience in the modeling industry. She quickly canceled her plans to continue. 😢

[@elizabethduffield8907]

Although I never met her, I went to high school with Stephanie. She was a freshman, and I was a senior. I remember she was homecoming princess her freshman year. A few months later there was an article done about her in the school paper, about the modeling contest. For some reason I had thought she had won. Anyway, it seems that after that article she had pretty much left school. I could be wrong. I remember her, and her mom coming through the drive thru at my work and ordering shakes, and I knew exactly who she was. Not a year or two later she was all over the covers of popular magazines. All of us in Poway, CA. were so proud. I have always followed her amazing career. So beautiful!!!!

[@RandomHouseDudeChats]

The 'Irreparable Damage Of Child Exploitation', in Particular of That of Young Teenage Girls and how it should be 'Strictly Prohibited & Closely Monitored', while Those Who Violate such 'Codes Of Conduct & Ethics' are to 'Be Punished With Severity', To 'The FULLEST Extent Of The LAW', just CANNOT BE OVERSTATED Enough! 🙏🌸 Thanks for sharing! 👍✌️

[@GhosstRyder]

As the mother of two straight sons I have NEVER kissed my boys like that. What goes on between those two is NOT normal.

[@robertcanada5106]

Why did you bring up your kid's sexuality?

[@jennferley8854]

​@@robertcanada5106 Because Stephanie's son used being gay as an argument

[@kaydub68]

She married her sugar, daddy Peter Brant

[@steveh9769]

I live in NYC, work in fashion and go the Hamptons a few times each summer. The reputation this family within the community is not good. She was often seen in public blitzed out of her mind. And her sons were entitled brats who people made fun of behind their backs.

[@LilyGazou]

Lived there here too still have a place in Montauk. Hamptons have always been weird on that level of money.

[@NadezdaBeka]

Please tell some more stories. I've heard that she was a single mom in the early 90s doing coke and I don't remember that being mentioned in the video

[@steveh9769]

@@NadezdaBeka Well to be fair most of us in fashion were doing a bump here and there in the 90's! lol

[@deborahjones9813]

Parents should have went to prison for handing their 14 to daughter over to a 42 yo predator. Doesn't matter when it was.

[@aliciaholland3308]

As a 12 year old when I first saw her doing that makeup line she used to do I thought she was gorgeous. Then as a teen I loved GNR and absolutely was in love with them and Dint Cry and November Rain she killed it and was stunning then I used to buy Victoria Secret clothes she was stunning in the magazines and then she disappeared married and old rich white man and seemed to raise to spoiled rotten entitled brats ( not her oldest so idk anything about him), but I did hear about her pill addiction which I can relate to I struggled for many years. It’s sad even before her sons death which I can thoroughly understand that pain via my cousins death at barely 19 and watching him pass in a car accident, she seemed to be very unhappy and unfulfilled money definitely cannot buy happiness and this Uber wealthy family seems to be the epitome of that. I’m sure having an affair with John Casablanca at 15 or 16 didn’t help. She needs Jesus and lots and lots of therapy. She was very beautiful, but definitely not as beautiful as Cindy Crawford and if you look back it seems she might have gotten a nose job at a very young age which I think Cindy Crawford had one too just a little tweakment at a young age either way both gorgeous one just aged much better and seemed to make way better choices.

[@missladybug73]

22:01 - I am a mother of a son. I would NEVER! That's so cringe. CPS should have been called.

[@Diana-yk7sp]

For the love of God, her son is openly gay. They were joking around. She is a great mother and adores her sons. Unfortunately one of them died about a year ago.

[@oleander20760]

Okay but someone needs to cover your iconic life someday the way you cover other icons ❤❤❤❤ love ur vids so much

[@KarineAlourde]

Aww thank you 😍😍❤❤

[@1daySomeday]

Exactly , she was a child and like any child even in teen years need parental guidance and not to be controlled but guided and often times that does mean to set solid boundaries with love and lots of patience. I now wonder what she would have turned out to be had her mother and father worked together to help bridge her over her teen years and then give her moral support in her early adult years.

[@tanyabell-abercrombie3042]

This is why I never understood why Cindy Crawford complained of Oprah making her feel objectified, yet she sat right there beside Casablancas on stage and did not have a problem with him.

[@kumaranvij]

How old was she?

[@sbrownie]

She just jumped on the bandwagon.

[@Aieshoo]

I doubt she felt objectified. It was just a story her pr team made up to keep her in the news.

[@s.d.9543]

Her Oprah complaint left me confused as well.

[@xanderpromeo]

Well oPrAh is a pimp for high profile celebs, you think she gonna call them out on stage if she’s uncomfortable? She’s gonna shut up and process it before she gets up the courage to go against that community.

[@Nunofyabizzzzz]

I wonder if she knows how wrong what she went through was

[@wolfireni]

She probably does for some extent. The era and the industry have definitely messed her up though

[@judementz-gibbons6730]

I would say not. She has been sexually objectified all her life. And would think it’s normal. But the mental impact as being seen this way rather than the substance of who she was as a person would have been incredibly painful. Leaving a gapping hole no amount of money or glamour could fill. Only substances; and would have been the direct cause for her addictions. She lost herself and sold out. Her parents have much to answer to. They pimped her out.

[@Mani-dg7cn]

every star is a victim in the end and money is a killer

[@pagemastrogiovanni9195]

Actually most normal regular folk even at the time were disgusted with all nudity and exposure of the Brooke Shields and the Stephanie Seymour model types, but in "the in crowd" of the fashion world anything went. Stephanie Seymour was behaving incestuous with her son. I don’t know if that's what was going on but quite possibly. The reason I say this because both Janice Dickerson and Karen Mulder (I believe) accused their fathers of sexually assaulting them, and in Janice's case she stated her sister (also a model) bore the brunt of the abuse. Generally young damaged, and sexually abused folks tend to behave in ways most people don’t because of their grooming. I think the whole situation with Casablancas could have warped Stephanie.

[@Thomassina1]

Agree, they are sxualized at v young age, lost inhibitions, boundaries, and innocence. She did not look uptight or shy in the provocative pics though was well under 18 yrs. It's a fast lifestyle.

[@Aieshoo]

Good analysis.

[@tooma4886]

I agree, her behavior is incestuous. It may have factored into her sons decision to k*ll himself.

[@mimivance5119]

I remember seeing her in my V.S. catalog and even had some of the nightgowns she was wearing. She was stunning.

[@SirKevinH]

Pictures? Of you modeling the nightgowns? Please? LOL. Just joking!

[@mimivance5119]

@SirKevinH That was over 30 years ago.

[@christinegatto7426]

The parents were seduced by all the money Stephanie made. They couldn't see how inappropriate that lifestyle is. You sold your child to the highest bidder.

[@caramelspice7244]

When I think of Seymour, I just picture the glam of 90s supermodeldom, Victoria's Secret, Rockstar gf, and November Rain.🤩❤

[@ittonohara5327]

Maruschka Detmers I once saw an interview with Maruschka Detmers in her forties. The interviewer did not know her personally, but was fascinated by the picture that was presented to him so far by the media. An exciting woman, sexually free. But it turned out to be completely different. Maruschka Detmers said, she was not that woman. Old men did manipulate her into things, she can not identify with. It took her many years of psychotherapie to get over it. And Maruschka was in her early twenties already when shown nude and free to a large audience by old men. Guess, what this does to a teenager. I am almost certain, Stephanie Seymour is still not aware, what happened to her. That might be the reason she ended up as a drunk. Eva Ionseco was a toddlerwoman. She was sexy already in diapers. She might have been the youngest childwoman in playboy. She had to become sixty to be able to speak out against it. She made an interesting movie about it.

[@teresatexas]

This lady was absolutely gorgeous. Ive heard horror stories about their line of work.soo sad.

[@TheHare-rv3hj]

Seymour needs a therapist.

[@Mallratthrift]

No Cassablanca does! He needs to go to jail!

[@dsch3241]

@@Mallratthriftshe still needs a therapist

[@lovelymix8056]

@@Mallratthrift😂😂😂lol gurl he died years ago. What he need therapy for in the after life.

[@Tremaineswife]

Wow I never heard of her before this was a good video

[@ratelhoneybadger]

Me too!

[@MsAdventure531]

I wasn’t familiar with Seymour either.

[@6bc246]

Thank you! Your videos are so enjoyable-I really appreciate your extensive research and thoughtful insights - I would love to see you do a bio on the fabulous Lady Miss Kier of Deeelight - her style, talent and impact on music and fashion were phenomenal

[@SKing-fq9hu]

I am a mum and since my son's birth, I have always kissed and hugged him. He fits perfectly into my arms and emotionally hugging him makes a bad day go away. People who abuse their kids don't do it openly on a beach; they do it behind closed doors. To me these 2 look like a loving mum and son who understand each other's preciousness to one another. There is nothing wrong with that. My parents loved me but were not the hugging or kissing kind and that's a shame because the energy and happiness you get from it and give your kid is undeniable.

[@bethcaswell9670]

Verrry well done..She was everywhere in My time..completly missed that she had all those children..looking forward to hearing all your other bios❤❤

[@lysirishfleur3030]

I only know of her because of Axl Rose

[@JulieRushworth]

I've never heard of her

[@musiccreation1198]

Stephanie Seymour and Christy Turlington ... all time favs.

[@sarahs5340]

🔥Wow! Great video. She was seen as an out of control, bratty supermodel back in the day; pretty but bad tempered. I had no idea she had been exploited by her manager and her family. If she wanted to model, she should have been able to do so while protected. Women really suffer. It is tragic. Even in the 80s and 90s their relationship would have been seen as illegal and exploitative, but the men covered for each other more back then, so it was hidden. It was like the good old boy’s circuit and women were torn up in all of it. If her parents had fought for her though, she would have been safe, but probably lost her career. Men in all industries were looking for “agreeable” and easy access to work or whatever. I wish I could say “this is how it USED to be”, but unfortunately due to recent events and news that continues to surface, it seems the entertainment industry is still sick. We need to do better by our children!

[@missygee531]

I lost my adult daughter several years ago. It really changes you. You dont even want to be the to be the same..... :(

[@carrington2949]

I would love to know what happened to Karen Moulder and Noémie Lenoir. They were both stunning models who had breakdowns. I imagine they both suffered in the industry even though they had very successful careers. One of my mom’s fave from the 90s was French supermodel Chrystèle Saint-Louis Augustin soon. She rocked a fro in the 90s. She was very fair skinned with blue eyes, however she was of Caribbean , black ancestry. She is so underrated.

[@NancyWas]

I enjoyed this. I am always intrigued by models and fashion. You should do a story on Tatjana Patitz. She was one of the top models along side Kim Crawford, etc. Her life ended tragically in I believe 2021 of metastatic breast cancer. She was only 56 I believe. 😢

[@tabathaogost4982]

I don't think there's anything super weird about those photos. It's just that she's in a bikini, if she was wearing a shirt it wouldnt really look like he's touching her boob, he was more hugging her in. And the kiss is not a big deal either, I think it's angle.

[@skyethebard]

I agree. It's interesting how many people seem eager to make their affection into something abusive.

[@tooma4886]

It wouldn't look like he was touching her boob, but he would still be touching her boob. Her bikini is insignificant.

[@Elise10000]

Hi, really enjoying this channel. I can’t believe she was 14 and her parents were cool with her being in that relationship. How could her dad/mom be hanging out with this older boyfriend and it not all be incredibly weird. As a non sequitur your Baby Peggy comments are turned off and I wanted to say I MET Baby Peggy within past 10 years at a small historic theater in northern CA where she gave a talk. How great you profiled her. I learned a lot from your video and how CAN parents blow through that kind of money then, doesn’t seem possible.

[@shilohbell1573]

Great video! I love that you add their beauty tips in!

[@secretshaman189]

In regards to the uncomfortable intimacy between her and her son...those things happen when a father is not present.

[@Thomassina1]

same for Liz Hurley & son. creepy.

[@gracielamrad]

Absolutely right!

[@tooma4886]

I suspect there were boundary issues/violations in her childhood home, and she brought them into her relationships with her children.

[@NexxisStudio]

Shocking Seymour! Thanks for showing. Can you do also documentaries on Deborah Kerr, Norma Kamali, Karen Mulder, Vanessa Williams, and Wendy Williams? Thanks so much for your videos.

[@MartyHill-or6tp]

Sounds like a dysfunctional family or else why the children so messed up? Not all that glitter is gold. You may look good on the outside but what is going on inside? What does it profit a man to gain the whole world when you lose your soul.

[@Britta_no_filter]

I can’t wait for the John Casablancas video! Can you also do one on Alessandra Ambrosio?

[@chrisjone7555]

The photos with Stephanie and son don't tell the whole story. You need the video to judge if this was inappropriate. His hand had most likely brushed against Stephanie's chest. The photog just causht it at the right moment. Also Stephanie's husband Peter lost another son years before. It sucks to outlive two of your children.

[@Diana-yk7sp]

Exactly. Any photo can be made to look like something it's not if you don't know the entire story or see all of the footage. She adores her kids.

[@johnayalachef]

I’m not condoning anything but look up Monique Pillard. She was the model manager that enabled this behaviour with many girls to many men. Stephanie is an exceptional beauty but her mother was right there for everything. That’s why her mother’s marriage went south.

[@lovelymix8056]

@@asturiasceltic3183😂😂😂lol not ms. Ford calling ICE on Casablanca! 🤣🤣🤣

[@sophiebean1624]

I have 2 sons adults now, no this is not normal

[@lindaclark1406]

I have five sons and we never kiss on the lips. We hug, kiss on the cheek and are close in a more respectful manner.